Hitler was a big supporter of the anti-semitism invented by the early Christian church. Christianity has to take a large share of blame for the holocaust.Why stop there? Why not mention the Catholic church persecuting Jews for centuries, making them wear a star of David, kicking them out of entire countries, putting them in ghettos, and rounding them all up and killing them in mass? Essentially, everything that was done to the Jews in the Holocaust was done centuries, prior, only it was done more efficiently. In fact, Hitler claimed publically to be a Christian as well.In the midst of the plague, I thought this thread would lift a few spirits in terms of how Christ has helped change the world when it comes to health care.
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— Early 2nd century: Christians by this time have developed church infrastructure to assist the sick. This assistance is usually led by deacons and deaconesses and focuses on palliative care.
— Late 2nd century: Galen (c. 131–201) practices as a physician and publishes the medical treatises that will form the basis of Western medicine for centuries.
— 250–51: Devastating plague spreads throughout the Western Roman Empire, causing the church to expand its program of benevolence. The church at Rome is said to minister to 1,500 widows and others in need, spending annually an estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 sesterces.
— 4th century: Bishops in the eastern half of the empire begin to establish xenodocheia as Christian welfare institutions for the sick and poor.
— 330: Basil of Caesarea (c. 330–379) is born into a Christian family from Cappadocia in Asia Minor (central Turkey).
—360: Basil founds his hospital in Cappadocia; he is ordained bishop in 370.
— The decades after 370: In Constantinople, Alexandria, and throughout the Eastern empire, many hospitals are founded on the example of Basil’s great “Basileum.”
— Late 4th century: John Chrysostom (c. 349–407) tells us that the Great Church in Antioch, Syria, supported 3,000 widows and unmarried women, as well as the sick, the poor, and travelers.
— Late 4th century: Fabiola (d. 399?) establishes first Roman hospitals.
— 540: The Nestorians, having been forced to flee after the Council of Ephesus (431) declared them heretics, found a hospital at Gondishapur on the Persian Gulf which becomes a center of medical knowledge from a number of traditions: Persian, Alexandrian, Greek, Jewish, Hindu, and Chinese.
— 526: Benedict of Nursia (c. 480–c. 530) founds his monastery at Monte Cassino. His Rule emphasizes hospitality to the stranger.
— 541–749: Repeated waves of bubonic plague strike and devastate the Eastern empire.
— 549–580: First hospitals founded in France and Spain.
— 7th century: Isidore of Seville (c. 560–636) publishes Etymologiae, an encyclopedia of classical learning that includes a lengthy guide to Greek medicine.
— 7th century: The Venerable Bede (c. 672–735) collects and publishes medical writings.
— 9th century: Medical School at Salerno founded.
— 937: First hospital built in England.
— 9th–10th centuries: Benedictine monks in the West preserve ancient medical science during a time of unrest as they copy medical manuscripts, maintain herb gardens, and experiment with elixirs to cure diseases. Hospitals enter period of decline, lack of funds, and in some cases destruction, but many bishops and clergy still work to do what they can for the poor.
— 9th–10th centuries: Jerusalem Hospital founded by a community of Augustinians.
— 1099: First Crusade arrives in Jerusalem and new building erected for the Jerusalem Hospital, funded by donations of grateful and wealthy crusaders.
— By 11th century: a succession of Benedictine monks at the Medical School at Salerno, in cooperation with Jewish translators, have translated many Greek and Arabic medical texts into Latin, re-introducing them to the West. The most popular translated texts are known as the Articella (Little Art of Medicine) and include Hippocrates and Galen.
— 12th century: Religious orders devoted to the care of the sick begin to arise, most of them following the Rule of St. Augustine (based on writings of St. Augustine of Hippo [354–430] although not traceable directly to him).
— 12th century: Observers describe the hospital in Jerusalem as capable of
housing around 1,000 patients in as many as 11 wards. Muslim and Jewish patients are welcome too, and are fed chicken in place of pork.
— Early 12th century: Franciscan order of mendicant (“begging&rdquo brothers arises from the life and work of Francis of Assisi (1182–1226). ranciscans and other similar orders (Dominicans, Carmelites) originally own no property, and emphasize works of mercy and identification with the poor.
— 1113: Brothers of Hospital of St. John, later Knights Hospitaller, established as first international religious order.
— 12th century: Master Raymond du Puy (1120–1160) instructs the Knights Hospitaller on “How our Lords the Sick should be received and served.”
— 12th century: Full development of the doctrine of purgatory out of earlier ideas of the necessity of doing penance for sins. This provides further impetus for Christian almsgiving. — 1136: Construction begins on the Pantokrator, the greatest of Byzantine hospitals.
— c. 1145–early 13th century: Augustinian brothers from Montpellier in France organize hospitals dedicated to the Holy Spirit, first in France and then (1204) in Rome. The order and the hospitals founded by them spread widely throughout Europe.
— 1157: Cistercians (a reform movement of Benedictines) forbid monk physicians to treat laypeople. (This is in part to prevent them from developing lucrative and distracting private businesses.)
— 1187: Saladin captures Jerusalem and forces Knights Hospitaller to leave. They found other hospitals in the Holy Land.
— 1191: Teutonic Order founded in the Holy Land as a brotherhood devoted to the service of the sick; later moves its base of operations to Germany.
— 12th–13th century: The rise of the mendicants and devotion to the Passion radically increases the number of hospitals founded in Western Europe. Hundreds of leprosaria are also built to deal with an epidemic of leprosy. — Early 13th century: Pope Innocent III (1160–1216, made pope 1198) promotes the new outpouring of piety among the mendicant orders.
— 1207: Innocent III adds “burying the dead” to the six works of mercy noted in Matthew 25 (feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, giving shelter to strangers, clothing the naked, visiting the sick, visiting the imprisoned); these became known as the Seven Comfortable Works.
— 13th century: Elizabeth of Hungary (1207–1231) becomes a symbol of Christian charity; widowed at 20, she gives her wealth to the poor and builds hospitals.
— 13th century: Regimen sanitatis salernitatum is compiled, one of the most famous of medieval “regimens”; it supposedly originates at the Medical School at Salerno.
— 13th century: Earliest known contracts for public physicians (employed by towns and cities) in Italy. This system spreads throughout Europe by the early 16th century.
— 13th–16th centuries: Over 150 hospitals founded in Germany.
— 14th century: Black Death (probably bubonic plague) ravages Europe. St. Roche (1295?–1370) becomes known for his miraculous cures of many plague
sufferers.
— 14th–15th centuries: Guilds of surgeons, barbers, and physicians
begin to develop in Europe.
— 16th century: Order of St. John of God begins building hospitals for the insane in Spain.
What about poor Native Americans, hunted by Christians with dogs fed with human meat?
But whether it is hunting down Jews or Indians or infidels or Stalin, who was an avowed atheist, hunting down political opponents and people of faith, the underlying commonality of all of them is the power of the state.
The state, by far, is the one entity in the history of humanity that has murdered more people than any other human institution.
Christ tried to warn us.
John 18 New International Version (NIV)Jesus Arrested
Jesus Before Pilate
28 Then the Jewish leaders took Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman governor. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness they did not enter the palace, because they wanted to be able to eat the Passover. 29 So Pilate came out to them and asked, “What charges are you bringing against this man?”
30 “If he were not a criminal,” they replied, “we would not have handed him over to you.”
31 Pilate said, “Take him yourselves and judge him by your own law.”
“But we have no right to execute anyone,” they objected. 32 This took place to fulfill what Jesus had said about the kind of death he was going to die.
33 Pilate then went back inside the palace, summoned Jesus and asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?”
34 “Is that your own idea,” Jesus asked, “or did others talk to you about me?”
35 “Am I a Jew?” Pilate replied. “Your own people and chief priests handed you over to me. What is it you have done?”
36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”
38 “What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him. 39 But it is your custom for me to release to you one prisoner at the time of the Passover. Do you want me to release ‘the king of the Jews’?”
40 They shouted back, “No, not him! Give us Barabbas!” Now Barabbas had taken part in an uprising.
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Wait.....wut?
So it is immaterial that Hitler claimed to be a Christian but it is material that the Gestapo, who Hitler ordered around, was?
That logic is nonsensical.
As I have said, Hitler wished he had been born in a culture with a religion other than Christianity. However, that did not prevent him from dissecting the Bible and taking the parts he liked while throwing away the parts he hated, which was most of it. For example, Hitler loved the story of Jesus chasing away the Jewish money changers with a whip in the temple who were cheating people. Just with this story alone, he self identified as a Christian. Naturally he denied Jesus as being Jewish, which the Bible claims he was. Even without the story, however, Hitler felt compelled to claim to be a Christian because of the society in which he resided that was heavily influenced by it.
But whether it is a Catholic Pope hunting down Jews to persecute Jews or Hitler, the common theme with both is the state. Men claim to speak for Christ while ignoring his teachings and commandments, all in the name of political power.
Conversely, Jesus never led and army or held a political post and warned that his kingdom was not of this world nor could be. Naturally, those who try to make the Kingdom of God as a world political entity don't really much seem to care much about such warnings.
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Hitler was a big supporter of the anti-semitism invented by the early Christian church. Christianity has to take a large share of blame for the holocaust.Why stop there? Why not mention the Catholic church persecuting Jews for centuries, making them wear a star of David, kicking them out of entire countries, putting them in ghettos, and rounding them all up and killing them in mass? Essentially, everything that was done to the Jews in the Holocaust was done centuries, prior, only it was done more efficiently. In fact, Hitler claimed publically to be a Christian as well.In the midst of the plague, I thought this thread would lift a few spirits in terms of how Christ has helped change the world when it comes to health care.
Christian History Timeline: Healthcare and Hospitals in the Mission of the Church | Christian History Magazine
Christian History Institute (CHI) provides church history resources and self-study material and publishes the quarterly Christian History Magazine. Our aim is to make Christian history enjoyable and applicable to the widest possible audience.
— Early 2nd century: Christians by this time have developed church infrastructure to assist the sick. This assistance is usually led by deacons and deaconesses and focuses on palliative care.
— Late 2nd century: Galen (c. 131–201) practices as a physician and publishes the medical treatises that will form the basis of Western medicine for centuries.
— 250–51: Devastating plague spreads throughout the Western Roman Empire, causing the church to expand its program of benevolence. The church at Rome is said to minister to 1,500 widows and others in need, spending annually an estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 sesterces.
— 4th century: Bishops in the eastern half of the empire begin to establish xenodocheia as Christian welfare institutions for the sick and poor.
— 330: Basil of Caesarea (c. 330–379) is born into a Christian family from Cappadocia in Asia Minor (central Turkey).
—360: Basil founds his hospital in Cappadocia; he is ordained bishop in 370.
— The decades after 370: In Constantinople, Alexandria, and throughout the Eastern empire, many hospitals are founded on the example of Basil’s great “Basileum.”
— Late 4th century: John Chrysostom (c. 349–407) tells us that the Great Church in Antioch, Syria, supported 3,000 widows and unmarried women, as well as the sick, the poor, and travelers.
— Late 4th century: Fabiola (d. 399?) establishes first Roman hospitals.
— 540: The Nestorians, having been forced to flee after the Council of Ephesus (431) declared them heretics, found a hospital at Gondishapur on the Persian Gulf which becomes a center of medical knowledge from a number of traditions: Persian, Alexandrian, Greek, Jewish, Hindu, and Chinese.
— 526: Benedict of Nursia (c. 480–c. 530) founds his monastery at Monte Cassino. His Rule emphasizes hospitality to the stranger.
— 541–749: Repeated waves of bubonic plague strike and devastate the Eastern empire.
— 549–580: First hospitals founded in France and Spain.
— 7th century: Isidore of Seville (c. 560–636) publishes Etymologiae, an encyclopedia of classical learning that includes a lengthy guide to Greek medicine.
— 7th century: The Venerable Bede (c. 672–735) collects and publishes medical writings.
— 9th century: Medical School at Salerno founded.
— 937: First hospital built in England.
— 9th–10th centuries: Benedictine monks in the West preserve ancient medical science during a time of unrest as they copy medical manuscripts, maintain herb gardens, and experiment with elixirs to cure diseases. Hospitals enter period of decline, lack of funds, and in some cases destruction, but many bishops and clergy still work to do what they can for the poor.
— 9th–10th centuries: Jerusalem Hospital founded by a community of Augustinians.
— 1099: First Crusade arrives in Jerusalem and new building erected for the Jerusalem Hospital, funded by donations of grateful and wealthy crusaders.
— By 11th century: a succession of Benedictine monks at the Medical School at Salerno, in cooperation with Jewish translators, have translated many Greek and Arabic medical texts into Latin, re-introducing them to the West. The most popular translated texts are known as the Articella (Little Art of Medicine) and include Hippocrates and Galen.
— 12th century: Religious orders devoted to the care of the sick begin to arise, most of them following the Rule of St. Augustine (based on writings of St. Augustine of Hippo [354–430] although not traceable directly to him).
— 12th century: Observers describe the hospital in Jerusalem as capable of
housing around 1,000 patients in as many as 11 wards. Muslim and Jewish patients are welcome too, and are fed chicken in place of pork.
— Early 12th century: Franciscan order of mendicant (“begging&rdquo brothers arises from the life and work of Francis of Assisi (1182–1226). ranciscans and other similar orders (Dominicans, Carmelites) originally own no property, and emphasize works of mercy and identification with the poor.
— 1113: Brothers of Hospital of St. John, later Knights Hospitaller, established as first international religious order.
— 12th century: Master Raymond du Puy (1120–1160) instructs the Knights Hospitaller on “How our Lords the Sick should be received and served.”
— 12th century: Full development of the doctrine of purgatory out of earlier ideas of the necessity of doing penance for sins. This provides further impetus for Christian almsgiving. — 1136: Construction begins on the Pantokrator, the greatest of Byzantine hospitals.
— c. 1145–early 13th century: Augustinian brothers from Montpellier in France organize hospitals dedicated to the Holy Spirit, first in France and then (1204) in Rome. The order and the hospitals founded by them spread widely throughout Europe.
— 1157: Cistercians (a reform movement of Benedictines) forbid monk physicians to treat laypeople. (This is in part to prevent them from developing lucrative and distracting private businesses.)
— 1187: Saladin captures Jerusalem and forces Knights Hospitaller to leave. They found other hospitals in the Holy Land.
— 1191: Teutonic Order founded in the Holy Land as a brotherhood devoted to the service of the sick; later moves its base of operations to Germany.
— 12th–13th century: The rise of the mendicants and devotion to the Passion radically increases the number of hospitals founded in Western Europe. Hundreds of leprosaria are also built to deal with an epidemic of leprosy. — Early 13th century: Pope Innocent III (1160–1216, made pope 1198) promotes the new outpouring of piety among the mendicant orders.
— 1207: Innocent III adds “burying the dead” to the six works of mercy noted in Matthew 25 (feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, giving shelter to strangers, clothing the naked, visiting the sick, visiting the imprisoned); these became known as the Seven Comfortable Works.
— 13th century: Elizabeth of Hungary (1207–1231) becomes a symbol of Christian charity; widowed at 20, she gives her wealth to the poor and builds hospitals.
— 13th century: Regimen sanitatis salernitatum is compiled, one of the most famous of medieval “regimens”; it supposedly originates at the Medical School at Salerno.
— 13th century: Earliest known contracts for public physicians (employed by towns and cities) in Italy. This system spreads throughout Europe by the early 16th century.
— 13th–16th centuries: Over 150 hospitals founded in Germany.
— 14th century: Black Death (probably bubonic plague) ravages Europe. St. Roche (1295?–1370) becomes known for his miraculous cures of many plague
sufferers.
— 14th–15th centuries: Guilds of surgeons, barbers, and physicians
begin to develop in Europe.
— 16th century: Order of St. John of God begins building hospitals for the insane in Spain.
What about poor Native Americans, hunted by Christians with dogs fed with human meat?
But whether it is hunting down Jews or Indians or infidels or Stalin, who was an avowed atheist, hunting down political opponents and people of faith, the underlying commonality of all of them is the power of the state.
The state, by far, is the one entity in the history of humanity that has murdered more people than any other human institution.
Christ tried to warn us.
John 18 New International Version (NIV)Jesus Arrested
Jesus Before Pilate
28 Then the Jewish leaders took Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman governor. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness they did not enter the palace, because they wanted to be able to eat the Passover. 29 So Pilate came out to them and asked, “What charges are you bringing against this man?”
30 “If he were not a criminal,” they replied, “we would not have handed him over to you.”
31 Pilate said, “Take him yourselves and judge him by your own law.”
“But we have no right to execute anyone,” they objected. 32 This took place to fulfill what Jesus had said about the kind of death he was going to die.
33 Pilate then went back inside the palace, summoned Jesus and asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?”
34 “Is that your own idea,” Jesus asked, “or did others talk to you about me?”
35 “Am I a Jew?” Pilate replied. “Your own people and chief priests handed you over to me. What is it you have done?”
36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”
38 “What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him. 39 But it is your custom for me to release to you one prisoner at the time of the Passover. Do you want me to release ‘the king of the Jews’?”
40 They shouted back, “No, not him! Give us Barabbas!” Now Barabbas had taken part in an uprising.
Christians invented anti-Semitism?
LOL.
Were they not slaves in Egypt for 400 some odd years previous to that?
Once the Guttenberg press allowed people to have their own copies of the Bible, the Jewish persecution waned considerably, as did the political influence of the Pope to the point of having no real political power at all anymore. For you see, people could read it for themselves instead of just taking the word of the church for it as the manipulated it for their benefit politically and materially.
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The fighting between the Catholics and Protestants was not about forcing people to worship one way or another, rather, it was all over political power.
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There is a theory I heard as to why Christianity grew into the religion it is today. Early Christians turned to each other and to God for help while their pagan neighbors sacrificed to their gods for help. Didn't matter if God existed or not, the Christian community as a whole would have been generally better off and a beacon to the envious pagans.In the midst of the plague, I thought this thread would lift a few spirits in terms of how Christ has helped change the world when it comes to health care.
Christian History Timeline: Healthcare and Hospitals in the Mission of the Church | Christian History Magazine
Christian History Institute (CHI) provides church history resources and self-study material and publishes the quarterly Christian History Magazine. Our aim is to make Christian history enjoyable and applicable to the widest possible audience.
— Early 2nd century: Christians by this time have developed church infrastructure to assist the sick. This assistance is usually led by deacons and deaconesses and focuses on palliative care.
— Late 2nd century: Galen (c. 131–201) practices as a physician and publishes the medical treatises that will form the basis of Western medicine for centuries.
— 250–51: Devastating plague spreads throughout the Western Roman Empire, causing the church to expand its program of benevolence. The church at Rome is said to minister to 1,500 widows and others in need, spending annually an estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 sesterces.
— 4th century: Bishops in the eastern half of the empire begin to establish xenodocheia as Christian welfare institutions for the sick and poor.
— 330: Basil of Caesarea (c. 330–379) is born into a Christian family from Cappadocia in Asia Minor (central Turkey).
—360: Basil founds his hospital in Cappadocia; he is ordained bishop in 370.
— The decades after 370: In Constantinople, Alexandria, and throughout the Eastern empire, many hospitals are founded on the example of Basil’s great “Basileum.”
— Late 4th century: John Chrysostom (c. 349–407) tells us that the Great Church in Antioch, Syria, supported 3,000 widows and unmarried women, as well as the sick, the poor, and travelers.
— Late 4th century: Fabiola (d. 399?) establishes first Roman hospitals.
— 540: The Nestorians, having been forced to flee after the Council of Ephesus (431) declared them heretics, found a hospital at Gondishapur on the Persian Gulf which becomes a center of medical knowledge from a number of traditions: Persian, Alexandrian, Greek, Jewish, Hindu, and Chinese.
— 526: Benedict of Nursia (c. 480–c. 530) founds his monastery at Monte Cassino. His Rule emphasizes hospitality to the stranger.
— 541–749: Repeated waves of bubonic plague strike and devastate the Eastern empire.
— 549–580: First hospitals founded in France and Spain.
— 7th century: Isidore of Seville (c. 560–636) publishes Etymologiae, an encyclopedia of classical learning that includes a lengthy guide to Greek medicine.
— 7th century: The Venerable Bede (c. 672–735) collects and publishes medical writings.
— 9th century: Medical School at Salerno founded.
— 937: First hospital built in England.
— 9th–10th centuries: Benedictine monks in the West preserve ancient medical science during a time of unrest as they copy medical manuscripts, maintain herb gardens, and experiment with elixirs to cure diseases. Hospitals enter period of decline, lack of funds, and in some cases destruction, but many bishops and clergy still work to do what they can for the poor.
— 9th–10th centuries: Jerusalem Hospital founded by a community of Augustinians.
— 1099: First Crusade arrives in Jerusalem and new building erected for the Jerusalem Hospital, funded by donations of grateful and wealthy crusaders.
— By 11th century: a succession of Benedictine monks at the Medical School at Salerno, in cooperation with Jewish translators, have translated many Greek and Arabic medical texts into Latin, re-introducing them to the West. The most popular translated texts are known as the Articella (Little Art of Medicine) and include Hippocrates and Galen.
— 12th century: Religious orders devoted to the care of the sick begin to arise, most of them following the Rule of St. Augustine (based on writings of St. Augustine of Hippo [354–430] although not traceable directly to him).
— 12th century: Observers describe the hospital in Jerusalem as capable of
housing around 1,000 patients in as many as 11 wards. Muslim and Jewish patients are welcome too, and are fed chicken in place of pork.
— Early 12th century: Franciscan order of mendicant (“begging&rdquo brothers arises from the life and work of Francis of Assisi (1182–1226). ranciscans and other similar orders (Dominicans, Carmelites) originally own no property, and emphasize works of mercy and identification with the poor.
— 1113: Brothers of Hospital of St. John, later Knights Hospitaller, established as first international religious order.
— 12th century: Master Raymond du Puy (1120–1160) instructs the Knights Hospitaller on “How our Lords the Sick should be received and served.”
— 12th century: Full development of the doctrine of purgatory out of earlier ideas of the necessity of doing penance for sins. This provides further impetus for Christian almsgiving. — 1136: Construction begins on the Pantokrator, the greatest of Byzantine hospitals.
— c. 1145–early 13th century: Augustinian brothers from Montpellier in France organize hospitals dedicated to the Holy Spirit, first in France and then (1204) in Rome. The order and the hospitals founded by them spread widely throughout Europe.
— 1157: Cistercians (a reform movement of Benedictines) forbid monk physicians to treat laypeople. (This is in part to prevent them from developing lucrative and distracting private businesses.)
— 1187: Saladin captures Jerusalem and forces Knights Hospitaller to leave. They found other hospitals in the Holy Land.
— 1191: Teutonic Order founded in the Holy Land as a brotherhood devoted to the service of the sick; later moves its base of operations to Germany.
— 12th–13th century: The rise of the mendicants and devotion to the Passion radically increases the number of hospitals founded in Western Europe. Hundreds of leprosaria are also built to deal with an epidemic of leprosy. — Early 13th century: Pope Innocent III (1160–1216, made pope 1198) promotes the new outpouring of piety among the mendicant orders.
— 1207: Innocent III adds “burying the dead” to the six works of mercy noted in Matthew 25 (feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, giving shelter to strangers, clothing the naked, visiting the sick, visiting the imprisoned); these became known as the Seven Comfortable Works.
— 13th century: Elizabeth of Hungary (1207–1231) becomes a symbol of Christian charity; widowed at 20, she gives her wealth to the poor and builds hospitals.
— 13th century: Regimen sanitatis salernitatum is compiled, one of the most famous of medieval “regimens”; it supposedly originates at the Medical School at Salerno.
— 13th century: Earliest known contracts for public physicians (employed by towns and cities) in Italy. This system spreads throughout Europe by the early 16th century.
— 13th–16th centuries: Over 150 hospitals founded in Germany.
— 14th century: Black Death (probably bubonic plague) ravages Europe. St. Roche (1295?–1370) becomes known for his miraculous cures of many plague
sufferers.
— 14th–15th centuries: Guilds of surgeons, barbers, and physicians
begin to develop in Europe.
— 16th century: Order of St. John of God begins building hospitals for the insane in Spain.
"As to the gods, I have no means of knowing either that they exist or do not exist. For many are the obstacles that impede knowledge, both the obscurity of the question and the shortness of human life." Protagoras
I can only put my signature in solidarity with this saying - Alexandre Fedorovski, Doctor of Philosophy in Philosophy.
As for what you wrote here, I will add the following:
Do not turn into a "player" of those dogmas that are weekly driven into your head in churches and corrupt media. I understand that if you take away your faith in the fact that you belong to the “chosen” community, your life will become very unattractive ...
This is the typical psychology of those who have not achieved anything in life by themselves.
And now a purely theological conclusion:
IF God is REALLY universal and the only one in the Universe (do not forget about the Prince of the Darkness
!!! ), it doesn’t matter how representatives of other faiths call him or imagine t him in their minds - you cannot either prove your own image or refute the ideas of others.And ... is not Christianity the faith of Love ??? Is it Love - to hate the OTHERS, different from you ???! Is THAT what a pastor teaches you ???
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Christianity didn't make a dent. Hitler was greatly influenced by Charles Darwin and his cousin Frances Galton's Eugenics in providing them a false scientific basis for genocide and claiming Aryan superiority. It led to the rise of Nazism and its special brand of socialism along with antisemitism because Hitler didn't like the rich Jews. Darwin supported his cousin's work and was a racist despite atheist and evolutionists claims to the contrary. It's filthy lies to support their religious beliefs of no God or gods.
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It was Hitler's mother who wanted him to be Catholic, but her son rebelled like the atheists of today and he ended up with some very twisted ideas. I would say it was Hitler's politics that influenced him more and finally he got what he wanted to satiate his warped hatred of Jews and others with Darwinism and Eugenics. With the pseudoscientific racism of Darwin and his racist cousin, Hitler was able to claim scientific superiority of the white race. Hitler originally wrote his socialist manifesto in order to form his own political movement separate from the communists. He hated the communists, too. There really was a screw loose in the man because his main motivation was hate leading to his twisted ideology and science.
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There is a theory I heard as to why Christianity grew into the religion it is today. Early Christians turned to each other and to God for help while their pagan neighbors sacrificed to their gods for help. Didn't matter if God existed or not, the Christian community as a whole would have been generally better off and a beacon to the envious pagans.In the midst of the plague, I thought this thread would lift a few spirits in terms of how Christ has helped change the world when it comes to health care.
Christian History Timeline: Healthcare and Hospitals in the Mission of the Church | Christian History Magazine
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— Early 2nd century: Christians by this time have developed church infrastructure to assist the sick. This assistance is usually led by deacons and deaconesses and focuses on palliative care.
— Late 2nd century: Galen (c. 131–201) practices as a physician and publishes the medical treatises that will form the basis of Western medicine for centuries.
— 250–51: Devastating plague spreads throughout the Western Roman Empire, causing the church to expand its program of benevolence. The church at Rome is said to minister to 1,500 widows and others in need, spending annually an estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 sesterces.
— 4th century: Bishops in the eastern half of the empire begin to establish xenodocheia as Christian welfare institutions for the sick and poor.
— 330: Basil of Caesarea (c. 330–379) is born into a Christian family from Cappadocia in Asia Minor (central Turkey).
—360: Basil founds his hospital in Cappadocia; he is ordained bishop in 370.
— The decades after 370: In Constantinople, Alexandria, and throughout the Eastern empire, many hospitals are founded on the example of Basil’s great “Basileum.”
— Late 4th century: John Chrysostom (c. 349–407) tells us that the Great Church in Antioch, Syria, supported 3,000 widows and unmarried women, as well as the sick, the poor, and travelers.
— Late 4th century: Fabiola (d. 399?) establishes first Roman hospitals.
— 540: The Nestorians, having been forced to flee after the Council of Ephesus (431) declared them heretics, found a hospital at Gondishapur on the Persian Gulf which becomes a center of medical knowledge from a number of traditions: Persian, Alexandrian, Greek, Jewish, Hindu, and Chinese.
— 526: Benedict of Nursia (c. 480–c. 530) founds his monastery at Monte Cassino. His Rule emphasizes hospitality to the stranger.
— 541–749: Repeated waves of bubonic plague strike and devastate the Eastern empire.
— 549–580: First hospitals founded in France and Spain.
— 7th century: Isidore of Seville (c. 560–636) publishes Etymologiae, an encyclopedia of classical learning that includes a lengthy guide to Greek medicine.
— 7th century: The Venerable Bede (c. 672–735) collects and publishes medical writings.
— 9th century: Medical School at Salerno founded.
— 937: First hospital built in England.
— 9th–10th centuries: Benedictine monks in the West preserve ancient medical science during a time of unrest as they copy medical manuscripts, maintain herb gardens, and experiment with elixirs to cure diseases. Hospitals enter period of decline, lack of funds, and in some cases destruction, but many bishops and clergy still work to do what they can for the poor.
— 9th–10th centuries: Jerusalem Hospital founded by a community of Augustinians.
— 1099: First Crusade arrives in Jerusalem and new building erected for the Jerusalem Hospital, funded by donations of grateful and wealthy crusaders.
— By 11th century: a succession of Benedictine monks at the Medical School at Salerno, in cooperation with Jewish translators, have translated many Greek and Arabic medical texts into Latin, re-introducing them to the West. The most popular translated texts are known as the Articella (Little Art of Medicine) and include Hippocrates and Galen.
— 12th century: Religious orders devoted to the care of the sick begin to arise, most of them following the Rule of St. Augustine (based on writings of St. Augustine of Hippo [354–430] although not traceable directly to him).
— 12th century: Observers describe the hospital in Jerusalem as capable of
housing around 1,000 patients in as many as 11 wards. Muslim and Jewish patients are welcome too, and are fed chicken in place of pork.
— Early 12th century: Franciscan order of mendicant (“begging&rdquo brothers arises from the life and work of Francis of Assisi (1182–1226). ranciscans and other similar orders (Dominicans, Carmelites) originally own no property, and emphasize works of mercy and identification with the poor.
— 1113: Brothers of Hospital of St. John, later Knights Hospitaller, established as first international religious order.
— 12th century: Master Raymond du Puy (1120–1160) instructs the Knights Hospitaller on “How our Lords the Sick should be received and served.”
— 12th century: Full development of the doctrine of purgatory out of earlier ideas of the necessity of doing penance for sins. This provides further impetus for Christian almsgiving. — 1136: Construction begins on the Pantokrator, the greatest of Byzantine hospitals.
— c. 1145–early 13th century: Augustinian brothers from Montpellier in France organize hospitals dedicated to the Holy Spirit, first in France and then (1204) in Rome. The order and the hospitals founded by them spread widely throughout Europe.
— 1157: Cistercians (a reform movement of Benedictines) forbid monk physicians to treat laypeople. (This is in part to prevent them from developing lucrative and distracting private businesses.)
— 1187: Saladin captures Jerusalem and forces Knights Hospitaller to leave. They found other hospitals in the Holy Land.
— 1191: Teutonic Order founded in the Holy Land as a brotherhood devoted to the service of the sick; later moves its base of operations to Germany.
— 12th–13th century: The rise of the mendicants and devotion to the Passion radically increases the number of hospitals founded in Western Europe. Hundreds of leprosaria are also built to deal with an epidemic of leprosy. — Early 13th century: Pope Innocent III (1160–1216, made pope 1198) promotes the new outpouring of piety among the mendicant orders.
— 1207: Innocent III adds “burying the dead” to the six works of mercy noted in Matthew 25 (feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, giving shelter to strangers, clothing the naked, visiting the sick, visiting the imprisoned); these became known as the Seven Comfortable Works.
— 13th century: Elizabeth of Hungary (1207–1231) becomes a symbol of Christian charity; widowed at 20, she gives her wealth to the poor and builds hospitals.
— 13th century: Regimen sanitatis salernitatum is compiled, one of the most famous of medieval “regimens”; it supposedly originates at the Medical School at Salerno.
— 13th century: Earliest known contracts for public physicians (employed by towns and cities) in Italy. This system spreads throughout Europe by the early 16th century.
— 13th–16th centuries: Over 150 hospitals founded in Germany.
— 14th century: Black Death (probably bubonic plague) ravages Europe. St. Roche (1295?–1370) becomes known for his miraculous cures of many plague
sufferers.
— 14th–15th centuries: Guilds of surgeons, barbers, and physicians
begin to develop in Europe.
— 16th century: Order of St. John of God begins building hospitals for the insane in Spain.
"As to the gods, I have no means of knowing either that they exist or do not exist. For many are the obstacles that impede knowledge, both the obscurity of the question and the shortness of human life." Protagoras
I can only put my signature in solidarity with this saying - Alexandre Fedorovski, Doctor of Philosophy in Philosophy.
As for what you wrote here, I will add the following:
Do not turn into a "player" of those dogmas that are weekly driven into your head in churches and corrupt media. I understand that if you take away your faith in the fact that you belong to the “chosen” community, your life will become very unattractive ...
This is the typical psychology of those who have not achieved anything in life by themselves.
And now a purely theological conclusion:
IF God is REALLY universal and the only one in the Universe (do not forget about the Prince of the Darkness
And ... is not Christianity the faith of Love ??? Is it Love - to hate the OTHERS, different from you ???! Is THAT what a pastor teaches you ???
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There is a theory I heard as to why Christianity grew into the religion it is today. Early Christians turned to each other and to God for help while their pagan neighbors sacrificed to their gods for help. Didn't matter if God existed or not, the Christian community as a whole would have been generally better off and a beacon to the envious pagans.In the midst of the plague, I thought this thread would lift a few spirits in terms of how Christ has helped change the world when it comes to health care.
Christian History Timeline: Healthcare and Hospitals in the Mission of the Church | Christian History Magazine
Christian History Institute (CHI) provides church history resources and self-study material and publishes the quarterly Christian History Magazine. Our aim is to make Christian history enjoyable and applicable to the widest possible audience.
— Early 2nd century: Christians by this time have developed church infrastructure to assist the sick. This assistance is usually led by deacons and deaconesses and focuses on palliative care.
— Late 2nd century: Galen (c. 131–201) practices as a physician and publishes the medical treatises that will form the basis of Western medicine for centuries.
— 250–51: Devastating plague spreads throughout the Western Roman Empire, causing the church to expand its program of benevolence. The church at Rome is said to minister to 1,500 widows and others in need, spending annually an estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 sesterces.
— 4th century: Bishops in the eastern half of the empire begin to establish xenodocheia as Christian welfare institutions for the sick and poor.
— 330: Basil of Caesarea (c. 330–379) is born into a Christian family from Cappadocia in Asia Minor (central Turkey).
—360: Basil founds his hospital in Cappadocia; he is ordained bishop in 370.
— The decades after 370: In Constantinople, Alexandria, and throughout the Eastern empire, many hospitals are founded on the example of Basil’s great “Basileum.”
— Late 4th century: John Chrysostom (c. 349–407) tells us that the Great Church in Antioch, Syria, supported 3,000 widows and unmarried women, as well as the sick, the poor, and travelers.
— Late 4th century: Fabiola (d. 399?) establishes first Roman hospitals.
— 540: The Nestorians, having been forced to flee after the Council of Ephesus (431) declared them heretics, found a hospital at Gondishapur on the Persian Gulf which becomes a center of medical knowledge from a number of traditions: Persian, Alexandrian, Greek, Jewish, Hindu, and Chinese.
— 526: Benedict of Nursia (c. 480–c. 530) founds his monastery at Monte Cassino. His Rule emphasizes hospitality to the stranger.
— 541–749: Repeated waves of bubonic plague strike and devastate the Eastern empire.
— 549–580: First hospitals founded in France and Spain.
— 7th century: Isidore of Seville (c. 560–636) publishes Etymologiae, an encyclopedia of classical learning that includes a lengthy guide to Greek medicine.
— 7th century: The Venerable Bede (c. 672–735) collects and publishes medical writings.
— 9th century: Medical School at Salerno founded.
— 937: First hospital built in England.
— 9th–10th centuries: Benedictine monks in the West preserve ancient medical science during a time of unrest as they copy medical manuscripts, maintain herb gardens, and experiment with elixirs to cure diseases. Hospitals enter period of decline, lack of funds, and in some cases destruction, but many bishops and clergy still work to do what they can for the poor.
— 9th–10th centuries: Jerusalem Hospital founded by a community of Augustinians.
— 1099: First Crusade arrives in Jerusalem and new building erected for the Jerusalem Hospital, funded by donations of grateful and wealthy crusaders.
— By 11th century: a succession of Benedictine monks at the Medical School at Salerno, in cooperation with Jewish translators, have translated many Greek and Arabic medical texts into Latin, re-introducing them to the West. The most popular translated texts are known as the Articella (Little Art of Medicine) and include Hippocrates and Galen.
— 12th century: Religious orders devoted to the care of the sick begin to arise, most of them following the Rule of St. Augustine (based on writings of St. Augustine of Hippo [354–430] although not traceable directly to him).
— 12th century: Observers describe the hospital in Jerusalem as capable of
housing around 1,000 patients in as many as 11 wards. Muslim and Jewish patients are welcome too, and are fed chicken in place of pork.
— Early 12th century: Franciscan order of mendicant (“begging&rdquo brothers arises from the life and work of Francis of Assisi (1182–1226). ranciscans and other similar orders (Dominicans, Carmelites) originally own no property, and emphasize works of mercy and identification with the poor.
— 1113: Brothers of Hospital of St. John, later Knights Hospitaller, established as first international religious order.
— 12th century: Master Raymond du Puy (1120–1160) instructs the Knights Hospitaller on “How our Lords the Sick should be received and served.”
— 12th century: Full development of the doctrine of purgatory out of earlier ideas of the necessity of doing penance for sins. This provides further impetus for Christian almsgiving. — 1136: Construction begins on the Pantokrator, the greatest of Byzantine hospitals.
— c. 1145–early 13th century: Augustinian brothers from Montpellier in France organize hospitals dedicated to the Holy Spirit, first in France and then (1204) in Rome. The order and the hospitals founded by them spread widely throughout Europe.
— 1157: Cistercians (a reform movement of Benedictines) forbid monk physicians to treat laypeople. (This is in part to prevent them from developing lucrative and distracting private businesses.)
— 1187: Saladin captures Jerusalem and forces Knights Hospitaller to leave. They found other hospitals in the Holy Land.
— 1191: Teutonic Order founded in the Holy Land as a brotherhood devoted to the service of the sick; later moves its base of operations to Germany.
— 12th–13th century: The rise of the mendicants and devotion to the Passion radically increases the number of hospitals founded in Western Europe. Hundreds of leprosaria are also built to deal with an epidemic of leprosy. — Early 13th century: Pope Innocent III (1160–1216, made pope 1198) promotes the new outpouring of piety among the mendicant orders.
— 1207: Innocent III adds “burying the dead” to the six works of mercy noted in Matthew 25 (feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, giving shelter to strangers, clothing the naked, visiting the sick, visiting the imprisoned); these became known as the Seven Comfortable Works.
— 13th century: Elizabeth of Hungary (1207–1231) becomes a symbol of Christian charity; widowed at 20, she gives her wealth to the poor and builds hospitals.
— 13th century: Regimen sanitatis salernitatum is compiled, one of the most famous of medieval “regimens”; it supposedly originates at the Medical School at Salerno.
— 13th century: Earliest known contracts for public physicians (employed by towns and cities) in Italy. This system spreads throughout Europe by the early 16th century.
— 13th–16th centuries: Over 150 hospitals founded in Germany.
— 14th century: Black Death (probably bubonic plague) ravages Europe. St. Roche (1295?–1370) becomes known for his miraculous cures of many plague
sufferers.
— 14th–15th centuries: Guilds of surgeons, barbers, and physicians
begin to develop in Europe.
— 16th century: Order of St. John of God begins building hospitals for the insane in Spain.
"As to the gods, I have no means of knowing either that they exist or do not exist. For many are the obstacles that impede knowledge, both the obscurity of the question and the shortness of human life." Protagoras
I can only put my signature in solidarity with this saying - Alexandre Fedorovski, Doctor of Philosophy in Philosophy.
As for what you wrote here, I will add the following:
Do not turn into a "player" of those dogmas that are weekly driven into your head in churches and corrupt media. I understand that if you take away your faith in the fact that you belong to the “chosen” community, your life will become very unattractive ...
This is the typical psychology of those who have not achieved anything in life by themselves.
And now a purely theological conclusion:
IF God is REALLY universal and the only one in the Universe (do not forget about the Prince of the Darkness
And ... is not Christianity the faith of Love ??? Is it Love - to hate the OTHERS, different from you ???! Is THAT what a pastor teaches you ???
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Winston Churchill once said, "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.”
The truth that is revealed to me through the teachings of Christ I have also felt reading from men like Socrates, someone who lived long before Christ walked the earth.
It is odd that Socrates sounds eerily Christ like. Here are some quotes from Socrates.
"One should never do wrong in return, nor mistreat any man, no matter how one has been mistreated by him"
"I was afraid that by observing objects with my eyes and trying to comprehend them with each of my other senses I might blind my soul altogether"
"The mind is the pilot to the soul"
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light"
"I desire only to now the truth, and to live as well as I can and, to the utmost of my power, I exhort all other men to do the same. I exhort you also to take part in the great combat, which is the combat of life, and greater than every other earthly conflict"
And just like Jesus who gave his life for the truth, Socrates did the same. In fact, like Jesus Socrates seemed to know that someday he would die for seeking the truth which he did.
"A man who really fights for justice must lead a private life, not a public life, if he is to survive for even a short time"
Both Christ and Socrates gave their life for the truth, very rare indeed.
As for "proving" God exists, proving God exists does nothing for man when such men have no interest in the truth. Just look at Adam and Eve in the Bible who walked and talked directly with God. They lost faith anyway, or the Hebrew nation that witness the miracles of the Red Sea being parted and then saw manna come down from heaven for them to eat. They lost faith anyway and built a golden calf to worship in his stead.
And so it goes, God has no interest in proving he exists to anyone because history shows us that this doesn't do God or man any good, rather, he is merely looking for those who are more interested in truth.
Perhaps this is why Jesus is the ONLY figure in human history that all religions believe was a man of God.
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Christianity did not make a dent? A dent in what exactly?
Jesus Christ has been the most influential figure in human history. What are you going on about?
Hitler? Hitler was a cookie cutter dictator who was a drug addict and not that bright to boot.
As for mass genocide, that is common place as well throughout human history. It's in our DNA.
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In regards to Hitler. Today's atheists want to put the blame of the Holocaust on Christianity, or Catholicism in this case, and Hitler. His mother was a practicing Catholic, but Hitler rebelled against the religion and didn't go back. Instead, he developed his political plan and hatred when he was young. Yet, he didn't have the means until Darwinism came along. By then, it had influenced social Darwinism and the survival of the fittest. Natural selection was never about being the fittest. It was about the survival in response to a change in the environment. The survival of the fittest is another idea Darwin took from his new friend Herbert Spencer, but it was wrong.
My post isn't about Jesus, but Darwin, Galton, and how they influenced Hitler. They gave Hitler the pseudoscientific racism that he craved in order to propagate his Aryan superiority ideas. Nazism became a quest to build the master race and a way to conduct devious experiments on the hated Jews and others. This included women and children, too. Hitler had become so very twisted once he realized he was of the master race.
Today's atheists try to hide and shield Darwin from all of the horrors, cruel, and inhuman treatment by Hitler's head physician in the camps, Josef Mengele. In the way Darwin's father supported his son in his pseudoscientific racist research, Darwin also supported his cousin, Frances Galton, with his developing Eugenics. This influenced the racists in America, too, with the rise of genocide and Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood still operates to this day in the poor black and Hispanic neighborhoods. Today's atheists conveniently deny any connection with Galton and Darwin and treat Darwin like he was a hero with Darwin Day and the like. Believing in lies and changing history comes easy for them by blaming Christians and Christianity for all the evils throughout history.
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Protagoras may have been able to figure out geometry and philosophy, but he could figure out that the supernatural exists with the natural in front of his nose. Only life can beget life and this requires God's breath and the supernatural. Let's not think of these people as ancient peoples. They were quite sophisticated in the world and universe for their times.
I have no idea if you were responding to what I wrote but if you were you misinterpreted it. I was only speaking of the positive historical and social results of early Christianity. I was not attempting any theological message.There is a theory I heard as to why Christianity grew into the religion it is today. Early Christians turned to each other and to God for help while their pagan neighbors sacrificed to their gods for help. Didn't matter if God existed or not, the Christian community as a whole would have been generally better off and a beacon to the envious pagans.In the midst of the plague, I thought this thread would lift a few spirits in terms of how Christ has helped change the world when it comes to health care.
Christian History Timeline: Healthcare and Hospitals in the Mission of the Church | Christian History Magazine
Christian History Institute (CHI) provides church history resources and self-study material and publishes the quarterly Christian History Magazine. Our aim is to make Christian history enjoyable and applicable to the widest possible audience.
— Early 2nd century: Christians by this time have developed church infrastructure to assist the sick. This assistance is usually led by deacons and deaconesses and focuses on palliative care.
— Late 2nd century: Galen (c. 131–201) practices as a physician and publishes the medical treatises that will form the basis of Western medicine for centuries.
— 250–51: Devastating plague spreads throughout the Western Roman Empire, causing the church to expand its program of benevolence. The church at Rome is said to minister to 1,500 widows and others in need, spending annually an estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 sesterces.
— 4th century: Bishops in the eastern half of the empire begin to establish xenodocheia as Christian welfare institutions for the sick and poor.
— 330: Basil of Caesarea (c. 330–379) is born into a Christian family from Cappadocia in Asia Minor (central Turkey).
—360: Basil founds his hospital in Cappadocia; he is ordained bishop in 370.
— The decades after 370: In Constantinople, Alexandria, and throughout the Eastern empire, many hospitals are founded on the example of Basil’s great “Basileum.”
— Late 4th century: John Chrysostom (c. 349–407) tells us that the Great Church in Antioch, Syria, supported 3,000 widows and unmarried women, as well as the sick, the poor, and travelers.
— Late 4th century: Fabiola (d. 399?) establishes first Roman hospitals.
— 540: The Nestorians, having been forced to flee after the Council of Ephesus (431) declared them heretics, found a hospital at Gondishapur on the Persian Gulf which becomes a center of medical knowledge from a number of traditions: Persian, Alexandrian, Greek, Jewish, Hindu, and Chinese.
— 526: Benedict of Nursia (c. 480–c. 530) founds his monastery at Monte Cassino. His Rule emphasizes hospitality to the stranger.
— 541–749: Repeated waves of bubonic plague strike and devastate the Eastern empire.
— 549–580: First hospitals founded in France and Spain.
— 7th century: Isidore of Seville (c. 560–636) publishes Etymologiae, an encyclopedia of classical learning that includes a lengthy guide to Greek medicine.
— 7th century: The Venerable Bede (c. 672–735) collects and publishes medical writings.
— 9th century: Medical School at Salerno founded.
— 937: First hospital built in England.
— 9th–10th centuries: Benedictine monks in the West preserve ancient medical science during a time of unrest as they copy medical manuscripts, maintain herb gardens, and experiment with elixirs to cure diseases. Hospitals enter period of decline, lack of funds, and in some cases destruction, but many bishops and clergy still work to do what they can for the poor.
— 9th–10th centuries: Jerusalem Hospital founded by a community of Augustinians.
— 1099: First Crusade arrives in Jerusalem and new building erected for the Jerusalem Hospital, funded by donations of grateful and wealthy crusaders.
— By 11th century: a succession of Benedictine monks at the Medical School at Salerno, in cooperation with Jewish translators, have translated many Greek and Arabic medical texts into Latin, re-introducing them to the West. The most popular translated texts are known as the Articella (Little Art of Medicine) and include Hippocrates and Galen.
— 12th century: Religious orders devoted to the care of the sick begin to arise, most of them following the Rule of St. Augustine (based on writings of St. Augustine of Hippo [354–430] although not traceable directly to him).
— 12th century: Observers describe the hospital in Jerusalem as capable of
housing around 1,000 patients in as many as 11 wards. Muslim and Jewish patients are welcome too, and are fed chicken in place of pork.
— Early 12th century: Franciscan order of mendicant (“begging&rdquo brothers arises from the life and work of Francis of Assisi (1182–1226). ranciscans and other similar orders (Dominicans, Carmelites) originally own no property, and emphasize works of mercy and identification with the poor.
— 1113: Brothers of Hospital of St. John, later Knights Hospitaller, established as first international religious order.
— 12th century: Master Raymond du Puy (1120–1160) instructs the Knights Hospitaller on “How our Lords the Sick should be received and served.”
— 12th century: Full development of the doctrine of purgatory out of earlier ideas of the necessity of doing penance for sins. This provides further impetus for Christian almsgiving. — 1136: Construction begins on the Pantokrator, the greatest of Byzantine hospitals.
— c. 1145–early 13th century: Augustinian brothers from Montpellier in France organize hospitals dedicated to the Holy Spirit, first in France and then (1204) in Rome. The order and the hospitals founded by them spread widely throughout Europe.
— 1157: Cistercians (a reform movement of Benedictines) forbid monk physicians to treat laypeople. (This is in part to prevent them from developing lucrative and distracting private businesses.)
— 1187: Saladin captures Jerusalem and forces Knights Hospitaller to leave. They found other hospitals in the Holy Land.
— 1191: Teutonic Order founded in the Holy Land as a brotherhood devoted to the service of the sick; later moves its base of operations to Germany.
— 12th–13th century: The rise of the mendicants and devotion to the Passion radically increases the number of hospitals founded in Western Europe. Hundreds of leprosaria are also built to deal with an epidemic of leprosy. — Early 13th century: Pope Innocent III (1160–1216, made pope 1198) promotes the new outpouring of piety among the mendicant orders.
— 1207: Innocent III adds “burying the dead” to the six works of mercy noted in Matthew 25 (feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, giving shelter to strangers, clothing the naked, visiting the sick, visiting the imprisoned); these became known as the Seven Comfortable Works.
— 13th century: Elizabeth of Hungary (1207–1231) becomes a symbol of Christian charity; widowed at 20, she gives her wealth to the poor and builds hospitals.
— 13th century: Regimen sanitatis salernitatum is compiled, one of the most famous of medieval “regimens”; it supposedly originates at the Medical School at Salerno.
— 13th century: Earliest known contracts for public physicians (employed by towns and cities) in Italy. This system spreads throughout Europe by the early 16th century.
— 13th–16th centuries: Over 150 hospitals founded in Germany.
— 14th century: Black Death (probably bubonic plague) ravages Europe. St. Roche (1295?–1370) becomes known for his miraculous cures of many plague
sufferers.
— 14th–15th centuries: Guilds of surgeons, barbers, and physicians
begin to develop in Europe.
— 16th century: Order of St. John of God begins building hospitals for the insane in Spain.
"As to the gods, I have no means of knowing either that they exist or do not exist. For many are the obstacles that impede knowledge, both the obscurity of the question and the shortness of human life." Protagoras
I can only put my signature in solidarity with this saying - Alexandre Fedorovski, Doctor of Philosophy in Philosophy.
As for what you wrote here, I will add the following:
Do not turn into a "player" of those dogmas that are weekly driven into your head in churches and corrupt media. I understand that if you take away your faith in the fact that you belong to the “chosen” community, your life will become very unattractive ...
This is the typical psychology of those who have not achieved anything in life by themselves.
And now a purely theological conclusion:
IF God is REALLY universal and the only one in the Universe (do not forget about the Prince of the Darkness
And ... is not Christianity the faith of Love ??? Is it Love - to hate the OTHERS, different from you ???! Is THAT what a pastor teaches you ???
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This seems a bold statement and totally with a basis. Jews don't consider him a prophet. I doubt if Hindus or Buddhists do either (just a guess, I don't know much about either). Aside from Christians, it seems only Muslims revere him, just not so much as Muhammad.
Hitler was the heir to the anti-Semitism that developed early in Christianity so at least some of the blame is earned.
Every conquered people became slaves. Outside of the Bible there is no Egyptian records of Jewish slaves. There is a record of Jewish mercenaries hired by Egypt.Hitler was a big supporter of the anti-semitism invented by the early Christian church. Christianity has to take a large share of blame for the holocaust.Why stop there? Why not mention the Catholic church persecuting Jews for centuries, making them wear a star of David, kicking them out of entire countries, putting them in ghettos, and rounding them all up and killing them in mass? Essentially, everything that was done to the Jews in the Holocaust was done centuries, prior, only it was done more efficiently. In fact, Hitler claimed publically to be a Christian as well.In the midst of the plague, I thought this thread would lift a few spirits in terms of how Christ has helped change the world when it comes to health care.
Christian History Timeline: Healthcare and Hospitals in the Mission of the Church | Christian History Magazine
Christian History Institute (CHI) provides church history resources and self-study material and publishes the quarterly Christian History Magazine. Our aim is to make Christian history enjoyable and applicable to the widest possible audience.
— Early 2nd century: Christians by this time have developed church infrastructure to assist the sick. This assistance is usually led by deacons and deaconesses and focuses on palliative care.
— Late 2nd century: Galen (c. 131–201) practices as a physician and publishes the medical treatises that will form the basis of Western medicine for centuries.
— 250–51: Devastating plague spreads throughout the Western Roman Empire, causing the church to expand its program of benevolence. The church at Rome is said to minister to 1,500 widows and others in need, spending annually an estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 sesterces.
— 4th century: Bishops in the eastern half of the empire begin to establish xenodocheia as Christian welfare institutions for the sick and poor.
— 330: Basil of Caesarea (c. 330–379) is born into a Christian family from Cappadocia in Asia Minor (central Turkey).
—360: Basil founds his hospital in Cappadocia; he is ordained bishop in 370.
— The decades after 370: In Constantinople, Alexandria, and throughout the Eastern empire, many hospitals are founded on the example of Basil’s great “Basileum.”
— Late 4th century: John Chrysostom (c. 349–407) tells us that the Great Church in Antioch, Syria, supported 3,000 widows and unmarried women, as well as the sick, the poor, and travelers.
— Late 4th century: Fabiola (d. 399?) establishes first Roman hospitals.
— 540: The Nestorians, having been forced to flee after the Council of Ephesus (431) declared them heretics, found a hospital at Gondishapur on the Persian Gulf which becomes a center of medical knowledge from a number of traditions: Persian, Alexandrian, Greek, Jewish, Hindu, and Chinese.
— 526: Benedict of Nursia (c. 480–c. 530) founds his monastery at Monte Cassino. His Rule emphasizes hospitality to the stranger.
— 541–749: Repeated waves of bubonic plague strike and devastate the Eastern empire.
— 549–580: First hospitals founded in France and Spain.
— 7th century: Isidore of Seville (c. 560–636) publishes Etymologiae, an encyclopedia of classical learning that includes a lengthy guide to Greek medicine.
— 7th century: The Venerable Bede (c. 672–735) collects and publishes medical writings.
— 9th century: Medical School at Salerno founded.
— 937: First hospital built in England.
— 9th–10th centuries: Benedictine monks in the West preserve ancient medical science during a time of unrest as they copy medical manuscripts, maintain herb gardens, and experiment with elixirs to cure diseases. Hospitals enter period of decline, lack of funds, and in some cases destruction, but many bishops and clergy still work to do what they can for the poor.
— 9th–10th centuries: Jerusalem Hospital founded by a community of Augustinians.
— 1099: First Crusade arrives in Jerusalem and new building erected for the Jerusalem Hospital, funded by donations of grateful and wealthy crusaders.
— By 11th century: a succession of Benedictine monks at the Medical School at Salerno, in cooperation with Jewish translators, have translated many Greek and Arabic medical texts into Latin, re-introducing them to the West. The most popular translated texts are known as the Articella (Little Art of Medicine) and include Hippocrates and Galen.
— 12th century: Religious orders devoted to the care of the sick begin to arise, most of them following the Rule of St. Augustine (based on writings of St. Augustine of Hippo [354–430] although not traceable directly to him).
— 12th century: Observers describe the hospital in Jerusalem as capable of
housing around 1,000 patients in as many as 11 wards. Muslim and Jewish patients are welcome too, and are fed chicken in place of pork.
— Early 12th century: Franciscan order of mendicant (“begging&rdquo brothers arises from the life and work of Francis of Assisi (1182–1226). ranciscans and other similar orders (Dominicans, Carmelites) originally own no property, and emphasize works of mercy and identification with the poor.
— 1113: Brothers of Hospital of St. John, later Knights Hospitaller, established as first international religious order.
— 12th century: Master Raymond du Puy (1120–1160) instructs the Knights Hospitaller on “How our Lords the Sick should be received and served.”
— 12th century: Full development of the doctrine of purgatory out of earlier ideas of the necessity of doing penance for sins. This provides further impetus for Christian almsgiving. — 1136: Construction begins on the Pantokrator, the greatest of Byzantine hospitals.
— c. 1145–early 13th century: Augustinian brothers from Montpellier in France organize hospitals dedicated to the Holy Spirit, first in France and then (1204) in Rome. The order and the hospitals founded by them spread widely throughout Europe.
— 1157: Cistercians (a reform movement of Benedictines) forbid monk physicians to treat laypeople. (This is in part to prevent them from developing lucrative and distracting private businesses.)
— 1187: Saladin captures Jerusalem and forces Knights Hospitaller to leave. They found other hospitals in the Holy Land.
— 1191: Teutonic Order founded in the Holy Land as a brotherhood devoted to the service of the sick; later moves its base of operations to Germany.
— 12th–13th century: The rise of the mendicants and devotion to the Passion radically increases the number of hospitals founded in Western Europe. Hundreds of leprosaria are also built to deal with an epidemic of leprosy. — Early 13th century: Pope Innocent III (1160–1216, made pope 1198) promotes the new outpouring of piety among the mendicant orders.
— 1207: Innocent III adds “burying the dead” to the six works of mercy noted in Matthew 25 (feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, giving shelter to strangers, clothing the naked, visiting the sick, visiting the imprisoned); these became known as the Seven Comfortable Works.
— 13th century: Elizabeth of Hungary (1207–1231) becomes a symbol of Christian charity; widowed at 20, she gives her wealth to the poor and builds hospitals.
— 13th century: Regimen sanitatis salernitatum is compiled, one of the most famous of medieval “regimens”; it supposedly originates at the Medical School at Salerno.
— 13th century: Earliest known contracts for public physicians (employed by towns and cities) in Italy. This system spreads throughout Europe by the early 16th century.
— 13th–16th centuries: Over 150 hospitals founded in Germany.
— 14th century: Black Death (probably bubonic plague) ravages Europe. St. Roche (1295?–1370) becomes known for his miraculous cures of many plague
sufferers.
— 14th–15th centuries: Guilds of surgeons, barbers, and physicians
begin to develop in Europe.
— 16th century: Order of St. John of God begins building hospitals for the insane in Spain.
What about poor Native Americans, hunted by Christians with dogs fed with human meat?
But whether it is hunting down Jews or Indians or infidels or Stalin, who was an avowed atheist, hunting down political opponents and people of faith, the underlying commonality of all of them is the power of the state.
The state, by far, is the one entity in the history of humanity that has murdered more people than any other human institution.
Christ tried to warn us.
John 18 New International Version (NIV)Jesus Arrested
Jesus Before Pilate
28 Then the Jewish leaders took Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman governor. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness they did not enter the palace, because they wanted to be able to eat the Passover. 29 So Pilate came out to them and asked, “What charges are you bringing against this man?”
30 “If he were not a criminal,” they replied, “we would not have handed him over to you.”
31 Pilate said, “Take him yourselves and judge him by your own law.”
“But we have no right to execute anyone,” they objected. 32 This took place to fulfill what Jesus had said about the kind of death he was going to die.
33 Pilate then went back inside the palace, summoned Jesus and asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?”
34 “Is that your own idea,” Jesus asked, “or did others talk to you about me?”
35 “Am I a Jew?” Pilate replied. “Your own people and chief priests handed you over to me. What is it you have done?”
36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”
38 “What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him. 39 But it is your custom for me to release to you one prisoner at the time of the Passover. Do you want me to release ‘the king of the Jews’?”
40 They shouted back, “No, not him! Give us Barabbas!” Now Barabbas had taken part in an uprising.
Christians invented anti-Semitism?
LOL.
Were they not slaves in Egypt for 400 some odd years previous to that?
Once the Guttenberg press allowed people to have their own copies of the Bible, the Jewish persecution waned considerably, as did the political influence of the Pope to the point of having no real political power at all anymore. For you see, people could read it for themselves instead of just taking the word of the church for it as the manipulated it for their benefit politically and materially.
The Romans honored Jews and their ancient religion, they were exempt from military service for instance.
If you read the Gospels and early Christian literature, the Jews gradually assume al the guilt for killing Jesus while the Romans are exonerated. A smart political move since the Romans were in charge. As bad as the canonical Gospels were toward the Jews, the non-canonical ones were even worse.
The first crusade was against Jews. Jews were expelled from Spain and England. There were ghettos and pograms throughout the centuries.
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You just can't help making up feces since your head is full of it. It has nothing to do with Hitler in that sense; his hatred of the Jews came from their being rich and curmudgeonous. Clearly, the Jews were a merchant class while your family was not.
Wonderful, thank you. Instead of debunking my position you show that Christians still maintain the ugly stereotypes of the Middle Ages.
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No ugly stereotype. Just giving it to you up your rear end so you REMEMBER it. So you and your family won't be accusing Christians of creating Hitler. Own your evolution and its relative, eugenics. It's full of hate just like you and Darwin.
More ugliness and hate, you really just keep on giving. Namely giving Christians bad name. I'm pretty sure Jesus never said "Just giving it to you up your rear end so you REMEMBER it".
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