Cantor pulls out of Biden debt talks

[Steelplate]

Make up your mind. Either taxes pay for abortions or they don't.

Ok... let's play word games now... I HELP pay for Planned Parenthood through my taxes.


BTW Gunslinger.... check this out... perhaps Fox News is lying...

Planned Parenthood | FactCheck.org

From your own link:

Planned Parenthood’s 2008-2009 annual report states that it received $363.2 million in "Government Grants and Contracts.

Where are the figures for 2010 and 2011? Hmmm?? Run along and get them.

**** you.... You are the one giving the assertion that our money is paying for abortions. How about You do the legwork and PROVE it with unbiased sources.

 

[Greenbeard]

Got a source that disproves her cited case? Don't think so. That makes you the one with zip.

Here you go. Same rules as the Hyde Amendment ("The PCIP program is Federally-created, funded, and administered (whether directly or through contract); it is a temporary Federal insurance program in which the risk is borne by the Federal government up to a fixed appropriation. As such, the services covered by the PCIP program shall not include abortion services except in the case of rape or incest, or where the life of the woman would be endangered.")

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Ok... let's play word games now... I HELP pay for Planned Parenthood through my taxes.


BTW Gunslinger.... check this out... perhaps Fox News is lying...

Planned Parenthood | FactCheck.org

From your own link:

Planned Parenthood’s 2008-2009 annual report states that it received $363.2 million in "Government Grants and Contracts.

Where are the figures for 2010 and 2011? Hmmm?? Run along and get them.

**** you.... You are the one giving the assertion that our money is paying for abortions. How about You do the legwork and PROVE it with unbiased sources.

Poor thing.. I've already provided the links and facts.. we're all waiting for you to show your own Meathead. LOL

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Perry also faulted Obama for reversing the so-called "Mexico City policy" that banned giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide information about abortions. Obama struck down the policy during his first week in office, saying it was too broad and undermined family planning in developing countries.

Under Obama "our federal tax dollars can now be used to fund abortion all over the world. With the stroke of a pen, abortion essentially became a U.S. foreign export," Perry said.


Texas' Perry assails Obama on abortion at LA stop - Yahoo! News

 

[saveliberty]

Press Releases

The Pennsylvania Senate approved Senate Bill 3 on a 37-12 vote that lawmakers described as a common sense piece of legislation which would ensure that Pennsylvania is not forced into the abortion business as a result of so-called health care reform. The legislation now goes to the state House for consideration.

Senate floor later, Sen. Larry Farnese, D-Philadelphia, criticized the bill saying it would make it harder for women to get abortions.

“This is not a new or radical step for Pennsylvania, but rather an extension of the restrictions we already have in place for (Medicaid) and other taxpayer-subsidized programs,” countered the bill’s sponsor, Sen. Don White, R-Indiana.

Pennsylvania Senate OKs Cutting Obamacare Abortion Funding | LifeNews.com

Care to explain why the Pennsylvania Senate has a bill to exclude abortions?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Great article in the Washington Times exposing the Abortion President and his attempt to bypass Hyde:

MILLER: Obama's abortion extortion - Washington Times

 

[saveliberty]

Somewhere steelplate is breathing loudly through his mouth as the reality of being totally wrong sinks in.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Press Releases

The Pennsylvania Senate approved Senate Bill 3 on a 37-12 vote that lawmakers described as a common sense piece of legislation which would ensure that Pennsylvania is not forced into the abortion business as a result of so-called health care reform. The legislation now goes to the state House for consideration.

Senate floor later, Sen. Larry Farnese, D-Philadelphia, criticized the bill saying it would make it harder for women to get abortions.

“This is not a new or radical step for Pennsylvania, but rather an extension of the restrictions we already have in place for (Medicaid) and other taxpayer-subsidized programs,” countered the bill’s sponsor, Sen. Don White, R-Indiana.

Pennsylvania Senate OKs Cutting Obamacare Abortion Funding | LifeNews.com

Care to explain why the Pennsylvania Senate has a bill to exclude abortions?

Great cite.. These liberal LIARS think they can get away with their PROPAGANDA.. NOT going to happen.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Somewhere steelplate is breathing loudly through his mouth as the reality of being totally wrong sinks in.

lmfao!!!

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Where did the lying Meathead go?

 

[saveliberty]

Where did the lying Meathead go?

Back to the hive.

 

[Greenbeard]

The Pennsylvania Senate approved Senate Bill 3 on a 37-12 vote that lawmakers described as a common sense piece of legislation which would ensure that Pennsylvania is not forced into the abortion business as a result of so-called health care reform. The legislation now goes to the state House for consideration.

Quoth federal law:

`(1) VOLUNTARY CHOICE OF COVERAGE OF ABORTION SERVICES-

`(A) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of this title (or any amendment made by this title)--

`(i) nothing in this title (or any amendment made by this title), shall be construed to require a qualified health plan to provide coverage of services described in subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii) as part of its essential health benefits for any plan year; and
`(ii) subject to subsection (a), the issuer of a qualified health plan shall determine whether or not the plan provides coverage of services described in subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii) as part of such benefits for the plan year.​

Plans in exchanges cannot be required to include abortion coverage. What states can do, however, is forbid any plan in their exchange from offering coverage (despite the fact that, even if states allow abortion coverage, federal subsidies cannot and would not be used to pay for them). That is what Pennsylvania was attempting to do.

Nevermore.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

The Pennsylvania Senate approved Senate Bill 3 on a 37-12 vote that lawmakers described as a common sense piece of legislation which would ensure that Pennsylvania is not forced into the abortion business as a result of so-called health care reform. The legislation now goes to the state House for consideration.

Quoth federal law:

`(1) VOLUNTARY CHOICE OF COVERAGE OF ABORTION SERVICES-

`(A) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of this title (or any amendment made by this title)--

`(i) nothing in this title (or any amendment made by this title), shall be construed to require a qualified health plan to provide coverage of services described in subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii) as part of its essential health benefits for any plan year; and
`(ii) subject to subsection (a), the issuer of a qualified health plan shall determine whether or not the plan provides coverage of services described in subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii) as part of such benefits for the plan year.​

Plans in exchanges cannot be required to include abortion coverage. What states can do, however, is forbid any plan in their exchange from offering coverage (despite the fact that, even if states allow abortion coverage, federal subsidies cannot and would not be used to pay for them). That is what Pennsylvania was attempting to do.

Nevermore.

Where's your link?????

 

[Greenbeard]

Where's your link?????

Pub. L 111-148.

See Sec. 10104, particular the changes it makes to Sec. 1303 ("Special Rules").

 

[saveliberty]

The Pennsylvania Senate approved Senate Bill 3 on a 37-12 vote that lawmakers described as a common sense piece of legislation which would ensure that Pennsylvania is not forced into the abortion business as a result of so-called health care reform. The legislation now goes to the state House for consideration.

Quoth federal law:

`(1) VOLUNTARY CHOICE OF COVERAGE OF ABORTION SERVICES-

`(A) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of this title (or any amendment made by this title)--

`(i) nothing in this title (or any amendment made by this title), shall be construed to require a qualified health plan to provide coverage of services described in subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii) as part of its essential health benefits for any plan year; and
`(ii) subject to subsection (a), the issuer of a qualified health plan shall determine whether or not the plan provides coverage of services described in subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii) as part of such benefits for the plan year.​

Plans in exchanges cannot be required to include abortion coverage. What states can do, however, is forbid any plan in their exchange from offering coverage (despite the fact that, even if states allow abortion coverage, federal subsidies cannot and would not be used to pay for them). That is what Pennsylvania was attempting to do.

Nevermore.

Hence the Obama end around play Greenbeard. We understand what is going on here. Dress it up however you wish.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If they were pro growth, where are the jobs?

And why do we keep getting so much Unexpectedly Bad Economic news?

Pundit Press: "Unexpectedly" Compilation

You mean why didn't the budget busting extension of the Bush tax cuts PLUS additional tax cuts in payroll etc. NOT stimulate the economy?

You tell us. You supported them.

I didn't support the payroll tax cuts. Considering the mess that is Social Security, they were a false economy.

The reason tax rate extension alone is not enough is that federal spending has increased far above the historical 18-19% of GDP, the prospects of Obamacare are suffocating businesses, regulatory overreach is preventing of economic activity across the board, and the threat of future tax increases in 2013 is creating additional uncertainty.

Why were we told that the uncertainty problem was not extending the Bush tax cuts? They were extended,

now, the uncertainty canard is back on the table.

It's bullshit. We already know that businesses are in fact heavily investing, but it's in capital equipment, not labor.

 

[Greenbeard]

Hence the Obama end around play Greenbeard. We understand what is going on here. Dress it up however you wish.

Which is what? You're jumping between bullshit distortions too quickly, so if you made a valid point somewhere it's possible I missed it. The PCIP and exchanges talking points are false, did you have something else?

 

[JimH52]

Soooo, everything is on the table except rolling back the rich man's tax cuts? I love the way Canyousee me? Cantor plays the political game.

 

[rightwinger]

Soooo, everything is on the table except rolling back the rich man's tax cuts? I love the way Canyousee me? Cantor plays the political game.

Hey....times are tough and we ALL have to make sacrifices

Well except for you know who

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Where's your link?????

Pub. L 111-148.

See Sec. 10104, particular the changes it makes to Sec. 1303 ("Special Rules").

So what??? Thats' just the socialist healthcare fiasco.. your messiah created a loophole and we've posted several different VERIFIABLE links with facts to back it up.