Can anyone explain to me why Venezuela is a war crime?

[forkup]

I never said I supported the pardon

No you did say that not punishing drug dealers is a crime to the American people. Something you contend Democrats and ONLY democrats do by giving some talking points.

I've given a clear cut example of Trump forgiving someone who almost certainly has done more to help the drug trade then any person on a boat.

Did Trump commit a crime on the American people?

 

[Hafar1014]

No you did say that not punishing drug dealers is a betrayel to the American people. Something you contend Democrats and ONLY democrats do by giving some talking points.

I've given a clear cut example of Trump forgiving someone who almost certainly has done more to help the drug trade then any person on a boat.

Did Trump betray the American people?

I dont know the fact regarding the pardon. Your example is irrelevant. I can give you thousands of examples of democrats allowing criminals to stay free

What was Honduras ex-president convicted of and why has Trump pardoned him?

Juan Orlando Hernández, once called the key figure in a drug trafficking scheme that flooded America with cocaine, walked free after the pardon.

www.bbc.com

Heres a BBC article its well written and they dont have an interest either way

 

[TNHarley]

You're not answering.

You're making claims and refuse to back them up.

Im not answering because its stupid. You are only repeating what some moonbat professor stated. If you sit there and think about it, you would realize how stupid it is.
Combatants dont get a get out of death card because they survived an initial strike.
Civilian structures or something? Very possible. Narco terrorists? Get real.

 

[forkup]

I dont know the fact regarding the pardon. Your example is irrelevant. I can give you thousands of examples of democrats allowing criminals to stay free

Lol evade all you want. I'm using your own framework. And you haven't given ONE example just a generic, Democrats.

 

[candycorn]

You all know by now I an no fan of Trump. Being a little better than Kamala and Biden is nothing to brag about when we continue to have the same systemic spending, debt and theft of our Liberty problems

That said, I need someone on either side if the aisle to explain why bombing Miami Vice Speedboats is a "war crime" but supporting carpet bombing civilians in Gaza and Ukraine's strikes into Russia aren't.

Am I in Bizzarroland?

Anyone? Bueller?

The fact of going back to specifically kill the survivors who pose no threat.

 

[Darkwind]

Lol not American. And why is it that not supporting EXECUTING drug dealers equals doing nothing?

Guess what, drug dealing isn't a capital crime. And should and does get punished including by Democrats on a routine basis.

In fact, last time I checked Trump the champion against drugs literally pardoned a guy who took MILLIONS in drug money. So the mules should be punished and the kingpins should have their crimes forgiven according to Trump.

Look up how many people are dead because of these people and tell Me again how it isn't a capital crime.

But then, a Capital Crime is levied against Citizens, not terrorists.

I think we should get a peace prize for the work.

 

[22lcidw]

Imagine what you’d have said if a Dem had pardoned the corrupt drug deal president of Honduras.

What do you say about Trump doing it?

Nothing. You just hide.

Joe pardoned his son.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Venezuela is a terror state that uses drug money to support worldwide terror and destabilize Central and South America. China and Cuba are allies. They sent criminals gangs mental patients to America by the thousands. Over 100,000 Americans are dead thanks to their efforts. This is an attack on America and we have not only the right but the obligation to respond with deadly force.
Democrats the party that lest criminals run free opposes this. You have to stop and think about what motivates them to defend Maduro

But aren't Mexico and Columbia also "terror state that uses drug money to support worldwide terror and destabilize Central and South America." Doesn't China make al lthe Fentanyl anyway

The only difference with Venezuela is that is has $18 Trillion in oil and a CIA sponsored "President" in waiting happy to sell it off to ExxonMobil, et. al.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is why these are war crimes.

And just because you believe something else happened that you feel are kind of similar doesn't mean that these strikes all of a sudden aren't war crimes.

It's the usual.

"Whatever we do, it's OK because someone, somewhere did something that might be considered similar."

Oh and by the way. Can you tell me why what Israel or Ukraine does is relevant on what the US does? I mean, it's even worse then the false equivalency, appeal to hypocrisy that one usually encounters when doing turd polishing.

We're providing the weapons to Israel and Ukraine to commit crimes very very very similar to what happened in Venezuela. Does that make us State sponsored terrorists too?

 

[MarcATL]

Here's a good place to start OP, have we declared war with Venezuela?

 

[Darkwind]

The fact of going back to specifically kill the survivors who pose no threat.

They didn't go back.

 

[Lisa558]

We're providing the weapons to Israel and Ukraine to commit crimes very very very similar to what happened in Venezuela. Does that make us State sponsored terrorists too?

Now you’re claiming Israel and Ukraine, both of which were attacked by a foreign enemy, are terrorist states?!

 

[Rambunctious]

The USA has been brutally killing foreign drug traffickers for a long time and no one cared... this is just more TDS....

 

[Independent thinker]

You all know by now I an no fan of Trump. Being a little better than Kamala and Biden is nothing to brag about when we continue to have the same systemic spending, debt and theft of our Liberty problems

That said, I need someone on either side if the aisle to explain why bombing Miami Vice Speedboats is a "war crime" but supporting carpet bombing civilians in Gaza and Ukraine's strikes into Russia aren't.

Am I in Bizzarroland?

Anyone? Bueller?

Your brain isn't wired to understand.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Your brain isn't wired to understand.

Translation: I can’t explain

 

[PeterPilot]

CrusaderFrank

Yes Frank, we live in Bizzaroland. Strange days indeed. Rampant hypocrisy with a completely compromised MSM.

 

[Independent thinker]

Translation: I can’t explain

LOL. YOU'RE the one who said you couldn't explain it!

 

[Rawley]

Nope, they can attack until a target is incapacitated. Damaged, burning, with people in the water qualifies and that makes a second strike A WAR CRIME.

And I don't mind the claim that I'm applying something incorrectly, providing you can point out a specific fault.

Can you?

How about if the two "survivors" were in the boat, in communication with other boats in the vicinity and were salvaging some of the drugs that had been the boat's cargo?

 

[forkup]

Look up how many people are dead because of these people and tell Me again how it isn't a capital crime.

But then, a Capital Crime is levied against Citizens, not terrorists.

I think we should get a peace prize for the work.

Who are "these people" The boat was sunk off Nigeria. We don't know their names. The only thing we have is the assertion they were carrying drugs. No proof. If they had drugs we don't know what kind. We don't know there destination. In fact we know absolutely nothing. Yet you somehow think that thos question is appropos to anything

It's also of course bullshit for other reasons. Again these are at worst drug mules. Trump just pardoned a major drug lord. Not exactly speaking for a serious attempt to combat drugs traffic.

As for that last line. What you are saying is that the US is entitled to kill people as long as their not citizens. If they aren't who cares right?

To that I'll say... everybody cares. A nation that thinks international law or basic morality doesn't apply is a nation that eventually will end up without any friends.

How about if the two "survivors" were in the boat, in communication with other boats in the vicinity and were salvaging some of the drugs that had been the boat's cargo?

That might make it not a war crime. The problem is that's not really what's so far being reported.

In that case the strikes will still likely be illegal. Since the rational the administration is giving to not ask congress to approve these strikes is pretty thin. But that'll be a constitutional question probably.

However legally speaking if the strike happened as is reported there's very little legal rational for it to be anything but straight up.murder and likely a war crime.

 

[Rawley]

That might make it not a war crime. The problem is that's not really what's so far being reported.

In that case the strikes will still likely be illegal. Since the rational the administration is giving to not ask congress to approve these strikes is pretty thin. But that'll be a constitutional question probably.

However legally speaking if the strike happened as is reported there's very little legal rational for it to be anything but straight up.murder and likely a war crime.

Well, you should probably get up to speed on the reporting and stop chanting MURDER, WAR CRIME out of ignorance and/or partisanship.

Admiral saw alleged drug boat strike survivors as legitimate targets, defense official says

Adm. Frank M. Bradley saw the two survivors of the first strike on an alleged drug boat as legitimate military targets based on the rules for the operation, a defense official said.

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/12/03/raddatz_survivors_of_drug_boat_strike_tried_to_salvage_drugs_were_in_communication_with_supplier.html

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/survivors-of-boat-strike-were-actively-continuing-drug-mission-admiral-to-tell-lawmakers-b82f0ab3?mod=trending_now_news_4