Can Whites trust Blacks?

[IM2]

Consider that on this forum it is widely believed by Black posters that Whites are inherently racist and should be held accountable (i.e., penalized) for 472 years of slavery. As a result, Whites deserve neither trust nor even the right to comment on race relations. Given this seemingly pervasive attitude towards Whites, should it not follow that Whites can't trust Blacks to deal with them in an unbiased manner?

Blacks don't even trust other blacks.....why should whites trust them??

You have no clue what your talking about.

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Yes I do.
My wife of 40 years is black.

Did she tell you that black people don't trust other black people?
How many black people does she know?
I know lots of black guys who would do anything for their brothers so I guess you and your wife are mistaken.

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Your lying, most blacks are selfish.

Well now, where does it say in the bible that you get to tell everybody to do what you haven't ever done you racist punk.

 

[IM2]

I’ll also say that black men are easier than white men. They’re usually quick to calm down. Quicker than white guys.

6 million police videos say otherwise.

No they don't.

 

[IM2]

 

[mudwhistle]

Consider that on this forum it is widely believed by Black posters that Whites are inherently racist and should be held accountable (i.e., penalized) for 472 years of slavery. As a result, Whites deserve neither trust nor even the right to comment on race relations. Given this seemingly pervasive attitude towards Whites, should it not follow that Whites can't trust Blacks to deal with them in an unbiased manner?

Blacks don't even trust other blacks.....why should whites trust them??

You have no clue what your talking about.

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We have all kinds of amazing insight about black people here in USMB, most of it from conservatives who live in more rural areas and encounter a black person maybe 6 times a year. They didn't do any interviews or research on black people - But they did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I dunno. I've been waking up in the morning with one since 1977.
Have you ever been to one of their funerals? Have you ever had any of them live with you for more than a day or two? Have you ever played on a team with them in any sport? Have you ever raised one of them like your own kids?

 

[mudwhistle]

Consider that on this forum it is widely believed by Black posters that Whites are inherently racist and should be held accountable (i.e., penalized) for 472 years of slavery. As a result, Whites deserve neither trust nor even the right to comment on race relations. Given this seemingly pervasive attitude towards Whites, should it not follow that Whites can't trust Blacks to deal with them in an unbiased manner?

Blacks don't even trust other blacks.....why should whites trust them??

You have no clue what your talking about.

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Yes I do.
My wife of 40 years is black.

If she's been with you for 40 years, it would be understandable if either you finally convinced her not to trust blacks, and/or if she was suspicious of white people.

Wrong answer.
Even if I tried to, one thing you don't do is tell a woman how to think.
That's a very good way to not be with that woman.

 

[SweetSue92]

While some blacks continue to use racism as an excuse for their failures, others are quick to call them out.

Like whites, blacks can only blame themselves for their unwillingness to better themselves.

The days of blaming white people are over. It’s time for black people to start accepting and addressing the problems within their community.

The problems were caused by whites.

Government policies based on racist myths help dissolve black families

The lie that African-Americans are incapable of building and maintaining family structures has been bought by many, including policymakers

There are stories that we like to tell ourselves to account for large systemic imbalances in our society, myths that we employ to feel comfortable in our analysis of social problems. Melanin makes you violent is a stupid, strange fiction; it absolves society from ever confronting the prejudice that is inextricable from policies; it perpetuates legal segregation without ever admitting that segregation is deliberate; it masks our complicity in allowing the growth of the carceral state by suggesting it must always be so.

On Wednesday, a new study by Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, Forward Together and Research Action Design put the lie to our self-serving fictions. The disproportionate criminalization of African Americans has served to reinforce segregation and income inequality over generations, and African American men are not its sole victims.


The study found that on average families with an imprisoned relative paid $13,607 in court-related costs. In addition, one in five families who participated in the study reported that they had to take out a loan to cover these costs. One in five families were unable to afford housing expenses due to the loss of income from their loved one’s incarceration. Two out of three families had difficulty meeting basic needs as a result of their loved one’s conviction and incarceration. 83% of family members primarily responsible for these costs were women.

There are over 2.2 million Americans currently in the prison system, accounting for 25% of the world’s prison population, the highest of the industrialized nations. It is estimated that 58% of the nation’s incarcerated are black and Latino men.

Black families are and have always been imperiled by aggressive criminal justice policies and demonized for their effects; the disintegration of black families then blocks the formerly incarcerated from accessing basic necessities for survival. That hardship only perpetuates systemic income inequality, and this hardship is shouldered disproportionately by black women.

In the latest cover story by Ta-Nehisi Coates, out in the October issue of the Atlantic, The Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration, Coates makes a case that a dystopian fairy tale about African-American family structures has accompanied the rapid rate of incarceration of African Americans as far back as 1965. At the height of the civil rights movement, then Assistant Labor Secretary Daniel Patrick Moynihan released The Negro Family, a report intended to address black urban poverty yet intentionally omitted tangible policy recommendations. Instead, it built the base of the family-centered magic fix rhetoric ubiquitous in our ongoing discussions and implementation of vast urban public policy from housing, schools and finally, the unprecedented rise of mass incarceration that disproportionately affects poor black families.

The Moynihan narrative is one of the reasons why the government created racist, classist policies that incentivized the dissolution (or non-formation) of black families, then problematized black people for not having them. In an interview, Joyce Ladner – a student at Washington University in 1964 –recalled her experiences working as a research assistant for a National Institute of Health funded study that focused on the lives of women and girls in public housing: “The welfare department had a rule that no able bodied man could be in the house if a woman received aid for dependent children.”

Moynihan’s myth that African-Americans are incapable of building and maintaining family structures was so persuasive that, to this day, it’s used to justify the warehousing of people from derelict and underserved communities. It is also employed to justify moves to divest from urban centers that would produce opportunities for the people of ‘poor moral character’, who only have ‘poor moral character’ because they were born poor.

Government policies based on racist myths help dissolve black families | Syreeta McFadden

Whites will be blamed for what they have done and there is nothing you can do about it.

First of all how is it perceived that blacks do not have strong families?

?????

They most certainly do not have strong marriages in 2018 and maybe not what would be called strong "nuclear" families, but not strong families? I'm not black but from the outside looking in, this does not ring true to me. Don't they still have strong families? That's first.

Secondly, it's not solely the fault of whites that black marriage are suffering, nor blacks either. It's multi-faceted I think.

Black marriages are failing for the same reason everyone elses fail. But you cannot deny the role that racist public policy has had upon backs.

There is no doubt that horrendous public policy contributes to the failure of black marriages, no doubt about that. Whether racism is behind that is an open question. I don't know.

I do know many blacks continue to vote for the same party that has failed them again and again and again. Single party line, every time. I would make any party work a WHOLE lot harder for my vote than that. *shrug*

 

[Liberty777]

Blacks don't even trust other blacks.....why should whites trust them??

You have no clue what your talking about.

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Yes I do.
My wife of 40 years is black.

Did she tell you that black people don't trust other black people?
How many black people does she know?
I know lots of black guys who would do anything for their brothers so I guess you and your wife are mistaken.

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Your lying, most blacks are selfish.

Well now, where does it say in the bible that you get to tell everybody to do what you haven't ever done you racist punk.

Are most blacks not selfish?

 

[Liberty777]

Consider that on this forum it is widely believed by Black posters that Whites are inherently racist and should be held accountable (i.e., penalized) for 472 years of slavery. As a result, Whites deserve neither trust nor even the right to comment on race relations. Given this seemingly pervasive attitude towards Whites, should it not follow that Whites can't trust Blacks to deal with them in an unbiased manner?

Except no one has said whites are inherently racist. And whites should be held responsible for racism which has gone far beyond slavery. What has been said is that whites have no right to tell blacks what they experience isn't so. Therefore this OP is a lie and one more attempt at baiting by whites in this section of the forum. So the right question is can we trust whites since whites have the record of racist and oppressive behavior, and that whites here have shown they will lie in order to make claims that have not been said.

Racism doesn’t exist.

That's a lie mr. you need to find God.

Racism doesn’t exist

 

[Taz]

No.

 

[Hellbilly]

You have no clue what your talking about.

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Yes I do.
My wife of 40 years is black.

Did she tell you that black people don't trust other black people?
How many black people does she know?
I know lots of black guys who would do anything for their brothers so I guess you and your wife are mistaken.

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Your lying, most blacks are selfish.

Well now, where does it say in the bible that you get to tell everybody to do what you haven't ever done you racist punk.

Are most blacks not selfish?

Most people are selfish.

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[Indeependent]

Consider that on this forum it is widely believed by Black posters that Whites are inherently racist and should be held accountable (i.e., penalized) for 472 years of slavery. As a result, Whites deserve neither trust nor even the right to comment on race relations. Given this seemingly pervasive attitude towards Whites, should it not follow that Whites can't trust Blacks to deal with them in an unbiased manner?

Blacks don't even trust other blacks.....why should whites trust them??

You have no clue what your talking about.

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Yes I do.
My wife of 40 years is black.

Any other wives?

 

[Liberty777]

Yes I do.
My wife of 40 years is black.

Did she tell you that black people don't trust other black people?
How many black people does she know?
I know lots of black guys who would do anything for their brothers so I guess you and your wife are mistaken.

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Your lying, most blacks are selfish.

Well now, where does it say in the bible that you get to tell everybody to do what you haven't ever done you racist punk.

Are most blacks not selfish?

Most people are selfish.

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Doesn’t that make most blacks selfish?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Consider that on this forum it is widely believed by Black posters that Whites are inherently racist and should be held accountable (i.e., penalized) for 472 years of slavery. As a result, Whites deserve neither trust nor even the right to comment on race relations. Given this seemingly pervasive attitude towards Whites, should it not follow that Whites can't trust Blacks to deal with them in an unbiased manner?

Blacks don't even trust other blacks.....why should whites trust them??

The Origin of Black-On-Black Crime

Every slave who wasn't born in America had participated in slave hunts before he himself got captured. Every American African today is dominated by genes from one of the thousands of small tribes that hated all others.

 

[Hellbilly]

Consider that on this forum it is widely believed by Black posters that Whites are inherently racist and should be held accountable (i.e., penalized) for 472 years of slavery. As a result, Whites deserve neither trust nor even the right to comment on race relations. Given this seemingly pervasive attitude towards Whites, should it not follow that Whites can't trust Blacks to deal with them in an unbiased manner?

Blacks don't even trust other blacks.....why should whites trust them??

You have no clue what your talking about.

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Yes I do.
My wife of 40 years is black.

Did she tell you that black people don't trust other black people?
How many black people does she know?
I know lots of black guys who would do anything for their brothers so I guess you and your wife are mistaken.

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You may know a few black guys, but I've lived with them most of my life.

Me too. My heritage is Native American and African. To be specific, Bantu and Cherokee.

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[The Sage of Main Street]

Consider that on this forum it is widely believed by Black posters that Whites are inherently racist and should be held accountable (i.e., penalized) for 472 years of slavery. As a result, Whites deserve neither trust nor even the right to comment on race relations. Given this seemingly pervasive attitude towards Whites, should it not follow that Whites can't trust Blacks to deal with them in an unbiased manner?

Blacks don't even trust other blacks.....why should whites trust them??

You have no clue what your talking about.

Sent from my SM-J727VPP using Tapatalk

We have all kinds of amazing insight about black people here in USMB, most of it from conservatives who live in more rural areas and encounter a black person maybe 6 times a year. They didn't do any interviews or research on black people - But they did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

The Only Whites Who Voted for Obama Just Because He's Black Were Graduates of Prep Schools

Since you are inferior in everything else, at least you can tell yourself you are morally superior for adopting the ignorant and sheltered snobbery of the hereditary ruling class.

 

[Hellbilly]

Did she tell you that black people don't trust other black people?
How many black people does she know?
I know lots of black guys who would do anything for their brothers so I guess you and your wife are mistaken.

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Your lying, most blacks are selfish.

Well now, where does it say in the bible that you get to tell everybody to do what you haven't ever done you racist punk.

Are most blacks not selfish?

Most people are selfish.

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Doesn’t that make most blacks selfish?

No.
It does make you a racist tho.

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[The Sage of Main Street]

While some blacks continue to use racism as an excuse for their failures, others are quick to call them out.

Like whites, blacks can only blame themselves for their unwillingness to better themselves.

The days of blaming white people are over. It’s time for black people to start accepting and addressing the problems within their community.

The problems were caused by whites.

Government policies based on racist myths help dissolve black families

The lie that African-Americans are incapable of building and maintaining family structures has been bought by many, including policymakers

There are stories that we like to tell ourselves to account for large systemic imbalances in our society, myths that we employ to feel comfortable in our analysis of social problems. Melanin makes you violent is a stupid, strange fiction; it absolves society from ever confronting the prejudice that is inextricable from policies; it perpetuates legal segregation without ever admitting that segregation is deliberate; it masks our complicity in allowing the growth of the carceral state by suggesting it must always be so.

On Wednesday, a new study by Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, Forward Together and Research Action Design put the lie to our self-serving fictions. The disproportionate criminalization of African Americans has served to reinforce segregation and income inequality over generations, and African American men are not its sole victims.


The study found that on average families with an imprisoned relative paid $13,607 in court-related costs. In addition, one in five families who participated in the study reported that they had to take out a loan to cover these costs. One in five families were unable to afford housing expenses due to the loss of income from their loved one’s incarceration. Two out of three families had difficulty meeting basic needs as a result of their loved one’s conviction and incarceration. 83% of family members primarily responsible for these costs were women.

There are over 2.2 million Americans currently in the prison system, accounting for 25% of the world’s prison population, the highest of the industrialized nations. It is estimated that 58% of the nation’s incarcerated are black and Latino men.

Black families are and have always been imperiled by aggressive criminal justice policies and demonized for their effects; the disintegration of black families then blocks the formerly incarcerated from accessing basic necessities for survival. That hardship only perpetuates systemic income inequality, and this hardship is shouldered disproportionately by black women.

In the latest cover story by Ta-Nehisi Coates, out in the October issue of the Atlantic, The Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration, Coates makes a case that a dystopian fairy tale about African-American family structures has accompanied the rapid rate of incarceration of African Americans as far back as 1965. At the height of the civil rights movement, then Assistant Labor Secretary Daniel Patrick Moynihan released The Negro Family, a report intended to address black urban poverty yet intentionally omitted tangible policy recommendations. Instead, it built the base of the family-centered magic fix rhetoric ubiquitous in our ongoing discussions and implementation of vast urban public policy from housing, schools and finally, the unprecedented rise of mass incarceration that disproportionately affects poor black families.

The Moynihan narrative is one of the reasons why the government created racist, classist policies that incentivized the dissolution (or non-formation) of black families, then problematized black people for not having them. In an interview, Joyce Ladner – a student at Washington University in 1964 –recalled her experiences working as a research assistant for a National Institute of Health funded study that focused on the lives of women and girls in public housing: “The welfare department had a rule that no able bodied man could be in the house if a woman received aid for dependent children.”

Moynihan’s myth that African-Americans are incapable of building and maintaining family structures was so persuasive that, to this day, it’s used to justify the warehousing of people from derelict and underserved communities. It is also employed to justify moves to divest from urban centers that would produce opportunities for the people of ‘poor moral character’, who only have ‘poor moral character’ because they were born poor.

Government policies based on racist myths help dissolve black families | Syreeta McFadden

Whites will be blamed for what they have done and there is nothing you can do about it.

First of all how is it perceived that blacks do not have strong families?

?????

They most certainly do not have strong marriages in 2018 and maybe not what would be called strong "nuclear" families, but not strong families? I'm not black but from the outside looking in, this does not ring true to me. Don't they still have strong families? That's first.

Secondly, it's not solely the fault of whites that black marriage are suffering, nor blacks either. It's multi-faceted I think.

Black marriages are failing for the same reason everyone elses fail. But you cannot deny the role that racist public policy has had upon backs.

There is no doubt that horrendous public policy contributes to the failure of black marriages, no doubt about that. Whether racism is behind that is an open question. I don't know.

I do know many blacks continue to vote for the same party that has failed them again and again and again. Single party line, every time. I would make any party work a WHOLE lot harder for my vote than that. *shrug*

Broncos Need to Be Busted

The Africans' behavior would be inferior no matter what the government policy was towards them. Quit evading the issue by pixel-peddling this subtly anti-White Conservative con that they'd be as productive as Whites if it weren't for Liberal permissiveness corrupting them.

 

[gipper]

Consider that on this forum it is widely believed by Black posters that Whites are inherently racist and should be held accountable (i.e., penalized) for 472 years of slavery. As a result, Whites deserve neither trust nor even the right to comment on race relations. Given this seemingly pervasive attitude towards Whites, should it not follow that Whites can't trust Blacks to deal with them in an unbiased manner?

Except no one has said whites are inherently racist. And whites should be held responsible for racism which has gone far beyond slavery. What has been said is that whites have no right to tell blacks what they experience isn't so. Therefore this OP is a lie and one more attempt at baiting by whites in this section of the forum. So the right question is can we trust whites since whites have the record of racist and oppressive behavior, and that whites here have shown they will lie in order to make claims that have not been said.

You believe all whites are racist. Why lie about it?
My ancestors fought to free yours and you shit on white people today. You clearly aren’t smart, but are a racist.

Don't tell me what I believe you stupid son of a bitch. Your ancestors didn't do shit but start jim crow. Fuck you.

If not for those like my ancestors who fought and died to end slavery, you might be picking cotton and singing old negro slave songs.

 

[mudwhistle]

Consider that on this forum it is widely believed by Black posters that Whites are inherently racist and should be held accountable (i.e., penalized) for 472 years of slavery. As a result, Whites deserve neither trust nor even the right to comment on race relations. Given this seemingly pervasive attitude towards Whites, should it not follow that Whites can't trust Blacks to deal with them in an unbiased manner?

Except no one has said whites are inherently racist. And whites should be held responsible for racism which has gone far beyond slavery. What has been said is that whites have no right to tell blacks what they experience isn't so. Therefore this OP is a lie and one more attempt at baiting by whites in this section of the forum. So the right question is can we trust whites since whites have the record of racist and oppressive behavior, and that whites here have shown they will lie in order to make claims that have not been said.

You believe all whites are racist. Why lie about it?
My ancestors fought to free yours and you shit on white people today. You clearly aren’t smart, but are a racist.

Don't tell me what I believe you stupid son of a bitch. Your ancestors didn't do shit but start jim crow. Fuck you.

If not for those like my ancestors who fought and died to end slavery, you might be picking cotton and singing old negro slave songs.

Some a dem bring tears to my eyes.....

 

[DrLove]

I dunno. I've been waking up in the morning with one since 1977.
Have you ever been to one of their funerals? Have you ever had any of them live with you for more than a day or two? Have you ever played on a team with them in any sport? Have you ever raised one of them like your own kids?

Oh fucking relax muddy - Yes, I started HS and JC hoops with no less than TWO black players who became stars in the NBA. One is a Hall-o-Famer and we're still in touch. My HS team was half black - JC College about a third.

Funerals? Yes - two the latter of which was with full gospel choir for the Daddy of Hall-o-Famer which was AWESOME.

And yes, I shared dorm room with a black guy for both my Junior & Senior years in college. He was awesome, we got along fine and he'd take me to his Mama's house on occasion for soul food. We are still in touch also.

Your claim that marrying a black woman gives you some sort of magical insight into black people in general is summarily laughed off the board.