But, we only want gay marriage....once we get that, then we will come after your churches....

[Anathema]

There's already legal precedence for this.

Churches that preach racism do not get a tax exemption. For instance, Richard Hale's "World Church of the Creator" does not get a tax exemption for their views that God opposes race mixing.

So once you've established that sexual orientation is indeed a protected status under the law, churches that discriminate should lose their tax exemption

You know what, I can agree with that, based on logic, if not on ideology. Just realize it means that many of these churches will go down the road I do... if the Government is forcing me to support the poor and such through taxes, then there is no need for me to do any more chatty beyond that. For me it’s an ideological choice. For the churches it will be a financial one.,

 

[JoeB131]

Churches aren't businesses dummy.

Sure they are.. They are in the "Salvation" business. They sell this product called "Salvation", which is great to treat people's natural fear of death.

It's kind of a placebo, of course.

 

[2aguy]

Beto........he will go after the tax exempt status of any church that refuses to do gay weddings....

The democrats hate the Constitution and freedom...the 1st and 2nd Amendments will not exist if the democrat get total power....

Beto Vows to Strip Tax-Exempt Status From Churches That Oppose Gay Marriage

Barack Obama's IRS may have targeted conservative groups for extra scrutiny, but Obama never pledged to strip tax-exempt status from organizations that disagreed with his position on an issue.

Yet on Thursday, former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas) said he would strip tax-exempt status from any religious organization that supports traditional marriage, defined as one man and one woman. In fact, his position essentially amounts to a government preference for pro-gay marriage religious bodies that likely violates the Establishment Clause.

CNN's Don Lemon quoted O'Rourke's policy on LGBT issues, which states: "Freedom of religion is a fundamental right but it should not be used to discriminate."

"Do you think religious institutions — like colleges, churches, charities — should they lose their tax-exempt status if they oppose same-sex marriage?" Lemon asked.

"Yes," O'Rourke replied — to loud applause from the audience.

There's already legal precedence for this.

Churches that preach racism do not get a tax exemption. For instance, Richard Hale's "World Church of the Creator" does not get a tax exemption for their views that God opposes race mixing.

So once you've established that sexual orientation is indeed a protected status under the law, churches that discriminate should lose their tax exemption.

Me. Personally, I think all churches should lose their tax exemption and be subject to taxes, just like the rest of us. Would be nice to see all these pastors driving around in luxury cars and living in mansions with air conditioned dog houses get the kind of scrutiny regular folks get.

This kind of falls into the "God didn't change his mind, so we did" category. In 50 years, all the churches will be denying they had anything to do with the homophobia, and they'll say, "Well, that was the OLD Testament" when asked about homophobia, just like they do now when anyone asks them about slavery and witch-burning.

I would love to know if Beto would go after Imams in mosques too, since they oppose gay marriage as well?

Or does this only apply to white evangelical Christians.

Sounds fair to me. Islamophobic **** always finding a way to hate on Muslims. She thinks there are Muslims hiding in her closet, waiting to get her... big, swarthy Islamic men with scimitars.... but enough about her fantasies.

Islam opposes gay marriage, you cretin. Would they be losing their tax exempt status too, or do you just have the white evangelicals?

Nation of islam....obama's buddy the racist, anti-semite louis farrakhan....

 

[beagle9]

You liar. That was not sarcasm. You're not fooling me or anyone

Oh, I am having lots of laughs at your expense... you just don't get it.

Government has NO PLACE in the churches. There is a reason they have tax exempt status. Churches need to challenge where the state thinks they have power. They dont. Government will lose

Not really the issue here. The question is, should the laws that apply to the rest of us apply to churches.

For instance, if I were to start a Temple of Quetzalcoatl and we did Virgin Sacrifices every new moon, you are damned straight that they'd arrest me for murder.

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So, yeah, if we have a law that says your business can't discriminate against people on the basis of race or sexual orientation ... that should apply to the Churches.

Churches aren't businesses dummy.

How duped you are.

Yes there are Churches that have been run in a corrupt way, and are run by corrupt infiltratrators, but those people are investigated, busted, and the preservation of our most treasured time honored traditions remain intact. Corruption isn't bound by any labels or specific institution's, and so it is that corruption can be found in anything, anywhere, and at anytime.

Targeting corruption for a corrupt reasoning seems to be the new norm in America.

The reason our time honored institution's are attacked over perceived corruption that is found in all institution's or walks of life, is basically because we have those in the world that want to create their own way of life be it here in America or out in the world, and they think that American institution's are against them or are in their way. So if something gets in their way, then the attacks are on, and regardless of these attacks having to go against powerful institution's that go back for centuries, uhh it matters not to the attackers. American's have witnessed this over time now. Why people think that Churches are in their way just baffles the mind really.

Churches are volunteer institution's that use charity as their support system, and our government believing in the institution of Church, also gives to it's causes in the forms of charity (tax exempt) "equally", as so not to discriminate against any that it deems law abiding, peaceful, and productive in the American society in which they both serve within.

The people in a majority support the time honored traditions America has supported over the centuries, and the up hill battles of those whom dissagree will of course be lost until overall sentiment changes on the many issues involved.

 

[2aguy]

Again, the left lied. They told people that the only reason they wanted gay marriage as law was so they could marry the people they loved......

The truth....it was all a scam to give them a hammer to attack the religious groups they hate...

 

[beagle9]

Beto........he will go after the tax exempt status of any church that refuses to do gay weddings....

The democrats hate the Constitution and freedom...the 1st and 2nd Amendments will not exist if the democrat get total power....

Beto Vows to Strip Tax-Exempt Status From Churches That Oppose Gay Marriage

Barack Obama's IRS may have targeted conservative groups for extra scrutiny, but Obama never pledged to strip tax-exempt status from organizations that disagreed with his position on an issue.

Yet on Thursday, former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas) said he would strip tax-exempt status from any religious organization that supports traditional marriage, defined as one man and one woman. In fact, his position essentially amounts to a government preference for pro-gay marriage religious bodies that likely violates the Establishment Clause.

CNN's Don Lemon quoted O'Rourke's policy on LGBT issues, which states: "Freedom of religion is a fundamental right but it should not be used to discriminate."

"Do you think religious institutions — like colleges, churches, charities — should they lose their tax-exempt status if they oppose same-sex marriage?" Lemon asked.

"Yes," O'Rourke replied — to loud applause from the audience.

Churches lose their tax exempt status when they turn political.

Do they turn political or are they being dragged into the arena against their will ?? If being dragged into the arena against their will, then should they just capitulate and give up ?? Not very American of them wouldn't you say if they did ??

 

[JoeB131]

Again, the left lied. They told people that the only reason they wanted gay marriage as law was so they could marry the people they loved......

The truth....it was all a scam to give them a hammer to attack the religious groups they hate...

Yawn, Dick Tiny. Churches have to obey the law just like the rest of us.

 

[JoeB131]

Do they turn political or are they being dragged into the arena against their will ?? If being dragged into the arena against their will, then should they just capitulate and give up ?? Not very American of them wouldn't you say if they did ??

Who is dragging them in? The problem with the politically active churches is that they just don't want to tell their followers how to live, they want to impose their views on the rest of us regarding abortion or gay marriage.

 

[Rustic]

Beto........he will go after the tax exempt status of any church that refuses to do gay weddings....

The democrats hate the Constitution and freedom...the 1st and 2nd Amendments will not exist if the democrat get total power....

Beto Vows to Strip Tax-Exempt Status From Churches That Oppose Gay Marriage

Barack Obama's IRS may have targeted conservative groups for extra scrutiny, but Obama never pledged to strip tax-exempt status from organizations that disagreed with his position on an issue.

Yet on Thursday, former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas) said he would strip tax-exempt status from any religious organization that supports traditional marriage, defined as one man and one woman. In fact, his position essentially amounts to a government preference for pro-gay marriage religious bodies that likely violates the Establishment Clause.

CNN's Don Lemon quoted O'Rourke's policy on LGBT issues, which states: "Freedom of religion is a fundamental right but it should not be used to discriminate."

"Do you think religious institutions — like colleges, churches, charities — should they lose their tax-exempt status if they oppose same-sex marriage?" Lemon asked.

"Yes," O'Rourke replied — to loud applause from the audience.

There's already legal precedence for this.

Churches that preach racism do not get a tax exemption. For instance, Richard Hale's "World Church of the Creator" does not get a tax exemption for their views that God opposes race mixing.

So once you've established that sexual orientation is indeed a protected status under the law, churches that discriminate should lose their tax exemption.

Me. Personally, I think all churches should lose their tax exemption and be subject to taxes, just like the rest of us. Would be nice to see all these pastors driving around in luxury cars and living in mansions with air conditioned dog houses get the kind of scrutiny regular folks get.

This kind of falls into the "God didn't change his mind, so we did" category. In 50 years, all the churches will be denying they had anything to do with the homophobia, and they'll say, "Well, that was the OLD Testament" when asked about homophobia, just like they do now when anyone asks them about slavery and witch-burning.

I would love to know if Beto would go after Imams in mosques too, since they oppose gay marriage as well?

Or does this only apply to white evangelical Christians.

Sounds fair to me. Islamophobic **** always finding a way to hate on Muslims. She thinks there are Muslims hiding in her closet, waiting to get her... big, swarthy Islamic men with scimitars.... but enough about her fantasies.

Why not just outlaw churches altogether are you spineless ************? LOL

 

[Rustic]

Again, the left lied. They told people that the only reason they wanted gay marriage as law was so they could marry the people they loved......

The truth....it was all a scam to give them a hammer to attack the religious groups they hate...

Yawn, Dick Tiny. Churches have to obey the law just like the rest of us.

Lol
Forget Asian chicks, you seem to have a obsession of cock… It’s about time you come out of the closet.

 

[Rustic]

You're too stupid to think outside the boxes they put you in

And you're a total jerk on top of it

I'm not the one falling for their little games... that would be you.

Here's the thing. People being Gay has no effect on your life. Not really.
People practicing Islam has no effect on your life.

I interact with gays and Muslims all day, but at the end of the day, I don't have to do gay sex or pray towards Mecca. They can't make me.

On the other hand, thanks to the way that the one percent has used these fears to get stupid people like you to vote against your own economic interests, that does have an effect on my life. Rather than enjoying a nice, lifetime protected union job like my Dad had, we all have to deal with at-will employment with no rights at work.

Joe, you're just a run of the mill idiot bigot who thinks he has a special dispensation for his bigotry

You don't

You're just a bigot and it makes you a jerk

Naw, just because I have contempt for Political Chick's self-loathing, hardly makes me a bigot. Maybe a jerk, but I tried being polite to her and usually get her rambling, number-pointed crazy like she didn't even process what was being said. (but she does that to everyone.)

Hey, I noticed you duck and ran when I pointed out that some self-loathing Asians get their eyes rounded, and asked you how that was any different than a tranny getting his/her dick cut off.

You do realize when Muslims control a country, Anyone in that country that does not worship Mohamed will be killed immediately. The trauma of buildings they behead them hang them or just shoot them/blow them up.
It is the command of Mohammed/Islam… See here

20 Commandments of Mohammad the founder of Islam
1. Thou shall Rape, Marry, and Divorce Pre-pubescent Girls. Koran 65:4
2. Thou shall have Sex Slaves and Work Slaves. Koran 4:3, 4:24, 5:89, 33:50, 58:3, 70:30
3. Thou shall Beat Sex Slaves, Work Slaves, and Wives. Koran 4:34
4. Thou shall have 4 Muslim male witnesses to prove rape. Koran 24:13
5. Thou shall Kill those who insult Islam or Mohammed. Koran 33:57
6. Thou shall Crucify and Amputate non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
7. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims to guarantee receiving 72 virgins in heaven. Koran 9:111
8. Thou shall Kill anyone who leaves Islam. Koran 2:217, 4:89
9. Thou shall Behead non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
10. Thou shall Kill AND be Killed for Islamic Allah. Koran 9:5
11. Thou shall Terrorize non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 8:60
12. Thou shall Steal and Rob from non-Muslims. Koran Chapter 8 (Booty/Spoils of War)
13. Thou shall Lie to Strengthen Islam. Koran 3:28, 16:106
14. Thou shall Fight non-Muslim even if you don't want to. Koran 2:216
15. Thou shall not take non-Muslims as friends. Koran 5:51
16. Thou shall Call non-Muslims Pigs and Apes. Koran 5:60, 7:166, 16:106
17. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as the vilest creatures deserving no mercy. Koran 98:6
18. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as sworn enemies. Koran 4:101
19. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims for not converting to Islam. Koran 9:29
20. Thou shall Extort non-Muslims to keep Islam strong. Koran 9:29.

it would probably be a good thing for you to get out to your mothers basement you weak minded fool

 

[Rustic]

Remember this? The war criminal W wanted to amend the Constitution forbidding gay marriage. Yet, lesbian Ellen calls him a friend. LOL.

Goes to show the upper class elites are all in a big club, happily supporting each other no matter what.

Naw, I think it just shows that we live in a celebrity society.

I have lots of friends who are conservatives. I even have family members who support Trump. I don't disown them because I don't like their views... that would be dumb.

I'm an atheist, most of my family are still devout Catholics.

True, there's probably an unwritten "Don't discuss Religion or Politics with Uncle Joe" rule which keeps the peace.

Now, nobody ever believed W was going to amend the constitution. This was just another case of how they keep dumb working class Christians voting against their own economic interests.

You’re confused, the Catholic Church has nothing to do with Christianity… The pope means nothing to Christians. LOL

 

[Rustic]

Okay then take up Joe's position.

Do it.

White evangelical churches lose tax exempt status because no gay marriages...

but mosques do not.

Go

Wasn't my position, but okay.

Here's the thing. Mosques aren't big money making operations like the Evangelical scams are. They probably aren't even making any money to tax to start with.

On the other hand, the big mega-Churches, the last thing they want to see at their door is an IRS Auditor...

Lol
Now you’re saying the IRS is not 100% corrupt, Boy... you’re a gullible little ****** aren’t you?

 

[Rustic]

So what. You make one tax exempt for gay marriage ban and not the other, it would shoot up to the SC so fast your head would spin.

But I'm glad that here you're not even making the pretense of objectivity

Because some Christians hurts your feelers.

Naw, because Christians are assholes. Hey, frankly, I'd LOVE to turn the Catholic Church upside down and find out how much they paid out to hide all their kiddy-diddling priests.

But one more time, never said that Muslims should get a tax exemption if they continue to support homophobia.

They just wouldn't be all that bothered by it.

Lol
The Catholic Church represents only the Catholic Church… Has nothing to do with Christianity.
The Catholic Church is what remains of the Roman empire… The pope is a ******* child molesting piece of shit… So shut the **** up you clueless moron.

 

[beagle9]

Do they turn political or are they being dragged into the arena against their will ?? If being dragged into the arena against their will, then should they just capitulate and give up ?? Not very American of them wouldn't you say if they did ??

Who is dragging them in? The problem with the politically active churches is that they just don't want to tell their followers how to live, they want to impose their views on the rest of us regarding abortion or gay marriage.

Ohhh noooo.... Obama and the left were actively trying to force religious institution's into covering contraception and abortion procedures in their insurance plans excetera, excetera, excetera and so on and so forth.

 

[Rustic]

You liar. That was not sarcasm. You're not fooling me or anyone

Oh, I am having lots of laughs at your expense... you just don't get it.

Government has NO PLACE in the churches. There is a reason they have tax exempt status. Churches need to challenge where the state thinks they have power. They dont. Government will lose

Not really the issue here. The question is, should the laws that apply to the rest of us apply to churches.

For instance, if I were to start a Temple of Quetzalcoatl and we did Virgin Sacrifices every new moon, you are damned straight that they'd arrest me for murder.

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So, yeah, if we have a law that says your business can't discriminate against people on the basis of race or sexual orientation ... that should apply to the Churches.

Lol
Why even have any sort of religion? You realize Christianity is not an religion?

LGBT Is an religion, Environmentalism is an religion, Gun control is an religion, Socialism is an religion... Apparently you subscribe to all of them. So take your ******* religion and shove it up your ass

 

[Rustic]

Beto........he will go after the tax exempt status of any church that refuses to do gay weddings....

The democrats hate the Constitution and freedom...the 1st and 2nd Amendments will not exist if the democrat get total power....

Beto Vows to Strip Tax-Exempt Status From Churches That Oppose Gay Marriage

Barack Obama's IRS may have targeted conservative groups for extra scrutiny, but Obama never pledged to strip tax-exempt status from organizations that disagreed with his position on an issue.

Yet on Thursday, former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas) said he would strip tax-exempt status from any religious organization that supports traditional marriage, defined as one man and one woman. In fact, his position essentially amounts to a government preference for pro-gay marriage religious bodies that likely violates the Establishment Clause.

CNN's Don Lemon quoted O'Rourke's policy on LGBT issues, which states: "Freedom of religion is a fundamental right but it should not be used to discriminate."

"Do you think religious institutions — like colleges, churches, charities — should they lose their tax-exempt status if they oppose same-sex marriage?" Lemon asked.

"Yes," O'Rourke replied — to loud applause from the audience.

Churches lose their tax exempt status when they turn political.

Like paying taxes makes anyone legit… LOL

 

[Rustic]

Churches aren't businesses dummy.

Sure they are.. They are in the "Salvation" business. They sell this product called "Salvation", which is great to treat people's natural fear of death.

It's kind of a placebo, of course.

Actually it’s the opposite… But you’re too stupid to figure that out. LOL

 

[Andylusion]

Beto........he will go after the tax exempt status of any church that refuses to do gay weddings....

The democrats hate the Constitution and freedom...the 1st and 2nd Amendments will not exist if the democrat get total power....

Beto Vows to Strip Tax-Exempt Status From Churches That Oppose Gay Marriage

Barack Obama's IRS may have targeted conservative groups for extra scrutiny, but Obama never pledged to strip tax-exempt status from organizations that disagreed with his position on an issue.

Yet on Thursday, former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas) said he would strip tax-exempt status from any religious organization that supports traditional marriage, defined as one man and one woman. In fact, his position essentially amounts to a government preference for pro-gay marriage religious bodies that likely violates the Establishment Clause.

CNN's Don Lemon quoted O'Rourke's policy on LGBT issues, which states: "Freedom of religion is a fundamental right but it should not be used to discriminate."

"Do you think religious institutions — like colleges, churches, charities — should they lose their tax-exempt status if they oppose same-sex marriage?" Lemon asked.

"Yes," O'Rourke replied — to loud applause from the audience.

There's already legal precedence for this.

Churches that preach racism do not get a tax exemption. For instance, Richard Hale's "World Church of the Creator" does not get a tax exemption for their views that God opposes race mixing.

So once you've established that sexual orientation is indeed a protected status under the law, churches that discriminate should lose their tax exemption.

Me. Personally, I think all churches should lose their tax exemption and be subject to taxes, just like the rest of us. Would be nice to see all these pastors driving around in luxury cars and living in mansions with air conditioned dog houses get the kind of scrutiny regular folks get.

This kind of falls into the "God didn't change his mind, so we did" category. In 50 years, all the churches will be denying they had anything to do with the homophobia, and they'll say, "Well, that was the OLD Testament" when asked about homophobia, just like they do now when anyone asks them about slavery and witch-burning.

I would love to know if Beto would go after Imams in mosques too, since they oppose gay marriage as well?

Or does this only apply to white evangelical Christians.

Sounds fair to me. Islamophobic **** always finding a way to hate on Muslims. She thinks there are Muslims hiding in her closet, waiting to get her... big, swarthy Islamic men with scimitars.... but enough about her fantasies.

We're not Islamophobic, you moron. We're exposing the non-stop hypocrisy of the left. Which is why you had to default to "You're Islamophobic!".

 

[Rustic]

Again, the left lied. They told people that the only reason they wanted gay marriage as law was so they could marry the people they loved......

The truth....it was all a scam to give them a hammer to attack the religious groups they hate...

Yawn, Dick Tiny. Churches have to obey the law just like the rest of us.

You seem to have a obsession with cock, are you trying to come out of the closet?
Why have any tax exemption at all for anybody or anything? Or are you just a ******* hypocrite? Does situational morality rule your ******* piece of shit life?