‘Cheap manufacturing be damned’: Sentiment builds for moving U.S. companies out of China

[dcbl]

and cheap labor from anywhere too

showing that, once again, Trump was correct

we need to make our own stuff and never be reliant on ANY other country for the things we need

that includes oil from the ME as well

LINK

American companies that produce essential goods in China should plan to shift their operations back to the United States or other Western countries, according to a senior Republican lawmaker.

“We're staring into a significant, significant crisis of supply chain,” Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner told the Washington Examiner. “Cheap labor or cheap manufacturing be damned if you are reliant on them for your life and livelihood.”

Gardner’s warning was spurred by the shortage of hospital masks in the United States, a dearth driven by Beijing’s refusal to allow American companies that make the products in China to ship them out of the country amid the coronavirus pandemic. And he’s not alone in that sentiment, raising the possibility that anger over China’s self-interested response to the coronavirus outbreak could produce one of the most dramatic alterations of global economics in decades.

“Because of the coronavirus problem, people are recognizing that any supply chain that has single points of failure is incredibly vulnerable,” the Heritage Foundation’s Dean Cheng, a senior research fellow in the organization’s Asian Studies Center, told the Washington Examiner. “China is going to be very concerned about decoupling, offshoring, [or any] redirection of investments out of China.”

 

[Brain357]

Good luck with that.

 

[Correll]

Good luck with that.

Agreed. That "anger" over the Chinese wanting to use Chinese production to save chines lives?

That will fade. The money to be mad by cheap labor will be just a glittering, in a year or two, as it was, ten or twenty or thirty years ago when we decided to start fucking over the American worked in favor of the chinese worker.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

 

[Brain357]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

 

[Rambunctious]

Some big changes are ahead for the red menace...any company or corporation such as the NBA and Apple and Nike will lose if they remain in China....this virus awakened the sleepers in America and they are all paying attention....I'm hearing Trump hating libs call for a wall on both borders.....

 

[Rambunctious]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

China is not a country...they are a gulag of slave labor....just like you would want to see here....

 

[Correll]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

To be fair, there has never been an isolated country on a scale of the US.

AND, as we seen to be destined to be fucked by any trading partner, isolation could be a competitive policy.


THe choice seems to be either be the world's bitch, or take our ball and go home.

 

[Dana7360]

and cheap labor from anywhere too

showing that, once again, Trump was correct

we need to make our own stuff and never be reliant on ANY other country for the things we need

that includes oild from the ME as well

LINK

American companies that produce essential goods in China should plan to shift their operations back to the United States or other Western countries, according to a senior Republican lawmaker.

“We're staring into a significant, significant crisis of supply chain,” Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner told the Washington Examiner. “Cheap labor or cheap manufacturing be damned if you are reliant on them for your life and livelihood.”

Gardner’s warning was spurred by the shortage of hospital masks in the United States, a dearth driven by Beijing’s refusal to allow American companies that make the products in China to ship them out of the country amid the coronavirus pandemic. And he’s not alone in that sentiment, raising the possibility that anger over China’s self-interested response to the coronavirus outbreak could produce one of the most dramatic alterations of global economics in decades.

“Because of the coronavirus problem, people are recognizing that any supply chain that has single points of failure is incredibly vulnerable,” the Heritage Foundation’s Dean Cheng, a senior research fellow in the organization’s Asian Studies Center, told the Washington Examiner. “China is going to be very concerned about decoupling, offshoring, [or any] redirection of investments out of China.”

Big business isn't going to move their manufacturing back here on their own.

Tax cuts didn't do it. Removing regulation didn't do it. Not raising the minimum wage didn't do it. Giving them tax breaks on revenues generated outside the US didn't do it.

The only thing that will get big business to return to America is to force them by making it too expensive to manufacture overseas.

The only way to do that is with taxes. Impose massive taxes on those who move to make it too expensive to be overseas.

Only then will we see manufacturing return to America.

If you were alive before Reagan, that's what our government did. Imposed high taxes on high wage and salaries, high taxes on unearned income and high taxes on big business. The manufacturing stayed in America. Reagan slashed taxes on business. That's when our jobs started leaving. In those years it was to Japan.

So return to high taxes on high wages, unearned income, big business and impose high taxes on those who don't manufacture here, only then you will see manufacturing return.

 

[Brain357]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

To be fair, there has never been an isolated country on a scale of the US.

AND, as we seen to be destined to be fucked by any trading partner, isolation could be a competitive policy.


THe choice seems to be either be the world's bitch, or take our ball and go home.

How do you mean? The USSR failed miserably. Pretty big country.

 

[Brain357]

Trump tariffs have led to a slow down in manufacturing and huge steel layoffs. You want failure on a larger scale than that?

 

[westwall]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

Only if they lack the resources to provide for themselves. The US is one of the very few countries that is or can be , self sufficient.

 

[westwall]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

To be fair, there has never been an isolated country on a scale of the US.

AND, as we seen to be destined to be fucked by any trading partner, isolation could be a competitive policy.


THe choice seems to be either be the world's bitch, or take our ball and go home.

How do you mean? The USSR failed miserably. Pretty big country.

Only because of a completely incompetent, socialist government.

 

[Brain357]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

Only if they lack the resources to provide for themselves. The US is one of the very few countries that is or can be , self sufficient.

No economist would agree with you.

 

[Brain357]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

To be fair, there has never been an isolated country on a scale of the US.

AND, as we seen to be destined to be fucked by any trading partner, isolation could be a competitive policy.


THe choice seems to be either be the world's bitch, or take our ball and go home.

How do you mean? The USSR failed miserably. Pretty big country.

Only because of a completely incompetent, socialist government.

Isolation isn’t good for capitalism. Imagine the lack of competition. It’s bad enough already.

 

[Sunsettommy]

In my job, I had to deal with INFERIOR Chinese irrigation products, had to force the management to drop their shit for FAR BETTER American made stuff, where they would last much longer.

Chinese steel irrigation parts were so poor that I had to dig them up, replace them with slightly more expensive but far better American made stuff. The same with the black Marlecks, the Chinese version were thin walled and weak, while the slightly more expensive but far better American made were much longer lasting in the ground, as they were thicker and better threads too.

The same with Sprinklers, had to get they to stop buying the Chinese shit, in time the management eventually took my advice to stock the superior American made, because they noticed that I was doing an end run on them, by going to the stores using the City's credit card ( was given one as a buyer for my work) to get what I WANTED, bypassing the cheap Chinese stuff they were buying.

I buy Rainbird, Toro sprinklers, the best stuff, both American made and the best for irrigation use. Hunters not bad, but too many product failures caused me to drop them in the last few years I was working.

 

[Vastator]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Not quite. Boomers fucked millennials out the housing market to where many find home ownership unattainable when coupled with the higher costs of everything else. And before you even bother to ask... Just type in “how boomers ruined the housing market for millennials” You’ll have endless sources to choose from.

 

[westwall]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

Only if they lack the resources to provide for themselves. The US is one of the very few countries that is or can be , self sufficient.

No economist would agree with you.

The history books are filled with failed economic theory. And the fools who wrote them.

 

[Brain357]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

Only if they lack the resources to provide for themselves. The US is one of the very few countries that is or can be , self sufficient.

No economist would agree with you.

The history books are filled with failed economic theory. And the fools who wrote them.

How often you guys need to be wrong? Trump tariffs have hurt. Tax cuts didn’t pay for themselves. Now we need to isolate. The stupid ideas are many with you guys.

 

[Correll]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

To be fair, there has never been an isolated country on a scale of the US.

AND, as we seen to be destined to be fucked by any trading partner, isolation could be a competitive policy.


THe choice seems to be either be the world's bitch, or take our ball and go home.

How do you mean? The USSR failed miserably. Pretty big country.

Failed because they tried to have a big empire AND we fought them.

Not because they were isolated.