the other mike
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Too early to say.None of the Dem candidates can stand toe to toe with Trump in a debate he'll mop the floor with them.
A debate right now he would likely win, but a lot
can happen in 14 months.
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Too early to say.None of the Dem candidates can stand toe to toe with Trump in a debate he'll mop the floor with them.
Yes he can run in his record of drastically increasing deficits. Or maybe slowing the economy, farmers love his trade war. Stagnant market? So much to run on.If they try to shove Biden down our throats he will.We'll see when Trump is laughed out of the White HouseAh...Fake News the OP is laughable.![]()
by Pocahontas or the Sandman.
LMAOTrump is still the president
Trump won again??
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None of the Dem candidates can stand toe to toe with Trump in a debate he'll mop the floor with them.
I'm blaming them for workers wages not keeping up with rises in productivity.
My concern is not some sort of relative comparison between workers and CEOs, but a desire for a better outcome for American workers, ie higher wages.
Union jobs were sent to China. Hence decreased membership and stagnant wages.Because the republican war on unions is why they left in the first place.And I suppose you now claim to want those jobs back? That is funny.They stopped rising after we cut the bottom out from unions.
Workers who can’t organize are left on their own. Easy prey to corporate masters
On the flip side, labor unions and workers who organized those were singularly responsible for China, India, Taiwan, Japan, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, etc. being the economic powers they are today, thereby causing the massive loss of American jobs. Did you expect all those American manufacturers to buckle and lose profit because of the extortion from organized labor?
That was one of Trump's primary messages. Did you miss the primaries?
Why do you think that is funny?
It does not make sense that decreased union membership HERE, is a reason to send jobs overseas.
I'm blaming them for workers wages not keeping up with rises in productivity.
My concern is not some sort of relative comparison between workers and CEOs, but a desire for a better outcome for American workers, ie higher wages.
Remember 30 years ago there were no billionaires ( a handful around the world). Go back and watch Oliver Stone's movie Wall Street- it's more of a financial documentary than a Hollywood film. Multi-millionaire ( $50 - $100 million) was a big deal back then. Do you remember what the minimum wage was ? $3.35 an hour ( 40 hours for 52 weeks no vacation is about $7000 a year)
That is a big reason there are thousands of billionaires now and everyone else is in debt.
Union jobs were sent to China. Hence decreased membership and stagnant wages.Because the republican war on unions is why they left in the first place.And I suppose you now claim to want those jobs back? That is funny.On the flip side, labor unions and workers who organized those were singularly responsible for China, India, Taiwan, Japan, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, etc. being the economic powers they are today, thereby causing the massive loss of American jobs. Did you expect all those American manufacturers to buckle and lose profit because of the extortion from organized labor?
That was one of Trump's primary messages. Did you miss the primaries?
Why do you think that is funny?
It does not make sense that decreased union membership HERE, is a reason to send jobs overseas.
Republicans turned good paid union workers into villains which made it ok to buy products from other countries. Previously people wanted to buy USA made.It’s a political game. They don’t care about workers, they sent the jobs away in the first place.Yes the republicans sent our well paying jobs to china with their war on unions. Now they pretend to want those jobs back.Pretty funny that workers wages stopped rising not long after we changed immigration laws to allow massive Third WOrld immigration.
But hey, let's not try changing the things that cause "inequality". That misses the point.
The point is just to talk about it. And make vague anti-American posts.
They stopped rising after we cut the bottom out from unions.
Workers who can’t organize are left on their own. Easy prey to corporate masters
Why do you say "pretend"?
So, you missed that entire debate about Free Trade Ideologues vs economic self interest Populism in the primaries?
What actually happened was the Free Trade Ideologues used to rule the GOP. They got their way for a long time.
The results were not what they promised.
Eventually, far too slowly, imo, the less Ideologically and more pragmatic republicans, managed to sway the party to a new direction.
The Free Traders who sent the jobs overseas, were not pretending. They believe in Free Trade.
The Economic Nationalists who want those jobs back, are not pretending. We want those jobs back.
This should not be confusing to you.
And now even if those jobs do come back half will be replaced by robots and other A I.Union jobs were sent to China. Hence decreased membership and stagnant wages.
Republicans turned good paid union workers into villains which made it ok to buy products from other countries. Previously people wanted to buy USA made.It’s a political game. They don’t care about workers, they sent the jobs away in the first place.Yes the republicans sent our well paying jobs to china with their war on unions. Now they pretend to want those jobs back.They stopped rising after we cut the bottom out from unions.
Workers who can’t organize are left on their own. Easy prey to corporate masters
Why do you say "pretend"?
So, you missed that entire debate about Free Trade Ideologues vs economic self interest Populism in the primaries?
What actually happened was the Free Trade Ideologues used to rule the GOP. They got their way for a long time.
The results were not what they promised.
Eventually, far too slowly, imo, the less Ideologically and more pragmatic republicans, managed to sway the party to a new direction.
The Free Traders who sent the jobs overseas, were not pretending. They believe in Free Trade.
The Economic Nationalists who want those jobs back, are not pretending. We want those jobs back.
This should not be confusing to you.
Repubs turned union workers into villains. They are to blame. Not the rich getting richer making products in China.Union jobs were sent to China. Hence decreased membership and stagnant wages.Because the republican war on unions is why they left in the first place.And I suppose you now claim to want those jobs back? That is funny.
That was one of Trump's primary messages. Did you miss the primaries?
Why do you think that is funny?
It does not make sense that decreased union membership HERE, is a reason to send jobs overseas.
And you bought cheap shit from China
AI and robots are the same thingAnd now even if those jobs do come back half will be replaced by robots and other AI.Union jobs were sent to China. Hence decreased membership and stagnant wages.Because the republican war on unions is why they left in the first place.And I suppose you now claim to want those jobs back? That is funny.
That was one of Trump's primary messages. Did you miss the primaries?
Why do you think that is funny?
It does not make sense that decreased union membership HERE, is a reason to send jobs overseas.
That’s what repubs say. Can’t have good paid jobs here.Republicans turned good paid union workers into villains which made it ok to buy products from other countries. Previously people wanted to buy USA made.It’s a political game. They don’t care about workers, they sent the jobs away in the first place.Yes the republicans sent our well paying jobs to china with their war on unions. Now they pretend to want those jobs back.
Why do you say "pretend"?
So, you missed that entire debate about Free Trade Ideologues vs economic self interest Populism in the primaries?
What actually happened was the Free Trade Ideologues used to rule the GOP. They got their way for a long time.
The results were not what they promised.
Eventually, far too slowly, imo, the less Ideologically and more pragmatic republicans, managed to sway the party to a new direction.
The Free Traders who sent the jobs overseas, were not pretending. They believe in Free Trade.
The Economic Nationalists who want those jobs back, are not pretending. We want those jobs back.
This should not be confusing to you.
Lazy *****?
obama made deals with china to send them manufacturing jobs - you really need to see the whole picture, not just run around with your bitter-beer-face shit all the time.Republicans turned good paid union workers into villains which made it ok to buy products from other countries. Previously people wanted to buy USA made.It’s a political game. They don’t care about workers, they sent the jobs away in the first place.Yes the republicans sent our well paying jobs to china with their war on unions. Now they pretend to want those jobs back.They stopped rising after we cut the bottom out from unions.
Workers who can’t organize are left on their own. Easy prey to corporate masters
Why do you say "pretend"?
So, you missed that entire debate about Free Trade Ideologues vs economic self interest Populism in the primaries?
What actually happened was the Free Trade Ideologues used to rule the GOP. They got their way for a long time.
The results were not what they promised.
Eventually, far too slowly, imo, the less Ideologically and more pragmatic republicans, managed to sway the party to a new direction.
The Free Traders who sent the jobs overseas, were not pretending. They believe in Free Trade.
The Economic Nationalists who want those jobs back, are not pretending. We want those jobs back.
This should not be confusing to you.
Like the left hates union jobs in Washington state?That’s what repubs say. Can’t have good paid jobs here.Republicans turned good paid union workers into villains which made it ok to buy products from other countries. Previously people wanted to buy USA made.It’s a political game. They don’t care about workers, they sent the jobs away in the first place.Why do you say "pretend"?
So, you missed that entire debate about Free Trade Ideologues vs economic self interest Populism in the primaries?
What actually happened was the Free Trade Ideologues used to rule the GOP. They got their way for a long time.
The results were not what they promised.
Eventually, far too slowly, imo, the less Ideologically and more pragmatic republicans, managed to sway the party to a new direction.
The Free Traders who sent the jobs overseas, were not pretending. They believe in Free Trade.
The Economic Nationalists who want those jobs back, are not pretending. We want those jobs back.
This should not be confusing to you.
Lazy *****?
It means Reaganomics , bad trade deals , deregulation, monopolized media, andAnd that means what?
Many CEOs make a dollar a year. It's income inequality!
13 top executives who earn a $1 salary or less
Obama is quite a while after all the real damage was done.obama made deals with china to send them manufacturing jobs - you really need to see the whole picture, not just run around with your bitter-beer-face shit all the time.Republicans turned good paid union workers into villains which made it ok to buy products from other countries. Previously people wanted to buy USA made.It’s a political game. They don’t care about workers, they sent the jobs away in the first place.Yes the republicans sent our well paying jobs to china with their war on unions. Now they pretend to want those jobs back.
Why do you say "pretend"?
So, you missed that entire debate about Free Trade Ideologues vs economic self interest Populism in the primaries?
What actually happened was the Free Trade Ideologues used to rule the GOP. They got their way for a long time.
The results were not what they promised.
Eventually, far too slowly, imo, the less Ideologically and more pragmatic republicans, managed to sway the party to a new direction.
The Free Traders who sent the jobs overseas, were not pretending. They believe in Free Trade.
The Economic Nationalists who want those jobs back, are not pretending. We want those jobs back.
This should not be confusing to you.
You will have to explain. Aren't we subsidizing Israel military hardware? Why should we do that?Like the left hates union jobs in Washington state?That’s what repubs say. Can’t have good paid jobs here.Republicans turned good paid union workers into villains which made it ok to buy products from other countries. Previously people wanted to buy USA made.It’s a political game. They don’t care about workers, they sent the jobs away in the first place.
So, you missed that entire debate about Free Trade Ideologues vs economic self interest Populism in the primaries?
What actually happened was the Free Trade Ideologues used to rule the GOP. They got their way for a long time.
The results were not what they promised.
Eventually, far too slowly, imo, the less Ideologically and more pragmatic republicans, managed to sway the party to a new direction.
The Free Traders who sent the jobs overseas, were not pretending. They believe in Free Trade.
The Economic Nationalists who want those jobs back, are not pretending. We want those jobs back.
This should not be confusing to you.
Lazy *****?
You know great union jobs that give Israel military hardware?
Yes he can run in his record of drastically increasing deficits. Or maybe slowing the economy, farmers love his trade war. Stagnant market? So much to run on.If they try to shove Biden down our throats he will.We'll see when Trump is laughed out of the White HouseAh...Fake News the OP is laughable.![]()
by Pocahontas or the Sandman.
LMAOTrump is still the president
Trump won again??
![]()
None of the Dem candidates can stand toe to toe with Trump in a debate he'll mop the floor with them.