Brits Knew Dossier Was Bogus in 2017 Prior to Trump Inauguration; Have Sent US AG / US IG Evidence

[easyt65]

Moreover, there must have been sufficient evidence for the FISA courts to renew the wiretaps every 90 days.

The perception that there was 'sufficient evidence' was provided to the FISA Court in the form of Dossier information presented to them as 'Legitimate Intelligence' with the omission that the source of the information was a Trump-hating spy working with the Russians to pass along Russian-authored data and for the FBI and that the information was Political Opposition Research paid for by Trump's political opponent....SIGNED BY THE DEPUTY US AG who - by signing the application - was swearing the information was verified, substantiated, truthful, and factual - as per the top of the form which stated the information being submitted must be.

The initial warrant was acquired, according to FBI Deputy Director McCabe under oath, because of the Dossier's contents / use. Released evidence shows the Dossier was used initially to acquire spying approval and during 2 renewal applications.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"In January 2017 then-U.K. national security adviser Sir Mark Lyall Grant hand-delivered a memo to soon-to-be national security adviser Michael Flynn's team that asserted the U.K. government had doubts about the credibility of British ex-spy Christopher Steele. Recent reports suggest Steele had briefed British intelligence officials on his dossier after the 2016 presidential election, and the heads of MI5 and MI6 were made aware of the contents of the dossier by late November.

“A whistleblower recently revealed the existence of a communique from our allies in Great Britain during the early days of the Russia collusion investigation,” Meadows said.

“Based on my conversations with that individual, and the credible timelines that are supported by other events, I made a referral to Attorney General William Barr and Inspector General Michael Horowitz for further investigation,” the North Carolina Republican added. “There now is overwhelming evidence to suggest that on multiple occasions the FBI was warned that Christopher Steele and the dossier had severe credibility issues.”

"Donald Trump’s campaign, it sat buried for more than 2 1/2 years in the files of a high-ranking State Department official."



Existing evidence in the form of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec’s written accountof her Oct. 11, 2016, meeting with FBI informant Christopher Steele exposed that:

1. Steele ADMITTED Hillary Clinton paid for the Dossier, that the Dossier was a POLITICAL document that he was adamant about releasing BEFORE the 2016 election to have an impact on the election

2. Steele LIED in his interview with Kavalec (which she IMMEDIATELY knew and annotated in her notes), proving Steele was totally UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY...

3. Kavalec immediately notified the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.


DOJ's Bruce Ohr testified under oath that HE told the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI Steele was UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY and that the Dossier was UNVERIFIED and UNRELIABLE PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.



Now evidence shows the Brits gave the US / Obama administration's State Dept a report warning that Steele and the dossier had 'serious credibility' issues...

...and OBAMA'S STATE DEPARTMENT SAT ON IT FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.
** Remember, a newly-released e-mail from Obama National Security advisor Susan Rice sites Obama was briefed by then-FBI Director Comey in August 2016 about the 'Russia Collusion Investigation', demanded to be kept updated on every detail, that the Obama administration personnel who had access to this information and who attended meetings included Obama, Biden, Rice, Yates, Rosenstein, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, and SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY.

It should be noted that Ohr is also on record under oath stating that ROBERT MUELLER worked with him and Steele ON THE DOSSIER BEFORE the official investigation of Trump began and BEFORE Mueller was named Special Counsel....which, common sense dictates, if Ohr knew both Steele and the Dossier were unreliable / unverified then MUELLER KNEW as well....BEFORE he began his investigation.

Mueller also HAD to know Steele had been fired by the FBI for lying to the FBI, which is not only a crime but met the requirement for considering Steele unreliable and thus he and the Dossier could NOT be cited in the FISA Court warrant requests, which they were 3 times (1 initial and 2 renewals)!


As time goes on, not only does more and more evidence keep coming out exposing Obama and his top inner circle and agency directors were behind the exposed failed coup attempt but that Mueller was also working with the FBI / Ohr / Steele on the Dossier BEFORE the illegal FISA Court Warrant Requests were made and he knew everything....before he became Special Counsel!


Embarrassing: It Seems Even The British Knew The Trump Dossier Was Trash…in 2017

.

Raw intelligence is supposed to be looked into.

Steele had RAW intelligence.

"Hey guys, I got some hints and suspicions about these things because these people talked about this. Maybe you should look into it."

Not everything is expected to be true exactly the way it was presented.

Its RAW.

Steele had NO INTELLIGENCE!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"In January 2017 then-U.K. national security adviser Sir Mark Lyall Grant hand-delivered a memo to soon-to-be national security adviser Michael Flynn's team that asserted the U.K. government had doubts about the credibility of British ex-spy Christopher Steele. Recent reports suggest Steele had briefed British intelligence officials on his dossier after the 2016 presidential election, and the heads of MI5 and MI6 were made aware of the contents of the dossier by late November.

“A whistleblower recently revealed the existence of a communique from our allies in Great Britain during the early days of the Russia collusion investigation,” Meadows said.

“Based on my conversations with that individual, and the credible timelines that are supported by other events, I made a referral to Attorney General William Barr and Inspector General Michael Horowitz for further investigation,” the North Carolina Republican added. “There now is overwhelming evidence to suggest that on multiple occasions the FBI was warned that Christopher Steele and the dossier had severe credibility issues.”

"Donald Trump’s campaign, it sat buried for more than 2 1/2 years in the files of a high-ranking State Department official."



Existing evidence in the form of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec’s written accountof her Oct. 11, 2016, meeting with FBI informant Christopher Steele exposed that:

1. Steele ADMITTED Hillary Clinton paid for the Dossier, that the Dossier was a POLITICAL document that he was adamant about releasing BEFORE the 2016 election to have an impact on the election

2. Steele LIED in his interview with Kavalec (which she IMMEDIATELY knew and annotated in her notes), proving Steele was totally UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY...

3. Kavalec immediately notified the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.


DOJ's Bruce Ohr testified under oath that HE told the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI Steele was UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY and that the Dossier was UNVERIFIED and UNRELIABLE PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.



Now evidence shows the Brits gave the US / Obama administration's State Dept a report warning that Steele and the dossier had 'serious credibility' issues...

...and OBAMA'S STATE DEPARTMENT SAT ON IT FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.
** Remember, a newly-released e-mail from Obama National Security advisor Susan Rice sites Obama was briefed by then-FBI Director Comey in August 2016 about the 'Russia Collusion Investigation', demanded to be kept updated on every detail, that the Obama administration personnel who had access to this information and who attended meetings included Obama, Biden, Rice, Yates, Rosenstein, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, and SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY.

It should be noted that Ohr is also on record under oath stating that ROBERT MUELLER worked with him and Steele ON THE DOSSIER BEFORE the official investigation of Trump began and BEFORE Mueller was named Special Counsel....which, common sense dictates, if Ohr knew both Steele and the Dossier were unreliable / unverified then MUELLER KNEW as well....BEFORE he began his investigation.

Mueller also HAD to know Steele had been fired by the FBI for lying to the FBI, which is not only a crime but met the requirement for considering Steele unreliable and thus he and the Dossier could NOT be cited in the FISA Court warrant requests, which they were 3 times (1 initial and 2 renewals)!


As time goes on, not only does more and more evidence keep coming out exposing Obama and his top inner circle and agency directors were behind the exposed failed coup attempt but that Mueller was also working with the FBI / Ohr / Steele on the Dossier BEFORE the illegal FISA Court Warrant Requests were made and he knew everything....before he became Special Counsel!


Embarrassing: It Seems Even The British Knew The Trump Dossier Was Trash…in 2017

.

Raw intelligence is supposed to be looked into.

Steele had RAW intelligence.

"Hey guys, I got some hints and suspicions about these things because these people talked about this. Maybe you should look into it."

Not everything is expected to be true exactly the way it was presented.

Its RAW.

Here are some interesting reads on the subject:

The Steele Dossier: A Retrospective
Carter Page FISA Documents Are Released by Justice Department
Revisiting Carter Page - Just Security
Carter Page Touted Kremlin Contacts in 2013 Letter
Why Carter Page Was Worth Watching

The FBI's interest in Carter Page seems to go back to a time long before trump began his campaign, long before the Steele dossier ever surfaced, and also long before Steele might have worked for the Clinton campaign. Moreover, there must have been sufficient evidence for the FISA courts to renew the wiretaps every 90 days.

Here's better reading for the Failed Coup Plotters

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

 

[jc456]

"In January 2017 then-U.K. national security adviser Sir Mark Lyall Grant hand-delivered a memo to soon-to-be national security adviser Michael Flynn's team that asserted the U.K. government had doubts about the credibility of British ex-spy Christopher Steele. Recent reports suggest Steele had briefed British intelligence officials on his dossier after the 2016 presidential election, and the heads of MI5 and MI6 were made aware of the contents of the dossier by late November.

“A whistleblower recently revealed the existence of a communique from our allies in Great Britain during the early days of the Russia collusion investigation,” Meadows said.

“Based on my conversations with that individual, and the credible timelines that are supported by other events, I made a referral to Attorney General William Barr and Inspector General Michael Horowitz for further investigation,” the North Carolina Republican added. “There now is overwhelming evidence to suggest that on multiple occasions the FBI was warned that Christopher Steele and the dossier had severe credibility issues.”

"Donald Trump’s campaign, it sat buried for more than 2 1/2 years in the files of a high-ranking State Department official."



Existing evidence in the form of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec’s written accountof her Oct. 11, 2016, meeting with FBI informant Christopher Steele exposed that:

1. Steele ADMITTED Hillary Clinton paid for the Dossier, that the Dossier was a POLITICAL document that he was adamant about releasing BEFORE the 2016 election to have an impact on the election

2. Steele LIED in his interview with Kavalec (which she IMMEDIATELY knew and annotated in her notes), proving Steele was totally UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY...

3. Kavalec immediately notified the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.


DOJ's Bruce Ohr testified under oath that HE told the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI Steele was UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY and that the Dossier was UNVERIFIED and UNRELIABLE PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.



Now evidence shows the Brits gave the US / Obama administration's State Dept a report warning that Steele and the dossier had 'serious credibility' issues...

...and OBAMA'S STATE DEPARTMENT SAT ON IT FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.
** Remember, a newly-released e-mail from Obama National Security advisor Susan Rice sites Obama was briefed by then-FBI Director Comey in August 2016 about the 'Russia Collusion Investigation', demanded to be kept updated on every detail, that the Obama administration personnel who had access to this information and who attended meetings included Obama, Biden, Rice, Yates, Rosenstein, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, and SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY.

It should be noted that Ohr is also on record under oath stating that ROBERT MUELLER worked with him and Steele ON THE DOSSIER BEFORE the official investigation of Trump began and BEFORE Mueller was named Special Counsel....which, common sense dictates, if Ohr knew both Steele and the Dossier were unreliable / unverified then MUELLER KNEW as well....BEFORE he began his investigation.

Mueller also HAD to know Steele had been fired by the FBI for lying to the FBI, which is not only a crime but met the requirement for considering Steele unreliable and thus he and the Dossier could NOT be cited in the FISA Court warrant requests, which they were 3 times (1 initial and 2 renewals)!


As time goes on, not only does more and more evidence keep coming out exposing Obama and his top inner circle and agency directors were behind the exposed failed coup attempt but that Mueller was also working with the FBI / Ohr / Steele on the Dossier BEFORE the illegal FISA Court Warrant Requests were made and he knew everything....before he became Special Counsel!


Embarrassing: It Seems Even The British Knew The Trump Dossier Was Trash…in 2017

.

Raw intelligence is supposed to be looked into.

Steele had RAW intelligence.

"Hey guys, I got some hints and suspicions about these things because these people talked about this. Maybe you should look into it."

Not everything is expected to be true exactly the way it was presented.

Its RAW.

Here are some interesting reads on the subject:

The Steele Dossier: A Retrospective
Carter Page FISA Documents Are Released by Justice Department
Revisiting Carter Page - Just Security
Carter Page Touted Kremlin Contacts in 2013 Letter
Why Carter Page Was Worth Watching

The FBI's interest in Carter Page seems to go back to a time long before trump began his campaign, long before the Steele dossier ever surfaced, and also long before Steele might have worked for the Clinton campaign. Moreover, there must have been sufficient evidence for the FISA courts to renew the wiretaps every 90 days.

Here's better reading for the Failed Coup Plotters

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

CrusaderFrank we have foreigners in our house now. they have infiltrated, and the left are agreeing with them. how anti american can that be that our own government has gone with foreign countries than their own people.

 

[jc456]

it's funny, watch a NHL Hockey Playoff Series and the losers and winners shake hands. In politics they turn to anti americans and side with foreign countries. HUH?

 

[badger2]

#65: 'Dozens of Russia's best players had left their impoverished country to sign multimillion-dollar contracts with NHL teams. Apart from the individual contracts, the teams paid the Russian Hockey Federation a total of nearly $10 million for the right to sign up the players.'
(Klebnikov, Godfather of the Kremlin)

 

[edthecynic]

Brits Knew Dossier Was Bogus in 2017 Prior to Trump Inauguration; Have Sent US AG / US IG Evidence

FAKE NEWS!

Prove it.

I need no more proof than Tramp ever gives, which as you well know, is nothing!

so - you don't need proof.

got it.

Exactly, if Tramp doesn't need proof then I don't!
I can be presidential too!

 

[edthecynic]

long before Steele might have worked for the Clinton campaign

Steele NEVER worked for the Clinton campaign! He worked for Fusion GPS who never told him their client was Clinton.

 

[edthecynic]

Russian-authored data

That is a Russian authored lie, as well you know.

 

[edthecynic]

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason

WOW! If that doesn't describe Tramp to a tee, then there is no such thing as treason.

 

[easyt65]

Exactly, if Tramp doesn't need proof then I don't! I can be presidential too!

Despite the un-American Bizzaro-World claim made by Democrats during their disgraceful attempted political assassination of Judge Kavanaugh, Americans ARE innocent under the law UNTIL PROVEN guilty, and the burden of proof of guilt is on the ACCUSER, not the accused.

It was the Democrats who initiated the claim that Trump and his team illegally engaged in 'collusion' (which is not even a crime) with the Russians (while Hillary purchased Russian-authored Counter-Intelligence propaganda from a Trump-hating foreign spy who worked with the Russians and for the FBI).

The burden of proof was on the Democrats to prove.
-- According to fired former FBI Agent page's testimony, the FBI conducted its own (illegal) internal investigation into this 'manufactured' claim (based on the Dossier) and could find NO EVIDENCE such a crime existed, NO EVIDENCE of a crime that warranted an official investigation or a Special Counsel appointment, and found ZERO evidence of such a crime involving Trump or anyone on his team.

Because of Comey's admitted leaking of information to his professor friend so an official investigation would be opened and due to the illegal use of the Dossier already identified as unreliable, the '4 Horsemen' were able to successfully get an official investigation of the unsubstantiated / already debunked claim of a crime having been committed.

The burden of proof then fell to co-conspirator / 'Insurance Policy' Mueller. In his final report Mueller made it clear that neither Trump or anyone on his team / associated with him engaged in any illegal collusion with the Russians. Not one single person investigated by Mueller and his team were indicted or convicted of 'Illegal Collusion' with the Russians....because, as FBI agent Page had testified, THE FBI HAD ALREADY PROVEN IT HAD NEVER HAPPENED!

Evidence IS required to prove guilt. The Democrats, FBI, Mueller, and / or snowflakes have never been able to produce any....because it never happened.

 

[Lysistrata]

"In January 2017 then-U.K. national security adviser Sir Mark Lyall Grant hand-delivered a memo to soon-to-be national security adviser Michael Flynn's team that asserted the U.K. government had doubts about the credibility of British ex-spy Christopher Steele. Recent reports suggest Steele had briefed British intelligence officials on his dossier after the 2016 presidential election, and the heads of MI5 and MI6 were made aware of the contents of the dossier by late November.

“A whistleblower recently revealed the existence of a communique from our allies in Great Britain during the early days of the Russia collusion investigation,” Meadows said.

“Based on my conversations with that individual, and the credible timelines that are supported by other events, I made a referral to Attorney General William Barr and Inspector General Michael Horowitz for further investigation,” the North Carolina Republican added. “There now is overwhelming evidence to suggest that on multiple occasions the FBI was warned that Christopher Steele and the dossier had severe credibility issues.”

"Donald Trump’s campaign, it sat buried for more than 2 1/2 years in the files of a high-ranking State Department official."



Existing evidence in the form of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec’s written accountof her Oct. 11, 2016, meeting with FBI informant Christopher Steele exposed that:

1. Steele ADMITTED Hillary Clinton paid for the Dossier, that the Dossier was a POLITICAL document that he was adamant about releasing BEFORE the 2016 election to have an impact on the election

2. Steele LIED in his interview with Kavalec (which she IMMEDIATELY knew and annotated in her notes), proving Steele was totally UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY...

3. Kavalec immediately notified the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.


DOJ's Bruce Ohr testified under oath that HE told the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI Steele was UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY and that the Dossier was UNVERIFIED and UNRELIABLE PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.



Now evidence shows the Brits gave the US / Obama administration's State Dept a report warning that Steele and the dossier had 'serious credibility' issues...

...and OBAMA'S STATE DEPARTMENT SAT ON IT FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.
** Remember, a newly-released e-mail from Obama National Security advisor Susan Rice sites Obama was briefed by then-FBI Director Comey in August 2016 about the 'Russia Collusion Investigation', demanded to be kept updated on every detail, that the Obama administration personnel who had access to this information and who attended meetings included Obama, Biden, Rice, Yates, Rosenstein, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, and SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY.

It should be noted that Ohr is also on record under oath stating that ROBERT MUELLER worked with him and Steele ON THE DOSSIER BEFORE the official investigation of Trump began and BEFORE Mueller was named Special Counsel....which, common sense dictates, if Ohr knew both Steele and the Dossier were unreliable / unverified then MUELLER KNEW as well....BEFORE he began his investigation.

Mueller also HAD to know Steele had been fired by the FBI for lying to the FBI, which is not only a crime but met the requirement for considering Steele unreliable and thus he and the Dossier could NOT be cited in the FISA Court warrant requests, which they were 3 times (1 initial and 2 renewals)!


As time goes on, not only does more and more evidence keep coming out exposing Obama and his top inner circle and agency directors were behind the exposed failed coup attempt but that Mueller was also working with the FBI / Ohr / Steele on the Dossier BEFORE the illegal FISA Court Warrant Requests were made and he knew everything....before he became Special Counsel!


Embarrassing: It Seems Even The British Knew The Trump Dossier Was Trash…in 2017

.

Raw intelligence is supposed to be looked into.

Steele had RAW intelligence.

"Hey guys, I got some hints and suspicions about these things because these people talked about this. Maybe you should look into it."

Not everything is expected to be true exactly the way it was presented.

Its RAW.

Here are some interesting reads on the subject:

The Steele Dossier: A Retrospective
Carter Page FISA Documents Are Released by Justice Department
Revisiting Carter Page - Just Security
Carter Page Touted Kremlin Contacts in 2013 Letter
Why Carter Page Was Worth Watching

The FBI's interest in Carter Page seems to go back to a time long before trump began his campaign, long before the Steele dossier ever surfaced, and also long before Steele might have worked for the Clinton campaign. Moreover, there must have been sufficient evidence for the FISA courts to renew the wiretaps every 90 days.

Here's better reading for the Failed Coup Plotters

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

Who are the "failed coup plotters"? There is no proof that anyone has levied war against the United States or "adhere[d] to their enemies or given them "aid and comfort." Even if trump were to be impeached, he would still be replaced by that ass from Indiana (who still has an issue hanging over him regarding his e-mails while governor). There is no "coup" involved.

Carter Page has been a private citizen at all times. The first warrant was issued before the 2016 election when trump was not an office-holder. Both he and Clinton were private citizens. I can't find any evidence that a FISA warrant was ever issued for trump, anyway.

Interesting article about whether there was a FISA warrant on Page in 2013-14, which remains unclear: Reports: Carter Page Was Subject to FISA Warrant in 2013/2014 - Just Security

The OP states that Mueller "had to know" that Steele had been fired by the FBI. Steele is British. When was he ever employed by the FBI?

The OP states that "more and more evidence keep coming out exposing Obama and his top inner circle and agency directors were behind the exposed failed coup," but how can an attempted "coup" have occurred when Obama was president at the time? A "coup" against himself? Also, nobody knew who would win the 2016 election at that time.

 

[jc456]

"In January 2017 then-U.K. national security adviser Sir Mark Lyall Grant hand-delivered a memo to soon-to-be national security adviser Michael Flynn's team that asserted the U.K. government had doubts about the credibility of British ex-spy Christopher Steele. Recent reports suggest Steele had briefed British intelligence officials on his dossier after the 2016 presidential election, and the heads of MI5 and MI6 were made aware of the contents of the dossier by late November.

“A whistleblower recently revealed the existence of a communique from our allies in Great Britain during the early days of the Russia collusion investigation,” Meadows said.

“Based on my conversations with that individual, and the credible timelines that are supported by other events, I made a referral to Attorney General William Barr and Inspector General Michael Horowitz for further investigation,” the North Carolina Republican added. “There now is overwhelming evidence to suggest that on multiple occasions the FBI was warned that Christopher Steele and the dossier had severe credibility issues.”

"Donald Trump’s campaign, it sat buried for more than 2 1/2 years in the files of a high-ranking State Department official."



Existing evidence in the form of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec’s written accountof her Oct. 11, 2016, meeting with FBI informant Christopher Steele exposed that:

1. Steele ADMITTED Hillary Clinton paid for the Dossier, that the Dossier was a POLITICAL document that he was adamant about releasing BEFORE the 2016 election to have an impact on the election

2. Steele LIED in his interview with Kavalec (which she IMMEDIATELY knew and annotated in her notes), proving Steele was totally UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY...

3. Kavalec immediately notified the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.


DOJ's Bruce Ohr testified under oath that HE told the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI Steele was UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY and that the Dossier was UNVERIFIED and UNRELIABLE PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.



Now evidence shows the Brits gave the US / Obama administration's State Dept a report warning that Steele and the dossier had 'serious credibility' issues...

...and OBAMA'S STATE DEPARTMENT SAT ON IT FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.
** Remember, a newly-released e-mail from Obama National Security advisor Susan Rice sites Obama was briefed by then-FBI Director Comey in August 2016 about the 'Russia Collusion Investigation', demanded to be kept updated on every detail, that the Obama administration personnel who had access to this information and who attended meetings included Obama, Biden, Rice, Yates, Rosenstein, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, and SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY.

It should be noted that Ohr is also on record under oath stating that ROBERT MUELLER worked with him and Steele ON THE DOSSIER BEFORE the official investigation of Trump began and BEFORE Mueller was named Special Counsel....which, common sense dictates, if Ohr knew both Steele and the Dossier were unreliable / unverified then MUELLER KNEW as well....BEFORE he began his investigation.

Mueller also HAD to know Steele had been fired by the FBI for lying to the FBI, which is not only a crime but met the requirement for considering Steele unreliable and thus he and the Dossier could NOT be cited in the FISA Court warrant requests, which they were 3 times (1 initial and 2 renewals)!


As time goes on, not only does more and more evidence keep coming out exposing Obama and his top inner circle and agency directors were behind the exposed failed coup attempt but that Mueller was also working with the FBI / Ohr / Steele on the Dossier BEFORE the illegal FISA Court Warrant Requests were made and he knew everything....before he became Special Counsel!


Embarrassing: It Seems Even The British Knew The Trump Dossier Was Trash…in 2017

.

Raw intelligence is supposed to be looked into.

Steele had RAW intelligence.

"Hey guys, I got some hints and suspicions about these things because these people talked about this. Maybe you should look into it."

Not everything is expected to be true exactly the way it was presented.

Its RAW.

Here are some interesting reads on the subject:

The Steele Dossier: A Retrospective
Carter Page FISA Documents Are Released by Justice Department
Revisiting Carter Page - Just Security
Carter Page Touted Kremlin Contacts in 2013 Letter
Why Carter Page Was Worth Watching

The FBI's interest in Carter Page seems to go back to a time long before trump began his campaign, long before the Steele dossier ever surfaced, and also long before Steele might have worked for the Clinton campaign. Moreover, there must have been sufficient evidence for the FISA courts to renew the wiretaps every 90 days.

Here's better reading for the Failed Coup Plotters

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

Who are the "failed coup plotters"? There is no proof that anyone has levied war against the United States or "adhere[d] to their enemies or given them "aid and comfort." Even if trump were to be impeached, he would still be replaced by that ass from Indiana (who still has an issue hanging over him regarding his e-mails while governor). There is no "coup" involved.

Carter Page has been a private citizen at all times. The first warrant was issued before the 2016 election when trump was not an office-holder. Both he and Clinton were private citizens. I can't find any evidence that a FISA warrant was ever issued for trump, anyway.

Interesting article about whether there was a FISA warrant on Page in 2013-14, which remains unclear: Reports: Carter Page Was Subject to FISA Warrant in 2013/2014 - Just Security

The OP states that Mueller "had to know" that Steele had been fired by the FBI. Steele is British. When was he ever employed by the FBI?

The OP states that "more and more evidence keep coming out exposing Obama and his top inner circle and agency directors were behind the exposed failed coup," but how can an attempted "coup" have occurred when Obama was president at the time? A "coup" against himself? Also, nobody knew who would win the 2016 election at that time.

let's see how smart you really are, did trump ask russia to hack into Hitlery's server to get her emails?

 

[easyt65]

Russian-authored data

That is a Russian authored lie, as well you know.

"Dossier author Christopher Steele identified a former Russian spy chief and a top adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin as being involved in handling potentially compromising information about President Donald Trump, State Department notes show. In her notes, State Department official Kathleen Kavalec also referred to the two Russians — former Russian foreign intelligence chief Vyacheslav Trubnikov and Putin aide Vladislav Surkov — as “sources.”

Trubnikov also has links to Stefan Halper, an FBI informant who collected information from Trump campaign aides George Papadopoulos and Carter Page. “Presidential Advisor Vladislov Surkov and Vyasheslov Trubnikov (former head of Russian External Intelligence Service — SVR) are also involved,” wrote Kavalec, who served as deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian issues. Steele, who operated in Moscow through 2009 before leaving MI6, relied on a network of sources and sub-sources, some of whom are said to have worked in Russia.

A former CIA station chief in Moscow, Daniel Hoffman, said discerning how Steele obtained and used information from Trubnikov and Surkov is “tricky.” Hoffman said Trubnikov remains a “trusted guy in the Russian national security bureaucracy,” despite not having an official title in Russian government for over a decade.“They never stop,” Hoffman said of Russian intelligence operatives. “There’s no such thing as a former intelligence officer. The guy is going to be reporting back to the SVR or Putin.”


You were saying......?

I don't know, but I know what you will say / try to do next....claim the source crap because you can't debunk what is reported.






Steele Identified Russian Dossier Sources, Notes Reveal

(The Brits were quick to pick up on Steele and the truth behind the Dossier, but the snowflakes will claim none of their media - at least who publish anything discrediting Steele and the Dossier - can be believed)

 

[Dragonlady]

The purpose of FISA warrant is to further investigate the raw intelligence.

You keep repeating this in an attempt to defend / justify the ILLEGAL FISA Court Abuses perpetrated by the FBI and Deputy US AG Rosenstein, whose signature in on at least one of the warrant renewal requests. Repeating it does NOT make it any less of a false / narrative / lie.

Deputy FBI Director McCabe testified that without the DOSSIER and its contents they would not have sought or gotten the warrants.

Bruce Ohr testified that the source - Steele - was a liar, a Trump-hater, had a political agenda to get this information out before the election and to have it used against Trump. This completely discredited Steel and thus anything he provided, to include the Dossier.

Bruce Ohr testified that he warned Weinstein, Clapper, Brennan, and Comey BEFORE the FISA Court abuses were perpetrated that the Dossier was unverified, that some of the contents had already been debunked, that Steele had made no effort to substantiate the contents, and that all of this made the Dossier, at the very least, unusable and definitely proved it could not be considered reliable.

Deputy Sect of State Kevalec informed the 4 BEFORE the FISA Court abuses that during an interview with Steele he had LIED to her about a Russian Govt HQ being in Florida and that there was no such thing, that Steele had exposed the fact that he had a political agenda against Trump, and that he wanted the information released before the election. THIS information meets the criteria for Steele to be considered unreliable / untrustworthy.

In his testimony under oath before Congress Weinstein attempted to lecture Republicans on Warrants, FISA Court requests, and the critical importance that everything being submitted is true / verified. He stated that when submitting such a request to the FISA Court EVERYTHING SUBMITTED MUST BE SUBSTANTIATED, VERIFIED, 100% FACTUAL& TRUE. He stated that these words are printed at the top of each request form and that any one who did otherwise, who knowingly violated this, must face legal repercussions.

EVIDENCE NOW SHOWS:
- The Dossier was authored by Russians and is now believed to be Counter-Intelligence propaganda provided to Steele who sold it to Hillary and provided it to Obama's Agency Directors for use to against Trump / affect the election ...WHICH IT WAS

- Steele refused to substantiate / support anything in the Document

- Both Kevalec and Ohr told the 4 in advance Steele did not meet the criteria of an objective / reliable / trustworthy source of information (which the FBI already knew because they fired Steele for lying to them bout disclosing information to the media)

- Both Kevalec and Ohr told the 4 the Dossier contents were NOT verified, had NOT been substantiated, parts had been debunked already, and thus the information was UNRELIABLE and UNUSABLE...

So everything Weinstein lectured the Republicans / Congress about when he smugly testified under oath, HE VIOLATED - HE AND THE FBI - TO KNOWNGLY ENGAGE IN FIAS COURT ABUSES.

Weinstein signed his name to the FISA Court application, which falsely / illegally presented Dossier contents as 'LEGITIMATE INTELLIGENCE' that had been collected, KNOWING it was NOT.

The law specifically states that OMISSION of information / evidence during the submission of the warrant request to the FISA Court is also a crime...and they did that as well.

So your continued parroting of the claim the Dossier's contents was 'RAW INTELLIGENCE' is a proven / debunked lie.

Just ******* stop with the Putin/Trump party line.

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF FISA ABUSE? Not a shred. Not one shred of evidence against anyone in the FBI, the CIA, or the other American Security services. This is just a story Putin has made up to help Trump undermine American trust in the American system of justice, which Trump is trying to destroy.

The conclusions in the Mueller Reporty that the Russians contacted the Trump campaign over 100 times in an effort to coordinate with the Campaign are completely ignored by you and the rest of the Russian trolls here who are trying to sell this false narrative about what went on in the campaign. Those conclusions are backed up by the elecutions contained in the guilty pleas by the Trump associates who are currently serving time in jail.

The Mueller Report outlines the ways and means that the Russian government, including YOU easy, undermined the American election, and are currently selling a false narrative to the American pubic.

It worked in 2016 because no one saw you coming and Obama didn't want to make it appear he was attacking the Trump campaign which was being helped by the Russians. Now you're trying to make it look like this whole investigation should be investigated because Mueller didn't indict.

Trump should take his "insufficient evicence of a criminal conspiracy" and hunker down. Going after the investigators will blow up in his face BIGLY. The American public are quite frank fed up with this arrogant, profane and STUPID President.

 

[Dragonlady]

"In January 2017 then-U.K. national security adviser Sir Mark Lyall Grant hand-delivered a memo to soon-to-be national security adviser Michael Flynn's team that asserted the U.K. government had doubts about the credibility of British ex-spy Christopher Steele. Recent reports suggest Steele had briefed British intelligence officials on his dossier after the 2016 presidential election, and the heads of MI5 and MI6 were made aware of the contents of the dossier by late November.

“A whistleblower recently revealed the existence of a communique from our allies in Great Britain during the early days of the Russia collusion investigation,” Meadows said.

“Based on my conversations with that individual, and the credible timelines that are supported by other events, I made a referral to Attorney General William Barr and Inspector General Michael Horowitz for further investigation,” the North Carolina Republican added. “There now is overwhelming evidence to suggest that on multiple occasions the FBI was warned that Christopher Steele and the dossier had severe credibility issues.”

"Donald Trump’s campaign, it sat buried for more than 2 1/2 years in the files of a high-ranking State Department official."



Existing evidence in the form of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec’s written accountof her Oct. 11, 2016, meeting with FBI informant Christopher Steele exposed that:

1. Steele ADMITTED Hillary Clinton paid for the Dossier, that the Dossier was a POLITICAL document that he was adamant about releasing BEFORE the 2016 election to have an impact on the election

2. Steele LIED in his interview with Kavalec (which she IMMEDIATELY knew and annotated in her notes), proving Steele was totally UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY...

3. Kavalec immediately notified the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.


DOJ's Bruce Ohr testified under oath that HE told the Directors of the DOJ, NIA, CIA, and FBI Steele was UNRELIABLE / UNTRUSTWORTHY and that the Dossier was UNVERIFIED and UNRELIABLE PRIOR to them CHOOSING to illegally use the Dossier to commit FISA Court abuses and Perjury before Congress.



Now evidence shows the Brits gave the US / Obama administration's State Dept a report warning that Steele and the dossier had 'serious credibility' issues...

...and OBAMA'S STATE DEPARTMENT SAT ON IT FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.
** Remember, a newly-released e-mail from Obama National Security advisor Susan Rice sites Obama was briefed by then-FBI Director Comey in August 2016 about the 'Russia Collusion Investigation', demanded to be kept updated on every detail, that the Obama administration personnel who had access to this information and who attended meetings included Obama, Biden, Rice, Yates, Rosenstein, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, and SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY.

It should be noted that Ohr is also on record under oath stating that ROBERT MUELLER worked with him and Steele ON THE DOSSIER BEFORE the official investigation of Trump began and BEFORE Mueller was named Special Counsel....which, common sense dictates, if Ohr knew both Steele and the Dossier were unreliable / unverified then MUELLER KNEW as well....BEFORE he began his investigation.

Mueller also HAD to know Steele had been fired by the FBI for lying to the FBI, which is not only a crime but met the requirement for considering Steele unreliable and thus he and the Dossier could NOT be cited in the FISA Court warrant requests, which they were 3 times (1 initial and 2 renewals)!


As time goes on, not only does more and more evidence keep coming out exposing Obama and his top inner circle and agency directors were behind the exposed failed coup attempt but that Mueller was also working with the FBI / Ohr / Steele on the Dossier BEFORE the illegal FISA Court Warrant Requests were made and he knew everything....before he became Special Counsel!


Embarrassing: It Seems Even The British Knew The Trump Dossier Was Trash…in 2017

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Raw intelligence is supposed to be looked into.

Steele had RAW intelligence.

"Hey guys, I got some hints and suspicions about these things because these people talked about this. Maybe you should look into it."

Not everything is expected to be true exactly the way it was presented.

Its RAW.

yes but you verify it before getting warrants to spy on people. called due process.

That was done. The small portion of the Dossier, which appeared on one page of a 80 page document, was verified before it was used, and it was used to support another point, not as a "primary" source, according to published reports in reliable outlets, and according members of the Committee who have seen the FISA application.

sorry w/o links to back up the bullshit you say, what you say is more useless than tits on a nun.

Just because you're fingers are clearly broken and you're incapable of using google.

Why Trump is wrong about Carter Page, the dossier and the FISA warrant

 

[easyt65]

Who are the "failed coup plotters"? There is no proof that anyone has levied war against the United States or "adhere[d] to their enemies or given them "aid and comfort."

That all depends on your 'definitions' and how you attempt to wordsmith what you are claiming.

Obama learned, for example, that the Russians were attempting to 'interfere' in the US in 2014.
- By 'interfere' we have learned the Russians were attempting to hack into our power grid, were attempting to hack senior government officials' servers / e-mails, and they had launched a counter-intelligence program using social media to SUCCESSFULLY get snowflakes to organize and even march for them.

By their own admission, Obama administration members stated they had not done enough to stop the Russians, one claiming in an interview that he felt they had 'choked'. As a result, the Russian 'interference' continued for 2 (TWO) YEARS.

(One thing they never succeeded in doing was to actually hack into our election systems and successfully change 1 single vote cast for either candidate and change it to be for the other. Interestingly enough, though ALMOST going unreported -certainly by the faux news leftist media, was the fact that President Obama was attempting to 'nationalize' all state election processes at the time - trying to have his administration take control of every state election. If that doesn't scare the bejeesus out of you it should. In an effort to do so he was making the argument that he needed to do this to PROTECT anyone / any outside source from interfering and altering the election results...as he and Hillary tried to do. To prove this could be done he and his DHS actually tried several times to hack several states' election process...and, thank God, he failed. Had they NOT, control of every state election process might have been seized by the administration that was protecting Hillary from indictment/conviction so she could remain in the 2016 election and who was simultaneously overseeing the investigations of Trump and his team).

Despite former FBI agent Page testifying that the FBI had already concluded that no crime of collusion - especially involving Trump or his team - had ever been committed BEFORE the official Mueller investigation began, the Democrats, Obama's '4 Horsemen', and Mueller continued the 'investigation' for TWO YEARS...only to come to the FBI's original conclusion - NO COLLUSION.

THAT means the Democrats, Obama's 4-Horsemen, and Mueller continued to assist Putin / the Russians' goal of dividing the nation and undermining this President / government for 2 YEARS despite KNOWING no collusion ever happened ... except for Hillary paying a Trump-hating foreign spy who had a political agenda to hurt Trump's election chances and who worked with Russians and for the FBI.

Of course snowflakes will become triggered by this and will claim it is all a 'lie'....but one can not deny that this country has been extremely divided, the attempts to undermine the President AND remove him from office continue, and there continues to be no evidence / no indictment / no conviction of Trump or anyone associated with him for collusion going on 3 years now. One can NOT deny that all of this was some of Russia's objectives when they began 'interfering' at least as far back as 2014.

 

[easyt65]

Just ******* stop with the Putin/Trump party line. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF FISA ABUSE?

You should REALLY open and read some of the many link I have posted providing DOJ's Bruce Ohr's testimony under oath, providing State Department official Kevelac's testimony / notes, providing Deputy FBI Director McCabe's testimony under oath, etc...providing that evidence you are screeching for but really DON'T want to see because it will destroy your little Trump-hating illusion.

I am sure once the US IG's official report comes out and if it finally states that these FISA Abuses did happen you will find a way to declare it - his report - too is all a lie and / or that Horowitz is a Trump 'minion' engaged in the 'cover-up' OR that Barr 'got to him' and forced him to author a lie or changed Horowitz's report himself before it was released.

Sorry to completely threaten your delicate alternate-reality universe and destroy your Trump-hating false narratives. Try doing with ME what you do with all other facts / testimony / etc... debunking your claims - JUST IGNORE ME. (Feel free to use the 'ignore' feature USMB provides).

 

[Lysistrata]

Who are the "failed coup plotters"? There is no proof that anyone has levied war against the United States or "adhere[d] to their enemies or given them "aid and comfort."

That all depends on your 'definitions' and how you attempt to wordsmith what you are claiming.

Obama learned, for example, that the Russians were attempting to 'interfere' in the US in 2014.
- By 'interfere' we have learned the Russians were attempting to hack into our power grid, were attempting to hack senior government officials' servers / e-mails, and they had launched a counter-intelligence program using social media to SUCCESSFULLY get snowflakes to organize and even march for them.

By their own admission, Obama administration members stated they had not done enough to stop the Russians, one claiming in an interview that he felt they had 'choked'. As a result, the Russian 'interference' continued for 2 (TWO) YEARS.

(One thing they never succeeded in doing was to actually hack into our election systems and successfully change 1 single vote cast for either candidate and change it to be for the other. Interestingly enough, though ALMOST going unreported -certainly by the faux news leftist media, was the fact that President Obama was attempting to 'nationalize' all state election processes at the time - trying to have his administration take control of every state election. If that doesn't scare the bejeesus out of you it should. In an effort to do so he was making the argument that he needed to do this to PROTECT anyone / any outside source from interfering and altering the election results...as he and Hillary tried to do. To prove this could be done he and his DHS actually tried several times to hack several states' election process...and, thank God, he failed. Had they NOT, control of every state election process might have been seized by the administration that was protecting Hillary from indictment/conviction so she could remain in the 2016 election and who was simultaneously overseeing the investigations of Trump and his team).

Despite former FBI agent Page testifying that the FBI had already concluded that no crime of collusion - especially involving Trump or his team - had ever been committed BEFORE the official Mueller investigation began, the Democrats, Obama's '4 Horsemen', and Mueller continued the 'investigation' for TWO YEARS...only to come to the FBI's original conclusion - NO COLLUSION.

THAT means the Democrats, Obama's 4-Horsemen, and Mueller continued to assist Putin / the Russians' goal of dividing the nation and undermining this President / government for 2 YEARS despite KNOWING no collusion ever happened ... except for Hillary paying a Trump-hating foreign spy who had a political agenda to hurt Trump's election chances and who worked with Russians and for the FBI.

Of course snowflakes will become triggered by this and will claim it is all a 'lie'....but one can not deny that this country has been extremely divided, the attempts to undermine the President AND remove him from office continue, and there continues to be no evidence / no indictment / no conviction of Trump or anyone associated with him for collusion going on 3 years now. One can NOT deny that all of this was some of Russia's objectives when they began 'interfering' at least as far back as 2014.

Do you actually believe this stuff? Why should I believe in the credibility of the people whose testimony you cite? I don't. This is a right-wing narrative only, which doesn't make sense.

 

[easyt65]

sorry w/o links to back up the bullshit you say, what you say is more useless than tits on a nun.

Just because you're fingers are clearly broken and you're incapable of using google.
Why Trump is wrong about Carter Page, the dossier and the FISA warrant[/QUOTE]

Your Links states at the very top of the article:

Why Team Trump is wrong about Carter Page, the dossier and that secret warrant

Mueller's Russia probe wasn't launched because of Carter Page, and the dossier compiled by an ex-spy was only part of the evidence cited to get a warrant.


"...the FBI’s deputy director, Andrew McCabe, told Congress that a FISA warrant against the campaign adviser, Carter Page, would not have been granted without use of the dossier. That despite the FBI later determining that very little of the Democrat-funded document."


As reported by the US IG in a separate report, the FBI deviated from all normal FBI standard operating procedures in how it began their investigation and how they applied for FISA warrants. THE FISAs ON PAGE WERE PRE-APPROVED, THAT 'REVIEWS' AND APPROVALS CAME FROM 'VERY HIGH LEVELS', AND THAT THESE APPROVALS WERE 'INFORMAL, ORAL' APPROVALS:

"Despite the rigid description provided by Baker and Anderson, it appears the linearity process was not adhered to in the case of the Page FISA. According to Anderson, pre-approvals for the Page FISA were provided by both McCabe and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, before the FISA application was ever presented to her for review.

Anderson told investigators that the Page FISA “was handled a little bit differently in that sense, in that it received very high-level review and approvals — informal, oral approvals — before it ever came to me for signature.”

"Anderson also testified that she had not read the Page FISA prior to signing off on the application and passing it along to Comey for the final signature"

FBI Testimonies on Carter Page FISA Reveal Broken Oversight Process