Canada Wildfires This Year Have Released As Much CO2 As About 20% Of US Emissions

Well you seemed to claim in you OP sentence that forest burning down was somehow acceptable since it is "natural."

>The flaw in the OP is that the carbon released burning wood is natural

I take issue with that.

The fact that fossil fuels are "natural" resources is inarguable, and burning them actually has tremendous benefits to humanity, unlike burning forests.

Do you understand how radiocarbon dating works? ... those trees burning in Canada can all be dated ... the fossil fuels cannot ... it has to do with the carbon cycle ...

Not going to bother ... you want a strawman to argue with ... I never said "good" or "bad" ... you've taken issue with someone else ...
 
Is that what your kitchen counter tests are showing? ...


No, that is the data from the two and only two measures of Earth atmospheric temps, satellites and balloons.... nice try...
 
Is that what your kitchen counter tests are showing? ... what is your data? ...


The Co2 fraud side has nothing. It failed to prove increasing atmospheric Co2 causes atmospheric warming.

GAME OVER

THEORY REJECTED
 
The Co2 fraud side has nothing. It failed to prove increasing atmospheric Co2 causes atmospheric warming.

GAME OVER

THEORY REJECTED

Theories prove nothing ... what experiment can we perform to demonstrate your claims? ... or is this just pseudo-science? ...
 
what experiment can we perform to demonstrate your claims?



Well, to demonstrate the "claim," we would need to measure atmospheric temps while Co2 was rising, and WE DID THAT and the result was NO WARMING until your side lost it in 2005 and FUDGED BOTH the satellite and balloon data, posted on USMB 5000 times already...


There is no need for an "experiment." THAT was the experiment. We increased atmospheric Co2 and atmospheric temps did not go up = BUSTED LYING
 
Well, to demonstrate the "claim," we would need to measure atmospheric temps while Co2 was rising, and WE DID THAT and the result was NO WARMING until your side lost it in 2005 and FUDGED BOTH the satellite and balloon data, posted on USMB 5000 times already...


There is no need for an "experiment." THAT was the experiment. We increased atmospheric Co2 and atmospheric temps did not go up = BUSTED LYING

Can you post the results of this experiment? ... we'll want to look at the surface parameters, 1000 mb, 700 mb, 500 mb and 300 mb ... and the corrections made for El Niño and the other atmospheric oscillations ... including the solar cycle ... and who calibrated which equipment? ... and include your control data as well please ...

You've never done a scientific experiment in your entire life ... have you? ...
 
Can you post the results of this experiment? ... we'll want to look at the surface parameters, 1000 mb, 700 mb, 500 mb and 300 mb ... and the corrections made for El Niño and the other atmospheric oscillations ... including the solar cycle ... and who calibrated which equipment? ... and include your control data as well please ...

You've never done a scientific experiment in your entire life ... have you? ...


You'd have to sue to get the data. Nobody is disputing THE DATA showed NO WARMING. What there is a debate about is whether


"orbit wobble" justified fudging the satellites higher = laughable BS

"shade issue" may justify tweaking the balloons all a certain amount but CONSTANT the whole time, would never justify taking no warming and fudging it to warming (or cooling)


Your side is laughable fudge and fraud.

My first science experiment was dissecting a lizard in junior high...
 
You'd have to sue to get the data. Nobody is disputing THE DATA showed NO WARMING. What there is a debate about is whether


"orbit wobble" justified fudging the satellites higher = laughable BS

"shade issue" may justify tweaking the balloons all a certain amount but CONSTANT the whole time, would never justify taking no warming and fudging it to warming (or cooling)


Your side is laughable fudge and fraud.

My first science experiment was dissecting a lizard in junior high...

Why do I have to sue you for your data? ... this is a kitchen counter experiment ... a bottle filled with air, a bottle filled with CO2 ... shine a light on them and measure the temperature change ... easy peasy ... or do you already know the results will make you look like a complete fool ...

Ah ... you've taken Middle School science ... good ... how about college science? ... with lab ... all I remember from the frog dissection was my mother snatching half the ones we collected for the class and cooked them ... fed the legs to us kids ... just the kind of woman she was ...
 

Recent Daily Average Mauna Loa CO2​



June 10: 424.10 ppm
June 09: 424.46 ppm
June 08: 423.62 ppm
June 07: 424.44 ppm
June 06: 424.43 ppm
 
Now this is the real pisser and a reason why we're already fucked. By adding co2 into the system we're also enhancing the natural systems that produce co2 and they're huge. If we don't stop and find ways to suck this shit out of our atmosphere we will have run away global warming.
 
Now this is the real pisser and a reason why we're already fucked. By adding co2 into the system we're also enhancing the natural systems that produce co2 and they're huge. If we don't stop and find ways to suck this shit out of our atmosphere we will have run away global warming.

Run-away Greenhouse Effect has long been dismissed by scientists ... air temperatures are severely restricted by ocean temperatures ... it's the ocean that warms the air, not the other way around ...

Stefan-Boltzmann's Law states that temperature is proportional to the fourth-root of irradiation ... it takes A LOT of carbon dioxide to raise temperatures a little bit ... and that relationship just gets worse as we add CO2 ... compared to an acre of black-top parking lot that will raise temperatures 3ºC immediately ... without trees ...

So plant trees if you're so worried about CCC ... sheesh ... easy peasy if you don't mind some hard physical labor ...
 
The actual atmosphere is what we are measuring, not one of your old liquor bottles...

So ... you have no experiment that confirms your claims ...

Then your claim is strictly philosophical ...

My claim is global warming, of all kinds, is good for humanity ... and that is a philosophical position ... we should provide electric power to those who have none today, damn the carbon foot print ... the hope is that with electric lights, they'll have better things to do than breed at night ...

It's the right thing to do ... fuck science ...
 
The "experiment" is actually REALITY.

The theory is that increasing atmospheric Co2 causes atmospheric warming

The DATA = THEORY REJECTED


Now go play with your bottles and claim increasing Co2 causes "warming" that does not exist in REALITY...
 
My claim is global warming


You have no warming, so no data now to analyze.


If Earth has two polar oceans and hence no ice, it warms. Atmosphere thickens. It rains all the time.

Snakes are 80 feet long, sharks are 60 feet long....

good for humans... according to you... a bottle playing MORON
 
You have no warming, so no data now to analyze.


If Earth has two polar oceans and hence no ice, it warms. Atmosphere thickens. It rains all the time.

Snakes are 80 feet long, sharks are 60 feet long....

good for humans... according to you... a bottle playing MORON

Oh ... you have no data ... so your claims are religious in nature ... all bow to the great SSDD ... the Queen of Sweden will want to speak with you over this ...
 
Oh ... you have no data ... so your claims are religious in nature ... all bow to the great SSDD ... the Queen of Sweden will want to speak with you over this ...


So why are there fossils of such creatures from past periods?
 

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