CA governor bans voter ID

[M14 Shooter]

Nutty Newsom just banned voter ID in California.
That means anyone can waltz into a polling place, claim to be someone they're not, and vote.
It's not "no ID required", it's no ID ALLOWED.

If Democrats thought illegals voted (R), you would need a DNA sample on record, and they would test you on site.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Nutty Newsom just banned voter ID in California.

Gavin Newsom bans California from requiring ID to vote

The new law aims to curb conservative efforts in cities like Huntington Beach, where a voter ID requirement was passed in March.

www.newsweek.com

That means anyone can waltz into a polling place, claim to be someone they're not, and vote.

It's not "no ID required", it's no ID ALLOWED.

So to get into the California State Capitol in Sacramento, do they need ID

 

[Oddball]

 

[WorldWatcher]

This country NEEDS NATION WIDE VOTING STANDARDS requiring VOTER ID AND SIGNATURE VERIFICATION.
I don't care if it takes a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
Other states need to be protected from this BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

I don't have a problem with the concept. State ID's for voting need to be free and easily obtainable.

• If there are fees for an ID that is used for another purpose (such as a Drivers License), charge a fee and clearly indicate eligibility to vote.
• If the ID is for voting only it should be free.
• There should be the ability to order a free birth certificate for voter registration purposes that will go directly to the registrar's office for verification.
• Each state should also have an Ombudsman's Voter Office to assist citizens who have difficulty obtaining a valid ID with the power to take actions.

You commented that this needs to be done by legislation. The CA law was passed as legislation.
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As a side, there shouldn't even bee "voter registration" as we know it in this country. Voter registration and Voter Identification when they cast a vote are two different things.

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[M14 Shooter]

As a side, there shouldn't even bee "voter registration" as we know it in this country. Voter registration and Voter Identification when they cast a vote are two different things.

Voter registration ensures the person is eligible to vote, and that he votes in the proper location, based on his residence.
Both are necessary for the meaningful exercise of the right to vote.

 

[BluesLegend]

Nutty Newsom just banned voter ID in California.

You need ID to take a shit in California but not to vote...I think we all know why Dems don't want anyone knowing who's voting. (cough) ILLEGALS (cough)

 

[Oddball]

 

[WorldWatcher]

Voter registration ensures the person is eligible to vote, and that he votes in the proper location, based on his residence.
Both are necessary for the meaningful exercise of the right to vote.

I agree in part and disagree in part.

Voter registration as we know it is based on the outdated British system, but we are no in the information age. There is no need for voter registration as we know it (proving eligibility) because the government ALREADY KNOWS who is eligible to vote.

Instead of "registering to vote" all that's needed is an address change (which is very different).

Then when you vote present a valid Voter ID to prove identification to cast a ballot.

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[Frankenstein]

This was a law passed by the legislature.

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[DISCLAIMER: I support Voter ID laws. So the above isn't about my opinion of whether Voter IDs should be required or not.]

Signed by the Governor

 

[M14 Shooter]

There is no need for voter registration as we know it (proving eligibility) because the government ALREADY KNOWS who is eligible to vote.

I am sure that's no true, at least not on the wholesale level.
The government may have on electronic record a person's birth certificate, immigration status, and current address, but that doesn't mean this information is available to the voting system.
Registration bring all that information into the voting system.

Then when you vote present a valid Voter ID to prove identification to cast a ballot.

Absolutely.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Signed by the Governor

Passed by the Legislature.

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[Frankenstein]

Passed by the Legislature.

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Signed by the Governor

 

[WorldWatcher]

I am sure that's no true, at least not on the wholesale level.
The government may have on electronic record a person's birth certificate, immigration status, and current address, but that doesn't mean this information is available to the voting system.
Registration bring all that information into the voting system.

Absolutely.

Agreed.

But backward. Not bring it "into the voting system". Bring the information together and allow registrars access.

This “Voter Electronic Eligibility Center” system would include:

• Real time access to voter eligibility information via an encrypted secure network to state and local boards of election.
• State and local boards would be able to download voters whose address falls within their jurisdiction.
• State and local officials would have access to querying and updating individual statuses.
• Information would be integrated from various sources which provide input into the system.
• State Department responsible for vital records - births, deaths, etc.
• State Department of Taxation – current address, change of Address
• State Department of Motor Vehicles – current address, change of address
• State Departments of State – Court actions and restoration of franchise after removed by court action
• United States Postal Service – National valid addresses, change of address
• Social Security Administration – births deaths, etc.
• Federal Department of State – naturalization of new citizens
• The various Felony level courts at both the State and Federal level – removal of the franchise via felony conviction

#1 Because of the data integration between the various agencies, the idea “voter eligibility” is shifted. There are no “purging the roles” based on inactivity. All citizens are considered active voters.

#2 It prevents non-citizen's from voting as "voters" are checked in-real-time when a ballot is cast.

#3 It prevents casting multiple vote and/or being registered to vote in multiple precincts.

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[WorldWatcher]

Signed by the Governor

Passed by the Legislature.

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[M14 Shooter]

Agreed.
But backward. Not bring it "into the voting system". Bring the information together and allow registrars access.

Registrars. Who register voters.

I have no doubt the information could be shared / made accessible among agencies - and this would require access by and from all 50 states - but until is, voter registration, where someone takes the information to a registrar, is necessary..

An even if the system it automatic, it performs the same function as the current system:
-Determines eligibility
-Determines where you vote

 

[WorldWatcher]

Registrars. Who register voters.

Ok we change their title. Instead of Registrar, call them Election Official, County Clerk, etc.

I have no doubt the information could be shared / made accessible among agencies - and this would require access by and from all 50 states - but until is, voter registration, where someone takes the information to a registrar, is necessary..

An even if the system it automatic, it performs the same function as the current system:
-Determines eligibility
-Determines where you vote

Correct, it's a future vision. Not what happens today.

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