Capitalism is NOT Democratic: Democracy is NOT Capitalist

[georgephillip]

"In 2000, economist Robert S. Browne calculated that the income produced by enslaved people for their White owners prior to 1860 was between $1.4 trillion and $4.7 trillion in modern money.

And then we broke and burned all their stuff.

But we forgot to hang them.

 

[georgephillip]

"In 1865, at the conclusion of the Civil War that ended slavery, freed slaves were promised 40 acres (16 hectares) of land to build an economic future for themselves.

No they weren't.

"We have been taught in school that the source of the policy of '40 acres and a mule' was Union General William T. Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15, issued on Jan. 16, 1865. (That account is half-right:

"Sherman prescribed the 40 acres in that Order, but not the mule.

"The mule would come later.)

"But what many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah, Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the Sea.

"The meeting was unprecedented in American history."

The Truth Behind '40 Acres and a Mule' | African American History Blog | The African Americans: Many Rivers to Cross

 

[georgephillip]

Thanks. Nobody offered them 40 acres.
Glad you finally learned something.

Your ignorance is impressive.
Maybe you should read more?

 

[georgephillip]

That was 90 years ago, turd.

Thanks for proving more than four generations of systemic racism has resulted in...

The Historical Reasons Behind the U.S. Racial Wealth Gap

"The average White household in the U.S. today has amassed about seven times more wealth than the average Black household.

"The disparity widened in the half-century since the civil rights movement, despite a wave of laws protecting against racial discrimination at work, in housing and other economic realms.

"A wave of protests in U.S. cities last year provoked by police killings of Black citizens, including George Floyd on May 25, raised awareness of the history of what academics call systemic racism."

 

[bripat9643]

How many socialists earned a profit from the transatlantic slave trade or WWI?

So you believe the men digging for gold in the Gulags were free men?

 

[bripat9643]

Thanks for proving more than four generations of systemic racism has resulted in...

The Historical Reasons Behind the U.S. Racial Wealth Gap

"The average White household in the U.S. today has amassed about seven times more wealth than the average Black household.

"The disparity widened in the half-century since the civil rights movement, despite a wave of laws protecting against racial discrimination at work, in housing and other economic realms.

"A wave of protests in U.S. cities last year provoked by police killings of Black citizens, including George Floyd on May 25, raised awareness of the history of what academics call systemic racism."

"Systematic racism" is a term meaning racism that prog idiots like you can't possibly prove.

 

[bripat9643]

But we forgot to hang them.

hang them for what, following the law?

There is no way the government could have ever getoon a jury of 12 men to convict any Southerner, moron.

All you proved, once again, is that you're a NAZI moron.

 

[bripat9643]

"We have been taught in school that the source of the policy of '40 acres and a mule' was Union General William T. Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15, issued on Jan. 16, 1865. (That account is half-right:

"Sherman prescribed the 40 acres in that Order, but not the mule.

"The mule would come later.)

"But what many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah, Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the Sea.

"The meeting was unprecedented in American history."

The Truth Behind '40 Acres and a Mule' | African American History Blog | The African Americans: Many Rivers to Cross

They were all too stupid to understand that their plan violated the Constitution. Of course, the entire war violated the Constitution.

 

[georgephillip]

It benefits most everyone in our society whether you know it or not.

If it's true the owners of the means of production number around 2% of Americans, giving that small minority the power to decide what to produce, where to produce it, and how to distribute any surplus does not benefit society as a whole.

Total Household Debt Climbs to Over $15 Trillion in Q3 2021, Driven by New Extensions of Credit - FEDERAL RESERVE BANK of NEW YORK

 

[bripat9643]

If it's true the owners of the means of production number around 2% of Americans, giving that small minority the power to decide what to produce, where to produce it, and how to distribute any surplus does not benefit society as a whole.

Total Household Debt Climbs to Over $15 Trillion in Q3 2021, Driven by New Extensions of Credit - FEDERAL RESERVE BANK of NEW YORK

Anyone who has a pension plan or a 401K is one of the owners of the means of production, asshole. Buying stock in the company is what gives them the right. I fail to see how you acquired any right to interfere in those decisions, and I thank god you don't have such a right.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"We have been taught in school that the source of the policy of '40 acres and a mule' was Union General William T. Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15, issued on Jan. 16, 1865. (That account is half-right:

"Sherman prescribed the 40 acres in that Order, but not the mule.

"The mule would come later.)

"But what many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah, Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the Sea.

"The meeting was unprecedented in American history."

The Truth Behind '40 Acres and a Mule' | African American History Blog | The African Americans: Many Rivers to Cross

"But what many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah, Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the Sea.

How many votes did the "idea" get in the House and Senate? When did the President sign it?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Thanks for proving more than four generations of systemic racism has resulted in...

The Historical Reasons Behind the U.S. Racial Wealth Gap

"The average White household in the U.S. today has amassed about seven times more wealth than the average Black household.

"The disparity widened in the half-century since the civil rights movement, despite a wave of laws protecting against racial discrimination at work, in housing and other economic realms.

"A wave of protests in U.S. cities last year provoked by police killings of Black citizens, including George Floyd on May 25, raised awareness of the history of what academics call systemic racism."

"The average White household in the U.S. today has amassed about seven times more wealth than the average Black household.

Stay in school. Get married before you have kids. Don't commit crime.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If it's true the owners of the means of production number around 2% of Americans, giving that small minority the power to decide what to produce, where to produce it, and how to distribute any surplus does not benefit society as a whole.

Total Household Debt Climbs to Over $15 Trillion in Q3 2021, Driven by New Extensions of Credit - FEDERAL RESERVE BANK of NEW YORK

You were just whining that blacks don't have enough mortgages, now you're whining that whites have too many? LOL!

 

[jc456]

How many socialists earned a profit from the transatlantic slave trade or WWI?

Just a real quick answer, ask the blacks in South Africa. Now, where would blacks be if they never left South Africa back then? Just curious why you feel the need to intervene without their permission

 

[jc456]

But we forgot to hang them.

The kkk took care of that, your party

 

[tahuyaman]

It benefits most everyone in our soc

It benefits most everyone in our society whether you know it or not.

It's hard for me to understand how an economic system dedicated to maximizing profit for a relative handful of society can be compatible with a political system allegedly based on one person/one vote?

https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/fil...-_is_capitalism_compatible_with_democracy.pdf

"Capitalism and democracy follow different logics: unequally distributed property rights on the one hand, equal civic and political rights on the other; profit-oriented trade within capitalism in contrast to the search for the common good within democracy; debate, compromise and majority decision-making within democratic politics versus hierarchical decision-making by managers and capital owners."

Whether you agree or not is irrelevant Capitalism provides a benefit to every American even if they don't realize it.

 

[georgephillip]

Those handful of people you blubber about create the vast wealth that we enjoy. Government creates nothing.

Amazon had approximately 800,000 employees in 2019. How much of the vast wealth we enjoy was due to their labor compared to Jeff the Parasite?

Then there's the exploitation...

 

[dblack]

How many socialists earned a profit from the transatlantic slave trade or WWI?

328,845

 

[bripat9643]

Amazon had approximately 800,000 employees in 2019. How much of the vast wealth we enjoy was due to their labor compared to Jeff the Parasite?

Then there's the exploitation...

Amazon wouldn't exist without Jeff Bezos. None of those 800,000 people would have a job without him. He probably deserves more than $200 billion.

 

[jc456]

Amazon had approximately 800,000 employees in 2019. How much of the vast wealth we enjoy was due to their labor compared to Jeff the Parasite?

Then there's the exploitation...

How did employees get exploited? They in chains? Have an inability to quit?