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But it isn't going to happen is it?
Capitalism seen doing 'more harm than good' in global survey
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But it isn't going to happen is it?
bripat9643
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The true sign of an idiot is claiming that Venezuela's problems aren't the result of socialism. It was swirling down the toilet long before the US placed any sanctions on it. Nothing is stopping it from selling its oil to other countries or from borrowing money from private banks aside from its own stupid decisions.It rules the world, but somehow dumb cons can’t see it.That's the cost of no capitalism, shit for brains. Those problems occur in countries that don't have capitalism, or that haven't had it for very long.If you're defining "extreme poverty" as those living on less than $1.25 a day, capitalism still consigns millions of human to an early grave.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-died-because-of-capitalism
"'If we want to stick with a single international line, we might use the 'ethical poverty line' devised by Peter Edward of Newcastle University.
"He calculates that in order to achieve normal human life expectancy of just over 70 years, people need roughly 2.7 to 3.9 times the existing poverty line.
"In the past, that was $5 a day.
"Using the World banks new calculations, its about $7.40 a day.
"As it happens, this number is close to the average of national poverty lines in the global south.
"So, what would happen if we were to measure global poverty at this more accurate level? We would see that about 4.2 billion people live in poverty today. That’s more than four times what the World Bank would have us believe, and more than 60% of humanity.
"And the number has risen sharply since 1980, with nearly 1 billion people added to the ranks of the poor over the past 35 years.
https://www.quora.com/Did-capitalis...pitalist-socialist-or-communist-less-relevant
"The UN’s sustainable development goals, launched in September, are set to use the $1.90 line to measure poverty.
"Why do they persist with this implausibly low threshold?
"Because it’s the only one that shows any meaningful progress against poverty, and therefore lends a kind of happy justification to the existing economic order' (Hickel 2015)."Care to name a few countries that capitalism doesn't affect?
Venezuela is a good example. Dumb cons think it’s economy is failing because of socialism. Somehow they fail to see the enormous impact of the Empire’s long running sanctions and covert efforts to harm the country economically.
gipper
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See?The true sign of an idiot is claiming that Venezuela's problems aren't the result of socialism. It was swirling down the toilet long before the US placed any sanctions on it. Nothing is stopping it from selling its oil to other countries or from borrowing money from private banks aside from its own stupid decisions.It rules the world, but somehow dumb cons can’t see it.That's the cost of no capitalism, shit for brains. Those problems occur in countries that don't have capitalism, or that haven't had it for very long.If you're defining "extreme poverty" as those living on less than $1.25 a day, capitalism still consigns millions of human to an early grave.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-died-because-of-capitalism
"'If we want to stick with a single international line, we might use the 'ethical poverty line' devised by Peter Edward of Newcastle University.
"He calculates that in order to achieve normal human life expectancy of just over 70 years, people need roughly 2.7 to 3.9 times the existing poverty line.
"In the past, that was $5 a day.
"Using the World banks new calculations, its about $7.40 a day.
"As it happens, this number is close to the average of national poverty lines in the global south.
"So, what would happen if we were to measure global poverty at this more accurate level? We would see that about 4.2 billion people live in poverty today. That’s more than four times what the World Bank would have us believe, and more than 60% of humanity.
"And the number has risen sharply since 1980, with nearly 1 billion people added to the ranks of the poor over the past 35 years.
https://www.quora.com/Did-capitalis...pitalist-socialist-or-communist-less-relevant
"The UN’s sustainable development goals, launched in September, are set to use the $1.90 line to measure poverty.
"Why do they persist with this implausibly low threshold?
"Because it’s the only one that shows any meaningful progress against poverty, and therefore lends a kind of happy justification to the existing economic order' (Hickel 2015)."Care to name a few countries that capitalism doesn't affect?
Venezuela is a good example. Dumb cons think it’s economy is failing because of socialism. Somehow they fail to see the enormous impact of the Empire’s long running sanctions and covert efforts to harm the country economically.
pknopp
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Of course it is.
georgephillip
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What’s truly amazing is the billionaires like Bezos, Buffet, FB Dork and others could easily put and end to this, but they don’t. They must be psychopaths.If you're defining "extreme poverty" as those living on less than $1.25 a day, capitalism still consigns millions of human to an early grave.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-died-because-of-capitalism
"'If we want to stick with a single international line, we might use the 'ethical poverty line' devised by Peter Edward of Newcastle University.
"He calculates that in order to achieve normal human life expectancy of just over 70 years, people need roughly 2.7 to 3.9 times the existing poverty line.
"In the past, that was $5 a day.
"Using the World banks new calculations, its about $7.40 a day.
"As it happens, this number is close to the average of national poverty lines in the global south.
"So, what would happen if we were to measure global poverty at this more accurate level? We would see that about 4.2 billion people live in poverty today. That’s more than four times what the World Bank would have us believe, and more than 60% of humanity.
"And the number has risen sharply since 1980, with nearly 1 billion people added to the ranks of the poor over the past 35 years.
https://www.quora.com/Did-capitalis...pitalist-socialist-or-communist-less-relevant
"The UN’s sustainable development goals, launched in September, are set to use the $1.90 line to measure poverty.
"Why do they persist with this implausibly low threshold?
"Because it’s the only one that shows any meaningful progress against poverty, and therefore lends a kind of happy justification to the existing economic order' (Hickel 2015)."
They are surrounded by enablers telling them they are worth billion$ because of their genius and initiative in spite of the obvious fact they perform a small fraction of the daily labor required to produce their fortunes.
Capitalism provides the common law justifications for their greed, and their philanthropy provides a fig-leaf of morality.
I suspect it is a primal psychosis that will destroy the specie if not exterminated?
bripat9643
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Yes, I do see that you self identified as an idiot.See?The true sign of an idiot is claiming that Venezuela's problems aren't the result of socialism. It was swirling down the toilet long before the US placed any sanctions on it. Nothing is stopping it from selling its oil to other countries or from borrowing money from private banks aside from its own stupid decisions.It rules the world, but somehow dumb cons can’t see it.That's the cost of no capitalism, shit for brains. Those problems occur in countries that don't have capitalism, or that haven't had it for very long.If you're defining "extreme poverty" as those living on less than $1.25 a day, capitalism still consigns millions of human to an early grave.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-died-because-of-capitalism
"'If we want to stick with a single international line, we might use the 'ethical poverty line' devised by Peter Edward of Newcastle University.
"He calculates that in order to achieve normal human life expectancy of just over 70 years, people need roughly 2.7 to 3.9 times the existing poverty line.
"In the past, that was $5 a day.
"Using the World banks new calculations, its about $7.40 a day.
"As it happens, this number is close to the average of national poverty lines in the global south.
"So, what would happen if we were to measure global poverty at this more accurate level? We would see that about 4.2 billion people live in poverty today. That’s more than four times what the World Bank would have us believe, and more than 60% of humanity.
"And the number has risen sharply since 1980, with nearly 1 billion people added to the ranks of the poor over the past 35 years.
https://www.quora.com/Did-capitalis...pitalist-socialist-or-communist-less-relevant
"The UN’s sustainable development goals, launched in September, are set to use the $1.90 line to measure poverty.
"Why do they persist with this implausibly low threshold?
"Because it’s the only one that shows any meaningful progress against poverty, and therefore lends a kind of happy justification to the existing economic order' (Hickel 2015)."Care to name a few countries that capitalism doesn't affect?
Venezuela is a good example. Dumb cons think it’s economy is failing because of socialism. Somehow they fail to see the enormous impact of the Empire’s long running sanctions and covert efforts to harm the country economically.
gipper
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They have to be mentally ill. They see all this human suffering yet they do next to nothing about, but they have the wealth that could help millions out of poverty.What’s truly amazing is the billionaires like Bezos, Buffet, FB Dork and others could easily put and end to this, but they don’t. They must be psychopaths.If you're defining "extreme poverty" as those living on less than $1.25 a day, capitalism still consigns millions of human to an early grave.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-died-because-of-capitalism
"'If we want to stick with a single international line, we might use the 'ethical poverty line' devised by Peter Edward of Newcastle University.
"He calculates that in order to achieve normal human life expectancy of just over 70 years, people need roughly 2.7 to 3.9 times the existing poverty line.
"In the past, that was $5 a day.
"Using the World banks new calculations, its about $7.40 a day.
"As it happens, this number is close to the average of national poverty lines in the global south.
"So, what would happen if we were to measure global poverty at this more accurate level? We would see that about 4.2 billion people live in poverty today. That’s more than four times what the World Bank would have us believe, and more than 60% of humanity.
"And the number has risen sharply since 1980, with nearly 1 billion people added to the ranks of the poor over the past 35 years.
https://www.quora.com/Did-capitalis...pitalist-socialist-or-communist-less-relevant
"The UN’s sustainable development goals, launched in September, are set to use the $1.90 line to measure poverty.
"Why do they persist with this implausibly low threshold?
"Because it’s the only one that shows any meaningful progress against poverty, and therefore lends a kind of happy justification to the existing economic order' (Hickel 2015)."They are surrounded by enablers telling them they are worth billion$ because of their genius and initiative in spite of the obvious fact they perform a small fraction of the daily labor required to produce their fortunes.
Capitalism provides the common law justifications for their greed, and their philanthropy provides a fig-leaf of morality.
I suspect it is a primal psychosis that will destroy the specie if not exterminated?
They must be really sick fuckers.
bripat9643
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Their wealth is all tied up in plant and equipment, moron. If they spent it all on handouts to the poor, they would destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs for Americans.They have to be mentally ill. They see all this human suffering yet they do next to nothing about, but they have the wealth that could help millions out of poverty.What’s truly amazing is the billionaires like Bezos, Buffet, FB Dork and others could easily put and end to this, but they don’t. They must be psychopaths.If you're defining "extreme poverty" as those living on less than $1.25 a day, capitalism still consigns millions of human to an early grave.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-died-because-of-capitalism
"'If we want to stick with a single international line, we might use the 'ethical poverty line' devised by Peter Edward of Newcastle University.
"He calculates that in order to achieve normal human life expectancy of just over 70 years, people need roughly 2.7 to 3.9 times the existing poverty line.
"In the past, that was $5 a day.
"Using the World banks new calculations, its about $7.40 a day.
"As it happens, this number is close to the average of national poverty lines in the global south.
"So, what would happen if we were to measure global poverty at this more accurate level? We would see that about 4.2 billion people live in poverty today. That’s more than four times what the World Bank would have us believe, and more than 60% of humanity.
"And the number has risen sharply since 1980, with nearly 1 billion people added to the ranks of the poor over the past 35 years.
https://www.quora.com/Did-capitalis...pitalist-socialist-or-communist-less-relevant
"The UN’s sustainable development goals, launched in September, are set to use the $1.90 line to measure poverty.
"Why do they persist with this implausibly low threshold?
"Because it’s the only one that shows any meaningful progress against poverty, and therefore lends a kind of happy justification to the existing economic order' (Hickel 2015)."They are surrounded by enablers telling them they are worth billion$ because of their genius and initiative in spite of the obvious fact they perform a small fraction of the daily labor required to produce their fortunes.
Capitalism provides the common law justifications for their greed, and their philanthropy provides a fig-leaf of morality.
I suspect it is a primal psychosis that will destroy the specie if not exterminated?
They must be really sick fuckers.
bripat9643
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You could alleviate a lot of human suffering by donating 90% of your income to the U.N. Why don't you do it? Are you mentally ill?They have to be mentally ill. They see all this human suffering yet they do next to nothing about, but they have the wealth that could help millions out of poverty.What’s truly amazing is the billionaires like Bezos, Buffet, FB Dork and others could easily put and end to this, but they don’t. They must be psychopaths.If you're defining "extreme poverty" as those living on less than $1.25 a day, capitalism still consigns millions of human to an early grave.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-died-because-of-capitalism
"'If we want to stick with a single international line, we might use the 'ethical poverty line' devised by Peter Edward of Newcastle University.
"He calculates that in order to achieve normal human life expectancy of just over 70 years, people need roughly 2.7 to 3.9 times the existing poverty line.
"In the past, that was $5 a day.
"Using the World banks new calculations, its about $7.40 a day.
"As it happens, this number is close to the average of national poverty lines in the global south.
"So, what would happen if we were to measure global poverty at this more accurate level? We would see that about 4.2 billion people live in poverty today. That’s more than four times what the World Bank would have us believe, and more than 60% of humanity.
"And the number has risen sharply since 1980, with nearly 1 billion people added to the ranks of the poor over the past 35 years.
https://www.quora.com/Did-capitalis...pitalist-socialist-or-communist-less-relevant
"The UN’s sustainable development goals, launched in September, are set to use the $1.90 line to measure poverty.
"Why do they persist with this implausibly low threshold?
"Because it’s the only one that shows any meaningful progress against poverty, and therefore lends a kind of happy justification to the existing economic order' (Hickel 2015)."They are surrounded by enablers telling them they are worth billion$ because of their genius and initiative in spite of the obvious fact they perform a small fraction of the daily labor required to produce their fortunes.
Capitalism provides the common law justifications for their greed, and their philanthropy provides a fig-leaf of morality.
I suspect it is a primal psychosis that will destroy the specie if not exterminated?
They must be really sick fuckers.
Markle
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Specifically, who are the monopolies and how are they being protected?
gipper
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Big Pharma, Big Oil, MIC - war profiteers, Big Tech, Big Banks. Yes?
Markle
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Are you really saying that the billionaires should join together and end capitalism?
Markle
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You misunderstood me. I said monopolies. Each of those categories has dozens of competitors. Please try again.
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Markle
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Please tell us your kidding because I can't imagine any sort of rational person making such a statement.
gipper
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I just admitted to being a dummy. Why would you do that for the whole world to see?
gipper
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You used the term monopolies. Why?
georgephillip
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Capitalism has had positive effects on generating wealth everywhere its been tried, but it has failed miserably at distributing the wealth in an equitable manner:
Capitalism seen doing 'more harm than good' in global survey
"The poll contacted over 34,000 people in 28 countries, from Western liberal democracies like the United States and France to those based on a different model such as China and Russia, with 56% agreeing that 'capitalism as it exists today does more harm than good in the world'"
What net positive effects has capitalism had on Afghanistan and Iraq over the past generation?
georgephillip
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Capitalism uses corporations to drive its wealth generation, and most conservatives are blind to the feudal roots of that relationship:
http://www.marjoriekelly.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Vol15No34TheCorporationasFeudalEstate.pdf
"Like a feudal estate) a corporation is considered a piece of property) not a human community) so it can be owned and sold by the propertied class.
"Stockholders are 'owners' of corporations, we're often told-that's why their interests are paramount.
"It's why they alone have a vote for the board of directors, and why maximizing their returns is the purpose of the corporation.
"It's a kind of magical incantation, 'own.'
"It's deceptively small, and might be worth unpacking.
"Because stockholders 'own' corporations, implicitly: 1) the corporation is an object that can be owned; 2) stockholders are sole masters of that object; 3) they can do as they like with 'their' object."
georgephillip
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I don't believe that Venezuela ever nationalized its banks.
I do believe John Bolton best explained the reasons behind the conflict:
"John Bolton doesn’t serve up any mush about 'democracy ' or 'human rights' in selling the U.S. war against Venezuela.
"Trump’s national security advisor told the Fox Business Network on Jan. 24 the real reason for the hostilities:
"'It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies really invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela.'
"In other words, it’s all about oil profits."
John Bolton and the Monroe Doctrine
gipper
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The petrodollar rules. The oligarchy is prepared to kill untold numbers of people to continue it’s rule.I don't believe that Venezuela ever nationalized its banks.
I do believe John Bolton best explained the reasons behind the conflict:
"John Bolton doesn’t serve up any mush about 'democracy ' or 'human rights' in selling the U.S. war against Venezuela.
"Trump’s national security advisor told the Fox Business Network on Jan. 24 the real reason for the hostilities:
"'It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies really invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela.'
"In other words, it’s all about oil profits."
John Bolton and the Monroe Doctrine
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