Carl Sagan was correct. He still is.

[Dante Reawakened]

"Human history can be viewed as a slowly dawning awareness that we are members of a larger group. Initially our loyalties were to ourselves and our immediate family, next, to bands of wandering hunter-gatherers, then to tribes, small settlements, city-states, nations. We have broadened the circle of those we love. We have now organized what are modestly described as super-powers, which include groups of people from divergent ethnic and cultural backgrounds working in some sense together — surely a humanizing and character building experience. If we are to survive, our loyalties must be broadened further, to include the whole human community, the entire planet Earth. Many of those who run the nations will find this idea unpleasant. They will fear the loss of power. We will hear much about treason and disloyalty. Rich nation-states will have to share their wealth with poor ones. But the choice, as H. G. Wells once said in a different context, is clearly the universe or nothing." ~

Carl Sagan

 

[shockedcanadian]

Globalism won't be stopped, the world became much smaller with the advent of the internet. The issue is in regards to what degree and how will nations genuinely trust one another, especially as it pertains to trade?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Globalism won't be stopped, the world became much smaller with the advent of the internet. The issue is in regards to what degree and how will nations genuinely trust one another, especially as it pertains to trade?

but outside of commerce, there is a natural drift towards breaking down borders

 

[gtopa1]

"Human history can be viewed as a slowly dawning awareness that we are members of a larger group. Initially our loyalties were to ourselves and our immediate family, next, to bands of wandering hunter-gatherers, then to tribes, small settlements, city-states, nations. We have broadened the circle of those we love. We have now organized what are modestly described as super-powers, which include groups of people from divergent ethnic and cultural backgrounds working in some sense together — surely a humanizing and character building experience. If we are to survive, our loyalties must be broadened further, to include the whole human community, the entire planet Earth. Many of those who run the nations will find this idea unpleasant. They will fear the loss of power. We will hear much about treason and disloyalty. Rich nation-states will have to share their wealth with poor ones. But the choice, as H. G. Wells once said in a different context, is clearly the universe or nothing." ~

Carl Sagan

Nah; NONE of the Individual, Family, bands etc etc have been supplanted in a Social context. You may be unaware of "The Saturation Point" at which so called "progress" stops. The only constant is the Individual and FAMILY!! The rest is just a variable supra-structure!!! The UN was supposed to usher in that of which you speak; it hasn't and nothing really will.

Greg

 

[BackAgain]

We justifiably have difficulties trusting our own leaders. There’s not a lot to recommend placing trust in the leadership of “others.”

Carl Sagan was a bright scientist and a pretty good educator. But some of his political and social views were plainly just strained philosophy bolstered by a reputation for intelligence in another field.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Nah; NONE of the Individual, Family, bands etc etc have been supplanted in a Social context. You may be unaware of "The Saturation Point" at which so called "progress" stops. The only constant is the Individual and FAMILY!! The rest is just a variable supra-structure!!! The UN was supposed to usher in that of which you speak; it hasn't and nothing really will.

Greg

change is the only constant.

your kind is always left behind

 

[gtopa1]

but outside of commerce, there is a natural drift towards breaking down borders

There is increased mobility that is true in a way, but Nations are lamenting the brain drain which Richer Nations use to enable faster Economic Growth. At some point it stabilises.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

change is the only constant.

your kind is always left behind

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What "kind" is that, shortbus??

Greg

 

[Dante Reawakened]

We justifiably have difficulties trusting our own leaders. There’s not a lot to recommend placing trust in the leadership of “others.”

Carl Sagan was a bright scientist and a pretty good educator. But some of his political and social views were plainly just strained philosophy bolstered by a reputation for intelligence in another field.

another pathetic attempt of character assassination on your part

 

[Dante Reawakened]

What "kind" is that, shortbus??

Greg

I wouldn't know, having never ridden one

 

[Dante Reawakened]

There is increased mobility that is true in a way, but Nations are lamenting the brain drain which Richer Nations use to enable faster Economic Growth. At some point it stabilises.

Greg

predictions

sweet

the brain drain becomes less of a problem as we advance

 

[BackAgain]

another pathetic attempt of character assassination on your part

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Dainty pointlessly repeats his meme theme despite it not making sense or drawing any positive reviews. Why? Because Dainty is perpetually shallow.

 

[gtopa1]

Dainty pointlessly repeats his meme theme despite it not making sense or drawing any positive reviews. Why? Because Dainty is perpetually shallow.

Dainty is a new age Marxist buttgrommet!!! Nuff said!!!

Greg

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Dainty pointlessly repeats his meme theme despite it not making sense or drawing any positive reviews. Why? Because Dainty is perpetually shallow.

 

[BackAgain]

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Dainty still straining to find an image he hopes will garner at least a grin.

Dainty is still missing.

 

[gtopa1]

I wouldn't know, having never ridden one

So you're a cowardly pathetic snipe as well. Go shoot your load somewhere else!!!

Greg

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Dainty is a new age Marxist buttgrommet!!! Nuff said!!!

Greg

gtopa joins the wingnut circle jerk

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Dainty still staining to find an image he hopes will garner at least a grin.

Dainty is still missing.

your pals have joined you here

 

[gtopa1]

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Projecting your coprophilic tendencies again!!!

Greg

 

[BackAgain]

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your pals have joined you here

Another feeble swing by dainty. Another whiff