Bush Insists Al Qaeda in Iraq Threatens U.S.

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July 24 2007
Nearly six years after the 9/11 attacks, America remains a nation at war. The terrorist network that attacked us that day is determined to strike our country again, and we must do everything in our power to stop them. A key lesson of September the 11th is that the best way to protect America is to go on the offense, to fight the terrorists overseas so we don't have to face them here at home. And that is exactly what our men and women in uniform are doing across the world.

The key theater in this global war is Iraq. Our troops are serving bravely in that country. They're opposing ruthless enemies, and no enemy is more ruthless in Iraq than al Qaeda. They send suicide bombers into crowded markets; they behead innocent captives and they murder American troops. They want to bring down Iraq's democracy so they can use that nation as a terrorist safe haven for attacks against our country. So our troops are standing strong with nearly 12 million Iraqis who voted for a future of peace, and they so for the security of Iraq and the safety of American citizens.

There's a debate in Washington about Iraq, and nothing wrong with a healthy debate. There's also a debate about al Qaeda's role in Iraq. Some say that Iraq is not part of the broader war on terror. They complain when I say that the al Qaeda terrorists we face in Iraq are part of the same enemy that attacked us on September the 11th, 2001. They claim that the organization called al Qaeda in Iraq is an Iraqi phenomenon, that it's independent of Osama bin Laden and that it's not interested in attacking America.

That would be news to Osama bin Laden. He's proclaimed that the "third world war is raging in Iraq." Osama bin Laden says, "The war is for you or for us to win. If we win it, it means your defeat and disgrace forever." I say that there will be a big defeat in Iraq and it will be the defeat of al Qaeda. (Applause.)

Today I will consider the arguments of those who say that al Qaeda and al Qaeda in Iraq are separate entities. I will explain why they are both part of the same terrorist network -- and why they are dangerous to our country.

A good place to start is with some basic facts: Al Qaeda in Iraq was founded by a Jordanian terrorist, not an Iraqi. His name was Abu Musab al Zarqawi. Before 9/11, he ran a terrorist camp in Afghanistan. He was not yet a member of al Qaida, but our intelligence community reports that he had longstanding relations with senior al Qaida leaders, that he had met with Osama bin Laden and his chief deputy, Zawahiri.

In 2001, coalition forces destroyed Zarqawi's Afghan training camp, and he fled the country and he went to Iraq, where he set up operations with terrorist associates long before the arrival of coalition forces. In the violence and instability following Saddam's fall, Zarqawi was able to expand dramatically the size, scope, and lethality of his operation. In 2004, Zarqawi and his terrorist group formally joined al Qaida, pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden, and he promised to "follow his orders in jihad."

Soon after, bin Laden publicly declared that Zarqawi was the "Prince of Al Qaida in Iraq" -- and instructed terrorists in Iraq to "listen to him and obey him." It's hard to argue that al Qaida in Iraq is separate from bin Laden's al Qaida, when the leader of al Qaida in Iraq took an oath of allegiance to Osama bin Laden.

According to our intelligence community, the Zarqawi-bin Laden merger gave al Qaida in Iraq -- quote -- "prestige among potential recruits and financiers." The merger also gave al Qaida's senior leadership -- quote -- "a foothold in Iraq to extend its geographic presence ... to plot external operations ... and to tout the centrality of the jihad in Iraq to solicit direct monetary support elsewhere." The merger between al Qaida and its Iraqi affiliate is an alliance of killers -- and that is why the finest military in the world is on their trail.

Zarqawi was killed by U.S. forces in June 2006. He was replaced by another foreigner -- an Egyptian named Abu Ayyub al-Masri. His ties to the al Qaida senior leadership are deep and longstanding. He has collaborated with Zawahiri for more than two decades. And before 9/11, he spent time with al Qaida in Afghanistan where he taught classes indoctrinating others in al Qaida's radical ideology.

After Abu Ayyub took over al Qaida's Iraqi operations last year, Osama bin Laden sent a terrorist leader named Abd al-Hadi al Iraqi to help him. According to our intelligence community, this man was a senior advisor to bin Laden, who served as his top commander in Afghanistan. Abd al-Hadi never made it to Iraq. He was captured, and was recently transferred to the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay. The fact that bin Laden risked sending one of his most valued commanders to Iraq shows the importance he places on success of al Qaida's Iraqi operations.

According to our intelligence community, many of al Qaida in Iraq's other senior leaders are also foreign terrorists. They include a Syrian who is al Qaida in Iraq's emir in Baghdad, a Saudi who is al Qaida in Iraq's top spiritual and legal advisor, an Egyptian who fought in Afghanistan in the 1990s and who has met with Osama bin Laden, a Tunisian who we believe plays a key role in managing foreign fighters. Last month in Iraq, we killed a senior al Qaida facilitator named Mehmet Yilmaz, a Turkish national who fought with al Qaida in Afghanistan, and met with September the 11th mastermind Khalid Shaikh Muhammad, and other senior al Qaida leaders.

A few weeks ago, we captured a senior al Qaida in Iraq leader named Mashadani. Now, this terrorist is an Iraqi. In fact, he was the highest ranking Iraqi in the organization. Here's what he said, here's what he told us: The foreign leaders of Al Qaida in Iraq went to extraordinary lengths to promote the fiction that al Qaida in Iraq is an Iraqi-led operation. He says al Qaida even created a figurehead whom they named Omar al-Baghdadi. The purpose was to make Iraqi fighters believe they were following the orders of an Iraqi instead of a foreigner. Yet once in custody, Mashadani revealed that al-Baghdadi is only an actor. He confirmed our intelligence that foreigners are at the top echelons of al Qaida in Iraq -- they are the leaders -- and that foreign leaders make most of the operational decisions, not Iraqis.

Foreign terrorists also account for most of the suicide bombings in Iraq. Our military estimates that between 80 and 90 percent of suicide attacks in Iraq are carried out by foreign-born al Qaida terrorists. It's true that today most of al Qaida in Iraq's rank and file fighters and some of its leadership are Iraqi. But to focus exclusively on this single fact is to ignore the larger truth: Al Qaida in Iraq is a group founded by foreign terrorists, led largely by foreign terrorists, and loyal to a foreign terrorist leader -- Osama bin Laden. They know they're al Qaida. The Iraqi people know they are al Qaida. People across the Muslim world know they are al Qaida. And there's a good reason they are called al Qaida in Iraq: They are al Qaida ... in ... Iraq.

Some also assert that al Qaida in Iraq is a separate organization because al Qaida's central command lacks full operational control over it. This argument reveals a lack of understanding. Here is how al Qaida's global terrorist network actually operates. Al Qaida and its affiliate organizations are a loose network of terrorist groups that are united by a common ideology and shared objectives, and have differing levels of collaboration with the al Qaida senior leadership. In some cases, these groups have formally merged into al Qaida and take what is called a "bayaat" -- a pledge of loyalty to Osama bin Laden. In other cases, organizations are not formally merged with al Qaida, but collaborate closely with al Qaida leaders to plot attacks and advance their shared ideology. In still other cases, there are small cells of terrorists that are not part of al Qaida or any other broader terrorist group, but maintain contact with al Qaida leaders and are inspired by its ideology to conduct attacks

Our intelligence community assesses that al Qaida in Iraq falls into the first of these categories. They are a full member of the al Qaida terrorist network. The al Qaida leadership provides strategic guidance to their Iraqi operatives. Even so, there have been disagreements -- important disagreements -- between the leaders, Osama bin Laden and their Iraqi counterparts, including Zawahiri's criticism of Zarqawi's relentless attacks on the Shia. But our intelligence community reports that al Qaida's senior leaders generally defer to their Iraqi-based commanders when it comes to internal operations, because distance and security concerns preclude day-to-day command authority.

Our intelligence community concludes that -- quote -- "Al Qaida and its regional node in Iraq are united in their overarching strategy." And they say that al Qaida senior leaders and their operatives in Iraq -- quote -- "see al Qaida in Iraq as part of al Qaida's decentralized chain of command, not as a separate group."

Here's the bottom line: Al Qaida in Iraq is run by foreign leaders loyal to Osama bin Laden. Like bin Laden, they are cold-blooded killers who murder the innocent to achieve al Qaida's political objectives. Yet despite all the evidence, some will tell you that al Qaida in Iraq is not really al Qaida -- and not really a threat to America. Well, that's like watching a man walk into a bank with a mask and a gun, and saying he's probably just there to cash a check.

You might wonder why some in Washington insist on making this distinction about the enemy in Iraq. It's because they know that if they can convince America we're not fighting bin Laden's al Qaida there, they can paint the battle in Iraq as a distraction from the real war on terror. If we're not fighting bin Laden's al Qaida, they can argue that our nation can pull out of Iraq and not undermine our efforts in the war on terror. The problem they have is with the facts. We are fighting bin Laden's al Qaida in Iraq; Iraq is central to the war on terror; and against this enemy, America can accept nothing less than complete victory. (Applause.)

There are others who accept that al Qaida is operating in Iraq, but say its role is overstated. Al Qaida is one of the several Sunni jihadist groups in Iraq. But our intelligence community believes that al Qaida is the most dangerous of these Sunni jihadist groups for several reasons: First, more than any other group, al Qaida is behind most of the spectacular, high-casualty attacks that you see on your TV screens.

Second, these al Qaida attacks are designed to accelerate sectarian violence, by attacking Shia in hopes of sparking reprisal attacks that inspire Sunnis to join al Qaida's cause.

Third, al Qaida is the only jihadist group in Iraq with stated ambitions to make the country a base for attacks outside Iraq. For example, al Qaida in Iraq dispatched terrorists who bombed a wedding reception in Jordan. In another case, they sent operatives to Jordan where they attempted to launch a rocket attack on U.S. Navy ships in the Red Sea........
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070724-3.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/24/washington/24cnd-prexy.html?hp

May 1, 2003
President:
From Pakistan to the Philippines to the Horn of Africa, we are hunting down al Qaeda killers. Nineteen months ago, I pledged that the terrorists would not escape the patient justice of the United States. And as of tonight, nearly one-half of al Qaeda's senior operatives have been captured or killed.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/05/20030501-15.html

September 7, 2003
President:
America and a broad coalition acted first in Afghanistan, by destroying the training camps of terror, and removing the regime that harbored al Qaeda. In a series of raids and actions around the world, nearly two-thirds of al Qaeda's known leaders have been captured or killed, and we continue on al Qaeda's trail.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/09/20030907-1.html

October 19, 2004
President:
......And more than three-quarters of al Qaeda's key members and associates have been brought to justice.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/10/20041019-6.html
 
more than 3/4 have been brought to JUSTICE?

I haven't even seen anyone CHARGED with anything since 9/11, let ALONE brought to justice.

JUSTICE is being formally charged, given access to an attorney, and given a fair trial.

I'm sorry if I don't just blindly accept that everyone the government "captures" is truely a terrorist that imminently threatened the US.

Call me a terrorist sympathizer, i don't care.

You say "terrorist"?

Prove it.
 
more than 3/4 have been brought to JUSTICE?

I haven't even seen anyone CHARGED with anything since 9/11, let ALONE brought to justice.

JUSTICE is being formally charged, given access to an attorney, and given a fair trial.

I'm sorry if I don't just blindly accept that everyone the government "captures" is truely a terrorist that imminently threatened the US.

Call me a terrorist sympathizer, i don't care.

You say "terrorist"?

Prove it.

Traitor!

[sarcasm intended]
 
more than 3/4 have been brought to JUSTICE?

I haven't even seen anyone CHARGED with anything since 9/11, let ALONE brought to justice.

JUSTICE is being formally charged, given access to an attorney, and given a fair trial.

I'm sorry if I don't just blindly accept that everyone the government "captures" is truely a terrorist that imminently threatened the US.

Call me a terrorist sympathizer, i don't care.

You say "terrorist"?

Prove it.

ron paul would do this, how? Whoops, in no case would he.
 
When was this intelligence gathered?

He confirmed our intelligence that foreigners are at the top echelons of al Qaida in Iraq -- they are the leaders -- and that foreign leaders make most of the operational decisions, not Iraqis......

Foreign terrorists also account for most of the suicide bombings in Iraq. Our military estimates that between 80 and 90 percent of suicide attacks in Iraq are carried out by foreign-born al Qaida terrorists.

If this info was available before the invasion, wouldnt that be grounds for impeachment?

Why invade Iraq if our intel tells us that al Qaeda is not in Iraq, or run by Iraqi's?
 
When was this intelligence gathered?



If this info was available before the invasion, wouldnt that be grounds for impeachment?

Why invade Iraq if our intel tells us that al Qaeda is not in Iraq, or run by Iraqi's?

Read---out intel says they ARE in Iraq. Sooner or later your going to learn that al Quaeda is not representative of ANY nationality.
 
Read---out intel says they ARE in Iraq. Sooner or later your going to learn that al Quaeda is not representative of ANY nationality.

Yep, al quaeda was there before US. How large? No one has made links between them and 9/11, other than 'leadership', and that may well be a stretch, depending on OBL's death date.
 
Yep, al quaeda was there before US. How large? No one has made links between them and 9/11, other than 'leadership', and that may well be a stretch, depending on OBL's death date.

This is what I dont understand.

President Bush:
"......I say that the al Qaeda terrorists we face in Iraq are part of the same enemy that attacked us on September the 11th, 2001."

Intel says they arent from Iraq, they never were.

We originally tracked and attacked them in Afghanistan.

Then out of nowhere we overthrew Saddam because he was a Dictator threatening the US with WMD's.

Now its all about a problem the US exacerbated.

A problem we were defeating.

A problem that is now just as much of a threat as it ever was.
 
This is what I dont understand.

President Bush:

Intel says they arent from Iraq, they never were.

We originally tracked and attacked them in Afghanistan.

Then out of nowhere we overthrew Saddam because he was a Dictator threatening the US with WMD's.

Now its all about a problem the US exacerbated.

A problem we were defeating.

A problem that is now just as much of a threat as it ever was.

We didn't invade North Africa in WWII because the Libyans, Morrocans or Algerians. You really need to educate yourself about who it is we are up against. If you want to eradicate a den of vipers, your going to get bit once in awhile.
 
more than 3/4 have been brought to JUSTICE?

I haven't even seen anyone CHARGED with anything since 9/11, let ALONE brought to justice.

JUSTICE is being formally charged, given access to an attorney, and given a fair trial.

I'm sorry if I don't just blindly accept that everyone the government "captures" is truely a terrorist that imminently threatened the US.

Call me a terrorist sympathizer, i don't care.

You say "terrorist"?

Prove it.

Bullshit argument. Who exactly are you going to charge after they blow themselves and a countless number of bystanders to dust?

Your logic, or lack thereof, sucks.
 
Bullshit argument. Who exactly are you going to charge after they blow themselves and a countless number of bystanders to dust?

Your logic, or lack thereof, sucks.

The Masterminds behind the actions of the 19 hijackers, those that gave them the direction and the orders and the plot to accomplish 9/11?

That's who we went to war against INITIALLY, no?

Dead or Alive, he can run but he can't hide, Bin Laden and his closest associates and those that funded this from Saudi Arabia, and The United Arab Emirates, from what I have read over the last few years.

No one has been brought to Justice Gunny, I would have to disagree with what it seemed that you implied?
 
The Masterminds behind the actions of the 19 hijackers, those that gave them the direction and the orders and the plot to accomplish 9/11?

That's who we went to war against INITIALLY, no?

Dead or Alive, he can run but he can't hide, Bin Laden and his closest associates and those that funded this from Saudi Arabia, and The United Arab Emirates, from what I have read over the last few years.

No one has been brought to Justice Gunny, I would have to disagree with what it seemed that you implied?

Killing the enemy is justice in my book.
 
Bullshit argument. Who exactly are you going to charge after they blow themselves and a countless number of bystanders to dust?

Your logic, or lack thereof, sucks.

I'm talking about captured terrorists, sarge. Not suicide bombers. Come on, pull your head out and read the post correctly before you refute.

We've supposedly captured "most" of the top brass, but we haven't charged them with anything. We've no doubt water-boarded the shit out of some in secret CIA prisons, as Cheney and Bush have admitted, but I haven't seen anyone charged with anything and tried. As long as you feel "safe" from those dirty arabs because they're locked away somewhere secret, it's ok.

We capture, charge, try, and sentence Americans who commit acts of terrorism (OK City, Atlanta bomber, Uni-bomber, DC sniper, to name just a few), but we just don't seem to be doing that with those damn "ragheads".

Maybe if they were Christians? Or at least just NOT MUSLIM?
 
The Masterminds behind the actions of the 19 hijackers, those that gave them the direction and the orders and the plot to accomplish 9/11?

That's who we went to war against INITIALLY, no?

Dead or Alive, he can run but he can't hide, Bin Laden and his closest associates and those that funded this from Saudi Arabia, and The United Arab Emirates, from what I have read over the last few years.

No one has been brought to Justice Gunny, I would have to disagree with what it seemed that you implied?

You are obviously mistaken about Saudi Arabia

President Bush:
I told the Crown Prince how much I appreciate his vision for a peaceful and integrated Middle East, and how I appreciated his leadership in helping rally the Arab world toward that vision. I also appreciated the Crown Prince's assurance that Saudi Arabia condemns terror
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020425-4.html
 
The Masterminds behind the actions of the 19 hijackers, those that gave them the direction and the orders and the plot to accomplish 9/11?

That's who we went to war against INITIALLY, no?

Dead or Alive, he can run but he can't hide, Bin Laden and his closest associates and those that funded this from Saudi Arabia, and The United Arab Emirates, from what I have read over the last few years.

No one has been brought to Justice Gunny, I would have to disagree with what it seemed that you implied?

What is this? Tit for tat? Let's bring only those responsible for that specific act to justice and ignore the tens of thousands just like them until they can bring down something as big as the WTC towers.

You can disagree, but the fact remains that as long as a terrorist organization dedicated to attacking the US exists, it IS a danger and should be addressed.

I will alos point out that the actual perpetrators of the crimes are fertilizer now and have been for 6 years. Kind of hard to bring them to "justice."

Why is it there are those of you that mistakenly believe that "it'll all be over" when and if we catch bin Laden? There are 3 more just like him waiting to take his place.
 
Why is it there are those of you that mistakenly believe that "it'll all be over" when and if we catch bin Laden? There are 3 more just like him waiting to take his place.

That's it? Only 3?

Are we creating and arming THEM TOO, like we did with Bin Laden in the late 70's, early 80's?

You do realize that Al-qaeda is literally a Brzezinski creation, right?
 
We didn't invade North Africa in WWII because the Libyans, Morrocans or Algerians. You really need to educate yourself about who it is we are up against. If you want to eradicate a den of vipers, your going to get bit once in awhile.


We invaded North Africa, because that's where the german army was.

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq prior to Bush's War. In fact, Saddam considered al qaeda a threat to his own regime.
 
What is this? Tit for tat? Let's bring only those responsible for that specific act to justice and ignore the tens of thousands just like them until they can bring down something as big as the WTC towers.

You can disagree, but the fact remains that as long as a terrorist organization dedicated to attacking the US exists, it IS a danger and should be addressed.

I will alos point out that the actual perpetrators of the crimes are fertilizer now and have been for 6 years. Kind of hard to bring them to "justice."

Why is it there are those of you that mistakenly believe that "it'll all be over" when and if we catch bin Laden? There are 3 more just like him waiting to take his place.

You got it ! That's exactly how naive opponents to the WOT are. Ignorance runs rampant all through this thread. WOT opponents refuse to believe al quaedas' intentions and organization PRIOR to 9/11. They refuse to believe al quaeda exists in countries other than Afghanistan. They think that the Saudi GOVT is behind the whole movement. They haven't even READ bin Ladens' fatwah that EXPLICITY explains thier intentions and motivations. etc etc etc.

(or they just hate Bush and find the war a good way to take him down)
 
We invaded North Africa, because that's where the german army was.

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq prior to Bush's War. In fact, Saddam considered al qaeda a threat to his own regime.

Well they are there now. We hear all this bullshit about "leaving" Afghanistan without finishing the job and yet in Iraq you want to do that EXACT thing. Your desperate rationalizations are pitiful.
 
bush said alqaeda in iraq 95 times in the 25 minute speech....

that's called brainwashing material....

even if alqaeda were not in Iraq, and never were in Iraq....repeating such 95 times in 25 minutes would make a certain percentage of the population to believe such...

before i retired, (young):D, I was a Marketing manager for a major international footwear company, and heavily involved in buying ROP, radio, and tv advertising throughout my footwear career....over 20 years of it, and exposure...(circulation, audience reach), and how many times you ran that ad, is what one PAYS for with big bucks!

the more people and the more times your ad ran within the contracted period with the station, the more you paid, and the better the results you got in people believing or thinking they had to buy your product, because it was more comfortable than the next guys, or more cool than the next guys, or yadeedah reason...bottom line increased sales from running ads.

Same thing with the president repeating alqaeda 95 times in 25 minutes....never in my career have i ever been able to afford such a ''hit'' on an ad.....repeating it to the whole nation, 95 times in 25 minutes!!!!!!!!

Plus additional free hits on all the news stations showing clips of his speach!

I am not denying his claims or agreeing with them, i just wanted to point out how repeating something like he did is a TOOL used OFTEN by this administration!
 

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