Can the right prove their is a border crisis using facts and statistics?

[EvilCat Breath]

The Democrat socialist facts are there are no caravans and no forces of illegals are trying to overwhelm the border to force entry.

So when all else fails...you simply lie?

Who exactly said there were no caravans?

In fact it's been pointed out by those "evil socialist Democrats" that there have been many caravans over the years and that we have "survived" them just fine

And now it's time to say no more.

 

[Nosmo King]

Lol don’t you think it’s funny you said “illegals killed yet another American citizen”? You’re of course referencing the most recent case I suppose. You’re referencing a story about one guy. Meaning, the frequency at which illegal immigrants commit murder is far lower than the rate at which US citizens commit murder. Go ahead and compare the murder rate between legal, white citizens to that of the murder rate of illegal immigrants.

Not one damn American should have been killed by illegals you dickhead.

But that murder is more heinous than any kind of murder? An illegal did it so it’s especially evil!

That murder is your fault, you and the rest on the left who side with illegals who kill Americans.

When a deranged gunman kills dozens of students or scores of concert goers, the right blames the gunman individually. Full stop.

They do not blame legislators who fail to enact gun control laws to prevent the mentally ill to buy a gun. They do not blame or even cite the capabilities of the gun.

But when an immigrant commits murder, they have a five gallon bucket filled with blame to splash on their favorite boogeymen, the Democrats.

Yet another deflection claiming its okay for illegals to kill Americans because...deflection.

Ya gotta know that after the chair you’re standing on has been kicked out from under you, the rope will creak until you stop swinging.

 

[Correll]

The facts are that there is no invasion and that illegal immigration has declined decidedly and has been for years

30 million illegals living and working in this country says that you are wrong or lying.

 

[BluesLegend]

Not one damn American should have been killed by illegals you dickhead.

But that murder is more heinous than any kind of murder? An illegal did it so it’s especially evil!

That murder is your fault, you and the rest on the left who side with illegals who kill Americans.

When a deranged gunman kills dozens of students or scores of concert goers, the right blames the gunman individually. Full stop.

They do not blame legislators who fail to enact gun control laws to prevent the mentally ill to buy a gun. They do not blame or even cite the capabilities of the gun.

But when an immigrant commits murder, they have a five gallon bucket filled with blame to splash on their favorite boogeymen, the Democrats.

Yet another deflection claiming its okay for illegals to kill Americans because...deflection.

Ya gotta know that after the chair you’re standing on has been kicked out from under you, the rope will creak until you stop swinging.

Ah, you are creepy.

 

[Slyhunter]

We need to stop the next caravan, I hear it's 15,000 migrants this time. We need to cut off aid to Honduras and use that money to build the wall.

 

[Kondor3]

Can the right prove their is a border crisis using facts and statistics?

There exists a minimum of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens now on US soil without our express prior consent.

Most of them are from south of the border.

The vast majority either came here illegally, or overstayed illegally.

You can find it all, sitting on the DHS website.

No further data is required.

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Next batter, please.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Illegals killed yet another American citizen, fact!

Also fact: a legal citizen killed another legal citizen, and again, and again, and again....

Hmm that’s weird. White people are committing murder AND they are legal?! Omg. I didn’t see that coming.

Your stupid deflection is dumb, dummy. Would it be okay for terrorists to come over here and kill people too? /mocking sarcasm Your new screen name is TraitorBilly.

Lol don’t you think it’s funny you said “illegals killed yet another American citizen”? You’re of course referencing the most recent case I suppose. You’re referencing a story about one guy. Meaning, the frequency at which illegal immigrants commit murder is far lower than the rate at which US citizens commit murder. Go ahead and compare the murder rate between legal, white citizens to that of the murder rate of illegal immigrants.

Not one damn American should have been killed by illegals you dickhead.

No one should be killed at all. Yet, you're still more likely to be killed by someone you know of your own race.

 

[BS Filter]

When citizens are being murdered by illegals, we have a crisis.

 

[BS Filter]

Illegals killed yet another American citizen, fact!

Also fact: a legal citizen killed another legal citizen, and again, and again, and again....

Hmm that’s weird. White people are committing murder AND they are legal?! Omg. I didn’t see that coming.

Your stupid deflection is dumb, dummy. Would it be okay for terrorists to come over here and kill people too? /mocking sarcasm Your new screen name is TraitorBilly.

Lol don’t you think it’s funny you said “illegals killed yet another American citizen”? You’re of course referencing the most recent case I suppose. You’re referencing a story about one guy. Meaning, the frequency at which illegal immigrants commit murder is far lower than the rate at which US citizens commit murder. Go ahead and compare the murder rate between legal, white citizens to that of the murder rate of illegal immigrants.

Not one damn American should have been killed by illegals you dickhead.

No one should be killed at all. Yet, you're still more likely to be killed by someone you know of your own race.

No excuse. Seal the border.

 

[BluesLegend]

Illegals killed yet another American citizen, fact!

Also fact: a legal citizen killed another legal citizen, and again, and again, and again....

Hmm that’s weird. White people are committing murder AND they are legal?! Omg. I didn’t see that coming.

Your stupid deflection is dumb, dummy. Would it be okay for terrorists to come over here and kill people too? /mocking sarcasm Your new screen name is TraitorBilly.

Lol don’t you think it’s funny you said “illegals killed yet another American citizen”? You’re of course referencing the most recent case I suppose. You’re referencing a story about one guy. Meaning, the frequency at which illegal immigrants commit murder is far lower than the rate at which US citizens commit murder. Go ahead and compare the murder rate between legal, white citizens to that of the murder rate of illegal immigrants.

Not one damn American should have been killed by illegals you dickhead.

No one should be killed at all. Yet, you're still more likely to be killed by someone you know of your own race.

Step one in reducing the number of Americans killed, deport all the illegals.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No they cannot. All they can rely on is that Trump and Fox News says there is. Of course, how you define a crisis really just depends. Do you think it is a national crisis that ANY illegal immigrants crossing over is a crisis? It’s certainly a priority to limit this, but if you think it is a national crisis simply because it happens to some degree, then you are a snowflake of epic proportions. Illegal immigration has always been a thing. The rate at which it is currently happening does not make it a crisis because migration from Mexico has been declining since the 2008 recession. In fact, Mexicans are leaving the US at about the same rate lol.

So here is the challenge for republicans to prove there is a border crisis. What facts, statistics, and trends do you have that suggest there is a “border crisis”? Again, just because illegal immigration hasn’t stopped yet, it doesn’t make it a crisis. Illegal immigration has always been a thing regardless of who is president.

Mexican Immigrants in the United States

Around 5% of the population of the country is illegals.12 million illegals, and that's possibly the low estimate. There is a statistics for you.

12m is not 5%, fool.

 

[Hellokitty]

Illegals killed yet another American citizen, fact!

Also fact: a legal citizen killed another legal citizen, and again, and again, and again....

Hmm that’s weird. White people are committing murder AND they are legal?! Omg. I didn’t see that coming.

Your stupid deflection is dumb, dummy. Would it be okay for terrorists to come over here and kill people too? /mocking sarcasm Your new screen name is TraitorBilly.

Lol don’t you think it’s funny you said “illegals killed yet another American citizen”? You’re of course referencing the most recent case I suppose. You’re referencing a story about one guy. Meaning, the frequency at which illegal immigrants commit murder is far lower than the rate at which US citizens commit murder. Go ahead and compare the murder rate between legal, white, murdering citizens to that of the murder rate by illegal immigrants.

Um, libs went into hysteria over an illegal immigrant child who died of the flu. You might want to keep in mind people want to stop illegal immigration not just because of illegals crossing the border, but because illegals are making demands and liberals are accommodating their demands at the cost of the livelihood of US citizens and legal immigrants.

If TRUMP agreed to leave things the way they are with the only exception being crossing illegally means a person can ever have voting rights libs would say no.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Also fact: a legal citizen killed another legal citizen, and again, and again, and again....

Hmm that’s weird. White people are committing murder AND they are legal?! Omg. I didn’t see that coming.

Your stupid deflection is dumb, dummy. Would it be okay for terrorists to come over here and kill people too? /mocking sarcasm Your new screen name is TraitorBilly.

Lol don’t you think it’s funny you said “illegals killed yet another American citizen”? You’re of course referencing the most recent case I suppose. You’re referencing a story about one guy. Meaning, the frequency at which illegal immigrants commit murder is far lower than the rate at which US citizens commit murder. Go ahead and compare the murder rate between legal, white citizens to that of the murder rate of illegal immigrants.

Not one damn American should have been killed by illegals you dickhead.

No one should be killed at all. Yet, you're still more likely to be killed by someone you know of your own race.

Step one in reducing the number of Americans killed, deport all the illegals.

Fallacy.

 

[Norman]

No they cannot. All they can rely on is that Trump and Fox News says there is. Of course, how you define a crisis really just depends. Do you think it is a national crisis that ANY illegal immigrants crossing over is a crisis? It’s certainly a priority to limit this, but if you think it is a national crisis simply because it happens to some degree, then you are a snowflake of epic proportions. Illegal immigration has always been a thing. The rate at which it is currently happening does not make it a crisis because migration from Mexico has been declining since the 2008 recession. In fact, Mexicans are leaving the US at about the same rate lol.

So here is the challenge for republicans to prove there is a border crisis. What facts, statistics, and trends do you have that suggest there is a “border crisis”? Again, just because illegal immigration hasn’t stopped yet, it doesn’t make it a crisis. Illegal immigration has always been a thing regardless of who is president.

Mexican Immigrants in the United States

Around 5% of the population of the country is illegals.12 million illegals, and that's possibly the low estimate. There is a statistics for you.

12m is not 5%, fool.

It's roughly, and some estimates put it at a far greater number.

Yale Study Finds Twice as Many Undocumented Immigrants as Previous Estimates

"Using mathematical modeling on a range of demographic and immigration operations data, the researchers estimate there are 22.1 million undocumented immigrants in the United States. Even using parameters intentionally aimed at producing an extremely conservative estimate, they found a population of 16.7 million undocumented immigrants. "

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No they cannot. All they can rely on is that Trump and Fox News says there is. Of course, how you define a crisis really just depends. Do you think it is a national crisis that ANY illegal immigrants crossing over is a crisis? It’s certainly a priority to limit this, but if you think it is a national crisis simply because it happens to some degree, then you are a snowflake of epic proportions. Illegal immigration has always been a thing. The rate at which it is currently happening does not make it a crisis because migration from Mexico has been declining since the 2008 recession. In fact, Mexicans are leaving the US at about the same rate lol.

So here is the challenge for republicans to prove there is a border crisis. What facts, statistics, and trends do you have that suggest there is a “border crisis”? Again, just because illegal immigration hasn’t stopped yet, it doesn’t make it a crisis. Illegal immigration has always been a thing regardless of who is president.

Mexican Immigrants in the United States

Around 5% of the population of the country is illegals.12 million illegals, and that's possibly the low estimate. There is a statistics for you.

12m is not 5%, fool.

It's roughly, and some estimates put it at a far greater number.

Yale Study Finds Twice as Many Undocumented Immigrants as Previous Estimates

"Using mathematical modeling on a range of demographic and immigration operations data, the researchers estimate there are 22.1 million undocumented immigrants in the United States. Even using parameters intentionally aimed at producing an extremely conservative estimate, they found a population of 16.7 million undocumented immigrants. "

It's not. Not even roughly.
12m is 5% of 240m. You're missing about 85m people.

 

[Norman]

No they cannot. All they can rely on is that Trump and Fox News says there is. Of course, how you define a crisis really just depends. Do you think it is a national crisis that ANY illegal immigrants crossing over is a crisis? It’s certainly a priority to limit this, but if you think it is a national crisis simply because it happens to some degree, then you are a snowflake of epic proportions. Illegal immigration has always been a thing. The rate at which it is currently happening does not make it a crisis because migration from Mexico has been declining since the 2008 recession. In fact, Mexicans are leaving the US at about the same rate lol.

So here is the challenge for republicans to prove there is a border crisis. What facts, statistics, and trends do you have that suggest there is a “border crisis”? Again, just because illegal immigration hasn’t stopped yet, it doesn’t make it a crisis. Illegal immigration has always been a thing regardless of who is president.

Mexican Immigrants in the United States

Around 5% of the population of the country is illegals.12 million illegals, and that's possibly the low estimate. There is a statistics for you.

12m is not 5%, fool.

It's roughly, and some estimates put it at a far greater number.

Yale Study Finds Twice as Many Undocumented Immigrants as Previous Estimates

"Using mathematical modeling on a range of demographic and immigration operations data, the researchers estimate there are 22.1 million undocumented immigrants in the United States. Even using parameters intentionally aimed at producing an extremely conservative estimate, they found a population of 16.7 million undocumented immigrants. "

It's not. Not even roughly.
12m is 5% of 240m. You're missing about 85m people.

How's this?

Looking at about 15%.

We need to deal with the issue immediately. Build that wall, deport the illegals, have America for Americans.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No they cannot. All they can rely on is that Trump and Fox News says there is. Of course, how you define a crisis really just depends. Do you think it is a national crisis that ANY illegal immigrants crossing over is a crisis? It’s certainly a priority to limit this, but if you think it is a national crisis simply because it happens to some degree, then you are a snowflake of epic proportions. Illegal immigration has always been a thing. The rate at which it is currently happening does not make it a crisis because migration from Mexico has been declining since the 2008 recession. In fact, Mexicans are leaving the US at about the same rate lol.

So here is the challenge for republicans to prove there is a border crisis. What facts, statistics, and trends do you have that suggest there is a “border crisis”? Again, just because illegal immigration hasn’t stopped yet, it doesn’t make it a crisis. Illegal immigration has always been a thing regardless of who is president.

Mexican Immigrants in the United States

Around 5% of the population of the country is illegals.12 million illegals, and that's possibly the low estimate. There is a statistics for you.

12m is not 5%, fool.

It's roughly, and some estimates put it at a far greater number.

Yale Study Finds Twice as Many Undocumented Immigrants as Previous Estimates

"Using mathematical modeling on a range of demographic and immigration operations data, the researchers estimate there are 22.1 million undocumented immigrants in the United States. Even using parameters intentionally aimed at producing an extremely conservative estimate, they found a population of 16.7 million undocumented immigrants. "

It's not. Not even roughly.
12m is 5% of 240m. You're missing about 85m people.

How's this?

Looking at about 15%.

We need to deal with the issue immediately. Build that wall, deport the illegals, have America for Americans.

LOL

Now it's 15%?
No wonder the right never uses statistics.

15% of the population is around 46 million people. So you went from 12-46 million. That's a helluva range. Way to nail it down for us, professor.

 

[candycorn]

We've had essentially the same border we've had since what, 1960 or so? In that same amount of time, the wealth of this nation has increased by massive leaps and bounds. We have incredibly high literacy, incredibly high functionality, incredibly high levels of technological achievements, artistic exploits that are world-class, industries that create more revenue than many other nation's entire GDP.

It would seem to me that if the Illegal aliens were sucking out a trillion dollars every decade from the country and contributing nothing; our dominance in the financial, technological, military, and even cultural realms would not have been possible over the past 60 years or so. So I don't think there is much of a crisis on the border.

That being said, if you're here illegally, you should be deported. I would be for giving an illegal alien a place near the front of the line if they have been here for a while, have worked steadily, been on the right side of the law in all other areas, Saying "go to the back of the line" seems silly.

So why have lines it you can break the law and get to the front?

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If you’re hiring someone to work in your company, would you hire the first person in line or would you perhaps look for someone who has been in your industry, been successful, and dependable? If we’re going to let people into the country, I think it’s a better ideas to have people who are contributors vs those who may not be as industrious. The first guy in line may be the next Bill Gates. He may also be the next mass murderer. Seems like it’s a no-brainer that if someone has been here a while, has not otherwise broken any laws, has raised a family perhaps, shown up everyday for work, etc… they are the types of people you would want to be citizens not just the first applicant.

 

[OKTexas]

We've had essentially the same border we've had since what, 1960 or so? In that same amount of time, the wealth of this nation has increased by massive leaps and bounds. We have incredibly high literacy, incredibly high functionality, incredibly high levels of technological achievements, artistic exploits that are world-class, industries that create more revenue than many other nation's entire GDP.

It would seem to me that if the Illegal aliens were sucking out a trillion dollars every decade from the country and contributing nothing; our dominance in the financial, technological, military, and even cultural realms would not have been possible over the past 60 years or so. So I don't think there is much of a crisis on the border.

That being said, if you're here illegally, you should be deported. I would be for giving an illegal alien a place near the front of the line if they have been here for a while, have worked steadily, been on the right side of the law in all other areas, Saying "go to the back of the line" seems silly.

So why have lines it you can break the law and get to the front?

.

If you’re hiring someone to work in your company, would you hire the first person in line or would you perhaps look for someone who has been in your industry, been successful, and dependable? If we’re going to let people into the country, I think it’s a better ideas to have people who are contributors vs those who may not be as industrious. The first guy in line may be the next Bill Gates. He may also be the next mass murderer. Seems like it’s a no-brainer that if someone has been here a while, has not otherwise broken any laws, has raised a family perhaps, shown up everyday for work, etc… they are the types of people you would want to be citizens not just the first applicant.

So how many laws and how many times can they break them and still qualify to be special? It's illegal to enter, it's illegal to remain, it's illegal to work and in most states it's illegal to drive. Every time they do those they are in violation of the law. The longer they're here the more times they violate various laws, and you think that should be rewarded. What alternate universe do you live in?

 

[Nova78]

Can the right prove their is a border crisis using facts and statistics?

Your an idiot, go down there and see for yourself.