Cakes, Fakes & Counter-Quakes; Do The Kleins Have A Countersuit Against The Lesbians?

[Pop23]

OH NOW ANNULMENTS ARE OK?

Come back when you get your stories straight!

I think Annulments are the Church shaking people down...

Either you are appointing bakers as Theological Judges or you are not.

Opinion noted

Don’t take much of a judge to recognize that a “gay wedding” is the opposite of “go forward and sin no more”.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Opinion noted

Don’t take much of a judge to recognize that a “gay wedding” is the opposite of “go forward and sin no more”.

I know you move the goal posts often, but remember your claim was about the Catholic Church - not Jesus say "go forward and sin no more".

Under Catholic Church doctrine a person that remarries (without an annulment or the death of a spouse) is living in sin.



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[rightwinger]

As a Catholic, my church does not recognize divorce

Should Catholic bakers refuse to bake wedding cakes for people who are divorced?

There are a lot more divorced people than gays

You realize the Catholic Church has something known as annulment, Right?

How many divorced people looking to get married have had their vows annulled ?

Traditionalist Catholics recognize annulments for the scams they are

No cake for YOU

Traditionalist? You just wake up, cuz your stretching

Funny all the Bible quotes and no one seems to remember Jesus actually found an adulterer and told her “ go and sin no more “

Forgiveness to those who sinned, realized the sin, asked forgiveness, were actually granted forgiveness.

See the difference?

The baker could deny the cake to this sinner if she said “I want you to supply my wedding cake so I can cheat on my future husband” in the same way he would refuse ANYONE who wants him to supply a product celebrating sin.

It really is that simple.

Doesn't matter to a Catholic.
If you are divorced, your first marriage is still recognized. Any second marriage would not be recognized and would be an abomination
A divorced person does not go to confession and have their marriage disappear because they are repentant

No cake for YOU!

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Should a devout Catholic baker be allowed to deny service to divorced people?

 

[badger2]

The granting party to forgiveness is a rabid protection-racket fascist, and christ's words cannot be verified. The avatar from Nazareth came too soon for today's discourse.

 

[Pop23]

Opinion noted

Don’t take much of a judge to recognize that a “gay wedding” is the opposite of “go forward and sin no more”.

I know you move the goal posts often, but remember your claim was about the Catholic Church - not Jesus say "go forward and sin no more".

Under Catholic Church doctrine a person that remarries (without an annulment or the death of a spouse) is living in sin.



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I’m sure there’s a point there. And of course, one should not claim the other moved a goal post, then.....

Move the goal post.

 

[Pop23]

You realize the Catholic Church has something known as annulment, Right?

How many divorced people looking to get married have had their vows annulled ?

Traditionalist Catholics recognize annulments for the scams they are

No cake for YOU

Traditionalist? You just wake up, cuz your stretching

Funny all the Bible quotes and no one seems to remember Jesus actually found an adulterer and told her “ go and sin no more “

Forgiveness to those who sinned, realized the sin, asked forgiveness, were actually granted forgiveness.

See the difference?

The baker could deny the cake to this sinner if she said “I want you to supply my wedding cake so I can cheat on my future husband” in the same way he would refuse ANYONE who wants him to supply a product celebrating sin.

It really is that simple.

Doesn't matter to a Catholic.
If you are divorced, your first marriage is still recognized. Any second marriage would not be recognized and would be an abomination
A divorced person does not go to confession and have their marriage disappear because they are repentant

No cake for YOU!

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Should a devout Catholic baker be allowed to deny service to divorced people?

I see no reason why he shouldn’t, or, if he requires, to ask for documentation from the church that the original marriage was dissolved in such a way to satisfy the church.

I’ve been pretty consistent in this.

 

[badger2]

The catholic baker also cannot prove that the same-sex celibate couple are telling the truth. If the baker demands that the marriage be consummated, he or she becomes sex pimp, just like the theologian that is going to marry them, the one who may secretly wish to be present at the nuptials, the one who always risks disappointment.

 

[Pop23]

The catholic baker also cannot prove that the same-sex celibate couple are telling the truth. If the baker demands that the marriage be consummated, he or she becomes sex pimp, just like the theologian that is going to marry them, the one who may secretly wish to be present at the nuptials, the one who always risks disappointment.

We are talking in religious terms.

By default, a gay couple can never consummate a marriage by church standards

 

[Silhouette]

Should a devout Catholic baker be allowed to deny service to divorced people?

Yes if the cake is celebrating their divorce. You understand the objections are about celebrating the sin, not to the sinners themselves? But if you steer the conversation to make it look like hate of the individual, you think maybe your LGBT lawyers might have more of a wedge on these cases.

 

[jillian]

Please, if you own a business, you have NO business discriminating. But on the other hand, nobody can force you to can do business with, either. IT'S the unsupportable force meeting the immovable object. I want to come out as an a DOCUMENTED legal migrant. Shame on us.

Discriminating against behaviors, unless they are founded in religion, is ABSOLUTELY ALLOWED. You've heard of "no shoes, no shirt, no service"?

is this thread 300 on this subject?

for you own good, seek help.

 

[jillian]

The catholic baker also cannot prove that the same-sex celibate couple are telling the truth. If the baker demands that the marriage be consummated, he or she becomes sex pimp, just like the theologian that is going to marry them, the one who may secretly wish to be present at the nuptials, the one who always risks disappointment.

We are talking in religious terms.

By default, a gay couple can never consummate a marriage by church standards

no one cares. go live in a country that isn't secular if that troubles you.

luckily our first amendment protects us from wackjobs.

 

[rightwinger]

How many divorced people looking to get married have had their vows annulled ?

Traditionalist Catholics recognize annulments for the scams they are

No cake for YOU

Traditionalist? You just wake up, cuz your stretching

Funny all the Bible quotes and no one seems to remember Jesus actually found an adulterer and told her “ go and sin no more “

Forgiveness to those who sinned, realized the sin, asked forgiveness, were actually granted forgiveness.

See the difference?

The baker could deny the cake to this sinner if she said “I want you to supply my wedding cake so I can cheat on my future husband” in the same way he would refuse ANYONE who wants him to supply a product celebrating sin.

It really is that simple.

Doesn't matter to a Catholic.
If you are divorced, your first marriage is still recognized. Any second marriage would not be recognized and would be an abomination
A divorced person does not go to confession and have their marriage disappear because they are repentant

No cake for YOU!

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Should a devout Catholic baker be allowed to deny service to divorced people?

I see no reason why he shouldn’t, or, if he requires, to ask for documentation from the church that the original marriage was dissolved in such a way to satisfy the church.

I’ve been pretty consistent in this.

Ok ....now we are getting someplace

No cakes for homos
Divorced people are out

Now, what about a pregnant bride? Who does she think she is fooling? Should a true Christian sell her a white gown? I don't think so

Atheists raise atheist children.....I don't think any righteous Christian could participate in that wedding

What about a groom who had been married twice, cheated on both wives, had a daughter out of wedlock and was marrying an ex porn model 25 years younger?

Maybe elect him President....but bake him a cake?

 

[rightwinger]

The catholic baker also cannot prove that the same-sex celibate couple are telling the truth. If the baker demands that the marriage be consummated, he or she becomes sex pimp, just like the theologian that is going to marry them, the one who may secretly wish to be present at the nuptials, the one who always risks disappointment.

We are talking in religious terms.

By default, a gay couple can never consummate a marriage by church standards

Should people over 60 be able to get married?
What's the point?

No cake for YOU

 

[badger2]

Everything makes perfectly good sense once the masonic-boy-scout fascism forces things into its homogenizing template, by having the prisoners accept sin, immaculate conception, etc. aka pop's standards
"Men are never more homosexual than when they arrange marriages." (Deleuze and Guattari, Anti-Oedipus Capitalism and Schizophrenia).

 

[Pop23]

The catholic baker also cannot prove that the same-sex celibate couple are telling the truth. If the baker demands that the marriage be consummated, he or she becomes sex pimp, just like the theologian that is going to marry them, the one who may secretly wish to be present at the nuptials, the one who always risks disappointment.

We are talking in religious terms.

By default, a gay couple can never consummate a marriage by church standards

no one cares. go live in a country that isn't secular if that troubles you.

luckily our first amendment protects us from wackjobs.

You've obviously never read the Constitution, but then again, you probably posted from Cuba, so there's that.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The catholic baker also cannot prove that the same-sex celibate couple are telling the truth. If the baker demands that the marriage be consummated, he or she becomes sex pimp, just like the theologian that is going to marry them, the one who may secretly wish to be present at the nuptials, the one who always risks disappointment.

We are talking in religious terms.

By default, a gay couple can never consummate a marriage by church standards

no one cares. go live in a country that isn't secular if that troubles you.

luckily our first amendment protects us from wackjobs.

You've obviously never read the Constitution, but then again, you probably posted from Cuba, so there's that.

Sure she has. In law school

 

[Pop23]

Traditionalist? You just wake up, cuz your stretching

Funny all the Bible quotes and no one seems to remember Jesus actually found an adulterer and told her “ go and sin no more “

Forgiveness to those who sinned, realized the sin, asked forgiveness, were actually granted forgiveness.

See the difference?

The baker could deny the cake to this sinner if she said “I want you to supply my wedding cake so I can cheat on my future husband” in the same way he would refuse ANYONE who wants him to supply a product celebrating sin.

It really is that simple.

Doesn't matter to a Catholic.
If you are divorced, your first marriage is still recognized. Any second marriage would not be recognized and would be an abomination
A divorced person does not go to confession and have their marriage disappear because they are repentant

No cake for YOU!

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Should a devout Catholic baker be allowed to deny service to divorced people?

I see no reason why he shouldn’t, or, if he requires, to ask for documentation from the church that the original marriage was dissolved in such a way to satisfy the church.

I’ve been pretty consistent in this.

Ok ....now we are getting someplace

No cakes for homos
Divorced people are out

Now, what about a pregnant bride? Who does she think she is fooling? Should a true Christian sell her a white gown? I don't think so

Atheists raise atheist children.....I don't think any righteous Christian could participate in that wedding

What about a groom who had been married twice, cheated on both wives, had a daughter out of wedlock and was marrying an ex porn model?

Maybe elect him President....but bake him a cake?

This is a regular thing by the progressives when they start losing the argument. BUT, BUT, BUT

This conversation is about A BAKER, not ALL BAKERS.

If THIS BAKER thinks that any of the above would cause him eternal damnation, then YES, YES, YES!

And if I saw that happening I would GO TO THAT BAKER and tell him he's being an idiot to walk away from business!

Hell, if I were his competition I WOULD MAKE HIS REFUSAL PART OF MY ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN TO NAB THE BUSINESS.

But irregardless, he should have this right based ON HIS RELIGIOUS CONVICTIONS.

 

[Pop23]

Everything makes perfectly good sense once the masonic-boy-scout fascism forces things into its homogenizing template, by having the prisoners accept sin, immaculate conception, etc. aka pop's standards
"Men are never more homosexual than when they arrange marriages." (Deleuze and Guattari, Anti-Oedipus Capitalism and Schizophrenia).

I would try getting out of Mom's basement more. Maybe offer to run a few errands for her?

 

[Silhouette]

Should a devout Catholic baker be allowed to deny service to divorced people?

Yes if the cake is celebrating their divorce. You understand the objections are about celebrating the sin, not to the sinners themselves? But if you steer the conversation to make it look like hate of the individual, you think maybe your LGBT lawyers might have more of a wedge on these cases.

is this thread 300 on this subject?

for you own good, seek help.

I will, but only after your cult begins to lose in court. Deal? Then it will be time for you to seek help as well. Finally.

 

[Pop23]

The catholic baker also cannot prove that the same-sex celibate couple are telling the truth. If the baker demands that the marriage be consummated, he or she becomes sex pimp, just like the theologian that is going to marry them, the one who may secretly wish to be present at the nuptials, the one who always risks disappointment.

We are talking in religious terms.

By default, a gay couple can never consummate a marriage by church standards

Should people over 60 be able to get married?
What's the point?

No cake for YOU

People over 60 can't have sex?

Sad for you I guess