Can't See The Forest For The Trees

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They are just doing what the OP would do when confronted in person. Back the fuck down and then put it back out once they leave.

But why would they do that if the Chinese love Obama and Obama is a Communist? Shouldn't Michelle be wearing one of those while she's over there?

Or maybe this is just a clever marketing scheme by the Chinese to get Republicans in the US to promote authentic commemorative Obama Marxist t-shirts.

^^THAT. OF Course

 

[Ame®icano]

My guess is those T-shirts were probably commissioned by a right wing organization here in America and some of the rejects from the factory found their way to street vendors in China.

"Obamao" is a term used by right wingers almost as frequently as "Soetero" and "Barack HUSSEIN Obama" as a perjorative. I've seen it used here on this forum.

Look at the Cuba after 50 years of communists rule. You know what happen there? Castro and Che happen, they murdered thousands upon thousands of people that did not agree with their ideas. Look what is happening today in America to those who don't like Chairman ObaMAO. If we let that continue, we're heading the same way China and Cuba went fifty years ago.

Difference between you and me is that I actually listen and hear what Obama is saying and I see who he surround himself with and I am definitely not in love with him nor any other politician.

When I smell bullshit, I know it's bullshit. And you? You believe it smell like roses.

 

[Erand7899]

Edgy, you are truly an idiot. But, on 20Jan17, President Obama will become ex-President Obama, and you will have someone else to vent your idiocy on.

President Obama is very much a centrist President. It is only that you and the other "Conservatives" here have gone so far to the right that Westbrook Pegler looks like a leftist to you. And that is why you people lost the last election.

Centrist would indicate that Obama leans toward the center of the political spectrum. Only a left wing loony would think that anything that Obama has done, or has advocated, is in any form centrist. Nor, is that why we people lost the last election.

The coming election will provide a good indication of where the center of politcal thought stands today, and it does not look too good for the left wing loonies.

Perhaps you have forgotten that five years ago, Hillary could not even win the Democrat nomination, let alone win the national vote. She was also the overwhelming front runner early in that cycle.

 

[g5000]

Speaking of forests and trees, note the T-shirt is in English.

Capitalism at its finest. Give the visiting rubes from red states what they want. "I got this in China, so it must be true!"

 

[ScienceRocks]

Edgy, you are truly an idiot. But, on 20Jan17, President Obama will become ex-President Obama, and you will have someone else to vent your idiocy on.

President Obama is very much a centrist President. It is only that you and the other "Conservatives" here have gone so far to the right that Westbrook Pegler looks like a leftist to you. And that is why you people lost the last election.

I'd probably agree with you if he didn't double the welfare rolls and go down the racial street at times. Otherwise yes, he's a moderate.

 

[Katzndogz]

The day will come when Obama isn't president but his evil will go on for generations. The credibility of the country has not only but is buried.

 

[bendog]

earthshaking.

 

[FA_Q2]

Edgy, you are truly an idiot. But, on 20Jan17, President Obama will become ex-President Obama, and you will have someone else to vent your idiocy on.

President Obama is very much a centrist President. It is only that you and the other "Conservatives" here have gone so far to the right that Westbrook Pegler looks like a leftist to you. And that is why you people lost the last election.

Centrist would indicate that Obama leans toward the center of the political spectrum. Only a left wing loony would think that anything that Obama has done, or has advocated, is in any form centrist. Nor, is that why we people lost the last election.

The coming election will provide a good indication of where the center of politcal thought stands today, and it does not look too good for the left wing loonies.

Perhaps you have forgotten that five years ago, Hillary could not even win the Democrat nomination, let alone win the national vote. She was also the overwhelming front runner early in that cycle.

Here is the problem with the entire concept. I am likely wasting this time by typing this in this particular thread but oh well…

Obama is NOT what the left wants. He has abandoned most of what the constituents on the left actually believe in, some of that being far more socialist than what we ended up with. Single payer is one example of many in this category. In today’s political world, political hacks and party loyalists see only a black and white system with the only ‘grey’ being a direct link between them. Under that understanding we see why the right sees him as ultra-socialist and the left as a centrist when Obama is neither of these things.

Obama embodies NOTHING that the rights stands for. Nothing. That makes him far far left in the minds of those that see only 2 sides to the equation. If he is nothing on the right that only leaves the left. The left, OTOH, sees Obama only supporting a portion of the things that they believe in and some things that they do not. That makes him a ‘centrist’ because they are utterly ignoring where that center actually is. It would make perfect sense if our world really was constructed only of political right and left rather than a myriad of different political persuasions.

For myself, I see Obama as statist and corporatist. That might be as flawed as the rest of those trying to categorize him as left/right but I don’t think it is. I think that the ACA to Solyndra to the new regulatory structures that he backs illustrates this very well. He seems to believe in a tightly controlled economy that I would certainly not call free but it is also NOT socialist but ran by government supported corporations. That is NOT a ‘centrist’ position at all as it is nowhere near what the republican constituents actually stand for (even if the Republican Party does at this particular time).

So for those calling Obama centrist – I don’t think you can be further from the truth and you will realize the reality in this when you understand that the republicans are equally incensed about the policies of Obama that the left declares ‘right.’ They are not policies on the right but policies in a corporate shill government.

 

[JoeB131]

Edgy, you are truly an idiot. But, on 20Jan17, President Obama will become ex-President Obama, and you will have someone else to vent your idiocy on.

President Obama is very much a centrist President. It is only that you and the other "Conservatives" here have gone so far to the right that Westbrook Pegler looks like a leftist to you. And that is why you people lost the last election.

This is a "centrist" President's desires???
Believes in a single payer health system". but doesn't know that $850 billion a year in wasted claims are caused by lawyers.
???

But that's not true, and I'm not sure why you keep repeating it.

U.S. malpractice lawsuits not fueling high cost of healthcare - UPI.com

Dr. Marty Makary, an associate professor of surgery and health policy at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, and colleagues found in their review that U.S. malpractice payouts of more than $1 million added up to roughly $1.4 billion a year -- making up far less than 1 percent of national medical expenditures in the United States. The cost of U.S. healthcare was $2.6 trillion in 2010.

"The notion that frivolous claims are routinely resulting in $100 million payouts is not true," Makary, the study leader, said in a statement. "The real problem is that far too many tests and procedures are being performed in the name of defensive medicine, as physicians fear they could be sued if they don't order them. That costs upwards of $60 billion a year. It is not the payouts that are bankrupting the system -- it's the fear of them."

So essentially, lawsuit payouts are 1.4 billion, and defensive medicine is maybe 60 billion a year if you are being generous. (Although, again, I really want doctors ordering those extra tests, don't you?)

Meanwhile, let's look at what really drives up the costs of medicines.

Health Insurance CEO Paid $106 Million. Feel Better? by Newspaper Contributors on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

Modern Healthcare, a leading health industry trade journal, published its annual executive compensation survey this week. Topping the list is Stephen Hemsley, quoted above, who gave a speech to the Detroit Economic Club last year questioning the value Americans receive for all that health spending.

His take for 2009: $106 million — $7.5 million in salary and benefits and $98.5 million in stock options.

Mr. Hemsley is not alone. The CEOs at insurance giants Cigna, Humana, Aetna, Coventry Health Systems and WellPoint all took home between $10 million and about $18 million. Many of those companies already have announced double-digit premium increases for next year.

In all, the CEOs of America's 10 largest health insurance companies made $228.1 million in salary and stock options during 2009, according to the liberal advocacy group Health Care For America Now.

(That's enough to buy health insurance for at least 47,284 people, based on figured cited in this Kaiser Family Foundation survey on average premiums.)