But...I thought Australia solved their gun crime problem by banning guns...so...how do these criminals have guns?

[Jake Winker Frogen]

Yes....they do....

92 Australians died last year due to guns (not including suicides)
The US had 15,000+ deaths.
Compared to the US, Australia doesn't have a gun problem.

Yes, we do not have a gun problem.

In fact we have not had a mass shooting since Port Arthur. It was a conservative Prime Minister who tightened gun control after that. Though one can own under licence and certain conditions.

That is what I have been saying.

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

Americans shoot each other like they are playing frisbee.

America has more accidental gun deaths than any democratic country on Earth, you kill your kids and friends and uncles and neighbours like serial killers in a bad B movie.

No, Americans don't shoot each other, criminals shoot each other.

We have over 600 million guns in private hands, and over 19.4 million people have permits to carry guns for self defense....... over 320 million people in the country...



Accidental gun deaths?

In 2018, 458 accidental gun deaths....you moron.

Meanwhile, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....from rape, robbery and murder according to the Centers for Disease Control.....

Who is confining it to accidental gun deaths?

It is also the half wit uncle who shoots a neighbour in a rage or domestic gun violence or crimes that in other nations are not violent but in the USA involve guns.

For instance the UK has recently seen a wave of knife crime, had they the access to guns the US has the death toll would be horrendous, like the US.

I'd shoot someone coming after me with a knife neighbor or no neighbor. See how this works?

Yeah you are probably the kind of Yank who shoots a kid for hitting his car with a frisbee too.

Actually, I am a southerner--Texan more specifically originally. "Yank" is kinda an insult given that southerners used to call northerners yanks/yankees.

This said you really can't tell the moral difference between someone with a knife coming after you and some random kid with a frisbee? Really? No wonder they don't allow the brits whatever you are to play with guns. We don't allow children or the mental ill here to have them either.

I am actually a woman---raised on a small farm but never thought of guns being that important till two guys (one may have been a woman) with long hair in a white van tried to grab me off the streets of Vegas in broad daylight. I'd seen them around for a few days as I quickly walked home from Binion's Casino where I worked, but I didn't see them that day till it was too late as they came up behind me with the van door open trying to grab me. The two guys in a truck behind them saw them and chased them off though. Within 3 days, I had purchased a new hand gun.....even till this day, I wish I had it and shot them because I am pretty sure that they had other victims who weren't as lucky as I am.

That is an interesting story, I mean that sincerely.

Thanks for sharing that.

If I lived in America I would probably have a gun too.

There is just no need for one in Australia.

Given your snake problems--- I couldn't imagine being without one there either.

I have a friend who found a King Brown in his bath room.

Yikes.

But we know how to deal with them without killing them.

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

Americans shoot each other like they are playing frisbee.

America has more accidental gun deaths than any democratic country on Earth, you kill your kids and friends and uncles and neighbours like serial killers in a bad B movie.

No, Americans don't shoot each other, criminals shoot each other.

We have over 600 million guns in private hands, and over 19.4 million people have permits to carry guns for self defense....... over 320 million people in the country...



Accidental gun deaths?

In 2018, 458 accidental gun deaths....you moron.

Meanwhile, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....from rape, robbery and murder according to the Centers for Disease Control.....

Who is confining it to accidental gun deaths?

It is also the half wit uncle who shoots a neighbour in a rage or domestic gun violence or crimes that in other nations are not violent but in the USA involve guns.

For instance the UK has recently seen a wave of knife crime, had they the access to guns the US has the death toll would be horrendous, like the US.

I'd shoot someone coming after me with a knife neighbor or no neighbor. See how this works?

Yeah you are probably the kind of Yank who shoots a kid for hitting his car with a frisbee too.

Actually, I am a southerner--Texan more specifically originally. "Yank" is kinda an insult given that southerners used to call northerners yanks/yankees.

This said you really can't tell the moral difference between someone with a knife coming after you and some random kid with a frisbee? Really? No wonder they don't allow the brits whatever you are to play with guns. We don't allow children or the mental ill here to have them either.

I am actually a woman---raised on a small farm but never thought of guns being that important till two guys (one may have been a woman) with long hair in a white van tried to grab me off the streets of Vegas in broad daylight. I'd seen them around for a few days as I quickly walked home from Binion's Casino where I worked, but I didn't see them that day till it was too late as they came up behind me with the van door open trying to grab me. The two guys in a truck behind them saw them and chased them off though. Within 3 days, I had purchased a new hand gun.....even till this day, I wish I had it and shot them because I am pretty sure that they had other victims who weren't as lucky as I am.

That is an interesting story, I mean that sincerely.

Thanks for sharing that.

If I lived in America I would probably have a gun too.

There is just no need for one in Australia.

Let me fix that for you...

There is just no need for one in Australia......... yet.

As your country is over run by immigrant drug gangs who will increase the violence around their drug turf, and social welfare programs in Australia break down the family, leaving more and more children raised in homes without fathers......you will see why good people need guns...

It is because our welfare system is more effective than the USA that we do not see the generational family break down the US does, indeed few Western countries do.

We have drugs, but our health system is so superior to the US our addiction rates are much lower, though we need to change our drug policy to one like Portugal, they decriminalised drug use and are the only Western country to see addiction and death rates fall.

I don't think so....you have a tiny population.....and now, with the influx of immigrants from 3rd world countries you will be facing the same problems the U.S. has...

Since then the system has grown and evolved into a network of 1,700 providers across Australia, with companies competing for public money and the right to triage some 750,000 unemployed people on Newstart into a series of government schemes with questionable outcomes such as Work for the Dole, ParentsNext and the PaTh Program.

The nightmare of Australia's welfare system: 'At the push of a button, my working life was erased'

Six people recount their interactions with Centrelink and the government’s welfare programs, which range from absurd to frustrating to insulting

www.theguardian.com

We have a much more rational immigration policy and complete control of our borders.

Now granted that is more easy as we are an island continent, but we will never have the immigration problems that affect the USA and much of Europe.

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

Americans shoot each other like they are playing frisbee.

America has more accidental gun deaths than any democratic country on Earth, you kill your kids and friends and uncles and neighbours like serial killers in a bad B movie.

No, Americans don't shoot each other, criminals shoot each other.

We have over 600 million guns in private hands, and over 19.4 million people have permits to carry guns for self defense....... over 320 million people in the country...



Accidental gun deaths?

In 2018, 458 accidental gun deaths....you moron.

Meanwhile, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....from rape, robbery and murder according to the Centers for Disease Control.....

Who is confining it to accidental gun deaths?

It is also the half wit uncle who shoots a neighbour in a rage or domestic gun violence or crimes that in other nations are not violent but in the USA involve guns.

For instance the UK has recently seen a wave of knife crime, had they the access to guns the US has the death toll would be horrendous, like the US.

I'd shoot someone coming after me with a knife neighbor or no neighbor. See how this works?

Yeah you are probably the kind of Yank who shoots a kid for hitting his car with a frisbee too.

Actually, I am a southerner--Texan more specifically originally. "Yank" is kinda an insult given that southerners used to call northerners yanks/yankees.

This said you really can't tell the moral difference between someone with a knife coming after you and some random kid with a frisbee? Really? No wonder they don't allow the brits whatever you are to play with guns. We don't allow children or the mental ill here to have them either.

I am actually a woman---raised on a small farm but never thought of guns being that important till two guys (one may have been a woman) with long hair in a white van tried to grab me off the streets of Vegas in broad daylight. I'd seen them around for a few days as I quickly walked home from Binion's Casino where I worked, but I didn't see them that day till it was too late as they came up behind me with the van door open trying to grab me. The two guys in a truck behind them saw them and chased them off though. Within 3 days, I had purchased a new hand gun.....even till this day, I wish I had it and shot them because I am pretty sure that they had other victims who weren't as lucky as I am.

That is an interesting story, I mean that sincerely.

Thanks for sharing that.

If I lived in America I would probably have a gun too.

There is just no need for one in Australia.

Let me fix that for you...

There is just no need for one in Australia......... yet.

As your country is over run by immigrant drug gangs who will increase the violence around their drug turf, and social welfare programs in Australia break down the family, leaving more and more children raised in homes without fathers......you will see why good people need guns...

It is because our welfare system is more effective than the USA that we do not see the generational family break down the US does, indeed few Western countries do.

We have drugs, but our health system is so superior to the US our addiction rates are much lower, though we need to change our drug policy to one like Portugal, they decriminalised drug use and are the only Western country to see addiction and death rates fall.

I don't think so....you have a tiny population.....and now, with the influx of immigrants from 3rd world countries you will be facing the same problems the U.S. has...

Since then the system has grown and evolved into a network of 1,700 providers across Australia, with companies competing for public money and the right to triage some 750,000 unemployed people on Newstart into a series of government schemes with questionable outcomes such as Work for the Dole, ParentsNext and the PaTh Program.

The nightmare of Australia's welfare system: 'At the push of a button, my working life was erased'

Six people recount their interactions with Centrelink and the government’s welfare programs, which range from absurd to frustrating to insulting

www.theguardian.com

We have a much more rational immigration policy and complete control of our borders.

You come unwelcome or the wrong way your are locked up until you leave or are deported.

Now granted that is more easy as we are an island continent, but we will never have the immigration problems that affect the USA and much of Europe.

 

[Dr Grump]

Yes, we do not have a gun problem.

In fact we have not had a mass shooting since Port Arthur. It was a conservative Prime Minister who tightened gun control after that. Though one can own under licence and certain conditions.

That is what I have been saying.

Well, there was that shooting up in Darwin last year, but since Bryant, nada.

 

[Dr Grump]

Let me fix that for you...

There is just no need for one in Australia......... yet.

As your country is over run by immigrant drug gangs who will increase the violence around their drug turf, and social welfare programs in Australia break down the family, leaving more and more children raised in homes without fathers......you will see why good people need guns...

Bollocks. Different folks different strokes. Your second is half the problem. Plus a disjointed policing system.
Stop blaming immigrants and others for your gun culture. Own it. It's yours.

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

Yes, we do not have a gun problem.

In fact we have not had a mass shooting since Port Arthur. It was a conservative Prime Minister who tightened gun control after that. Though one can own under licence and certain conditions.

That is what I have been saying.

Well, there was that shooting up in Darwin last year, but since Bryant, nada.

Yeah four dead, that is considered a tragedy in Australia, in Chicago that would be a calm day.

 

[Dr Grump]

Yes, we do not have a gun problem.

In fact we have not had a mass shooting since Port Arthur. It was a conservative Prime Minister who tightened gun control after that. Though one can own under licence and certain conditions.

That is what I have been saying.

Well, there was that shooting up in Darwin last year, but since Bryant, nada.

Yeah four dead, that is considered a tragedy in Australia, in Chicago that would be a calm day.

Yep.
What part of Aussie are you in?

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

Yes, we do not have a gun problem.

In fact we have not had a mass shooting since Port Arthur. It was a conservative Prime Minister who tightened gun control after that. Though one can own under licence and certain conditions.

That is what I have been saying.

Well, there was that shooting up in Darwin last year, but since Bryant, nada.

Yeah four dead, that is considered a tragedy in Australia, in Chicago that would be a calm day.

Yep.
What part of Aussie are you in?

I live in Perth.

I actually went to the beach yesterday and was not taken by a Great White.

That was a good day.

 

[ReinyDays]

I live in Perth.
I actually went to the beach yesterday and was not taken by a Great White.
That was a good day.

Funny ... everything in Australia will kill you ...

Thank you for the corrections to the OP ... I though he had this whole "guns are banned in Australia" rhetoric wrong ... it's more restrictive there than here, but not outright banned ...

On average, 25 people per year are shot dead by toddlers in the US ... 2- or 3-year-olds with guns ... unheard of in the rest of the world ... put that in your "Only in the United States" basket ...

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

I live in Perth.
I actually went to the beach yesterday and was not taken by a Great White.
That was a good day.

Funny ... everything in Australia will kill you ...

Thank you for the corrections to the OP ... I though he had this whole "guns are banned in Australia" rhetoric wrong ... it's more restrictive there than here, but not outright banned ...

On average, 25 people per year are shot dead by toddlers in the US ... 2- or 3-year-olds with guns ... unheard of in the rest of the world ... put that in your "Only in the United States" basket ...

Yes you can apply to own fire arms here but there usually has to be an occupational reason


Like farmer or commercial hunter.

There are conditions for personal ownership or collecting as well, but I do not know what they are. The restrictions would be tight.

We also have gun clubs for people who want to recreationally shoot.

I took my son to one last year, he was a natural and I could not hit the side of a barn!

And I was once got a marksman ribbon in the US Navy Sea Bees.

My son still reminds me of that pretty much every day.

Getting old is no fun.

 

[Dr Grump]

I live in Perth.

I actually went to the beach yesterday and was not taken by a Great White.

That was a good day.

My other half landed in Perth as a refugee from Vietnam in the 70s. Then moved to Sydney, then back to Perth for a couple of years for a business venture, then back to Sydney.

Been to Perth once. Nice place. Bit remote, but liked it a lot.

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

I always wanted to visit Vietnam, on my bucket list.

Have you been?

Yeah Perth is farther from the Eastern states than we are Singapore.


Beautiful state but remote.

 

[ReinyDays]

I live in Perth.
I actually went to the beach yesterday and was not taken by a Great White.
That was a good day.

Funny ... everything in Australia will kill you ...

Thank you for the corrections to the OP ... I though he had this whole "guns are banned in Australia" rhetoric wrong ... it's more restrictive there than here, but not outright banned ...

On average, 25 people per year are shot dead by toddlers in the US ... 2- or 3-year-olds with guns ... unheard of in the rest of the world ... put that in your "Only in the United States" basket ...

Yes you can apply to own fire arms here but there usually has to be an occupational reason


Like farmer or commercial hunter.

There are conditions for personal ownership or collecting as well, but I do not know what they are. The restrictions would be tight.

We also have gun clubs for people who want to recreationally shoot.

I took my son to one last year, he was a natural and I could not hit the side of a barn!

And I was once got a marksman ribbon in the US Navy Sea Bees.

My son still reminds me of that pretty much every day.

Getting old is no fun.

Yeah, sounds like the same restrictions we have here on machine guns, AAA batteries, field guns and such ... very tightly regulated BUT these weapons are available to the common person, and the annual license fees are steep ... tales from the desert include empty 35mm and 50mm shells ...

Air Force ... my first NCOIC was incensed his two new airman only had marksmanship ribbons ... had us check out .38's every month and sent us to the range to practice ... my buddy got his Oak Leaf cluster, I didn't ...

Getting old can be fun ... treachery is the secret ... get them young puppies chasing their tails ... very enjoyable ...

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

I live in Perth.
I actually went to the beach yesterday and was not taken by a Great White.
That was a good day.

Funny ... everything in Australia will kill you ...

Thank you for the corrections to the OP ... I though he had this whole "guns are banned in Australia" rhetoric wrong ... it's more restrictive there than here, but not outright banned ...

On average, 25 people per year are shot dead by toddlers in the US ... 2- or 3-year-olds with guns ... unheard of in the rest of the world ... put that in your "Only in the United States" basket ...

Yes you can apply to own fire arms here but there usually has to be an occupational reason


Like farmer or commercial hunter.

There are conditions for personal ownership or collecting as well, but I do not know what they are. The restrictions would be tight.

We also have gun clubs for people who want to recreationally shoot.

I took my son to one last year, he was a natural and I could not hit the side of a barn!

And I was once got a marksman ribbon in the US Navy Sea Bees.

My son still reminds me of that pretty much every day.

Getting old is no fun.

Yeah, sounds like the same restrictions we have here on machine guns, AAA batteries, field guns and such ... very tightly regulated BUT these weapons are available to the common person, and the annual license fees are steep ... tales from the desert include empty 35mm and 50mm shells ...

Air Force ... my first NCOIC was incensed his two new airman only had marksmanship ribbons ... had us check out .38's every month and sent us to the range to practice ... my buddy got his Oak Leaf cluster, I didn't ...

Getting old can be fun ... treachery is the secret ... get them young puppies chasing their tails ... very enjoyable ...

I was not very good at shooting even then.

Was in danger of not even qualifying in the first week, the second week the Marine Gunny training us told me to wear an eye patch on my left eye and get laid the night before.

I got the eyepatch at least.

And the next week was much better.

However I think this is why they assigned me to mortar platoon.

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

Americans shoot each other like they are playing frisbee.

America has more accidental gun deaths than any democratic country on Earth, you kill your kids and friends and uncles and neighbours like serial killers in a bad B movie.

No, Americans don't shoot each other, criminals shoot each other.

We have over 600 million guns in private hands, and over 19.4 million people have permits to carry guns for self defense....... over 320 million people in the country...



Accidental gun deaths?

In 2018, 458 accidental gun deaths....you moron.

Meanwhile, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....from rape, robbery and murder according to the Centers for Disease Control.....

Who is confining it to accidental gun deaths?

It is also the half wit uncle who shoots a neighbour in a rage or domestic gun violence or crimes that in other nations are not violent but in the USA involve guns.

For instance the UK has recently seen a wave of knife crime, had they the access to guns the US has the death toll would be horrendous, like the US.

I'd shoot someone coming after me with a knife neighbor or no neighbor. See how this works?

Yeah you are probably the kind of Yank who shoots a kid for hitting his car with a frisbee too.

Actually, I am a southerner--Texan more specifically originally. "Yank" is kinda an insult given that southerners used to call northerners yanks/yankees.

This said you really can't tell the moral difference between someone with a knife coming after you and some random kid with a frisbee? Really? No wonder they don't allow the brits whatever you are to play with guns. We don't allow children or the mental ill here to have them either.

I am actually a woman---raised on a small farm but never thought of guns being that important till two guys (one may have been a woman) with long hair in a white van tried to grab me off the streets of Vegas in broad daylight. I'd seen them around for a few days as I quickly walked home from Binion's Casino where I worked, but I didn't see them that day till it was too late as they came up behind me with the van door open trying to grab me. The two guys in a truck behind them saw them and chased them off though. Within 3 days, I had purchased a new hand gun.....even till this day, I wish I had it and shot them because I am pretty sure that they had other victims who weren't as lucky as I am.

That is an interesting story, I mean that sincerely.

Thanks for sharing that.

If I lived in America I would probably have a gun too.

There is just no need for one in Australia.

Given your snake problems--- I couldn't imagine being without one there either.

I have a friend who found a King Brown in his bath room.

Yikes.

But we know how to deal with them without killing them.

This is an Aussie neighbour.

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[Dr Grump]

I always wanted to visit Vietnam, on my bucket list.
Have you been?

Yeah Perth is farther from the Eastern states than we are Singapore.
Beautiful state but remote.

No. My sister has been, my parents have been, but not I. She wants to take me there. I might go.
When I was in Perth I was a on a press junket. I was speaking to one of the WA journos and he said that if WA wasn't connected to the rest of the country by land it would be a separate country altogether....lol...

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

I always wanted to visit Vietnam, on my bucket list.
Have you been?

Yeah Perth is farther from the Eastern states than we are Singapore.
Beautiful state but remote.

No. My sister has been, my parents have been, but not I. She wants to take me there. I might go.
When I was in Perth I was a on a press junket. I was speaking to one of the WA journos and he said that if WA wasn't connected to the rest of the country by land it would be a separate country altogether....lol...

There are people here who want it to be.

They are a minority but not small.

Some times I think our Premier thinks we are.

 

[Dr Grump]

There are people here who want it to be.
They are a minority but not small.

Some times I think our Premier thinks we are.

So do I.
Our premier is lucky to still be in her job.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Yes, we do not have a gun problem.

In fact we have not had a mass shooting since Port Arthur. It was a conservative Prime Minister who tightened gun control after that. Though one can own under licence and certain conditions.

That is what I have been saying.

Well, there was that shooting up in Darwin last year, but since Bryant, nada.

Yeah four dead, that is considered a tragedy in Australia, in Chicago that would be a calm day.

Chicago isn't like the rest of the u

Americans shoot each other like they are playing frisbee.

America has more accidental gun deaths than any democratic country on Earth, you kill your kids and friends and uncles and neighbours like serial killers in a bad B movie.

No, Americans don't shoot each other, criminals shoot each other.

We have over 600 million guns in private hands, and over 19.4 million people have permits to carry guns for self defense....... over 320 million people in the country...



Accidental gun deaths?

In 2018, 458 accidental gun deaths....you moron.

Meanwhile, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....from rape, robbery and murder according to the Centers for Disease Control.....

Who is confining it to accidental gun deaths?

It is also the half wit uncle who shoots a neighbour in a rage or domestic gun violence or crimes that in other nations are not violent but in the USA involve guns.

For instance the UK has recently seen a wave of knife crime, had they the access to guns the US has the death toll would be horrendous, like the US.

I'd shoot someone coming after me with a knife neighbor or no neighbor. See how this works?

Yeah you are probably the kind of Yank who shoots a kid for hitting his car with a frisbee too.

Actually, I am a southerner--Texan more specifically originally. "Yank" is kinda an insult given that southerners used to call northerners yanks/yankees.

This said you really can't tell the moral difference between someone with a knife coming after you and some random kid with a frisbee? Really? No wonder they don't allow the brits whatever you are to play with guns. We don't allow children or the mental ill here to have them either.

I am actually a woman---raised on a small farm but never thought of guns being that important till two guys (one may have been a woman) with long hair in a white van tried to grab me off the streets of Vegas in broad daylight. I'd seen them around for a few days as I quickly walked home from Binion's Casino where I worked, but I didn't see them that day till it was too late as they came up behind me with the van door open trying to grab me. The two guys in a truck behind them saw them and chased them off though. Within 3 days, I had purchased a new hand gun.....even till this day, I wish I had it and shot them because I am pretty sure that they had other victims who weren't as lucky as I am.

That is an interesting story, I mean that sincerely.

Thanks for sharing that.

If I lived in America I would probably have a gun too.

There is just no need for one in Australia.

Given your snake problems--- I couldn't imagine being without one there either.

I have a friend who found a King Brown in his bath room.

Yikes.

But we know how to deal with them without killing them.

This is an Aussie neighbour.

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