Building the wall is the most critical political issue in America, we must do it

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You realize that at this rate if we started building the wall today about 2% of it would be finished by 2020.

Based on what?

I don't know. The fact that we don't have the funding to lay a single brick yet? :dunno:

Funding is tiny as a percent of the Federal budget, that's not an issue other than the political issue of Democrats trying to stop it. Which is what my OP is about, right?

The GOP doesn't want the wall. Mexico doesn't want the wall. Nobody is paying for the wall.

True, true and we'll see
 
I voted for Trump because our nations leaders were screwing up...stupid wars we either couldn't or wouldn't win or the ridiculous idea to rebuild nations that we destroyed even though they don't want us there...

Out of control spending...Obama doubled the nations debt. and couldn't get the nation back on track economically...

The malls were empty...shut down stores...lawless communities were growing not getting smaller with kids being killed over a street corner...and no one seemed to care...new normal they called it...

Then they made the ultimate sin and messed with what was mine...my health insurance...I had been responsible and paid for an insurance plan that worked for me and my employees...it was affordable and it was a PPO which meant my employees didn't have to jump through hoops to see a specialist...

They took that away from me and gave me an unaffordable mess in return...
I figured that DC was broken at that point and needed an outsider...a businessman that could return America to a prosperous nation again and here came Trump down the stairs at his hotel...at first I laughed and cringed a little but then I realized he was saying the same things I had said and thought...

Obama blew it...he could have been great but he set his sights on eliminating the GOP...he wanted revenge for himself and his community...Big mistake...
Trump will call out congress even members of his own party...That's long overdue...

We are and have been played like fools from our nations leaders...they say one thing but do what they want...they prosper in ways that would toss us in prison if we tried it and they get away with it because the media and they are best of friends...

If the libs on this board could for one day put their blind hatred for Trump aside they would realize that an outsider like Trump that will battle the do nothing house and especially the broken Senate is a good thing...

If the libs on this board would stop swallowing the MSM line that comes straight from the DNC and think about what really is important to themselves they would be voting for Trump in 2020 too...
 
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In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.
Building a ‘wall’ is among the most ignorant, idiotic manifestation of rightwing bigotry and hate, in addition to being a colossal waste of time and money.
My disdain and dissatisfaction with Trump has only to do with his character, and that's not going to convincingly change for the better between now and 2020. Build the wall, or don't. Effect universal peace on Earth and goodwill amongst all mankind. It matters not. Donald Trump yet will remain a frightfully dissolute mental midget with the natural grace of an intoxicated beluga whale.

Fair enough. The wall was my argument. I gave you several poll choices that disagree with me
 
In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.

Wall is a silly waste of money . There are more efficient ways to fight illegal immigration.

By the way, there are no illegals voting . The whole illegal issue is not that big of a deal, it’s a distraction. Easy scapegoats .
 
In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.
Building a ‘wall’ is among the most ignorant, idiotic manifestation of rightwing bigotry and hate, in addition to being a colossal waste of time and money.
My disdain and dissatisfaction with Trump has only to do with his character, and that's not going to convincingly change for the better between now and 2020. Build the wall, or don't. Effect universal peace on Earth and goodwill amongst all mankind. It matters not. Donald Trump yet will remain a frightfully dissolute mental midget with the natural grace of an intoxicated beluga whale.
Trump is a frightfully dissolute mental midget with the natural grace of an intoxicated beluga whale who is also wrong on the issues – all the more reason to not vote for him.
 
Wall is a silly waste of money . There are more efficient ways to fight illegal immigration.
But the libs fight them as well...they don't want cheap labor and future dependent people to stop coming here...it's time to go to the summer lawn....who's gonna plant it? disgraceful...
 
In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.

Wall is a silly waste of money . There are more efficient ways to fight illegal immigration.

By the way, there are no illegals voting . The whole illegal issue is not that big of a deal, it’s a distraction. Easy scapegoats .

Yeah, more efficiently than physically blocking them.

What you mean is exactly what my post said. You want illegal immigration and you know the wall will work, you must stop it at any cost
 
In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.
Building a ‘wall’ is among the most ignorant, idiotic manifestation of rightwing bigotry and hate, in addition to being a colossal waste of time and money.
My disdain and dissatisfaction with Trump has only to do with his character, and that's not going to convincingly change for the better between now and 2020. Build the wall, or don't. Effect universal peace on Earth and goodwill amongst all mankind. It matters not. Donald Trump yet will remain a frightfully dissolute mental midget with the natural grace of an intoxicated beluga whale.
Trump is a frightfully dissolute mental midget with the natural grace of an intoxicated beluga whale who is also wrong on the issues – all the more reason to not vote for him.

Typical leftist argument. No logic, just attack. And anyone who disagrees with you is not just wrong, they are evil.

It's the only bullet in your gun because your stupid ideas are illogical and don't work
 
Bottom line Democrats cant win national elections with their current base thus they need the large influx of illegals to turn southern border states blue. Until the wall is built we need a large increase of ICE and fines for employers hiring them.....also cutting out the entitlements to illegals will work maybe better than a wall....free stuff quits they head home.
 
In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.
.The wall is thee most contentious issue to be used against the republicans in the 2020 election (if it is attempted to be built), and if huge dollars are spent, and then it fails.

Building specific barriers suitable for the landscape along the border in order to conform to the needs within the areas that are at risk is Ok, and repairing or upgrading other barriers already in place is also OK. Mix that with better technology, drones, new roads, sensors, troops where needed, unchained border patrol, e-verify (enforced big time), sanctuary cities stopped, and the deportation starts yielding great results, and then look for the instant results in everything associated with the issue.

If can do all this in concert, the elections in 2020 will be Trump, Trump, Trump.

Right now the wall is like a huge target that has been placed on the backs of the GOP.

The Demon-crats are locked and loaded for the failure or they will do their level best to cause the failure.
 
In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.

Wall is a silly waste of money . There are more efficient ways to fight illegal immigration.

By the way, there are no illegals voting . The whole illegal issue is not that big of a deal, it’s a distraction. Easy scapegoats .

Yeah, more efficiently than physically blocking them.

What you mean is exactly what my post said. You want illegal immigration and you know the wall will work, you must stop it at any cost

40% of illegals come in legally . Wall does zero for that .

Ever notice no one else would run on this dumb wall idea? Why? Cause it’s stupid . We are talking 1200 miles . Mostly thru wasteland .
 
Bottom line Democrats cant win national elections with their current base thus they need the large influx of illegals to turn southern border states blue. Until the wall is built we need a large increase of ICE and fines for employers hiring them.....also cutting out the entitlements to illegals will work maybe better than a wall....free stuff quits they head home.

Yep. And Democrats are turning blue collar whites back into Republicans because of their anti-jobs policies
 
In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.
.The wall is thee most contentious issue to be used against the republicans in the 2020 election (if it is attempted to be built), and if huge dollars are spent, and then it fails.

Building specific barriers suitable for the landscape along the border in order to conform to the needs within the areas that are at risk is Ok, and repairing or upgrading other barriers already in place is also OK. Mix that with better technology, drones, new roads, sensors, troops where needed, unchained border patrol, e-verify (enforced big time), sanctuary cities stopped, and the deportation starts yielding great results, and then look for the instant results in everything associated with the issue.

If can do all this in concert, the elections in 2020 will be Trump, Trump, Trump.

Right now the wall is like a huge target that has been placed on the backs of the GOP.

The Demon-crats are locked and loaded for the failure or they will do their level best to cause the failure.

Americans overwhelmingly want the southern border secured. I just see no evidence of this
 
In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.

Wall is a silly waste of money . There are more efficient ways to fight illegal immigration.

By the way, there are no illegals voting . The whole illegal issue is not that big of a deal, it’s a distraction. Easy scapegoats .

Yeah, more efficiently than physically blocking them.

What you mean is exactly what my post said. You want illegal immigration and you know the wall will work, you must stop it at any cost

40% of illegals come in legally . Wall does zero for that .

Ever notice no one else would run on this dumb wall idea? Why? Cause it’s stupid . We are talking 1200 miles . Mostly thru wasteland .

Again your desperation to stop the wall because you know it will work, not because you think it won't. And yes, we need to deal with the other 40% too. We need to deal with both
 

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