Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed at Utah Valley University

[TemplarKormac]

I believe I have uncovered some clues related to the possible killer(s). Who would benefit the most from Kirk's death?

Charlie Kirk was an American right-wing political activist, author, and media personality born on October 14, 1993, and died on September 10, 2025. He co-founded Turning Point USA (TPUSA) in 2012, a conservative organization aimed at mobilizing young conservatives on college campuses, and served as its executive director.

Kirk was a vocal supporter of Donald Trump and promoted conservative causes aligned with Trump's agenda. He was known for his strong stances against liberal education, gun control, abortion, LGBTQ rights, and for promoting Christian nationalism. Kirk was also involved in spreading conspiracy theories and misinformation, particularly around topics like electoral fraud and COVID-19. He was killed in a shooting while speaking at a TPUSA event at Utah Valley University in 2025. wikipedia+3

Groups and individuals opposing Kirk or his ideas:

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) accused him of creating a platform for extremists and far-right conspiracy theorists.

Critics have labeled some of his initiatives, like the Professor Watchlist, as modern-day McCarthyism.

He was heavily criticized for antisemitic comments and conspiracy theories related to Jewish influence, drawing rebukes even from conservative commentators and groups.

Opponents include left-leaning activists, liberal student groups, and many in the political left who strongly oppose his views on race, LGBTQ rights, and social justice issues.

His promotion of conspiracy theories and misinformation also made him a target of fact-checkers and critics across the political spectrum.

In summary, Charlie Kirk was a highly influential conservative activist and media figure, particularly among young conservatives, who was also a polarizing figure with strong opposition from liberals, left-wing groups, and some Jewish organizations due to controversial views and statements.

sources:

1. Charlie Kirk - Wikipedia
2. Charlie Kirk, conservative activist who considered himself a defender of Jews and Israel, is dead at 31 - Jewish Telegraphic Agency
3. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/10/nx-s1-5537045/charlie-kirk-shot-utah
4. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxqnkwerj7o
5. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxqnkwerj7o
6. https://apnews.com/article/charlie-...-republicans-8357c3d102de09e3320fde761258131a
7. https://news.sky.com/story/who-was-...esman-to-young-people-across-america-13428452
8. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...s-shooting-charlie-kirk-event-utah-rcna230437
9. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-obituary-shooting-donald-trump-00556516
10. https://www.wired.com/story/far-right-reactions-charlie-kirk-shooting-civil-war/

Damn dude, you need to report that s**t to the FBI, pronto.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Defined from modern German artheists? So German Jews who lived since the third century in Germany and some German Christians who lived since the second century in Germany suddenly not had been Germans any longer under the born Austrian Adolf Hitler?

What is for you a "paperwork citizen" of the USA?

No, I’m saying that because an outsider has a piece of paper that doesn’t make a real citizen or a part of the country.

Your obsession with the Nazis is charming, foolish, but cute.

 

[pknopp]

It is.

And you called those arguing that "extreme leftists".

 

[TemplarKormac]

But you can't condemn Trump's violent rhetoric.

How can I? Turnabout is fair play. It became fair play the moment the left chose to brand Trump and his followers as a "threat to democracy."

It became fair play the moment two wannabe assassins tried to kill Trump.

It became fair play the moment Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

What incentive do the MAGAs have to play nice anymore?

 

[TemplarKormac]

And you called those arguing that "extreme leftists".

Yeah? Both sides have extremists. The left however have made themselves front and center in this area.

 

[pknopp]

How can I? Turnabout is fair play. It became fair play the moment the left chose to brand Trump and his followers as a "threat to democracy."

Trump has threatened to remove the citizenship of those he does not like. You don't see that as a threat? He is arguing he can stop people simply based upon their physical make up. No threat?

It became fair play the moment two wannabe assassins tried to kill Trump.

It became fair play the moment Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

What incentive do the MAGAs have to play nice anymore?

Trump's rhetoric far precedes all of that.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trump's rhetoric far precedes all of that.

No. Go back to 2015. The left began that toxic crusade the moment Trump announced his candidacy.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trump has threatened to remove the citizenship of those he does not like. You don't see that as a threat? He is arguing he can stop people simply based upon their physical make up. No threat?

That is irrelevant to the topic.

 

[pknopp]

No. Go back to 2015. The left began that toxic crusade the moment Trump announced his candidacy.

Trump didnt say simply awful things about McCain? About how Megan Kelly was bleeding out of her whatever?

Trump has always been this way.

 

[pknopp]

That is irrelevant to the topic.

You said people were calling him a threat to democracy. I pointed out two reasons why. If you don't want something addressed, don't bring it up.

 

[Godboy]

They'll get over it quicker than a Snicker.

This has barely just begun. Your party, your politicians and your journalists are going to be paying the price for this for a very long time.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trump didnt say simply awful things about McCain? About how Megan Kelly was bleeding out of her whatever?

Trump has always been this way.

Once again, irrelevant to the topic.

I strongly advise you to return to the subject of this thread. Further posts that deviate from the subject risk removal. I have stated previously that the subject is the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Trump is not relevant. What he said, what he's done, his character traits, and etc are not relevant to the topic.

Please, remain on topic.

Thank you.

Now I am happy to discuss things of relevance to the subject if you desire! By all means!

 

[pknopp]

Once again, irrelevant to the topic.


Now I am happy to discuss things of relevance to the subject if you desire! By all means!

You brought it up.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You brought it up.

Only because such rhetoric brought about the most recent spates of political violence, against Trump and political figures, and which brought about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

What you're doing now, however, is making Trump the subject. He is not.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Only because such rhetoric brought about the most recent spates of political violence, against Trump and political figures, and which brought about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

What you're doing now, however, is making Trump the subject. He is not.

Whatever the topic, it usually descends into Trump talk.

Beating even Hitler.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I have been moderating and/or participating in this thread for the past 13 hours.

I will be passing the reins to the morning shift now. I'm going to bed.

You kids play nice, okay?

 

[DonGlock26]

OK, you want to win one? You are right. I watched the video on my 55-inch HD TV and saw that he is limping because he has something in his pants. I know it is him because the shirt matches. That couldn't be seen in that video from that tweet.

You are correct! I apologize! Now, is that satisfactory or should I grovel some more?

 

[DonGlock26]

Did Charlie Kirk Debate His Assassin Previously? - The Last Refuge

A remarkable set of circumstances unfolding as internet sleuths and researchers focus on the FBI information about the suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination. Given the detailed pictures, videos and descriptions of the suspected shooter, people are now scouring the Utah social media networks...

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[DonGlock26]

 

[Lisa558]

Boy, it sure is a good thing that Trumpsters don't run around calling anyone who disagrees with them -- from across the political spectrum -- COMMIES, SOCIALISTS, FASCISTS (?), STALINISTS (?), DEMONIC, SATANIC and EVIL. For a long time. Since the days of LIMBAUGH.

Good thing Trumpsters don't do that! Because your comment would have been spectacularly ignorant.

My "side" is the wide range of Americans who dare to not think exactly like you, including MANY Republicans and including MANY who worked for Trump in the White House.

This is indeed a "both sides" issue. And both sides refuse to admit it, because it makes them SO SIMILAR.

Can we say “irony” here? LOL.