Candycorn's Idea for Changing the Way We Elect Candidates For President.

Yes. This is why we need to ensure that the President Elect win both the plurality of the popular vote as well as the majority of he electoral college vote.

I'm not enamored with it. The idea that somone can get 50.0001% of the votes with the other candidate getting 49.9999% of the votes and the 50% guys gets 100% of the EC votes make no sense to me.

Which is why I support 1 EC Elector awared be Congressional District (representing the locality) and 2 EC Electors for the State (Representing the 2 Senator seats).

WW
 
You condition was "who I like" or even if I knew them. The statement was that they were anonymous.

So attempt to move the goal post noted.

BTW - I'm in Virginia.

WW
Well, you're trying to pretend that they are not anonymous. I just showed that they are since you admitted you don't know them.

Sorry...if you're going to say that they are not anonymous ... you have to demonstrate that they are not.

Over and above this...you're relying on them to vote for you...not fix your faucet. It would seem like we would want to know who's voting for us. Which is why I think the people need to weigh in directly on who becomes president and is why I'm fine with the parameters of the 12th amendment. At least we voted for the Sens and Reps who would be deciding the outcome in the unlikely event that the EV and PV don't jibe.
 
No one wants to change the constitution. Until they lose.
 
I'm not enamored with it. The idea that somone can get 50.0001% of the votes with the other candidate getting 49.9999% of the votes and the 50% guys gets 100% of the EC votes make no sense to me.

Which is why I support 1 EC Elector awared be Congressional District (representing the locality) and 2 EC Electors for the State (Representing the 2 Senator seats).

WW
Well, agree to disagree. Right?
 
Yes. This is why we need to ensure that the President Elect win both the plurality of the popular vote as well as the majority of he electoral college vote.
You don't seem to understand the reason we have the EC. Your plan would effectively kill the EC.
 
You don't seem to understand the reason we have the EC. Your plan would effectively kill the EC.

Not even remotely true. It would give ordinary Americans a direct hand in electing the President; just like we have for every other elected office.
 
Totally disagree. The electoral college prevents the candidates from just playing to the main population centers around the nation.

The EC does need to be enhanced to where the President-Elect ALSO has to get a plurality of the vote on top of a majority in the EC. By doing this, the voters have a direct say in the most powerful elected office in the nation.
What do you think they are doing now in states?

They don't even bother showing up in many.
 
Well, you're trying to pretend that they are not anonymous. I just showed that they are since you admitted you don't know them.

Maybe you should have used different terminology,

Anonymous means being unidentified. The EC Electors for each state are known, it's public record, and they even have to individually sign the vote certificate forwarded to Congress.

Public Record != Unidentified.

WW
 
Well, you're trying to pretend that they are not anonymous. I just showed that they are since you admitted you don't know them.
I don't think you understand the meaning of anonymous.


anonymous​

adjective

anon·y·mous ə-ˈnä-nə-məs

Synonyms of anonymous
1
: of unknown authorship or origin
an anonymous tip


2
: not named or identified
an anonymous author

They wish to remain anonymous.


3
: lacking individuality, distinction, or recognizability
the anonymous faces in the crowd

… the gray anonymous streets …—William Styron
 
At least we voted for the Sens and Reps who would be deciding the outcome in the unlikely event that the EV and PV don't jibe.
The founding fathers set all this up with a purpose. House elections were a direct vote to answer directly to the people. Senate elections answered to the states. Presidential elections answered to the entire country. They all answer to the people. That's democracy.

The 17th amendment was one of the worst things ever for the constitution.
 
What do you think they are doing now in states?

They don't even bother showing up in many.
Decisions are made by those who show up. No plan in the world will overcome apathy. I'm not sure what your point is but if you're worried about voter participation, I fail to see how giving ordinary Americans a direct say in the outcome of a presidential contest would hurt participation.
 
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Not even remotely true. It would give ordinary Americans a direct hand in electing the President; just like we have for every other elected office.
The winner will always be the winner of the popular vote.

Not so the other way around.
 
Maybe you should have used different terminology,

Anonymous means being unidentified. The EC Electors for each state are known, it's public record, and they even have to individually sign the vote certificate forwarded to Congress.

Public Record != Unidentified.

WW

: lacking individuality, distinction, or recognizability
the anonymous faces in the crowd
 
Would you recognize any of those people on the list?

Thanks for proving my point.
I could quite easily find out who they are, where they are and what they do for a living.

That's not anonymous. We know their names and what state they live in.
 
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