Bush team hides. Why am I not surprised

[mattskramer]

Look at http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/09/ap3894590.html

President Bush invoked executive privilege Monday to deny requests by Congress for testimony from two former aides about the firings of federal prosecutors.

This is classic Republican maneuvering. It reminds me of Cheney’s energy policy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_task_force.

Eventually the GAO filed a lawsuit known as Walker v. Cheney against the administration. This represented a power struggle between the legislative and executive branches. Judge John D. Bates, a recent Bush appointee, dismissed the case.

Most of the activities of the Energy Task Force have not been disclosed to the public, even though Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests (since 19 April 2001) have sought to gain access to its materials.


Hide hide hide.

 

[Rosotar]

Look at http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/09/ap3894590.html

President Bush invoked executive privilege Monday to deny requests by Congress for testimony from two former aides about the firings of federal prosecutors.

This is classic Republican maneuvering. It reminds me of Cheney’s energy policy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_task_force.

Eventually the GAO filed a lawsuit known as Walker v. Cheney against the administration. This represented a power struggle between the legislative and executive branches. Judge John D. Bates, a recent Bush appointee, dismissed the case.

Most of the activities of the Energy Task Force have not been disclosed to the public, even though Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests (since 19 April 2001) have sought to gain access to its materials.


Hide hide hide.

Sounds like more grounds for impeachment to me. If they don't recognize the checks and balances inherent in our Constitution fine. It's our duty and the duty of Congress to replace them with people who do.

Perhaps with people who at least have a rudimentary knowledge of the way our government is designed to work.

 

[Superlative]

What are those Russian dolls called where you open it and there's another one inside?

This is like that, there is always going to be another person if you keep digging, and the people in charge will not allow those people to be incriminated, or found guilty of any wrong doing.

 

[mattskramer]

Sounds like more grounds for impeachment to me. If they don't recognize the checks and balances inherent in our Constitution fine. It's our duty and the duty of Congress to replace them with people who do.

Perhaps with people who at least have a rudimentary knowledge of the way our government is designed to work.

Possibly congress, and the public for that matter, does not have a right to know what goes on. I don’t fully understand the “executive privilege” thing or why we have it. What irks me is the fact the Bush administration often seems to hide behind it or tell people that it is basically none of our business what goes on. “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain”. If the Bush administration has committed no wrong why are they so hesitant in letting us know what is going on. To be fair, I had the same criticism for Clinton and his problems. Was there ever a leader with an “open door policy”?

 

[Vintij]

Congress can still get those testimonys with a vote, and other congressional acts that check the executive branch that involve a federal grand jury. All bush did was buy some time. Ofcourse that depends on how serious congress is with this case.

 

[Superlative]

What if the evidence dissapears?

Didnt a few e-mails get deleted in the Gonzales case?

People disappear all the time.

HA

 

[mattskramer]

What if the evidence dissapears?

Didnt a few e-mails get deleted in the Gonzales case?

People disappear all the time.

HA

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/23/wh.email/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Clinton administration official who oversees the troubled White House e-mail system testified Wednesday he never told President Clinton about the computer problem that prevented thousands of White House e-mails from being properly stored and archived.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...torney_firings_controversy/e-mail_controversy

"The discovery of a hitherto unknown treasure-trove of e-mails buried by the Bush White House may prove to be as informative as Nixon's secret White House tapes," Sidney Blumenthal wrote March 29, 2007, in Salon. "Last week the National Journal disclosed that Karl Rove does 'about 95 percent' of his e-mails outside the White House system, instead using a Republican National Committee account. What's more, Rove doesn't tap most of his messages on a White House computer, but rather on a BlackBerry provided by the RNC. By this method, Rove and other White House aides evade the legally required archiving of official e-mails.

Yes. It is all practically the same. Neither party is significantly better than the other.

 

[Superlative]

To me the color doesnt matter much, Red or Blue, they both have their secrets.

Always have always will. just dont tell anyone, or it becomes a conspiracy.

 

[Superlative]

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/23/wh.email/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Clinton administration official who oversees the troubled White House e-mail system testified Wednesday he never told President Clinton about the computer problem that prevented thousands of White House e-mails from being properly stored and archived.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...torney_firings_controversy/e-mail_controversy

This could be considered the "Birth Pangs" of the internet.

 

[dilloduck]

Politics as usual--nothing new here.

 

[Rosotar]

Politics as usual--nothing new here.

It sure looks like it would take an AWFUL lot Dillo to EVER convince you of any wrongdoing by any Republican.

Even the "smoking gun" of an obvious cover-up is just "politics as usual" to you.

Reminds me of a quote I've seen somewhere.....

"Some men eventually stumble over the truth but they usually pick themselves and walk on as if nothing ever happened."
-Winston Churchill
-Winston Churchill

 

[dilloduck]

It sure looks like it would take an AWFUL lot Dillo to EVER convince you of any wrongdoing by any Republican.

Even the "smoking gun" of an obvious cover-up is just "politics as usual" to you.

Reminds me of a quote I've seen somewhere.....

"Some men eventually stumble over the truth but they usually pick themselves and walk on as if nothing ever happened."
-Winston Churchill
-Winston Churchill

Both parties are crooked, politicians are crooked and I have maintained that stance for years.

 

[Rosotar]

Both parties are crooked, politicians are crooked and I have maintained that stance for years.

So are you using the statement that "both parties are crooked" to expain away....or maybe even excuse the misconduct of the President?

 

[dilloduck]

Both parties are crooked, politicians are crooked and I have maintained that stance for years.

Check it out for yourself--- Evoking executive priviledge is nothing new.

 

[dilloduck]

So are you using the statement that "both parties are crooked" to expain away....or maybe even excuse the misconduct of the President?

no--I clearly said---"politics as usual--nothing new here".

 

[Rosotar]

no--I clearly said---"politics as usual--nothing new here".

Oh right.

OK so what do you think Congress should do with Bush and crew for this obstruction of justice?

 

[Bullypulpit]

Look at http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/09/ap3894590.html

President Bush invoked executive privilege Monday to deny requests by Congress for testimony from two former aides about the firings of federal prosecutors.

This is classic Republican maneuvering. It reminds me of Cheney’s energy policy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_task_force.

Eventually the GAO filed a lawsuit known as Walker v. Cheney against the administration. This represented a power struggle between the legislative and executive branches. Judge John D. Bates, a recent Bush appointee, dismissed the case.

Most of the activities of the Energy Task Force have not been disclosed to the public, even though Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests (since 19 April 2001) have sought to gain access to its materials.

Hide hide hide.

No administration hunkers down like that unless it's got a multitude of sins to hide.

 

[Rosotar]

No administration hunkers down like that unless it's got a multitude of sins to hide.

Yeah......but you can't PROVE anything Bully!!!

LOL!

 

[dilloduck]

Oh right.

OK so what do you think Congress should do with Bush and crew for this obstruction of justice?

What obstruction of justice? You mean the one they are looking for instead of passing laws and stuff ?