California screws solar panel customers.

[toobfreak]

Exactly, and they want to tie how much electricity you're "allowed" to use

I disabled the Wi-Fi in the car or at least the one I can see.

Here, I've whipped up a couple of fast and dirty charts to try to convey the gist of what I'm trying to relate.
Here is a chart giving an idea how things are now vs what they plan on once AI is in place:

Today, various factions within society such as the government, insurance companies, industry, etc. (there are many others) operate in running your life. Government collects some data off of you from the various forms and paperwork you send in for taxes, registration, etc.

Insurance deals directly with you.

Various industries and others collect some data via bills, purchases, etc. Then there is very limited and fragmented paper trails shared back and force between some of them.




In the future (maybe just ten years away?), once they get AI finalized, the real role of AI will be realized--- the centralization of all knowledge on you. Everything will be collected on you and sent straight to AI, which will then be able to process and correlate all the data on you simultaneously, analyze it, then send any and all of it out to interested parties as needed.

AI is BIG BROTHER. Everything that one party knows, every other party will also instantly know. If you get a ticket, brake too hard, swerve to avoid a chipmunk, are late paying a bill, say something nasty on social media, or don't mow your lawn, that info will be instantly known by every and any party interested to know to be instantly weaponized against you.

The university idiots creating AI tell themselves this is all about advancing science, saving the world, getting funding, or defending the country beating the bad guy to the punchline, but the real impetus behind it all is one big global brain running your life. AI is intended to be planetary.

It is all about the centralization of knowledge, wealth and power, and the more they have, the less YOU will have.

Take that to the bank.

We are the last generation of free people to be born on the planet. They are just waiting for us to die so to be free of us.

No wonder the Sentinelese want nothing to do with modern man and kill us on sight if anyone so much as touches a toe on their beach.

 

[justoffal]

That disables nothing but consumer services the owner can choose to opt out of.


Then there is a cellular transceiver somewhere in the car. It can be covered with a faraday cage. With an engineering service manual, it can probably be stopped at the board level. My guess though is that when the car's operating system realizes it is not receiving pings back that the car will complain, it will begin to light up lights on the dash, maybe an alsrm will go off, it might even disable the car as a failsafe to avoid tampering forcing the owner to seek service. What kills me is all this crap adds greatly to the cost of the car and they are making you pay for it!


More than buy it, they SPONSOR IT. All of this is designed to more than save them money but to justify any excuse for charging you more.


My two vehicles are from 2000 and 1988. I can say the same thing about both of them, other than an oil change. Better still, there is very little in these cars I cannot fix and work on myself, and neither of them collect data on me. In fact, I can even modify their motors and trannies to operate to my liking (cams, tranny shift kits, etc.).

I'm a big believer in my stuff serving me rather than my serving them.

I am familiar with the concept of the Faraday cage exactly how would you apply it to the automobile?

 

[toobfreak]

I am familiar with the concept of the Faraday cage exactly how would you apply it to the automobile?

It sounds to me like your car must have a cellular connection somewhere, probably contained within the electronics control package under the hood back by the firewall, but you'll have to look into that. You can buy or make a cage then attach it to chassis ground such that it would cover the unit and render cellular communication impossible. You can use your own cellphone to test it with.

Who knows--- maybe the rat bastards put the antenna inside the car or in the dash. Maybe then you can disconnect it where it attaches to the electronics (hopefully under the hood). It would be interesting to see how tamperproof they designed the stuff--- if they went to great lengths to make the stuff inaccessible, that alone tells you they knew going in this was stuff people would not want and would try to hose up, and that they very much WANT it to work.

I'd put it over the box and see what happens. It should not matter to the operation of the car at all except when it tries to do an auto-update of the SW within. My guess is that at some point, the car would complain to you a loss of signal. How and when it does that would tell you a lot.

If it is just a light on the dash or some other innocuous irritant, I'd just ignore it. If it complains like hell to the point of driving you crazy, again, that speaks volumes. I constantly love to stick monkey wrenches into the workings of stuff I don't like as my own personal way of protesting a system deaf to the desires and needs of the people (often forced to) buying it.

Actually, my way of protesting is to simply refuse to buy it. I won't buy a new car because of crap like this. I would drive a ******* Model T before I put up with that stuff. I don't buy nothing I cannot work on and service for myself, after all, who is paying for it, them or me?

 

[justoffal]

It sounds to me like your car must have a cellular connection somewhere, probably contained within the electronics control package under the hood back by the firewall, but you'll have to look into that. You can buy or make a cage then attach it to chassis ground such that it would cover the unit and render cellular communication impossible. You can use your own cellphone to test it with.

Who knows--- maybe the rat bastards put the antenna inside the car or in the dash. Maybe then you can disconnect it where it attaches to the electronics (hopefully under the hood). It would be interesting to see how tamperproof they designed the stuff--- if they went to great lengths to make the stuff inaccessible, that alone tells you they knew going in this was stuff people would not want and would try to hose up, and that they very much WANT it to work.

I'd put it over the box and see what happens. It should not matter to the operation of the car at all except when it tries to do an auto-update of the SW within. My guess is that at some point, the car would complain to you a loss of signal. How and when it does that would tell you a lot.

If it is just a light on the dash or some other innocuous irritant, I'd just ignore it. If it complains like hell to the point of driving you crazy, again, that speaks volumes. I constantly love to stick monkey wrenches into the workings of stuff I don't like as my own personal way of protesting a system deaf to the desires and needs of the people (often forced to) buying it.

Actually, my way of protesting is to simply refuse to buy it. I won't buy a new car because of crap like this. I would drive a ******* Model T before I put up with that stuff. I don't buy nothing I cannot work on and service for myself, after all, who is paying for it, them or me?

Suggested materials? Cardboard frame sheathed in aluminum foil perhaps?

 

[toobfreak]

Suggested materials? Cardboard frame sheathed in aluminum foil perhaps?

It depends on the frequency. That determines the mesh size. There are companies that sell ready-made cell cages or just the material to make your own all over the place.

Just look at your kitchen microwave--- each of those essentially is a faraday cage as well. Look for something durable and non-corrosive.

 

[justoffal]

It depends on the frequency. That determines the mesh size. There are companies that sell ready-made cell cages or just the material to make your own all over the place.

Just look at your kitchen microwave--- each of those essentially is a faraday cage as well. Look for something durable and non-corrosive.

I'm on it!