CDC Finally Admits What Conservatives Have Always Known

[RoshawnMarkwees]

But it hasn't killed more than the typical flu.

The death rate of any illness, is the total number of people infected, by the number of deaths.

What we on the right-wing have all known for long time, is that the number of actual infected is dramatically higher than the number of known confirmed infected.

They are checking blood from blood donations, and found many show signs that the person who donated the blood has already had Covid-19. People that didn't go to hospital, or even didn't have any symptoms.

That means that the death rate, is lower than the flu. Do we shut down the economy for an illness less deadly than the flu? Of course not. Ridiculous.

Instead we should have simply isolated people who were sick... just like Japan and Sweden.... and we should have protected nursing homes, where the most-at-risk people were.

Half the deaths in New York City, were in Nursing homes where Cuomo forced known Covid patients back into those places, and killed everyone.

That should have been the focus. Not trying to shut down half the economy.

Yes, COVID-19 has killed far more than the typical flu. It could have a lower death rate and kill more than the flu. It would just need to infect more people. The flu is estimated to have killed an average of under 40,000 each flu season in the US. COVID-19 is estimated at over 120,000. The death rate doesn't change that.

Whether the government reactions to COVID-19 were appropriate is, in large part, a separate question. Certainly it has been far from perfect at many levels.

The global death rate for the flu is anywhere from 300,000 to 650,000 and Covid so far has killed 500,000.

 

[Montrovant]

The global death rate for the flu is anywhere from 300,000 to 650,000 and Covid so far has killed 500,000.

So it's killed a bunch more people than the flu in the US and is on track to do so worldwide.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The global death rate for the flu is anywhere from 300,000 to 650,000 and Covid so far has killed 500,000.

So it's killed a bunch more people than the flu in the US and is on track to do so worldwide.

Not really. Death rate is down and many deaths are attributed to Wuhan that aren’t Wuhan ($$).

 

[dudmuck]

But it hasn't killed more than the typical flu.

The death rate of any illness, is the total number of people infected, by the number of deaths.

What we on the right-wing have all known for long time, is that the number of actual infected is dramatically higher than the number of known confirmed infected.

They are checking blood from blood donations, and found many show signs that the person who donated the blood has already had Covid-19. People that didn't go to hospital, or even didn't have any symptoms.

That means that the death rate, is lower than the flu. Do we shut down the economy for an illness less deadly than the flu? Of course not. Ridiculous.

Instead we should have simply isolated people who were sick... just like Japan and Sweden.... and we should have protected nursing homes, where the most-at-risk people were.

Half the deaths in New York City, were in Nursing homes where Cuomo forced known Covid patients back into those places, and killed everyone.

That should have been the focus. Not trying to shut down half the economy.

Yes, COVID-19 has killed far more than the typical flu. It could have a lower death rate and kill more than the flu. It would just need to infect more people. The flu is estimated to have killed an average of under 40,000 each flu season in the US. COVID-19 is estimated at over 120,000. The death rate doesn't change that.

Whether the government reactions to COVID-19 were appropriate is, in large part, a separate question. Certainly it has been far from perfect at many levels.

The global death rate for the flu is anywhere from 300,000 to 650,000 and Covid so far has killed 500,000.

thats the number of deaths, not the death rate.
The death rate is called "infection fatality rate" or IFR.
It varies by regional demographics, but the range is 0.5 to 1 percent.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

But it hasn't killed more than the typical flu.

The death rate of any illness, is the total number of people infected, by the number of deaths.

What we on the right-wing have all known for long time, is that the number of actual infected is dramatically higher than the number of known confirmed infected.

They are checking blood from blood donations, and found many show signs that the person who donated the blood has already had Covid-19. People that didn't go to hospital, or even didn't have any symptoms.

That means that the death rate, is lower than the flu. Do we shut down the economy for an illness less deadly than the flu? Of course not. Ridiculous.

Instead we should have simply isolated people who were sick... just like Japan and Sweden.... and we should have protected nursing homes, where the most-at-risk people were.

Half the deaths in New York City, were in Nursing homes where Cuomo forced known Covid patients back into those places, and killed everyone.

That should have been the focus. Not trying to shut down half the economy.

Yes, COVID-19 has killed far more than the typical flu. It could have a lower death rate and kill more than the flu. It would just need to infect more people. The flu is estimated to have killed an average of under 40,000 each flu season in the US. COVID-19 is estimated at over 120,000. The death rate doesn't change that.

Whether the government reactions to COVID-19 were appropriate is, in large part, a separate question. Certainly it has been far from perfect at many levels.

The global death rate for the flu is anywhere from 300,000 to 650,000 and Covid so far has killed 500,000.

thats the number of deaths, not the death rate.
The death rate is called "infection fatality rate" or IFR.
It varies by regional demographics, but the range is 0.5 to 1 percent.

It’s the number that counts.

 

[dudmuck]

But it hasn't killed more than the typical flu.

The death rate of any illness, is the total number of people infected, by the number of deaths.

What we on the right-wing have all known for long time, is that the number of actual infected is dramatically higher than the number of known confirmed infected.

They are checking blood from blood donations, and found many show signs that the person who donated the blood has already had Covid-19. People that didn't go to hospital, or even didn't have any symptoms.

That means that the death rate, is lower than the flu. Do we shut down the economy for an illness less deadly than the flu? Of course not. Ridiculous.

Instead we should have simply isolated people who were sick... just like Japan and Sweden.... and we should have protected nursing homes, where the most-at-risk people were.

Half the deaths in New York City, were in Nursing homes where Cuomo forced known Covid patients back into those places, and killed everyone.

That should have been the focus. Not trying to shut down half the economy.

Yes, COVID-19 has killed far more than the typical flu. It could have a lower death rate and kill more than the flu. It would just need to infect more people. The flu is estimated to have killed an average of under 40,000 each flu season in the US. COVID-19 is estimated at over 120,000. The death rate doesn't change that.

Whether the government reactions to COVID-19 were appropriate is, in large part, a separate question. Certainly it has been far from perfect at many levels.

The global death rate for the flu is anywhere from 300,000 to 650,000 and Covid so far has killed 500,000.

thats the number of deaths, not the death rate.
The death rate is called "infection fatality rate" or IFR.
It varies by regional demographics, but the range is 0.5 to 1 percent.

It’s the number that counts.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

But it hasn't killed more than the typical flu.

The death rate of any illness, is the total number of people infected, by the number of deaths.

What we on the right-wing have all known for long time, is that the number of actual infected is dramatically higher than the number of known confirmed infected.

They are checking blood from blood donations, and found many show signs that the person who donated the blood has already had Covid-19. People that didn't go to hospital, or even didn't have any symptoms.

That means that the death rate, is lower than the flu. Do we shut down the economy for an illness less deadly than the flu? Of course not. Ridiculous.

Instead we should have simply isolated people who were sick... just like Japan and Sweden.... and we should have protected nursing homes, where the most-at-risk people were.

Half the deaths in New York City, were in Nursing homes where Cuomo forced known Covid patients back into those places, and killed everyone.

That should have been the focus. Not trying to shut down half the economy.

Yes, COVID-19 has killed far more than the typical flu. It could have a lower death rate and kill more than the flu. It would just need to infect more people. The flu is estimated to have killed an average of under 40,000 each flu season in the US. COVID-19 is estimated at over 120,000. The death rate doesn't change that.

Whether the government reactions to COVID-19 were appropriate is, in large part, a separate question. Certainly it has been far from perfect at many levels.

The global death rate for the flu is anywhere from 300,000 to 650,000 and Covid so far has killed 500,000.

thats the number of deaths, not the death rate.
The death rate is called "infection fatality rate" or IFR.
It varies by regional demographics, but the range is 0.5 to 1 percent.

It’s the number that counts.

Deaths in NY — 31,000

 

[Andylusion]

But it hasn't killed more than the typical flu.

The death rate of any illness, is the total number of people infected, by the number of deaths.

What we on the right-wing have all known for long time, is that the number of actual infected is dramatically higher than the number of known confirmed infected.

They are checking blood from blood donations, and found many show signs that the person who donated the blood has already had Covid-19. People that didn't go to hospital, or even didn't have any symptoms.

That means that the death rate, is lower than the flu. Do we shut down the economy for an illness less deadly than the flu? Of course not. Ridiculous.

Instead we should have simply isolated people who were sick... just like Japan and Sweden.... and we should have protected nursing homes, where the most-at-risk people were.

Half the deaths in New York City, were in Nursing homes where Cuomo forced known Covid patients back into those places, and killed everyone.

That should have been the focus. Not trying to shut down half the economy.

Yes, COVID-19 has killed far more than the typical flu. It could have a lower death rate and kill more than the flu. It would just need to infect more people. The flu is estimated to have killed an average of under 40,000 each flu season in the US. COVID-19 is estimated at over 120,000. The death rate doesn't change that.

Whether the government reactions to COVID-19 were appropriate is, in large part, a separate question. Certainly it has been far from perfect at many levels.

I think you are missing the point.

Yes, it has killed more people in the first year. And the same would be true of the flu, if this was the first year of the flu.

Let's reverse the situation as an example. Let's pretend that for the last hundred years we had Covid, and the flu didn't exist until this year.

What would be the difference? Covid we would have, from years of being exposed, a fairly good immunity to it, so that it infected fewer people. Plus we would likely have vaccines for it, and better treatment.

Meanwhile, the flu, because we had never had it before... would fly through the population at amazing speed in the first year, because having never been exposed, it would have no trouble spreading.

However... the death rates would be pretty close to what they are now, but the number of deaths in the first year, would even higher than the 120,000 we have. Why? Because the flu would be a new novel virus, and we wouldn't have immunity to it. Not because it's more deadly... just because we have no treatment, or vaccine, or herd resistance.

What I'm saying isn't exactly Ph.D required stuff either. I'm bit surprised most people don't know this.

Take Smallpox. When Europeans unintentionally brought smallpox to Mexico, at that time throughout all of Europe, an estimated some 200,000 died of Smallpox a year. Mexico, which had no immunity to this new virus, wiped 8 Million people.

Same illness. Just people who had no resistance. The death rate didn't change, the spread changed, because it was a group of people with no immunity.

Covid is less deadly than the flu, from the best information we have now. The only difference is, we have resistance to the flu, and we don't... yet... to Covid.

It will spread through the population, resistance will be built up, and the numbers will subside.

 

[Andylusion]

But it hasn't killed more than the typical flu.

The death rate of any illness, is the total number of people infected, by the number of deaths.

What we on the right-wing have all known for long time, is that the number of actual infected is dramatically higher than the number of known confirmed infected.

They are checking blood from blood donations, and found many show signs that the person who donated the blood has already had Covid-19. People that didn't go to hospital, or even didn't have any symptoms.

That means that the death rate, is lower than the flu. Do we shut down the economy for an illness less deadly than the flu? Of course not. Ridiculous.

Instead we should have simply isolated people who were sick... just like Japan and Sweden.... and we should have protected nursing homes, where the most-at-risk people were.

Half the deaths in New York City, were in Nursing homes where Cuomo forced known Covid patients back into those places, and killed everyone.

That should have been the focus. Not trying to shut down half the economy.

Yes, COVID-19 has killed far more than the typical flu. It could have a lower death rate and kill more than the flu. It would just need to infect more people. The flu is estimated to have killed an average of under 40,000 each flu season in the US. COVID-19 is estimated at over 120,000. The death rate doesn't change that.

Whether the government reactions to COVID-19 were appropriate is, in large part, a separate question. Certainly it has been far from perfect at many levels.

The global death rate for the flu is anywhere from 300,000 to 650,000 and Covid so far has killed 500,000.

thats the number of deaths, not the death rate.
The death rate is called "infection fatality rate" or IFR.
It varies by regional demographics, but the range is 0.5 to 1 percent.

It’s the number that counts.

Ok? So what? You think Merkel had anything to do with it?

 

[Montrovant]

I think you are missing the point.

Yes, it has killed more people in the first year. And the same would be true of the flu, if this was the first year of the flu.

Let's reverse the situation as an example. Let's pretend that for the last hundred years we had Covid, and the flu didn't exist until this year.

What would be the difference? Covid we would have, from years of being exposed, a fairly good immunity to it, so that it infected fewer people. Plus we would likely have vaccines for it, and better treatment.

Meanwhile, the flu, because we had never had it before... would fly through the population at amazing speed in the first year, because having never been exposed, it would have no trouble spreading.

However... the death rates would be pretty close to what they are now, but the number of deaths in the first year, would even higher than the 120,000 we have. Why? Because the flu would be a new novel virus, and we wouldn't have immunity to it. Not because it's more deadly... just because we have no treatment, or vaccine, or herd resistance.

What I'm saying isn't exactly Ph.D required stuff either. I'm bit surprised most people don't know this.

Take Smallpox. When Europeans unintentionally brought smallpox to Mexico, at that time throughout all of Europe, an estimated some 200,000 died of Smallpox a year. Mexico, which had no immunity to this new virus, wiped 8 Million people.

Same illness. Just people who had no resistance. The death rate didn't change, the spread changed, because it was a group of people with no immunity.

Covid is less deadly than the flu, from the best information we have now. The only difference is, we have resistance to the flu, and we don't... yet... to Covid.

It will spread through the population, resistance will be built up, and the numbers will subside.

I would think that getting the sort of "immunity" you are talking about would mean people fight off the virus, not that they never become infected. I understand the point, though: prior exposure lowers the severity of a given virus on a population.

You're certainly right that this virus being new is a huge reason it's caused such problems.

 

[Nostra]

The deaths are a known quantity, though inflated. The question is, what percentage of the population is infected. This is important because it tells us if the mortality rate is high or low. Turns out it is VERY low
23 million likely have or had the virus

CDC director says COVID-19 infections likely 10 times higher than official numbers

Asymptomatic illness is likely hiding much of the spread, he said.

justthenews.com

That would put the US death rate at .005%

 

[Care4all]

The deaths are a known quantity, though inflated. The question is, what percentage of the population is infected. This is important because it tells us if the mortality rate is high or low. Turns out it is VERY low
23 million likely have or had the virus

CDC director says COVID-19 infections likely 10 times higher than official numbers

Asymptomatic illness is likely hiding much of the spread, he said.

justthenews.com

What does that mean, though? Do the 120,000+ deaths mean less if the death rate is lower?

Depends on how they are counted.........I know of 2 elderly people who people at work know that the death certificate said covid...............both really died of something else.......terminal cancer in the last stages.......no hope for survival...........other gang green......from diabetes..........

But both said COVID on the certificate..........imagine that..............not to mention the gov't funds for claiming covid on the medical billing.

What govt funds are given for calling the death covid vs cancer?

NONE!

Thousands of deaths from COVID have not been counted.... January, February and March we had no testing available or insufficient amounts.... And the CDC is only counting deaths of those who were tested and positive.

March there was allegedly only 3000 deaths...because we had no testing available....but in April we did have testing, and nearly 55000 deaths were recorded as COVID due to having more testing kits.

40000 deaths were likely not counted in March.

And even now, if you are not tested, and died at home from it, you are not counted in the CDC numbers.....

Those who died in nursing homes, without being COVID tested, were not counted in the COVID deaths.


The number of deaths are not fewer than the CDC recorded,

The number of deaths from COVID are much greater than CDC recorded....

Even with the COVID deaths taken out ...of those who were going to die from some other disease....

I know the people who told me this..........they don't lie.......and the cert said COVID........They didn't die from Covid.

Yes, as I said, there are a few in the covid count, that may have passed onward, from something else.... but not in great numbers....

I don't believe it......and the numbers as the data comes forward is not worth the damage to this country from the shutdowns...............We just haven't seen the full effect yet..........it's coming........and it will not be pretty.....

All we have done is delayed what was coming anyway...........I remember early on so many HYPING THE DEATH COUNT......I said by what information.....and used the best data available the cruise ship and South Korea.........hell those numbers were way to dang high...............0.8 to 1%.........the experts were wrong..........

And on here POSTER AFTER POSTER said HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE EXPERTS......I learned a long time ago to QUESTION AUTHORITY are they will walk all over you.........and they sure as hell did it here...........with the real rate being about 0.2 now.

The death count is only from the first inning, 8 more to go.... life isn't going to be peachy keen, for quite some time.... You need to mentally prepare yourself for that, imo...

 

[Andylusion]

The deaths are a known quantity, though inflated. The question is, what percentage of the population is infected. This is important because it tells us if the mortality rate is high or low. Turns out it is VERY low
23 million likely have or had the virus

CDC director says COVID-19 infections likely 10 times higher than official numbers

Asymptomatic illness is likely hiding much of the spread, he said.

justthenews.com

What does that mean, though? Do the 120,000+ deaths mean less if the death rate is lower?

Depends on how they are counted.........I know of 2 elderly people who people at work know that the death certificate said covid...............both really died of something else.......terminal cancer in the last stages.......no hope for survival...........other gang green......from diabetes..........

But both said COVID on the certificate..........imagine that..............not to mention the gov't funds for claiming covid on the medical billing.

What govt funds are given for calling the death covid vs cancer?

NONE!

Thousands of deaths from COVID have not been counted.... January, February and March we had no testing available or insufficient amounts.... And the CDC is only counting deaths of those who were tested and positive.

March there was allegedly only 3000 deaths...because we had no testing available....but in April we did have testing, and nearly 55000 deaths were recorded as COVID due to having more testing kits.

40000 deaths were likely not counted in March.

And even now, if you are not tested, and died at home from it, you are not counted in the CDC numbers.....

Those who died in nursing homes, without being COVID tested, were not counted in the COVID deaths.


The number of deaths are not fewer than the CDC recorded,

The number of deaths from COVID are much greater than CDC recorded....

Even with the COVID deaths taken out ...of those who were going to die from some other disease....

I know the people who told me this..........they don't lie.......and the cert said COVID........They didn't die from Covid.

Yes, as I said, there are a few in the covid count, that may have passed onward, from something else.... but not in great numbers....

I don't believe it......and the numbers as the data comes forward is not worth the damage to this country from the shutdowns...............We just haven't seen the full effect yet..........it's coming........and it will not be pretty.....

All we have done is delayed what was coming anyway...........I remember early on so many HYPING THE DEATH COUNT......I said by what information.....and used the best data available the cruise ship and South Korea.........hell those numbers were way to dang high...............0.8 to 1%.........the experts were wrong..........

And on here POSTER AFTER POSTER said HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE EXPERTS......I learned a long time ago to QUESTION AUTHORITY are they will walk all over you.........and they sure as hell did it here...........with the real rate being about 0.2 now.

The death count is only from the first inning, 8 more to go.... life isn't going to be peachy keen, for quite some time.... You need to mentally prepare yourself for that, imo...

I have more hope than that.

In fact, what the CDC said, indicates to me that things will improve pretty fast.

Why? So one of the things the CDC did, was test donated blood for Covid-19 anti-bodies.

This indicates the person who donated the blood, didn't even know they were infected. Which we already knew that tons of people are asymptomatic. Meaning they have the virus, fight it off, and have no symptoms.

Now that's critical to understand. The virus is spreading through the population, and people are gaining resistance, and they don't even know they had it.

As that spreads, at some point Corona will start having a hard time finding non-immune people to jump to.

I think this is good news. To me, I am optimistic.

 

[Montrovant]

I have more hope than that.

In fact, what the CDC said, indicates to me that things will improve pretty fast.

Why? So one of the things the CDC did, was test donated blood for Covid-19 anti-bodies.

This indicates the person who donated the blood, didn't even know they were infected. Which we already knew that tons of people are asymptomatic. Meaning they have the virus, fight it off, and have no symptoms.

Now that's critical to understand. The virus is spreading through the population, and people are gaining resistance, and they don't even know they had it.

As that spreads, at some point Corona will start having a hard time finding non-immune people to jump to.

I think this is good news. To me, I am optimistic.

The big worry is that immunity isn't permanent. There have been reports of people getting infected more than once. So far I've only seen a couple of supposed incidents like that, but if people either don't get immunity or only get it for a limited time, it would be a problem. Hopefully those cases are either false or just outliers, though.

 

[Andylusion]

I have more hope than that.

In fact, what the CDC said, indicates to me that things will improve pretty fast.

Why? So one of the things the CDC did, was test donated blood for Covid-19 anti-bodies.

This indicates the person who donated the blood, didn't even know they were infected. Which we already knew that tons of people are asymptomatic. Meaning they have the virus, fight it off, and have no symptoms.

Now that's critical to understand. The virus is spreading through the population, and people are gaining resistance, and they don't even know they had it.

As that spreads, at some point Corona will start having a hard time finding non-immune people to jump to.

I think this is good news. To me, I am optimistic.

The big worry is that immunity isn't permanent. There have been reports of people getting infected more than once. So far I've only seen a couple of supposed incidents like that, but if people either don't get immunity or only get it for a limited time, it would be a problem. Hopefully those cases are either false or just outliers, though.

That's true of any virus. You can get the flu twice in one year.

People can get the chicken pox again.

There is no such thing as actual immunity. What people call immunity, is more like resistance, that lowers the severity and duration of an illness.

But there is no actual "immunity".

Again, we learned this from the Spanish flu. The Spanish Flu had actually 3 waves, that happened over 3 years.

But what they found isn't that it wasn't the same people in each wave. While there were also some that got sick from the second or third strain of the Spanish flu, the reality was most people who got the less severe first strain from the first wave, generally didn't get the second or third strains. And those that did, had it far less severe as others around them who had not gotten sick during the first wave.

So I am optimistic.

 

[Montrovant]

I have more hope than that.

In fact, what the CDC said, indicates to me that things will improve pretty fast.

Why? So one of the things the CDC did, was test donated blood for Covid-19 anti-bodies.

This indicates the person who donated the blood, didn't even know they were infected. Which we already knew that tons of people are asymptomatic. Meaning they have the virus, fight it off, and have no symptoms.

Now that's critical to understand. The virus is spreading through the population, and people are gaining resistance, and they don't even know they had it.

As that spreads, at some point Corona will start having a hard time finding non-immune people to jump to.

I think this is good news. To me, I am optimistic.

The big worry is that immunity isn't permanent. There have been reports of people getting infected more than once. So far I've only seen a couple of supposed incidents like that, but if people either don't get immunity or only get it for a limited time, it would be a problem. Hopefully those cases are either false or just outliers, though.

That's true of any virus. You can get the flu twice in one year.

People can get the chicken pox again.

There is no such thing as actual immunity. What people call immunity, is more like resistance, that lowers the severity and duration of an illness.

But there is no actual "immunity".

Again, we learned this from the Spanish flu. The Spanish Flu had actually 3 waves, that happened over 3 years.

But what they found isn't that it wasn't the same people in each wave. While there were also some that got sick from the second or third strain of the Spanish flu, the reality was most people who got the less severe first strain from the first wave, generally didn't get the second or third strains. And those that did, had it far less severe as others around them who had not gotten sick during the first wave.

So I am optimistic.

I tend to be pessimistic by nature, but I'm trying not to assume the worst. This virus has been somewhat unusual, which leads to more than usual worry.

 

[Andylusion]

I have more hope than that.

In fact, what the CDC said, indicates to me that things will improve pretty fast.

Why? So one of the things the CDC did, was test donated blood for Covid-19 anti-bodies.

This indicates the person who donated the blood, didn't even know they were infected. Which we already knew that tons of people are asymptomatic. Meaning they have the virus, fight it off, and have no symptoms.

Now that's critical to understand. The virus is spreading through the population, and people are gaining resistance, and they don't even know they had it.

As that spreads, at some point Corona will start having a hard time finding non-immune people to jump to.

I think this is good news. To me, I am optimistic.

The big worry is that immunity isn't permanent. There have been reports of people getting infected more than once. So far I've only seen a couple of supposed incidents like that, but if people either don't get immunity or only get it for a limited time, it would be a problem. Hopefully those cases are either false or just outliers, though.

That's true of any virus. You can get the flu twice in one year.

People can get the chicken pox again.

There is no such thing as actual immunity. What people call immunity, is more like resistance, that lowers the severity and duration of an illness.

But there is no actual "immunity".

Again, we learned this from the Spanish flu. The Spanish Flu had actually 3 waves, that happened over 3 years.

But what they found isn't that it wasn't the same people in each wave. While there were also some that got sick from the second or third strain of the Spanish flu, the reality was most people who got the less severe first strain from the first wave, generally didn't get the second or third strains. And those that did, had it far less severe as others around them who had not gotten sick during the first wave.

So I am optimistic.

I tend to be pessimistic by nature, but I'm trying not to assume the worst. This virus has been somewhat unusual, which leads to more than usual worry.

Actually I don't think the virus is all that unusual. I think the insanity of left-wing media and pundits, plus an out of control hate by the Democratic establishment of Trump, that is more than willing to use any and every possible reason to attack their political opponents, has blew this thing so far out of proportion to what it really is.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The deaths are a known quantity, though inflated. The question is, what percentage of the population is infected. This is important because it tells us if the mortality rate is high or low. Turns out it is VERY low
23 million likely have or had the virus

CDC director says COVID-19 infections likely 10 times higher than official numbers

Asymptomatic illness is likely hiding much of the spread, he said.

justthenews.com

What does that mean, though? Do the 120,000+ deaths mean less if the death rate is lower?

Depends on how they are counted.........I know of 2 elderly people who people at work know that the death certificate said covid...............both really died of something else.......terminal cancer in the last stages.......no hope for survival...........other gang green......from diabetes..........

But both said COVID on the certificate..........imagine that..............not to mention the gov't funds for claiming covid on the medical billing.

What govt funds are given for calling the death covid vs cancer?

NONE!

Thousands of deaths from COVID have not been counted.... January, February and March we had no testing available or insufficient amounts.... And the CDC is only counting deaths of those who were tested and positive.

March there was allegedly only 3000 deaths...because we had no testing available....but in April we did have testing, and nearly 55000 deaths were recorded as COVID due to having more testing kits.

40000 deaths were likely not counted in March.

And even now, if you are not tested, and died at home from it, you are not counted in the CDC numbers.....

Those who died in nursing homes, without being COVID tested, were not counted in the COVID deaths.


The number of deaths are not fewer than the CDC recorded,

The number of deaths from COVID are much greater than CDC recorded....

Even with the COVID deaths taken out ...of those who were going to die from some other disease....

I know the people who told me this..........they don't lie.......and the cert said COVID........They didn't die from Covid.

Yes, as I said, there are a few in the covid count, that may have passed onward, from something else.... but not in great numbers....

I don't believe it......and the numbers as the data comes forward is not worth the damage to this country from the shutdowns...............We just haven't seen the full effect yet..........it's coming........and it will not be pretty.....

All we have done is delayed what was coming anyway...........I remember early on so many HYPING THE DEATH COUNT......I said by what information.....and used the best data available the cruise ship and South Korea.........hell those numbers were way to dang high...............0.8 to 1%.........the experts were wrong..........

And on here POSTER AFTER POSTER said HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE EXPERTS......I learned a long time ago to QUESTION AUTHORITY are they will walk all over you.........and they sure as hell did it here...........with the real rate being about 0.2 now.

The death count is only from the first inning, 8 more to go.... life isn't going to be peachy keen, for quite some time.... You need to mentally prepare yourself for that, imo...

Unless Biden wins then the game will be called for darkness.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The deaths are a known quantity, though inflated. The question is, what percentage of the population is infected. This is important because it tells us if the mortality rate is high or low. Turns out it is VERY low
23 million likely have or had the virus

CDC director says COVID-19 infections likely 10 times higher than official numbers

Asymptomatic illness is likely hiding much of the spread, he said.

justthenews.com

It does not matter to you, I'm sure. Trumpers don't care about anybody but trump. 127,640 in 5 months is a lot of dead people. Infection levels are at all-time highs and Americans aren't taking the precautions serious, so I suspect another 127,000 or so in the next 5 months. Last time a republican ran the white house, they killed the economy and left the mess to be cleaned up by the Democrats. This time they drained the Fed and presided over the death of 127,640 Americans, maybe 254,000 plus by election day and they will again leave the Democrats to clean up the mess.

Democrats destroyed the economy, dumbass. If Trump and the CDC did not recommend interventions we could be looking at deaths in the millions.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The deaths are a known quantity, though inflated. The question is, what percentage of the population is infected. This is important because it tells us if the mortality rate is high or low. Turns out it is VERY low
23 million likely have or had the virus

CDC director says COVID-19 infections likely 10 times higher than official numbers

Asymptomatic illness is likely hiding much of the spread, he said.

justthenews.com

What does that mean, though? Do the 120,000+ deaths mean less if the death rate is lower?

Depends on how they are counted.........I know of 2 elderly people who people at work know that the death certificate said covid...............both really died of something else.......terminal cancer in the last stages.......no hope for survival...........other gang green......from diabetes..........

But both said COVID on the certificate..........imagine that..............not to mention the gov't funds for claiming covid on the medical billing.

gangrene