Chicago actually registers gun offenders....then doesn't keep them in jail when they are caught with illegal guns. But gun registration will work?

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The 2 step goal of anti-gun extremists is to

1) Get all guns regisetered

2) Use that registry to collect guns once they get the political power to ban them.

Is the goal to stop criminals.....? No.

How do we know this?

Chicago has been under complete democrat party control since 1931......the democrat party is the party of gun control. In Chicago, they created a gun offender registration list. If you are a criminal using an illegal gun, you get put on that list so that if you are arrested again with an illegal gun......they are supposed to punish you more severely......

The City Hall is controlled by democrats.......they are democrat party hacks.........they control cook county from top to bottom...

What do they actually do? They let you go...over and over and over again....even though it is these repeat offenders who are doing 95% of all gun crime in the city of Chicago...

Every year, Chicago police officers arrest hundreds of people for violating the city’s gun-offender registration ordinance, a law that requires anyone convicted of gun-related violence or illegal gun possession to go to police headquarters yearly and register their home addresses.

But it’s rare that anyone is punished for failing to comply with the law, modeled on similar measures that were credited with helping reduce crime elsewhere.

That’s according to a Chicago Sun-Times analysis that found most of those cases get dismissed in court — and that’s typically done at the request of lawyers representing City Hall.

Take Devaughn Levi. He was arrested three times in early 2020 for failing to register as a gun offender. But each of those misdemeanor cases was dropped at city lawyers’ request, court records show. Levi is now in jail, charged with felony gun-possession.

To get an idea of how the law is enforced, the Sun-Times examined 33 gun-offender registry arrests that were made in January 2020. In one of those cases, a man got fined $500 — violations carry a possible penalty of a $300-to-$500 fine and six months in jail. All of the other cases were dropped at the request of attorneys for the city.


“The gun-offender registry is BS. What a colossal waste of resources,” says Ald. Matt O’Shea (19th), whose Southwest Side ward is the home of many Chicago police officers. “Who are we kidding? Gun offenders at every level aren’t getting prosecuted. In my opinion, it’s a waste of time. It creates a lot of useless paperwork.”


But......but.........they actually have a list of actual gun criminals........a list of criminals who use illegal guns....and they do nothing to these criminals after repeat arrests.

So...tell us again how registering guns is going to reduce gun crime.....

It isn't about reducing gun crime......it is reducing the ability of normal people to own guns....since it is law abiding people who will actually obey a gun ban and confiscation law.....

Chicago proves this point.
 
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Chicago has been under complete democrat party control since 1931......the democrat party is the party of gun control. In Chicago, they created a gun offender registration list. If you are a criminal using an illegal gun, you get put on that list so that if you are arrested again with an illegal gun......they are supposed to punish you more severely......

You leave out the part where the National Rampage Association got Chicago's sensible gun laws thrown out in court and the crime rate spiked after the Gun Industry flooded the city with guns.
 
Chicago has been under complete democrat party control since 1931......the democrat party is the party of gun control. In Chicago, they created a gun offender registration list. If you are a criminal using an illegal gun, you get put on that list so that if you are arrested again with an illegal gun......they are supposed to punish you more severely......

You leave out the part where the National Rampage Association got Chicago's sensible gun laws thrown out in court and the crime rate spiked after the Gun Industry flooded the city with guns.


Moron......read the article...this has nothing to do with Concealed Carry......where law abiding people own and carry guns for self defense...

These are actual criminals who have been convicted of actual gun crimes...you fucking doofus.......and the democrat party is doing nothing about them.

Gun crime spiked because the democrat party targeted police, and started stupid crap like this where they keep releasing violent gun criminals....the democrat party in Chicago is in bed with the gangs.....I have shown you the article that shows how in bed they are with the street gangs......

You don't know what you are talking about.
 
I know a few people who moved out of Chicago and told me how awful it was. It is definitely not a place I would want to live in.
 
Gun crime spiked because the democrat party targeted police, and started stupid crap like this where they keep releasing violent gun criminals....the democrat party in Chicago is in bed with the gangs.....I have shown you the article that shows how in bed they are with the street gangs......

No, guy, gun crime spiked because crooks could get guns now.

Right after the NRA won it's fights with Chicago and Illinois over the gun regulations, gun sales in Chicago spiked, and a lot more guns are available.

1.8 Million guns were stolen between 2011 and 2017 in the US. That's why we have a flood of illegal guns.
 
Gun crime spiked because the democrat party targeted police, and started stupid crap like this where they keep releasing violent gun criminals....the democrat party in Chicago is in bed with the gangs.....I have shown you the article that shows how in bed they are with the street gangs......

No, guy, gun crime spiked because crooks could get guns now.

Right after the NRA won it's fights with Chicago and Illinois over the gun regulations, gun sales in Chicago spiked, and a lot more guns are available.

1.8 Million guns were stolen between 2011 and 2017 in the US. That's why we have a flood of illegal guns.


Moron.....criminals were able to get guns long before Concealed carry was passed in the city.......the policies of the democrat party, the party in complete control of Chicago since 1931 drives the gun crime rates in Chicago.....you idiot.

The democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians keep releasing violent gun criminals...over and over again. There is no consequence for using an illegal gun in a gun crime ......that is why we have gun crime rates as high as we do in democrat party controlled cities.......

You are an idiot....you don't know what you are talking about......

You say access to guns increased gun crime....27 years of actual experience shows you are wrong...completely and utterly wrong......

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

If what you say is true...that more guns mean more gun crime.....then the gun murder rate and gun crime rate would have gone up, not down, you dumb ass.....and 27 years show you are wrong...

The recent spike in gun crime in democrat party controlled cities is a direct result of democrat party attacks on our police forces....and their criminal justice policies of releasing violent criminals over and over again.

You have no idea what you are talking about.
 
The plan is to disarm honest citizens not criminals.

Armed honest citizens could be a real pain in the ass if your plan is change this nation from capitalism to socialism as practiced in Cuba or Venezuela or communism as in China or Russia.

Such change would require “deprogramming” people, especially white males. They might not co-operate when you try to send them to labor camps in Alaska.
 
The plan is to disarm honest citizens not criminals.

Armed honest citizens could be a real pain in the ass if your plan is change this nation from capitalism to socialism as practiced in Cuba or Venezuela or communism as in China or Russia.

Such change would require “deprogramming” people, especially white males. They might not co-operate when you try to send them to labor camps in Alaska.
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Gun crime spiked because the democrat party targeted police, and started stupid crap like this where they keep releasing violent gun criminals....the democrat party in Chicago is in bed with the gangs.....I have shown you the article that shows how in bed they are with the street gangs......

No, guy, gun crime spiked because crooks could get guns now.

Right after the NRA won it's fights with Chicago and Illinois over the gun regulations, gun sales in Chicago spiked, and a lot more guns are available.

1.8 Million guns were stolen between 2011 and 2017 in the US. That's why we have a flood of illegal guns.

What about the fast and furious? I have no doubt they do the same kind of things in Chicago.

 
The plan is to disarm honest citizens not criminals.

Armed honest citizens could be a real pain in the ass if your plan is change this nation from capitalism to socialism as practiced in Cuba or Venezuela or communism as in China or Russia.

Such change would require “deprogramming” people, especially white males. They might not co-operate when you try to send them to labor camps in Alaska.

Exactly! Great points! We would be in big trouble if only the criminals and government have the guns. Not to mention those two are interconnected.
 
The 2 step goal of anti-gun extremists is to

1) Get all guns regisetered

2) Use that registry to collect guns once they get the political power to ban them.

Is the goal to stop criminals.....? No.

How do we know this?

Chicago has been under complete democrat party control since 1931......the democrat party is the party of gun control. In Chicago, they created a gun offender registration list. If you are a criminal using an illegal gun, you get put on that list so that if you are arrested again with an illegal gun......they are supposed to punish you more severely......

The City Hall is controlled by democrats.......they are democrat party hacks.........they control cook county from top to bottom...

What do they actually do? They let you go...over and over and over again....even though it is these repeat offenders who are doing 95% of all gun crime in the city of Chicago...

Every year, Chicago police officers arrest hundreds of people for violating the city’s gun-offender registration ordinance, a law that requires anyone convicted of gun-related violence or illegal gun possession to go to police headquarters yearly and register their home addresses.

But it’s rare that anyone is punished for failing to comply with the law, modeled on similar measures that were credited with helping reduce crime elsewhere.

That’s according to a Chicago Sun-Times analysis that found most of those cases get dismissed in court — and that’s typically done at the request of lawyers representing City Hall.

Take Devaughn Levi. He was arrested three times in early 2020 for failing to register as a gun offender. But each of those misdemeanor cases was dropped at city lawyers’ request, court records show. Levi is now in jail, charged with felony gun-possession.

To get an idea of how the law is enforced, the Sun-Times examined 33 gun-offender registry arrests that were made in January 2020. In one of those cases, a man got fined $500 — violations carry a possible penalty of a $300-to-$500 fine and six months in jail. All of the other cases were dropped at the request of attorneys for the city.


“The gun-offender registry is BS. What a colossal waste of resources,” says Ald. Matt O’Shea (19th), whose Southwest Side ward is the home of many Chicago police officers. “Who are we kidding? Gun offenders at every level aren’t getting prosecuted. In my opinion, it’s a waste of time. It creates a lot of useless paperwork.”


But......but.........they actually have a list of actual gun criminals........a list of criminals who use illegal guns....and they do nothing to these criminals after repeat arrests.

So...tell us again how registering guns is going to reduce gun crime.....

It isn't about reducing gun crime......it is reducing the ability of normal people to own guns....since it is law abiding people who will actually obey a gun ban and confiscation law.....

Chicago proves this point.

Is Biden preparing to ban imported ammo?
Apologies if it's a dupe,

Reported here at the around the 1:01 mark on this podcast. Gun control groups have been meeting at the White House and the Biden admin are going to try to block the importation of ammo into the United States. Bill O'reilly was a guest on the program and is claiming to have knowledge of this. No idea how accurate, just passing the word.

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The meeting discussed here as well
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1) Get all guns regisetered

2) Use that registry to collect guns once they get the political power to ban them.
That's exactly what they did to me. I was a lawful registered gun owner, until they went to court and "served" me with a Civil Commitment to revoke my rights and have me adjudicated as a mental defective and prohibited on pain of ten years in prison from possessing a firearm as per Title 18 U.S. Code § 922 ¶ (d)(4), (g)(4), (h), under the Gun Control Act of 1968, the Brady Bill, and NICS.

This was in Washington State. The cops who do this are Executioners, the enforcers of the Sinaloa drug cártel.
The mental hospital where they had me committed has lost its federal accreditation and funding as a legitimate medical institution, and as a response state lawmakers have approved a new torture chamber.
>>> The goal of the program, which borrows from violence assessment and treatment guidelines developed in California, is to reduce by half the number of violent incidents committed by these assaultive patients. But progress will also be gauged by a reduction in the severity of their outbursts.<<<
 
Right after the NRA won it's fights with Chicago and Illinois over the gun regulations, gun sales in Chicago spiked, and a lot more guns are available.
Of which the vast majority went to law-abiding citizens for self defense

liberals like you continue to misunderstand that its criminals holding the gun that are the problem not honest gun owners
 
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Right after the NRA won it's fights with Chicago and Illinois over the gun regulations, gun sales in Chicago spiked, and a lot more guns are available.
Of which the vast majority went to law-abiding citizens for self defense

liberals like you continue to misunderstand that its criminals holding the gun that are the problem not honest gun owners


He isn't a liberal, he is a straight up fascist.
 
Of which the vast majority went to law-abiding citizens for self defense
Sure. The vast majority of citizens are not guilty of such serious crimes as murder and armed robbery.
liberals like you continue to misunderstand that its criminals holding the gun that are the problem not honest gun owners
I was a legal registered gun owner until they just went to court without even a conviction and decided I was a criminally insane mental defective who shouldn't be allowed to own a weapon anymore, or ever get a job that required a background check.
 
The 2 step goal of anti-gun extremists is to

1) Get all guns regisetered

2) Use that registry to collect guns once they get the political power to ban them.

Is the goal to stop criminals.....? No.

How do we know this?

Chicago has been under complete democrat party control since 1931......the democrat party is the party of gun control. In Chicago, they created a gun offender registration list. If you are a criminal using an illegal gun, you get put on that list so that if you are arrested again with an illegal gun......they are supposed to punish you more severely......

The City Hall is controlled by democrats.......they are democrat party hacks.........they control cook county from top to bottom...

What do they actually do? They let you go...over and over and over again....even though it is these repeat offenders who are doing 95% of all gun crime in the city of Chicago...

Every year, Chicago police officers arrest hundreds of people for violating the city’s gun-offender registration ordinance, a law that requires anyone convicted of gun-related violence or illegal gun possession to go to police headquarters yearly and register their home addresses.

But it’s rare that anyone is punished for failing to comply with the law, modeled on similar measures that were credited with helping reduce crime elsewhere.

That’s according to a Chicago Sun-Times analysis that found most of those cases get dismissed in court — and that’s typically done at the request of lawyers representing City Hall.

Take Devaughn Levi. He was arrested three times in early 2020 for failing to register as a gun offender. But each of those misdemeanor cases was dropped at city lawyers’ request, court records show. Levi is now in jail, charged with felony gun-possession.

To get an idea of how the law is enforced, the Sun-Times examined 33 gun-offender registry arrests that were made in January 2020. In one of those cases, a man got fined $500 — violations carry a possible penalty of a $300-to-$500 fine and six months in jail. All of the other cases were dropped at the request of attorneys for the city.


“The gun-offender registry is BS. What a colossal waste of resources,” says Ald. Matt O’Shea (19th), whose Southwest Side ward is the home of many Chicago police officers. “Who are we kidding? Gun offenders at every level aren’t getting prosecuted. In my opinion, it’s a waste of time. It creates a lot of useless paperwork.”


But......but.........they actually have a list of actual gun criminals........a list of criminals who use illegal guns....and they do nothing to these criminals after repeat arrests.

So...tell us again how registering guns is going to reduce gun crime.....

It isn't about reducing gun crime......it is reducing the ability of normal people to own guns....since it is law abiding people who will actually obey a gun ban and confiscation law.....

Chicago proves this point.
iIf you are arrested for a gun crime for threaten an innocent victim with a gun and robbing them of everything worth a shit the next time we are going to do something that will keep you jailed till you are ORed the next morning. The third time you just might spending 2 whole days behind bars with 6 months probation cause we ain't messing with you UNLESS biden or harris bail you out.
 
iIf you are arrested for a gun crime for threaten an innocent victim with a gun and robbing them of everything worth a shit the next time we are going to do something that will keep you jailed till you are ORed the next morning. The third time you just might spending 2 whole days behind bars with 6 months probation cause we ain't messing with you UNLESS biden or harris bail you out.
That's what happens. You become an instant felon in a court of law as soon as you have a gun legally registered in your name.
 
Gun crime spiked because the democrat party targeted police, and started stupid crap like this where they keep releasing violent gun criminals....the democrat party in Chicago is in bed with the gangs.....I have shown you the article that shows how in bed they are with the street gangs......

No, guy, gun crime spiked because crooks could get guns now.

Right after the NRA won it's fights with Chicago and Illinois over the gun regulations, gun sales in Chicago spiked, and a lot more guns are available.

1.8 Million guns were stolen between 2011 and 2017 in the US. That's why we have a flood of illegal guns.
The crooks ALWAYS HAD GUNS. It was the law-abiding people who couldn't get guns due to a catch 22 set of gun laws.
 
Gun crime spiked because the democrat party targeted police, and started stupid crap like this where they keep releasing violent gun criminals....the democrat party in Chicago is in bed with the gangs.....I have shown you the article that shows how in bed they are with the street gangs......

No, guy, gun crime spiked because crooks could get guns now.

Right after the NRA won it's fights with Chicago and Illinois over the gun regulations, gun sales in Chicago spiked, and a lot more guns are available.

1.8 Million guns were stolen between 2011 and 2017 in the US. That's why we have a flood of illegal guns.
The crooks ALWAYS HAD GUNS. It was the law-abiding people who couldn't get guns due to a catch 22 set of gun laws.

If you can smuggle tons of drugs into our nation there is no way you can stop criminals from getting firearms. If there is a market the smugglers will bring in Russian fully automatic AK-47s or whatever meets the demand.
 
If you can smuggle tons of drugs into our nation there is no way you can stop criminals from getting firearms. If there is a market the smugglers will bring in Russian fully automatic AK-47s or whatever meets the demand.
Cops aren't concerned with criminals getting access to firearms. They will gladly plant a fully functional loaded firearm on a suspect's property, with the paperwork already in hand to file an illegal firearm possession charge with a 10-year prison sentence in addition to whatever other charges they are laying in court.
 

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