California Schools Prepare for Thousands of Afghan Refugee Students

[pknopp]

We shouldn't have had to.

We didn't.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

We didn't.

When something like 9-11 happens again to America, WEF/Democrats like this will oppose doing anything about it.

 

[pknopp]

When something like 9-11 happens again to America, WEF/Democrats like this will oppose doing anything about it.

20 years and billions and billions wasted. What did we accomplish?

Those who did 9-11 weren't even there.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Afghans cannot be civilized. We will find that out from the refugees we bring here.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The students aren't required to pray or to use the prayer rooms. They're just available for the students who want them.

Schools have also made rooms available for Christian students to have as prayer rooms too, but again, no student is compelled to pray or to use these rooms.

When I was a kid, we started every day with the Lord's prayer. Except a lot of kids refused to pray. Jehovah's Witnesses will not pray out side of their church. One girl I knew was a Baha'i and she left the room. Every classroom had one or two kids standing in the hall during Lord's Prayer. We didn't have any Jews or Muslims in our school, but they would have been out there too, if we did.

The kids hated going to the hall. They felt singled out. My Baha'i friend told me she hated that people asked her why she went to the hall. THAT is why school prayer ended. Because everyone's religion is different, even when everyone is a Christian.

There are public schools in the California that have rooms set aside for students to pray? Really? Where are these schools?? I thought them dems drove that notion right out of the public school system.

Here’s this:

When considering the law with respect to public school prayer, it is important to differentiate between school-sponsored prayer and voluntary prayer. A school violates federal law by setting aside time or space specifically for "prayer," but that doesn't mean students are prohibited from praying voluntarily.

https://www.findlaw.com/state/california-law/california-prayer-in-public-schools-laws.html#:~:text=A%20school%20violates%20federal%20law,are%20prohibited%20from%20praying%20voluntarily.

Sounds like California is making a special carve out in their law for students if their preferred religion. Christian’s…sorry, this law isn’t for you.

 

[MinTrut]

We destroyed their country, we should take them in.

That's the way it should work, but The People had no say in this, so they should be here on Raytheon's dime.

And Bush II's, Cheney's, etc.

That the social safety net for the most vulnerable is further shredded because of USG and USG-affiliated war criminals is NOT okay.

Let the psychopaths assume the burden.

 

[FA_Q2]

Reasonable religious accommodations has nothing to do with separation of church and state.

That might fly if CA has not been banning and preventing Christian groups from schools for decades.

 

[FA_Q2]

For the left, everything is about power, minority status and victimhood. Muslims are labeled as 'victims' and therefor not subject to any scrutiny. This has been a major problem on the left for awhile now as they are unified with groups of people that would throw gays off of buildings and turn women into property. You see this as they could not trip over each other fast enough to support Hamas.

 

[Thinker101]

Why would an increase in Afghan students mean dropping requirements?

Not necessarily Afghans, my guess is an increase in immigrants may warrant dropping requirements.

 

[Unkotare]

Afghani students I have worked with are very polite, diligent, and studious.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Better Kookyfornia than our schools

 

[Coyote]

That might fly if CA has not been banning and preventing Christian groups from schools for decades.

The Muslim religion requires prayer a certain number of times a day, in a certain manner.

The school is providing a space for this so the student can do this without disrupting the class.

That is it. This is not a student “group” activity.

The Christian religion is not so strict on the issue of when and how to pray. As far as I know, students are not banned from individual prayer as long as it does not disrupt class. That is kind of a key component of religious accommodation, right? That it not substantially disrupt a class or workplace?

If I understand it correctly, California school policies must adhere to Department of Education rules to get federal funding, right?

U.S. Department of Education:

In order to receive federal funds, a local education agency (LEA) must annually certify in writing to its state education agency (SEA) that the LEA has no policy that prevents or denies student and staff participation in constitutionally protected prayer in its elementary and secondary schools. LEAs are required to submit the certification to SEAs by October 1. By November 1, SEAs must notify the Department of Education of any LEAs that have not filed certification.

No specific certification form for LEAs to use has been designated; states should establish systems for processing certifications.

Some student activities that fall under constitutionally protected prayer include

• praying during non-instructional time, such as during recess or lunch;
• reading religious texts during non-instructional time;
• praying before meals; and
• forming prayer groups or religious clubs that meet before or after school.

Staff members also are permitted to meet with colleagues before school or during lunch for prayer or religious study groups. Teachers are not permitted to engage in those activities with students.

Students also may express their religious beliefs in homework, artwork, and other written and oral assignments.

What California school policies violate this?

 

[Coyote]

Not necessarily Afghans, my guess is an increase in immigrants may warrant dropping requirements.

These are typically people who value educational opportunity.

 

[marvin martian]

26 months ago.

So you support prayer in schools. Interesting.

 

[marvin martian]

The Muslim religion requires prayer a certain number of times a day, in a certain manner.

The school is providing a space for this so the student can do this without disrupting the class.

That is it. This is not a student “group” activity.

The Christian religion is not so strict on the issue of when and how to pray. As far as I know, students are not banned from individual prayer as long as it does not disrupt class. That is kind of a key component of religious accommodation, right? That it not substantially disrupt a class or workplace?

If I understand it correctly, California school policies must adhere to Department of Education rules to get federal funding, right?

U.S. Department of Education:

In order to receive federal funds, a local education agency (LEA) must annually certify in writing to its state education agency (SEA) that the LEA has no policy that prevents or denies student and staff participation in constitutionally protected prayer in its elementary and secondary schools. LEAs are required to submit the certification to SEAs by October 1. By November 1, SEAs must notify the Department of Education of any LEAs that have not filed certification.

No specific certification form for LEAs to use has been designated; states should establish systems for processing certifications.

Some student activities that fall under constitutionally protected prayer include

• praying during non-instructional time, such as during recess or lunch;
• reading religious texts during non-instructional time;
• praying before meals; and
• forming prayer groups or religious clubs that meet before or after school.

Staff members also are permitted to meet with colleagues before school or during lunch for prayer or religious study groups. Teachers are not permitted to engage in those activities with students.

Students also may express their religious beliefs in homework, artwork, and other written and oral assignments.

What California school policies violate this?

So you support prayer in schools. Interesting.

 

[Coyote]

For the left, everything is about power, minority status and victimhood. Muslims are labeled as 'victims' and therefor not subject to any scrutiny. This has been a major problem on the left for awhile now as they are unified with groups of people that would throw gays off of buildings and turn women into property. You see this as they could not trip over each other fast enough to support Hamas.

This has nothing to do with that, it is a simple matter of a constitutionally protected right.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

This has nothing to do with that, it is a simple matter of a constitutionally protected right.

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Christian school suing officials after being barred from events for forfeiting game against trans player

Christian school suing officials after being barred from events for forfeiting game against trans player

A Christian school in Vermont has filed a lawsuit against state officials after being barred from competing against other institutions for forfeiting a game against a trans player.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Coyote]

So you support prayer in schools. Interesting.

Yes, within the context I’ve mentioned. This is not teacher, school or government led or mandated. Why do you oppose religious freedom?

 

[Coyote]

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Christian school suing officials after being barred from events for forfeiting game against trans player

Christian school suing officials after being barred from events for forfeiting game against trans player

A Christian school in Vermont has filed a lawsuit against state officials after being barred from competing against other institutions for forfeiting a game against a trans player.

www.foxnews.com

Talk about false equivalencies.

As far as I know there is no biblical or religious injunction regarding transgender individuals, so using it as a “religious rights” issue is thin imo. In fact, the Christian School did not say it forfeit the game on religious grounds at all but because they felt it was unfair:

Mid Vermont Christian’s head of school, Vicky Fogg, said in a statement last month that the school believed “playing against an opponent with a biological male jeopardizes the fairness of the game and the safety of our players.”​

This also runs into Vermont anti-discrimination laws, so you have two sets of competing rights.

Got any more false equivalencies?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Talk about false equivalencies.

As far as I know there is no biblical or religious injunction regarding transgender individuals, so using it as a “religious rights” issue is thin imo. In fact, the Christian School did not say it forfeit the game on religious grounds at all but because they felt it was unfair:

Mid Vermont Christian’s head of school, Vicky Fogg, said in a statement last month that the school believed “playing against an opponent with a biological male jeopardizes the fairness of the game and the safety of our players.”​

This also runs into Vermont anti-discrimination laws, so you have two sets of competing rights.

Got any more false equivalencies?

I have many but if you're going left loon? Nah

You're about as bright as your fellow Shrimp

Best you run along now before I ridicule you