Chauvin pardon

[Lesh]

Chauvin violated police rules for subduing a suspect, but he did not kill Floyd, Drugs killed Floyd.

His “violation of those rules” resulted in the death of Floyd

He’s a murderer

 

[Marener]

True, show he intentionally planned to 'murder' Floyd.

Accident at best in a court of law.

Why does it have to be “planned” to be murder?

 

[Lesh]

Why does it have to be “planned” to be murder?

Planned results in a charge and verdict of murder in the first degree

What was Chauvin convicted of?

 

[Marener]

Planned results on a charge and verdict of murder in the first degree

What was Chauvin convicted of?

Not first degree murder. It was second degree unintentional murder.

Maybe Delldude is busy figuring out what that means.

 

[Lisa558]

Elon Musk floats possible pardon of ex-cop Derek Chauvin for being 'unjustly convicted' in George Floyd case | Daily Mail Online


By STEPHENM. LEPORE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
Elon Musk weighed on a movement to pardon former police officer Derek Chauvin, saying the controversial action was 'something to think about.'
Chauvin, the disgraced Minneapolis cop convicted of murdering George Floyd back in 2020, is currently serving concurrent state and federal sentences in a federal prison in Arizona.
Ben Shapiro's The Daily Wire has begun an effort to pardon Chauvin with an open letter to Donald Trump, calling his conviction 'the defining achievement of the Woke movement in American politics.'


Comment:
The medical examiner testified that Chauvin did not harm Floyd.
He also testified that Floyd had arterial sclerosis, covid-19 and a lethal amount of fentanyl in his blood.
It was a politically motivated conviction.
It was a bogus conviction and an injustice.

 

[Delldude]

Why does it have to be “planned” to be murder?

Ask the jury.

His “violation of those rules” resulted in the death of Floyd

So now you acknowledge it was policy.

Maybe @Delldude is busy figuring out what that means.

The third-degree murder charge alleged Chauvin caused Floyd’s death by “perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life.”

Not first degree murder. It was second degree unintentional murder.

Three murder charges or did you forget that?

 

[Marener]

Three murder charges or did you forget that

Well, considering third degree has a lower threshold than second degree, I chose to go with the higher one.

There’s nothing in the law that requires it to have been planned so your request to show evidence he planned to murder Floyd is disingenuous and irrelevant.

The law is clearly explained here.

https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12646/ProposedJuryInstructions02082021.pdf

Now kindly inform yourself before posting more gibberish.

 

[Delldude]

Now kindly inform yourself before posting more gibberish.

"evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life.”

 

[Marener]

"evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life.”

When someone is saying they can’t breath and you don’t give a shit while they slowly die beneath you, I’d say that’s pretty depraved.

The jury thought so as well.

 

[Delldude]

When someone is saying they can’t breath and you don’t give a shit while they slowly die beneath you, I’d say that’s pretty depraved.

The jury thought so as well.

Why did they remove him from the car?

 

[Marener]

Why did they remove him from the car?

Ask them. It’s irrelevant.

 

[Delldude]

Ask them. It’s irrelevant.

BS.....he was vapor locking and said he couldn't breathe.

 

[Marener]

BS.....he was vapor locking and said he couldn't breathe.

Okay. Still irrelevant.

 

[Delldude]

Okay. Still irrelevant.

Died from long term drug use.

 

[Marener]

Died from long term drug use.

He didn’t die until Chauvin restricted his respiratory function.

 

[Delldude]

He didn’t die until Chauvin restricted his respiratory function.

His long term drug use was a contributing factor....so was his criminal history.

FAFO.

 

[justoffal]

It’s just virtue signaling. Dude is sitting in state prison and should get even more years for tax evasion and voter fraud. A federal pardon is meaningless.

I don't know about the other offenses mentioned in your post. However a federal pardon could lead to several different outcomes.

It could open the way for the relitigation of the entire trial which could then make its way up to the state supreme court system and after that land at SCOTUS especially if the state supreme court refuses to hear it.... Yes that's right a state trial driven all the way up to the state supreme court can then be appealed to the feds.

 

[Marener]

His long term drug use was a contributing factor....so was his criminal history.

FAFO.

It doesnt change Chauvin’s actions. Chauvin fucked around and now he’s finding out.

 

[Marener]

It could open the way for the relitigation of the entire trial

He exhausted his appeals. Pardons don’t change that.

 

[Delldude]

It doesnt change Chauvin’s actions. Chauvin fucked around and now he’s finding out.

1-5 at most.

'We gonna hang this cracker cop out to dry'