Capitalistic greed is the main problem in the U.S.

[Slade3200]

Ridiculous comparisons don't help your argument.

Of course. Johnny Depp getting $500 million for 6 months work isn't greed, because he donates to the Clinton foundation. Besides, they aren't "rich," The rich people you hate at those doctors and dentists who make $250,000 a year for working 80 hour weeks.


As I've said for decades; there is NO hypocrisy like demopocrisy.

How about if we deregulate murder and child porn? After all, we don't want the government intruding on what people do.

How about you take your meds?

There is a big difference between somebody that makes a fortune from entertaining people versus a company that is making money from inflating the prices of medicine that could save the lives of human beings. Where people who can not afford to pay for their products suffer and/or die. Common, you know that analogy is BS.

 

[Conservative65]

FEED THE GREED = REPUBLICAN PARTY MOTTO

=====

Welcome to the United Corporate States of America

Democracy is dead

Long live the Corporation

Greed is being on welfare and using the filthy ass government to make somebody else pay your bills. That is real American greed.

Democrats are the greediest sonofabitches in this country right now.

Not one person wanting to keep what he/she earned can be greedy. However, every person that demands what someone else earned come to them is.

 

[Conservative65]

Ridiculous comparisons don't help your argument.

Of course. Johnny Depp getting $500 million for 6 months work isn't greed, because he donates to the Clinton foundation. Besides, they aren't "rich," The rich people you hate at those doctors and dentists who make $250,000 a year for working 80 hour weeks.


As I've said for decades; there is NO hypocrisy like demopocrisy.

How about if we deregulate murder and child porn? After all, we don't want the government intruding on what people do.

How about you take your meds?

There is a big difference between somebody that makes a fortune from entertaining people versus a company that is making money from inflating the prices of medicine that could save the lives of human beings. Where people who can not afford to pay for their products suffer and/or die. Common, you know that analogy is BS.

Not one bit of difference. Both provide a product that people want. One is entertainment and one is medicine.

 

[Flash]

[Q

There is a big difference between somebody that makes a fortune from entertaining people versus a company that is making money from inflating the prices of medicine that could save the lives of human beings. Where people who can not afford to pay for their products suffer and/or die. Common, you know that analogy is BS.

No, there is no difference.

It is the law of supply and demand.

You are not entitled to medication simply because you are alive.

You Moon Bats think you are entitled to everything, simply because you are alive, don't you? That is real greed.

I think it is greedy that Crooked Hillary takes $600K for a stupid ass speech, don't you? Isn't that greed on her part?

Isn't it greed that Crooked Hillary takes in hundreds of millions of dollars in her money laundering scam and claims it is for charity but yet doesn't give any to the people of Louisiana that were devastated by floods?

Isn't it greed that Crooked Hillary walks around in $25K designer pant suits but yet there are millions of people in this country that have to buy second hand clothes at Good Will?

 

[Uncensored2008]

There is a big difference between somebody that makes a fortune from entertaining people versus a company that is making money from inflating the prices of medicine that could save the lives of human beings. Where people who can not afford to pay for their products suffer and/or die. Common, you know that analogy is BS.

Yes, the difference being that the entertainer supports leftism, ergo your Massah tells you to love them, and hate those who do not bribe the party.

There TRULY is no hypocrisy like demopocrisy....

 

[Slade3200]

Ridiculous comparisons don't help your argument.

Of course. Johnny Depp getting $500 million for 6 months work isn't greed, because he donates to the Clinton foundation. Besides, they aren't "rich," The rich people you hate at those doctors and dentists who make $250,000 a year for working 80 hour weeks.


As I've said for decades; there is NO hypocrisy like demopocrisy.

How about if we deregulate murder and child porn? After all, we don't want the government intruding on what people do.

How about you take your meds?

There is a big difference between somebody that makes a fortune from entertaining people versus a company that is making money from inflating the prices of medicine that could save the lives of human beings. Where people who can not afford to pay for their products suffer and/or die. Common, you know that analogy is BS.

Not one bit of difference. Both provide a product that people want. One is entertainment and one is medicine.

You don't think there is a difference between entertainment and medicine?

Y'all are crazy, consumer products are one thing, the health and well being of our citizens, of all human beings, is something that is completely different. Not everybody needs a new Porsche or pair of air Jordan's, but if somebody is sick and suffering and we have the resources and ability to ease the pain or save a life then we sure as hell better do it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You don't think there is a difference between entertainment and medicine?

Y'all are crazy, consumer products are one thing, the health and well being of our citizens, of all human beings, is something that is completely different. Not everybody needs a new Porsche or pair of air Jordan's, but if somebody is sick and suffering and we have the resources and ability to ease the pain or save a life then we sure as hell better do it.

In what regard?

Entertainment doesn't take decades of research and development to create, medicine does.

You Communists are killing the goose laying the golden eggs. Yes, you can nationalize Epipens and all other life saving drugs. You can crow about how GLORIOUS PEOPLES STATE gives to all what the running dog capitalist pigs would charge for.

Oh but that cancer treatment that the "greedy" drug companies were working on? It will never come about - because the only reason that the creators wracked their brains to makes these life saving marvels was to make a buck.

You Communists can steal what exists, and it's clear that you will - but it all stops here. There will be no more progress, because those with the talent and brains won't create knowing you will just steal anything they create.

This happens every time you greedy fucks get power. You steal everything that isn't tied down and then wonder why people quit producing?

Your world, the kleptocracy you are building, will never stand. It never does.

 

[Slade3200]

You don't think there is a difference between entertainment and medicine?

Y'all are crazy, consumer products are one thing, the health and well being of our citizens, of all human beings, is something that is completely different. Not everybody needs a new Porsche or pair of air Jordan's, but if somebody is sick and suffering and we have the resources and ability to ease the pain or save a life then we sure as hell better do it.

In what regard?

Entertainment doesn't take decades of research and development to create, medicine does.

You Communists are killing to goose laying to golden eggs. Yes, you can nationalize Epipens and all other life saving drugs. You can crow about how GLORIOUS PEOPLES STATE gives to all what the running dog capitalist pigs would charge for.

Oh but that cancer treatment that the "greedy" drug companies were working on? It will never come about - because the only reason that the creators wracked their brains to makes these life saving marvels was to make a buck.

You Communists can steal what exists, and it's clear that you will - but it all stops here. There will be no more progress, because those with the talent and brains won't create knowing you will just steal anything they create.

This happens every time you greedy fucks get power. You steal everything that isn't tied down and then wonder why people quit producing?

Your world, the kleptocracy you are building, will never stand. It never does.

Why is everything so extreme with dumbshits like you? You don't consider the reality that there is balance and everything. Express one bit of opinion that the government should regulate or participate in the safety and well being of its citizens and we are communist? Wake up. You say that entertainment and medicine are equal? Consumer products the same as life-saving products? I guess if you walk by somebody being raped on the side of the street you can choose to stand there and watch or just keep on walking or you can do something about it. There is no rule stating that you need to intervene in that case, however it is a matter of good and evil, right and wrong. There's an element of humanity that's involved in medicine and helping those who suffer. I guess you don't possess that element.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Why is everything so extreme with dumbshits like you? You don't consider the reality that there is balance and everything. Express one bit of opinion that the government should regulate or participate in the safety and well being of its citizens and we are communist? Wake up. You say that entertainment and medicine are equal? Consumer products the same as life-saving products? I guess if you walk by somebody being raped on the side of the street you can choose to stand there and watch or just keep on walking or you can do something about it. There is no rule stating that you need to intervene in that case, however it is a matter of good and evil, right and wrong. There's an element of humanity that's involved in medicine and helping those who suffer. I guess you don't possess that element.

Yeah, I mean, why do we have to tell the truth? Why do we have to name what it is that you are, and what it is that you're doing? We spoil everything.

 

[Slade3200]

Why is everything so extreme with dumbshits like you? You don't consider the reality that there is balance and everything. Express one bit of opinion that the government should regulate or participate in the safety and well being of its citizens and we are communist? Wake up. You say that entertainment and medicine are equal? Consumer products the same as life-saving products? I guess if you walk by somebody being raped on the side of the street you can choose to stand there and watch or just keep on walking or you can do something about it. There is no rule stating that you need to intervene in that case, however it is a matter of good and evil, right and wrong. There's an element of humanity that's involved in medicine and helping those who suffer. I guess you don't possess that element.

Yeah, I mean, why do we have to tell the truth? Why do we have to name what it is that you are, and what it is that you're doing? We spoil everything.

ok, I'll appease your pea brain for a second, explain how my point of view is communist

 

[Uncensored2008]

[

ok, I'll appease your pea brain for a second, explain how my point of view is communist

You seek to put the state in charge of the means of production.

Is it that you think you are so very clever that no one knows what it is you advocate? Or is it that you are so very ignorant that you don't grasp what it is you advocate?

 

[Slade3200]

[

ok, I'll appease your pea brain for a second, explain how my point of view is communist

You seek to put the state in charge of the means of production.

Is it that you think you are so very clever that no one knows what it is you advocate? Or is it that you are so very ignorant that you don't grasp what it is you advocate?

Not even close, I'm all for private business to handle the majority of commerce, but I'm also for the government keeping them in check.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Not even close, I'm all for private business to handle the majority of commerce, but I'm also for the government keeping them in check.

So, you're all for life, you just think death should be an immediate part of it... Got it.

So you want government to dictate what medicines people can get, and at what price. As I already pointed out, the immediate effect will be the end of advances in medicine. Your greed makes this appealing to you, regardless of consequence - I understand.

You say the state MUST seize drugs to make it more "fair" and ensure that "the poor" get their "fair share," right? I mean the greedy running dog capitalist pigs will sell at the highest price people are willing to pay. I mean, they want a return on the capital they invest. So you will have the state take from those who produce and give to those who do not. Kewl. No doubt people will flock to invest more capital, knowing that the return will be confiscated by the state, right It's human nature to not seek to gain from transactions - only evil capitalists want that.

But say Comrade, if medicine is vital for life, isn't food all that much MORE vital? None of us can live without food. Shouldn't the state "regulate" food and have state food stores to ensure that all people get "their fair share?"

It worked really well in Venezuela, driven by people just like you...

 

[Slade3200]

Not even close, I'm all for private business to handle the majority of commerce, but I'm also for the government keeping them in check.

So, you're all for life, you just think death should be an immediate part of it... Got it.

So you want government to dictate what medicines people can get, and at what price. As I already pointed out, the immediate effect will be the end of advances in medicine. Your greed makes this appealing to you, regardless of consequence - I understand.

You say the state MUST seize drugs to make it more "fair" and ensure that "the poor" get their "fair share," right? I mean the greedy running dog capitalist pigs will sell at the highest price people are willing to pay. I mean, they want a return on the capital they invest. So you will have the state take from those who produce and give to those who do not. Kewl. No doubt people will flock to invest more capital, knowing that the return will be confiscated by the state, right It's human nature to not seek to gain from transactions - only evil capitalists want that.

But say Comrade, if medicine is vital for life, isn't food all that much MORE vital? None of us can live without food. Shouldn't the state "regulate" food and have state food stores to ensure that all people get "their fair share?"

It worked really well in Venezuela, driven by people just like you...

No, nothing like that... I never said anything about seizure or confiscation, or distribution by the state... You made that up to try and label me as a communist.
Do you have comprehension problems? I say one thing and then you try to restate it in a completely distorted way. Is that really how your brain works? Are you sincere or just trying to be an ass?

 

[healthmyths]

The price of the Epipen just went up 500%. It costs a dollar to make, and big pharma is charging $500.00 to save a child's life.

The cost of all drugs in the U.S. are ten times more than any other country.

Health insurance is high because of greed. Doctors and hospitals are some of the greediest.

And it's not just big pharma, it's big oil too. When oil was $140.00 a barrel, gas cost $4.00 a gallon. Now oil is three times less at $47.00 a barrel, and we still pay over $2,20 a gallon.

But the real big greed is the military industrial contractors. $600.00 for toilet seats.....$500.00 for coffee makers....and that's just the cheap stuff.

Greed is why we have a $17 trillion national debt.

Greed is why most crimes are committed. Most in prison are there because of greed.

Lawyers are greedy. NO money, you're guilty.

Politicians work less than six months a year for over $200,000.00 plus healthcare, paid vacations, free transportation, and full retirement after four years.

Remember all you 20, 30 & 40 somethings, you're gonna be old in the blink of an eye....and you're gonna pay through the wazoo. Promise.

A) Where is your proof Epipen cost $1 to make?
Mylan the maker financials show the net income after cost of goods, depreciation,research and development,all add up to 91% of revenues.
Mylan N.V.
B) Where is your proof US drug costs are 10 times?
1) Average cost to develop ONE DRUG (including failures!!!) $2.6 BILLION! Per drug... and takes 10 years!
http://www.phrma.org/sites/default/files/pdf/2015_phrma_profile.pdf
2) Which Countries Excel in Creating New Drugs? It’s Complicated | Xconomy
New NCEs 194 of which over HALF come from the USA!
View attachment 86768

Right there I've proven WITH FACTS that YOUR subjective, personal stupid comments with NO LINKS are WRONG!!!

I will continue to debunk all but one of your statements WHICH I AGREE WITH!!!
" Lawyers are greedy. NO money, you're guilty."
Now HERE AGAIN are facts to back up YOUR contention about the link between lawyers and $850 BILLION a year wasted in the health care industry!
Question... Why would 90% NON-government contract doctors say they order duplicate tests, refer to specialists? FEAR OF LAWSUITS!
Why would less then half government contract doctors NOT fear lawsuits? 1946 Federal Tort reform Act! that says federal doctors can't be sued!
http://www.jacksonhealthcare.com/media/8968/defensivemedicine_ebook_final.pdf
Get the facts and see where 96% of lawsuits are settled out of court... i.e. rather pay off (pass payments on in the form of higher health insurance premiums!)
Now if Obamacare had taxed lawyers 10% like they do tanning salons as tanning causes cancer, lawyers cause lawsuits which cause doctors to fear and order
duplicate test to the tune of $850 BILLION a year!
So tax lawyers 10% and that $27 billion would pay a $5,000 premium for each of the TRULY 5 million that are truly in need of health insurance!
Here is why there truly was less then 5 million from the phony 46 million that Obama lied about!
A) 10 million of 46 million not LEGAL CITIZENS!
B) 14 million were before Obamacare eligible just didn't know it for Medicaid!
C) 18 million are under 34, make over $50,000 a year and never needed health insurance as they paid out of pocket!
That left 5 million that truly needed and that could be covered so easy by taxing lawyers 10%
So I agree with you the greed of Obama (a lawyer), 47% of Congress (lawyers) never will consider taxing lawyers! Greed!

You left out the fact that the federal government helps fund the R&D of many new drugs, then they pick up the tab and pay the pharmaceutical companies to buy the inflated priced drugs for consumers though healthcare like Medicare etc. don't act like these poor pharm companies are carrying all the burden.

The price of the Epipen just went up 500%. It costs a dollar to make, and big pharma is charging $500.00 to save a child's life.

The cost of all drugs in the U.S. are ten times more than any other country.

Health insurance is high because of greed. Doctors and hospitals are some of the greediest.

And it's not just big pharma, it's big oil too. When oil was $140.00 a barrel, gas cost $4.00 a gallon. Now oil is three times less at $47.00 a barrel, and we still pay over $2,20 a gallon.

But the real big greed is the military industrial contractors. $600.00 for toilet seats.....$500.00 for coffee makers....and that's just the cheap stuff.

Greed is why we have a $17 trillion national debt.

Greed is why most crimes are committed. Most in prison are there because of greed.

Lawyers are greedy. NO money, you're guilty.

Politicians work less than six months a year for over $200,000.00 plus healthcare, paid vacations, free transportation, and full retirement after four years.

Remember all you 20, 30 & 40 somethings, you're gonna be old in the blink of an eye....and you're gonna pay through the wazoo. Promise.

A) Where is your proof Epipen cost $1 to make?
Mylan the maker financials show the net income after cost of goods, depreciation,research and development,all add up to 91% of revenues.
Mylan N.V.
B) Where is your proof US drug costs are 10 times?
1) Average cost to develop ONE DRUG (including failures!!!) $2.6 BILLION! Per drug... and takes 10 years!
http://www.phrma.org/sites/default/files/pdf/2015_phrma_profile.pdf
2) Which Countries Excel in Creating New Drugs? It’s Complicated | Xconomy
New NCEs 194 of which over HALF come from the USA!
View attachment 86768

Right there I've proven WITH FACTS that YOUR subjective, personal stupid comments with NO LINKS are WRONG!!!

I will continue to debunk all but one of your statements WHICH I AGREE WITH!!!
" Lawyers are greedy. NO money, you're guilty."
Now HERE AGAIN are facts to back up YOUR contention about the link between lawyers and $850 BILLION a year wasted in the health care industry!
Question... Why would 90% NON-government contract doctors say they order duplicate tests, refer to specialists? FEAR OF LAWSUITS!
Why would less then half government contract doctors NOT fear lawsuits? 1946 Federal Tort reform Act! that says federal doctors can't be sued!
http://www.jacksonhealthcare.com/media/8968/defensivemedicine_ebook_final.pdf
Get the facts and see where 96% of lawsuits are settled out of court... i.e. rather pay off (pass payments on in the form of higher health insurance premiums!)
Now if Obamacare had taxed lawyers 10% like they do tanning salons as tanning causes cancer, lawyers cause lawsuits which cause doctors to fear and order
duplicate test to the tune of $850 BILLION a year!
So tax lawyers 10% and that $27 billion would pay a $5,000 premium for each of the TRULY 5 million that are truly in need of health insurance!
Here is why there truly was less then 5 million from the phony 46 million that Obama lied about!
A) 10 million of 46 million not LEGAL CITIZENS!
B) 14 million were before Obamacare eligible just didn't know it for Medicaid!
C) 18 million are under 34, make over $50,000 a year and never needed health insurance as they paid out of pocket!
That left 5 million that truly needed and that could be covered so easy by taxing lawyers 10%
So I agree with you the greed of Obama (a lawyer), 47% of Congress (lawyers) never will consider taxing lawyers! Greed!

You left out the fact that the federal government helps fund the R&D of many new drugs, then they pick up the tab and pay the pharmaceutical companies to buy the inflated priced drugs for consumers though healthcare like Medicare etc. don't act like these poor pharm companies are carrying all the burden.

AGAIN FACTS and you didn't show ONE link to substantiate your bogus claims "R&D of MANY NEW DRUGS"

Where are your links, your sources...YOUR FACTS!!!

Check out reality! Taxpayers End Up Funding Drug Companies
The Medicare program alone paid nearly $700 million over a five-year period, to buy a drug the government helped develop.

"I think this system is dysfunctional," said Wyden, who sought the investigation. "How many times should the taxpayer pay again and again?"

NIH argue its mandate is public health — not recouping every dollar it spends. And the agency said that without Bristol-Myers to support large clinical trials, Taxol never would have reached cancer patients.

"We need each other," said Mark L. Rohrbaugh, the director of the Office of Technology Transfer (OTT) at NIH. OTT oversees the patenting and licensing of NIH inventions and helps develop technology transfer policy at NIH and the Department of Health and Human Services.

"They [Bristol-Meyers Squibb] contributed a lot in funds," Rohrbaugh said. "We couldn't do it — neither one of us could do it alone. They contributed a lot of funds, lot of their effort; we did too."

The Institutes' defenders also say that when NIH negotiates a royalty with a pharmaceutical, it never knows which drug will fail and which will be a success. It is a risk for each side.

 

[Tehon]

Not even close, I'm all for private business to handle the majority of commerce, but I'm also for the government keeping them in check.

So, you're all for life, you just think death should be an immediate part of it... Got it.

So you want government to dictate what medicines people can get, and at what price. As I already pointed out, the immediate effect will be the end of advances in medicine. Your greed makes this appealing to you, regardless of consequence - I understand.

You say the state MUST seize drugs to make it more "fair" and ensure that "the poor" get their "fair share," right? I mean the greedy running dog capitalist pigs will sell at the highest price people are willing to pay. I mean, they want a return on the capital they invest. So you will have the state take from those who produce and give to those who do not. Kewl. No doubt people will flock to invest more capital, knowing that the return will be confiscated by the state, right It's human nature to not seek to gain from transactions - only evil capitalists want that.

But say Comrade, if medicine is vital for life, isn't food all that much MORE vital? None of us can live without food. Shouldn't the state "regulate" food and have state food stores to ensure that all people get "their fair share?"

It worked really well in Venezuela, driven by people just like you...

None of us can live without food. Shouldn't the state "regulate" food and have state food stores to ensure that all people get "their fair share?"

Assuming an apple farmer had a monopoly on apples and raised the price of apples 450%.....of course the state should step in.

 

[peabody]

Only a clown would make such a comparison.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a fucking hypocrite - typical Communist.

Johnny Depp is paid by multi-national corporations worth billions of dollars.

Johnny Depp IS a multi-national corporation, stupid fuck. And he is pulling in hundreds of millions. But to you and other Communists, he's not rich because Comrade Soros loves him, and Comrade Soros thinks for you.

EpiPen is being paid for by average people trying to treat severe allergic reactions.

Oh, I get it - so Oprah doesn't get her billions for average people - because you're too fucking stupid to grasp that ticket sales drive her income. Depp doesn't get his billions from average people because you're a hypocritical retard that can't grasp that ticket prices, DVD prices, and Netflix subscriptions feed his greedy maw.



One doesn't HAVE to be a fucking retard to be a leftist.

Oh wait, yes one does.....

Nice try, asshole. I stand behind what I said.

 

[Slade3200]

The price of the Epipen just went up 500%. It costs a dollar to make, and big pharma is charging $500.00 to save a child's life.

The cost of all drugs in the U.S. are ten times more than any other country.

Health insurance is high because of greed. Doctors and hospitals are some of the greediest.

And it's not just big pharma, it's big oil too. When oil was $140.00 a barrel, gas cost $4.00 a gallon. Now oil is three times less at $47.00 a barrel, and we still pay over $2,20 a gallon.

But the real big greed is the military industrial contractors. $600.00 for toilet seats.....$500.00 for coffee makers....and that's just the cheap stuff.

Greed is why we have a $17 trillion national debt.

Greed is why most crimes are committed. Most in prison are there because of greed.

Lawyers are greedy. NO money, you're guilty.

Politicians work less than six months a year for over $200,000.00 plus healthcare, paid vacations, free transportation, and full retirement after four years.

Remember all you 20, 30 & 40 somethings, you're gonna be old in the blink of an eye....and you're gonna pay through the wazoo. Promise.

A) Where is your proof Epipen cost $1 to make?
Mylan the maker financials show the net income after cost of goods, depreciation,research and development,all add up to 91% of revenues.
Mylan N.V.
B) Where is your proof US drug costs are 10 times?
1) Average cost to develop ONE DRUG (including failures!!!) $2.6 BILLION! Per drug... and takes 10 years!
http://www.phrma.org/sites/default/files/pdf/2015_phrma_profile.pdf
2) Which Countries Excel in Creating New Drugs? It’s Complicated | Xconomy
New NCEs 194 of which over HALF come from the USA!
View attachment 86768

Right there I've proven WITH FACTS that YOUR subjective, personal stupid comments with NO LINKS are WRONG!!!

I will continue to debunk all but one of your statements WHICH I AGREE WITH!!!
" Lawyers are greedy. NO money, you're guilty."
Now HERE AGAIN are facts to back up YOUR contention about the link between lawyers and $850 BILLION a year wasted in the health care industry!
Question... Why would 90% NON-government contract doctors say they order duplicate tests, refer to specialists? FEAR OF LAWSUITS!
Why would less then half government contract doctors NOT fear lawsuits? 1946 Federal Tort reform Act! that says federal doctors can't be sued!
http://www.jacksonhealthcare.com/media/8968/defensivemedicine_ebook_final.pdf
Get the facts and see where 96% of lawsuits are settled out of court... i.e. rather pay off (pass payments on in the form of higher health insurance premiums!)
Now if Obamacare had taxed lawyers 10% like they do tanning salons as tanning causes cancer, lawyers cause lawsuits which cause doctors to fear and order
duplicate test to the tune of $850 BILLION a year!
So tax lawyers 10% and that $27 billion would pay a $5,000 premium for each of the TRULY 5 million that are truly in need of health insurance!
Here is why there truly was less then 5 million from the phony 46 million that Obama lied about!
A) 10 million of 46 million not LEGAL CITIZENS!
B) 14 million were before Obamacare eligible just didn't know it for Medicaid!
C) 18 million are under 34, make over $50,000 a year and never needed health insurance as they paid out of pocket!
That left 5 million that truly needed and that could be covered so easy by taxing lawyers 10%
So I agree with you the greed of Obama (a lawyer), 47% of Congress (lawyers) never will consider taxing lawyers! Greed!

You left out the fact that the federal government helps fund the R&D of many new drugs, then they pick up the tab and pay the pharmaceutical companies to buy the inflated priced drugs for consumers though healthcare like Medicare etc. don't act like these poor pharm companies are carrying all the burden.

The price of the Epipen just went up 500%. It costs a dollar to make, and big pharma is charging $500.00 to save a child's life.

The cost of all drugs in the U.S. are ten times more than any other country.

Health insurance is high because of greed. Doctors and hospitals are some of the greediest.

And it's not just big pharma, it's big oil too. When oil was $140.00 a barrel, gas cost $4.00 a gallon. Now oil is three times less at $47.00 a barrel, and we still pay over $2,20 a gallon.

But the real big greed is the military industrial contractors. $600.00 for toilet seats.....$500.00 for coffee makers....and that's just the cheap stuff.

Greed is why we have a $17 trillion national debt.

Greed is why most crimes are committed. Most in prison are there because of greed.

Lawyers are greedy. NO money, you're guilty.

Politicians work less than six months a year for over $200,000.00 plus healthcare, paid vacations, free transportation, and full retirement after four years.

Remember all you 20, 30 & 40 somethings, you're gonna be old in the blink of an eye....and you're gonna pay through the wazoo. Promise.

A) Where is your proof Epipen cost $1 to make?
Mylan the maker financials show the net income after cost of goods, depreciation,research and development,all add up to 91% of revenues.
Mylan N.V.
B) Where is your proof US drug costs are 10 times?
1) Average cost to develop ONE DRUG (including failures!!!) $2.6 BILLION! Per drug... and takes 10 years!
http://www.phrma.org/sites/default/files/pdf/2015_phrma_profile.pdf
2) Which Countries Excel in Creating New Drugs? It’s Complicated | Xconomy
New NCEs 194 of which over HALF come from the USA!
View attachment 86768

Right there I've proven WITH FACTS that YOUR subjective, personal stupid comments with NO LINKS are WRONG!!!

I will continue to debunk all but one of your statements WHICH I AGREE WITH!!!
" Lawyers are greedy. NO money, you're guilty."
Now HERE AGAIN are facts to back up YOUR contention about the link between lawyers and $850 BILLION a year wasted in the health care industry!
Question... Why would 90% NON-government contract doctors say they order duplicate tests, refer to specialists? FEAR OF LAWSUITS!
Why would less then half government contract doctors NOT fear lawsuits? 1946 Federal Tort reform Act! that says federal doctors can't be sued!
http://www.jacksonhealthcare.com/media/8968/defensivemedicine_ebook_final.pdf
Get the facts and see where 96% of lawsuits are settled out of court... i.e. rather pay off (pass payments on in the form of higher health insurance premiums!)
Now if Obamacare had taxed lawyers 10% like they do tanning salons as tanning causes cancer, lawyers cause lawsuits which cause doctors to fear and order
duplicate test to the tune of $850 BILLION a year!
So tax lawyers 10% and that $27 billion would pay a $5,000 premium for each of the TRULY 5 million that are truly in need of health insurance!
Here is why there truly was less then 5 million from the phony 46 million that Obama lied about!
A) 10 million of 46 million not LEGAL CITIZENS!
B) 14 million were before Obamacare eligible just didn't know it for Medicaid!
C) 18 million are under 34, make over $50,000 a year and never needed health insurance as they paid out of pocket!
That left 5 million that truly needed and that could be covered so easy by taxing lawyers 10%
So I agree with you the greed of Obama (a lawyer), 47% of Congress (lawyers) never will consider taxing lawyers! Greed!

You left out the fact that the federal government helps fund the R&D of many new drugs, then they pick up the tab and pay the pharmaceutical companies to buy the inflated priced drugs for consumers though healthcare like Medicare etc. don't act like these poor pharm companies are carrying all the burden.

AGAIN FACTS and you didn't show ONE link to substantiate your bogus claims "R&D of MANY NEW DRUGS"

Where are your links, your sources...YOUR FACTS!!!

Check out reality! Taxpayers End Up Funding Drug Companies
The Medicare program alone paid nearly $700 million over a five-year period, to buy a drug the government helped develop.

"I think this system is dysfunctional," said Wyden, who sought the investigation. "How many times should the taxpayer pay again and again?"

NIH argue its mandate is public health — not recouping every dollar it spends. And the agency said that without Bristol-Myers to support large clinical trials, Taxol never would have reached cancer patients.

"We need each other," said Mark L. Rohrbaugh, the director of the Office of Technology Transfer (OTT) at NIH. OTT oversees the patenting and licensing of NIH inventions and helps develop technology transfer policy at NIH and the Department of Health and Human Services.

"They [Bristol-Meyers Squibb] contributed a lot in funds," Rohrbaugh said. "We couldn't do it — neither one of us could do it alone. They contributed a lot of funds, lot of their effort; we did too."

The Institutes' defenders also say that when NIH negotiates a royalty with a pharmaceutical, it never knows which drug will fail and which will be a success. It is a risk for each side.

Didn't think I needed a link as it is pretty common knowledge, plus you just said the same thing that I did. The Feds fund R&D for the drug companies then pay for the drugs even though they are overinflated in price as part of the heathcare that they provide for many of our citizens.

Taxpayers End Up Funding Drug Companies

 

[Slade3200]

Not even close, I'm all for private business to handle the majority of commerce, but I'm also for the government keeping them in check.

So, you're all for life, you just think death should be an immediate part of it... Got it.

So you want government to dictate what medicines people can get, and at what price. As I already pointed out, the immediate effect will be the end of advances in medicine. Your greed makes this appealing to you, regardless of consequence - I understand.

You say the state MUST seize drugs to make it more "fair" and ensure that "the poor" get their "fair share," right? I mean the greedy running dog capitalist pigs will sell at the highest price people are willing to pay. I mean, they want a return on the capital they invest. So you will have the state take from those who produce and give to those who do not. Kewl. No doubt people will flock to invest more capital, knowing that the return will be confiscated by the state, right It's human nature to not seek to gain from transactions - only evil capitalists want that.

But say Comrade, if medicine is vital for life, isn't food all that much MORE vital? None of us can live without food. Shouldn't the state "regulate" food and have state food stores to ensure that all people get "their fair share?"

It worked really well in Venezuela, driven by people just like you...

None of us can live without food. Shouldn't the state "regulate" food and have state food stores to ensure that all people get "their fair share?"

Assuming an apple farmer had a monopoly on apples and raised the price of apples 450%.....of course the state should step in.

Yes, the Feds should make sure that the food quality sold to our citizens is healthy. They should make sure large companies like Monsanto doesn't monopolize the farming industry and squeeze out farmers (currently a huge problem), and if food suppliers unjustly jacked up the price of milk to $20 a carton then yes I would hope the government would step in... Wouldn't you?

If people are starving on the streets and without food, I am all for there being shelters and services to make sure they don't die of hunger... Don't you?

 

[bripat9643]

EpiPen can go to hell. My friend has a shellfish allergy that leads to an anaphylactic reaction... Her throat closes up. She can't afford to buy an EpiPen and her insurance doesn't cover it. Further more they expire after a year so she would have to drop $600 for a pen that expires and needs to get tossed after only a year. Instead she doesn't have one and takes a risk every time she eats out. In the mean time the EpiPen execs and laughing their way to the bank

Mylan executives gave themselves raises as they hiked EpiPen prices

The patent on the drug in an epi pen and the mechanism itself should have run out a long time ago. All the FDA has to do is promise fast track approval for anyone who wants to make an equivalent product, and the manufacturer's hold on the market would wither away.

Yes, the company is greedy, but government regulations that make it next to impossible to field an equal product shares part of the blame. It's what creates the bottleneck in the first place.

If the patent has expired, then it shouldn't be that expensive. Making generic versions of formerly patented drugs is big business. The generic version normally costs less than 1/10th of the patented drug.

However, drug makers play tricks to maintain their patents. For example, they will combine two drugs that have expired patents that are often taken in combination and patent the combination. That might cost the patient $300/mo. However, if the doctor isn't a moron, he can simply prescribe the two drugs separately, and then it costs the patient $30.