- Aug 3, 2009
- Reaction score
- San Francisco Bay Area
I made my point in a clear and concise manner in post 19 above. Voter ID is a canard, it becomes a focus for the right wing only in election years. If The Congress felt a national ID card was a serious issue Boehner would have put a bill before the H. of Rep. when he became speaker in Jan. 2011.Dear tinydancer and Wry Catcher:There are many I would like to debate you on, but sadly at this point in time I am limited to choosing one.
Voter ID in America.
3 hour limit. Now I've got Gambini in my soul, and I'm hot so I really can go longer, but 3 hours is good for me.
As a believer in free speech, I ask not to put restriction on time.
I ask to set up the discussion where it can lead to resolving the root causes of conflict
and reach a healthy constructive resolution.
if it takes talking about additional issues, then lay those out.
That's more important than setting up a straw man or whatever that is not the real problem.
We aren't going to resolve public policies either if we keep limited the laws and discussions
to just what is convenient. We need to base it on what works to resolve grievances and represent the people.
So that usually takes more than 3 hours talking about 1 thing if the issue involves MORE than that.
I say go for resolving the issue.
if you don't have time, if you tell me what the conflict is, I can offer to volunteer to step in,
but I may be on WC side equally as the other. So I may not be able to help all the way, only halfway with some of it.
My issues with voting are the entire set up is FU.
People do not need to be competing by party
which is as bound to fail as voting by religion, to pit Muslims against Hindus
where you encourage bullying. So I say we need to resolve conflicts first
and then elect hire and appoint people who can represent and mediate to defend those interests.
All views beliefs and objections shoudl be included.
tinydancer if we keep running elections and writing legislation to limit choices to
either A or B with only 3 hours to resolve how to write out option A and B,
we continue to fail. so no, I think the whole approach needs overhaul.
and once we set it up right, then it won't matter so much if there is ID or not
because each party will be responsible for its own members. so if you don't
card or track your members, then you will end up paying for a bunch of freeloaders.
Leave it to parties to be responsible financially and legally for policies for their members,
and I bet they will find a way to check membership with or without ID.
I support voter ID, if and only if it is done in the spirit I proposed in post #19!
And I stand by my observation that Listening is a dumb & partisan POS!