Can the US intercept missiles?

[Bleipriester]

You know your posts are shit when you have to reply to yourself begging for comments.

You guys went nuts when that question occurred. Now you have a video that shows Iranian missiles being intercepted and there is just silence here.

What comments do you want? Your link leads to video with 31 viewers.

Is this video real at all? Who told you that it shows the American base being attacked by the Iranians?

If I remember correctly, the attack happened around 2 am. It is the middle of the night, virtually. But your video shows something like a dawn.

If you would watch from a different angle, the sky would be black.It was also in my facebook. And what should it be, New Year´s Eve?

 

[ESay]

You know your posts are shit when you have to reply to yourself begging for comments.

You guys went nuts when that question occurred. Now you have a video that shows Iranian missiles being intercepted and there is just silence here.

What comments do you want? Your link leads to video with 31 viewers.

Is this video real at all? Who told you that it shows the American base being attacked by the Iranians?

If I remember correctly, the attack happened around 2 am. It is the middle of the night, virtually. But your video shows something like a dawn.

If you would watch from a different angle, the sky would be black.It was also in my facebook. And what should it be, New Year´s Eve?

From what angle did you see the black sky? Clean up your monitor first.

I have no idea what it is. It is you posted.

 

[Bleipriester]

You know your posts are shit when you have to reply to yourself begging for comments.

You guys went nuts when that question occurred. Now you have a video that shows Iranian missiles being intercepted and there is just silence here.

What comments do you want? Your link leads to video with 31 viewers.

Is this video real at all? Who told you that it shows the American base being attacked by the Iranians?

If I remember correctly, the attack happened around 2 am. It is the middle of the night, virtually. But your video shows something like a dawn.

If you would watch from a different angle, the sky would be black.It was also in my facebook. And what should it be, New Year´s Eve?

From what angle did you see the black sky? Clean up your monitor first.

I have no idea what it is. It is you posted.

Look up the credits in my video. They have some more.

 

[Mushroom]

Trump receiving Iranian missiles could turn out to be a major game changer on the world stage. Not only are there no reactions but also no missiles were intercepted.
Trump could not react to the Iranian retaliation without exposing 5000 more US troops to Iranian attacks.

There was no air defense on that base.

The US learned the hard way in 2003 that you do not put PATRIOT or other Air Defense systems right on the front lines. Unless you have a large base to protect them from ground attacks, you do not put in Air Defense systems.

At most we might have had some troops with STINGER or AVENGER systems, but those are only good against aircraft, they are useless against missiles.

 

[Bleipriester]

Trump receiving Iranian missiles could turn out to be a major game changer on the world stage. Not only are there no reactions but also no missiles were intercepted.
Trump could not react to the Iranian retaliation without exposing 5000 more US troops to Iranian attacks.

There was no air defense on that base.

The US learned the hard way in 2003 that you do not put PATRIOT or other Air Defense systems right on the front lines. Unless you have a large base to protect them from ground attacks, you do not put in Air Defense systems.

At most we might have had some troops with STINGER or AVENGER systems, but those are only good against aircraft, they are useless against missiles.

Actually, this thread has been updated and I added a video showing C-Ram systems intercepting Iranian missiles.

 

[Mushroom]

They were simply tests to see if they could shoot down missiles. In California, if I remember correctly, but I don't remember the year.

Yeah, some kind of missile defense system, it was a major one, I remember they used some acronyms. Possibly SDI.

That would be GBI, or "Ground Based Interceptor". That is for use against LRBM and ICBM, not short range missiles. And they were tested out of Vandenberg AFB as well as Fort Greely in Alaska. That is where the system is deployed at this time.

News flash for ya, BP, the way this stuff works is that it calculates a vector for the incoming rocket. That way it can know both its arc and speed to know where to launch a counteroffensive to strike it in the sky to take it out. If the computer sees that the arc of the trajectory will cause it to land on our troops or assets, it launches a counterstrike. But if the rocket is seen as landing in a neutral area, it lets it go; no point in wasting resources.

Exactly. That is why in 2003 with over 60 inbound missiles, only 9 were engaged and all destroyed.

A Battery has a designated defensive area, and anything not expected to land inside of that is simply ignored. The actual impact location is generally known within a minute of launch, ballistic missiles are really not very maneuverable.

As far as a counter-strike, that is why most countries in the region use mobile systems. They learned from Iraq that you have to "shoot and scoot" when launching such weapons as the US. Generally they are already preparing to leave before it even impacts.

 

[Rigby5]

Have fun

Those were not Iranian missiles, and no anti missile system really works.
That is a stock test footage, and the explosions were flames from the fuel tanks of the drones they were using as targets.
There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Have fun

Those were not Iranian missiles, and no anti missile system really works.
That is a stock test footage, and the explosions were flames from the fuel tanks of the drones they were using as targets.
There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

and no anti missile system really works.

Do any kind of work?

There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

Depends on how hard you hit it.

 

[Rigby5]

You know your posts are shit when you have to reply to yourself begging for comments.

You guys went nuts when that question occurred. Now you have a video that shows Iranian missiles being intercepted and there is just silence here.

What comments do you want? Your link leads to video with 31 viewers.

Is this video real at all? Who told you that it shows the American base being attacked by the Iranians?

If I remember correctly, the attack happened around 2 am. It is the middle of the night, virtually. But your video shows something like a dawn.

If you would watch from a different angle, the sky would be black.It was also in my facebook. And what should it be, New Year´s Eve?

The Phallanx vulcan machinegun system has been around for over 50 years, and is not a reliable means of shooting down incoming missiles.
It was designed and intended for much slower targets, like helicopters and planes, and missiles are almost impossible to stop since the detonator is so small and easily shielded.

 

[Rigby5]

Have fun

Those were not Iranian missiles, and no anti missile system really works.
That is a stock test footage, and the explosions were flames from the fuel tanks of the drones they were using as targets.
There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

and no anti missile system really works.

Do any kind of work?

There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

Depends on how hard you hit it.

Nope.
All the fuel is consumed upon upward acceleration, unless it is a cruise missile or saves some for counter measure maneuvering.

The warhead of a ballistic missile is too small and too well shielded for a vulcan machine gun to harm.
And if it did cause a premature detonation, there would be an explosion, not flames and smoke.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You know your posts are shit when you have to reply to yourself begging for comments.

You guys went nuts when that question occurred. Now you have a video that shows Iranian missiles being intercepted and there is just silence here.

What comments do you want? Your link leads to video with 31 viewers.

Is this video real at all? Who told you that it shows the American base being attacked by the Iranians?

If I remember correctly, the attack happened around 2 am. It is the middle of the night, virtually. But your video shows something like a dawn.

If you would watch from a different angle, the sky would be black.It was also in my facebook. And what should it be, New Year´s Eve?

The Phallanx vulcan machinegun system has been around for over 50 years, and is not a reliable means of shooting down incoming missiles.
It was designed and intended for much slower targets, like helicopters and planes, and missiles are almost impossible to stop since the detonator is so small and easily shielded.

missiles are almost impossible to stop since the detonator is so small and easily shielded.

How fast and how heavy are the shells? Why does one have to hit the detonator?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Have fun

Those were not Iranian missiles, and no anti missile system really works.
That is a stock test footage, and the explosions were flames from the fuel tanks of the drones they were using as targets.
There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

and no anti missile system really works.

Do any kind of work?

There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

Depends on how hard you hit it.

Nope.
All the fuel is consumed upon upward acceleration, unless it is a cruise missile or saves some for counter measure maneuvering.

The warhead of a ballistic missile is too small and too well shielded for a vulcan machine gun to harm.
And if it did cause a premature detonation, there would be an explosion, not flames and smoke.

All the fuel is consumed upon upward acceleration,

And if an explosive or incendiary shell hits it at 1000 ft/sec?

The warhead of a ballistic missile is too small and too well shielded

How does the warhead go off if you knock out a chunk of wiring?
If you hit a battery or a proximity sensor?
And what is this magic shield that can stop a 20mm shell at 700 mph?

And if it did cause a premature detonation, there would be an explosion, not flames and smoke.

You don't need to detonate the warhead, just disrupt it.

 

[Rigby5]

You know your posts are shit when you have to reply to yourself begging for comments.

You guys went nuts when that question occurred. Now you have a video that shows Iranian missiles being intercepted and there is just silence here.

What comments do you want? Your link leads to video with 31 viewers.

Is this video real at all? Who told you that it shows the American base being attacked by the Iranians?

If I remember correctly, the attack happened around 2 am. It is the middle of the night, virtually. But your video shows something like a dawn.

If you would watch from a different angle, the sky would be black.It was also in my facebook. And what should it be, New Year´s Eve?

The Phallanx vulcan machinegun system has been around for over 50 years, and is not a reliable means of shooting down incoming missiles.
It was designed and intended for much slower targets, like helicopters and planes, and missiles are almost impossible to stop since the detonator is so small and easily shielded.

missiles are almost impossible to stop since the detonator is so small and easily shielded.

How fast and how heavy are the shells? Why does one have to hit the detonator?

The speed of the phalanx vulcan machine guns is not very relevant because there is too much movement and distance for multiple hits to be coincident, and the velocity would be reduced by the range and vertical angle.

Incoming projectiles typically are heavily shielded because they want to prevent premature detonation on the surface, and are intended to penetrate as far as possible before detonation.
So unless you perfectly hit the detonator, it is not going to go off and be stopped.
The empty fuel tank of engines are irrelevant and only throw off the aiming radar.

 

[Bleipriester]

Have fun

Those were not Iranian missiles, and no anti missile system really works.
That is a stock test footage, and the explosions were flames from the fuel tanks of the drones they were using as targets.
There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

"A land variant, known as the LPWS (Land Phalanx Weapon System), part of the C-RAM system, has recently been deployed in a short range missile defense role, to counter incoming rockets, artillery and mortar fire."

Phalanx CIWS - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You know your posts are shit when you have to reply to yourself begging for comments.

You guys went nuts when that question occurred. Now you have a video that shows Iranian missiles being intercepted and there is just silence here.

What comments do you want? Your link leads to video with 31 viewers.

Is this video real at all? Who told you that it shows the American base being attacked by the Iranians?

If I remember correctly, the attack happened around 2 am. It is the middle of the night, virtually. But your video shows something like a dawn.

If you would watch from a different angle, the sky would be black.It was also in my facebook. And what should it be, New Year´s Eve?

The Phallanx vulcan machinegun system has been around for over 50 years, and is not a reliable means of shooting down incoming missiles.
It was designed and intended for much slower targets, like helicopters and planes, and missiles are almost impossible to stop since the detonator is so small and easily shielded.

missiles are almost impossible to stop since the detonator is so small and easily shielded.

How fast and how heavy are the shells? Why does one have to hit the detonator?

The speed of the phalanx vulcan machine guns is not very relevant because there is too much movement and distance for multiple hits to be coincident, and the velocity would be reduced by the range and vertical angle.

Incoming projectiles typically are heavily shielded because they want to prevent premature detonation on the surface, and are intended to penetrate as far as possible before detonation.
So unless you perfectly hit the detonator, it is not going to go off and be stopped.
The empty fuel tank of engines are irrelevant and only throw off the aiming radar.

The speed of the phalanx vulcan machine guns is not very relevant

Hit your incoming missile with a shell, it's pretty damn relevant.

and are intended to penetrate as far as possible before detonation.

Not every missile is intended to penetrate the surface.

So unless you perfectly hit the detonator, it is not going to go off and be stopped.

You don't have to detonate the warhead to stop it from hitting the target.

 

[Rigby5]

Have fun

Those were not Iranian missiles, and no anti missile system really works.
That is a stock test footage, and the explosions were flames from the fuel tanks of the drones they were using as targets.
There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

and no anti missile system really works.

Do any kind of work?

There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

Depends on how hard you hit it.

Nope.
All the fuel is consumed upon upward acceleration, unless it is a cruise missile or saves some for counter measure maneuvering.

The warhead of a ballistic missile is too small and too well shielded for a vulcan machine gun to harm.
And if it did cause a premature detonation, there would be an explosion, not flames and smoke.

All the fuel is consumed upon upward acceleration,

And if an explosive or incendiary shell hits it at 1000 ft/sec?

The warhead of a ballistic missile is too small and too well shielded

How does the warhead go off if you knock out a chunk of wiring?
If you hit a battery or a proximity sensor?
And what is this magic shield that can stop a 20mm shell at 700 mph?

And if it did cause a premature detonation, there would be an explosion, not flames and smoke.

You don't need to detonate the warhead, just disrupt it.

Vulcan machineguns are 20mm, so only have a tiny explosive capability, nothing that could remotely penetrate the shell of an incoming projectile, if they did not glance off and deflect before that even.

Warheads typically do NOT have wiring for detonation.
The shock of launch is too much for anything vulnerable, and the only wiring would be if there was a guidance system that ensured hitting the target.
You do not need any wiring for detonation.

Have fun

Those were not Iranian missiles, and no anti missile system really works.
That is a stock test footage, and the explosions were flames from the fuel tanks of the drones they were using as targets.
There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

"A land variant, known as the LPWS (Land Phalanx Weapon System), part of the C-RAM system, has recently been deployed in a short range missile defense role, to counter incoming rockets, artillery and mortar fire."

Phalanx CIWS - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes, and the phalanx system has been tried for hitting incoming missiles for over 50 years, and been demonstrated as pretty much a failure.

 

[Rigby5]

Have fun

Those were not Iranian missiles, and no anti missile system really works.
That is a stock test footage, and the explosions were flames from the fuel tanks of the drones they were using as targets.
There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

and no anti missile system really works.

Do any kind of work?

There is nothing flammable on an incoming missile.

Depends on how hard you hit it.

Nope.
All the fuel is consumed upon upward acceleration, unless it is a cruise missile or saves some for counter measure maneuvering.

The warhead of a ballistic missile is too small and too well shielded for a vulcan machine gun to harm.
And if it did cause a premature detonation, there would be an explosion, not flames and smoke.

All the fuel is consumed upon upward acceleration,

And if an explosive or incendiary shell hits it at 1000 ft/sec?

The warhead of a ballistic missile is too small and too well shielded

How does the warhead go off if you knock out a chunk of wiring?
If you hit a battery or a proximity sensor?
And what is this magic shield that can stop a 20mm shell at 700 mph?

And if it did cause a premature detonation, there would be an explosion, not flames and smoke.

You don't need to detonate the warhead, just disrupt it.

The 20mm vulcan machinegun has only a very tiny amount of explosive.
Not nearly enough to penetrate any warhead.

Warheads only have wiring for guidance systems.
Detonation system have no wiring, batteries, sensors, etc. at all.

A 20mm can not even penetrate a few inches, and the angle of a warhead projectile makes it much thicker than that. Not to mention the deflection angle.

You can not disrupt a projectile, and can only stop it by premature detonation.

 

[Mushroom]

The warhead of a ballistic missile is too small and too well shielded for a vulcan machine gun to harm.
And if it did cause a premature detonation, there would be an explosion, not flames and smoke.

Vulcans are not made to shoot down ballistic missiles, they can't. They do not elevate anywhere near far enough to even hope to hit one.

As always, you are just vomiting up a bunch of nonsense and trying to completely confuse the issue. If you can not even keep straight what kind of missile a system is designed to hit, why are you even spouting off like this?

 

[Mushroom]

The 20mm vulcan machinegun has only a very tiny amount of explosive.
Not nearly enough to penetrate any warhead.

And this is typical of your posts, which shows that you do not have a single clue of what you are talking about and make it all up as you go.

The Phalanx, CIWS, SHORAD, Vulcan, whatever you want to call it does not use explosive shells at all. It uses a mix of tungsten and depleted uranium to cause a hard kinetic kill. There are no explosives in them at all.

And not only is it not a "machine gun", there are no explosives in the gun either.

But please, this is funny. Please provide your verifiable and reliable reference that the CIWS uses explosive rounds.

 

[Mushroom]

"A land variant, known as the LPWS (Land Phalanx Weapon System), part of the C-RAM system, has recently been deployed in a short range missile defense role, to counter incoming rockets, artillery and mortar fire."

Phalanx CIWS - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes, against shower non-ballistic missiles. It in theory can hit a great many anti-tank rounds (akin to the US TOW system), and possibly even ballistic missiles that have a fairly flat trajectory and are in the right location to hit them. Say a Katyusha that is going to impact 100 meters away and there is a clear line of sight the last few seconds of it's flight.

But the system is simply to "near sighted" to hit bigger ones. It is intended for point area defense, not larger area defense. The RADAR gives up distance for high resolution short in. They can change that, but that means smaller things it could hit (like mortar rounds) will now not be seen because they are looking to far out.