CDZ Challenge to Trump Opponents > How Can You Justify the "HATE" Label ?

[protectionist]

Not if you believe he's nothing but an innocent victim in this campaign. You're not doing a very good job of convincing anyone.

Yes I am, because we're about 60 posts into the thread, and still no one has been able to show a shred of evidence that Trump has expressed any HATE toward anyone (except maybe Mexico who DESERVES to be hated) and that "no one" includes YOU, with your snarky little substanceless jabs.

 

[protectionist]

It takes a very special reading of what Trump said to come to your conclusion. I already said the left is exaggerating. Why are you arguing with me?

Because >>

1. you said I was pretending (I'm not)

2. you said Trump was exagerrating (he wasn't)

3. By using quotation marks on the word "sent", you suggested Mexico didn't send them (They did & they do)

And it does NOT take any special reading to come to my conclusion. It just takes OBJECTIVITY.

 

[Arianrhod]

Not if you believe he's nothing but an innocent victim in this campaign. You're not doing a very good job of convincing anyone.

Yes I am, because we're about 60 posts into the thread, and still no one has been able to show a shred of evidence that Trump has expressed any HATE toward anyone (except maybe Mexico who DESERVES to be hated)...

So Mexico "deserves" to be hated because you say so. You've also claimed Mexico (presumably the Mexican government) is responsible for sending immigrants across the border...without a shred of evidence. Are we supposed to accept "because I said so" as your argument for Everything Trump?

 

[protectionist]

Try 6, 7 and 13 for starters

I don't have to "try" them. I already tried them by reading them, and if you TRY posts# 14, 17, and 24, you will see where I refuted all 3 of those posts.

 

[protectionist]

So Mexico "deserves" to be hated because you say so. You've also claimed Mexico (presumably the Mexican government) is responsible for sending immigrants across the border...without a shred of evidence. Are we supposed to accept "because I said so" as your argument for Everything Trump?

Not only because I say so, but becasue THEY say so themselves. See Post # 24, and your evidence for sending immigrants across the border is there too. There is no secret about this. It's been well known for years

 

[Arianrhod]

So Mexico "deserves" to be hated because you say so. You've also claimed Mexico (presumably the Mexican government) is responsible for sending immigrants across the border...without a shred of evidence. Are we supposed to accept "because I said so" as your argument for Everything Trump?

Not only because I say so, but becasue THEY say so themselves. See Post # 24, and your evidence for sending immigrants across the border is there too. There is no secret about this. It's been well known for years

Your link does not say what you think it says.

 

[protectionist]

Your link does not say what you think it says.

It says exactly what I say it says. If you have a rebuttal, let's hear it.

 

[protectionist]

For those not up to par on your Spanish, it says >> "There are many factors that cause the flight of Mexican migrants to the US, but fundamentally, it is an economic characteristic for a better quality of life."

This is PARTIALLY true. It may be entirely true for the migrants themselves, but there is another major component. That is the Mexican super rich ruling class, and their running dogs in the govt. They are running an ongoing IMPERIALISM of the US, which pillages us for $24 Billion/year in remittances + tens of Billions$$ more in welfare to Mexicans in the US.

Together these average about $50 Billion/year. Wow. The Vikings would be envious.

 

[protectionist]

For anybody who naively thinks Mexico doesn't SEND illegal aliens to the US, what do you think the purpose of these things is ? >>>

These next ones are just jokes >>>

 

[protectionist]

Some of the NOT "best people" Mexico is sending us >>>

 

[miketx]

There is your challenge, Trump-bashers. We keep seeing signs held by Trump opponents at Trump rallies. They say "STOP THE HATE". What "hate" ? What are you talking about ? Be prepared to present specifics, and back them up with source/link evidence. Forget hollow rhetoric attacks. All they do is show you have no substance to present, thereby minimizing your stance, and becoming more victories for Trump.

You have the floor. You think you have evidence of Trump hating somebody ? Here's your chance to put it out here. Tell us HOW. Let's hear it.

This is the thing with being a liberal today. They know they don't have to justify anything. The media never calls them out, and the government does not either. It's win win for them until we can rid ourselves of the liberal blight.

 

[Arianrhod]

It says exactly what I say it says.

Nope.

If you have a rebuttal, let's hear it.

Confirmation bias.

This is the thing with being a liberal today. They know they don't have to justify anything. The media never calls them out, and the government does not either. It's win win for them until we can rid ourselves of the liberal blight.

The thing is, though, that Trump no longer styles himself as a liberal. He's been trying to distance himself from his past stances by pretending they never happened and he never said them. You might want to bring yourself up to speed. If you called him a liberal in person, he'd get one of his "fans" to punch you in the face.

 

[miketx]

I wasn't calling Trump a liberal. I referring to those like you.

 

[Arianrhod]

I wasn't calling Trump a liberal. I referring to those like you.

I'm a name on a message board. You don't know anything about me.

The topic is Trump. If you're not interested, why are you posting in this thread?

 

[miketx]

NO the topic is about Trump opponents. My post was very clearly directed toward those and to people like you.

 

[Arianrhod]

NO the topic is about Trump opponents. My post was very clearly directed toward those and to people like you.

Then the second half of the post is extraneous, yet the OP won't tell you you're OFF TOPIC in uppercase letters. Stick to declaring your hate for Trump opponents. Do you think they should be silenced? If so, how?

 

[protectionist]

Nope.

Confirmation bias.

The thing is, though, that Trump no longer styles himself as a liberal. He's been trying to distance himself from his past stances by pretending they never happened and he never said them. You might want to bring yourself up to speed. If you called him a liberal in person, he'd get one of his "fans" to punch you in the face.

1. I'm not sure what the "confirmation bias" is supposed to mean, but I challenged you for a rebuttal, and you didn't do it. So my Post, link and all, stands unchallenged,and fully intact. You still have a chance to rebut it if you want to, but you're going to need to speak SENTENCES, in order to make a point, not just a little catchword here or there that doesn't make any sense.

2. Trump's past stances do not disagree with his current ones. Would you like to see proof of that ? Proof available on request. (to bring YOU up to speed).

There has been a ton of BS put out by the liberal media and I notice that liberals are eating it up left ans right. This puts a lot of pressure on those of us who know the true facts to present them and repair the distortions that seem to be everywhere.

PS - "Nope" is not a rebuttal. It is an admission that you have NO RESPONSE.

 

[protectionist]

Then the second half of the post is extraneous, yet the OP won't tell you you're OFF TOPIC in uppercase letters. Stick to declaring your hate for Trump opponents. Do you think they should be silenced? If so, how?

How about if YOU try to answer the question of the OP, Mr Dodge ?.... instead of asking him questions.

 

[protectionist]

Your link does not say what you think it says.

You still have not backed this up.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

There is your challenge, Trump-bashers. We keep seeing signs held by Trump opponents at Trump rallies. They say "STOP THE HATE". What "hate" ? What are you talking about ? Be prepared to present specifics, and back them up with source/link evidence. Forget hollow rhetoric attacks. All they do is show you have no substance to present, thereby minimizing your stance, and becoming more victories for Trump.

You have the floor. You think you have evidence of Trump hating somebody ? Here's your chance to put it out here. Tell us HOW. Let's hear it.

I wonder how it is you can miss the irony of this statement given that Donald Trump has not bothered to "present substance" behind any of his policy views (to the extent he has policy views) throughout his joke of a campaign.

Donald Trump thinks he's an entertainer, and he thinks the job of the Presidency is akin to being a reality show subject. And Trump supporters are buying into this, because they, too, do not have a comprehensive understanding of what it means to be head of our government. They don't understand the implications of someone who cannot coherently communicate a policy position (without completely changing his mind, often on the same day) sitting down to negotiate with Putin, Angela Merkel, or the president of Iran.

As for the "hate", I think it's pretty clear there is hatred behind the following stated proposals/facts, as understood or proffered by Trump:

1. Banning Muslims from entering the U.S.
2. Killing all family members of suspected terrorists.
3. Referring to all Mexican immigrants as rapists/criminals
4. Referring to a woman doing a distinctly feminine thing (such as breastfeeding) as "disgusting".
5. Constantly referencing the worth of certain women by virtue of their appearance, etc. etc.

It goes on and on. If you don't identify any of this as hate, then we have to disagree, respectfully or not. Blanketly imposing punishment on an entire group of people merely because of their ideology/religion/gender/race, is, indeed, hatred. Whether you want it to be or not.

Don't forget his imaginary wall.

What little he says is lies though and we know he'll flip flop tomorrow. Then he'll flip flop back again.

My objection to him is not so much his "hate", the kkk/fascist views, Commie wife, the lies about barring Muslims or even the hundreds and hundreds of other lies he has told.

He has no position on any thing. Nothing. As long as he can yammer on about how wonderful he is, he seems to do okay but the very moment he ventures into a serious comment, he gets lost very quickly. He just can't do it.

My objection is that I believe, and mental health professionals have said, he's actually mentally ill.

And he does plan to take the US down, has stated he wants a "worker party" and would not hesitate to borrow money from China because he says, he can "make a deal".

In a word, he's daft.