BREAKING: Noted IPCC scientist says, "The science is not settled!"

[HereWeGoAgain]

Would love a link to that.

Google

You've made the claim. I've heard of theories that melting ice sheets will affect the distribution of global mass. Closest I've heard.

That took all of ten seconds....
https://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#q=axial+tilt+causes+climate+change

 

[mamooth]

So a predicted 1.5 centimeter / yr shift is what HereWeGoAgain calls "alarmism". He seems to be the only one getting alarmed about it.

Global warming could change Earth's tilt - environment - 20 August 2009 - New Scientist
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The team found that as the oceans warm and expand, more water will be pushed up and onto the Earth's shallower ocean shelves. Over the next century, the subtle effect is expected to cause the northern pole of Earth's spin axis to shift by roughly 1.5 centimetres per year in the direction of Alaska and Hawaii.
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[HereWeGoAgain]

So a predicted 1.5 centimeter / yr shift is what HereWeGoAgain calls "alarmism". He seems to be the only one getting alarmed about it.

Global warming could change Earth's tilt - environment - 20 August 2009 - New Scientist
---
The team found that as the oceans warm and expand, more water will be pushed up and onto the Earth's shallower ocean shelves. Over the next century, the subtle effect is expected to cause the northern pole of Earth's spin axis to shift by roughly 1.5 centimetres per year in the direction of Alaska and Hawaii.
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Amused at the antics of you warmers...yes. The change in axial tilt has been going on for billions of years along with the climate change it causes. So who you going to blame for axial tilt and why is it never discussed by the GW crowd?
And there is talk that the impending switch of our magnetic poles cause's weather change.
Why is this never brought up?
I would guess it's because there is no money to be made off either one since they cant be controlled.

That they avoid bringing up either one when climate change is discussed kinda makes you wonder.

Oh yeah....Harvard says that axial tilt causes ice age periods. You being a dumb ass warmer and all you should be jumping all over this when you consider our currant weather patterns. Or would that point to a completely different line of questioning about GW......one less profitable maybe?

 

[mamooth]

Amused at the antics of you warmers...yes. The change in axial tilt has been going on for billions of years along with the climate change it causes.

So you admit it's been majorly discussed by the science.

So who you going to blame for axial tilt and why is it never discussed by the GW crowd?

And now you say it's never discussed.

Oh wait. You're actually saying that "not panicking over a 1.5 centimeter per year change" is the same as "not discussing axial tilt, ever."

Not being numerically illiterate, I understand exactly how insignificant "1.5 cm/yr" is. You being numerically illiterate doesn't make us hypocrites.

And there is talk that the impending switch of our magnetic poles cause's weather change. Why is this never brought up?

Because there's no impending switch of the magnetic poles, unless you define "impending" as "in a few thousand years".

 

[whitehall]

Scientists are aware or should be aware that the star the earth depends on is a fickle bitch and the sun's energy is not constant or consistent. Scientists should be cognizant of the fact that the environment on the 3rd rock from the sun has been fraught with killing episodes of climate change. Nobody knows when the sun will burp on a nuclear tidbit or fart a gas event that will incinerate half the world or quit the job altogether and leave the universe frozen and dead. Why do alleged scientists think that global warming is a crisis and American decadence is the cause while the U.S. is suffering under record cold temperatures this year? The dirty little short answer secret is that scientists are paid to promote the extortion through lucrative federal grants and global warming has become a religion to the low information left which is incapable of ever enjoying themselves unless they have a crisis that they can blame on their own Country.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Amused at the antics of you warmers...yes. The change in axial tilt has been going on for billions of years along with the climate change it causes.

So you admit it's been majorly discussed by the science.

So who you going to blame for axial tilt and why is it never discussed by the GW crowd?

And now you say it's never discussed.

Oh wait. You're actually saying that "not panicking over a 1.5 centimeter per year change" is the same as "not discussing axial tilt, ever."

Not being numerically illiterate, I understand exactly how insignificant "1.5 cm/yr" is. You being numerically illiterate doesn't make us hypocrites.

And there is talk that the impending switch of our magnetic poles cause's weather change. Why is this never brought up?

Because there's no impending switch of the magnetic poles, unless you define "impending" as "in a few thousand years".

So lets see those discussions on global warming with axial tilt as part of the discussion.
I bet you've posted a bunch yourself right? And 1500 years is the blink of an eye in naturally occurring changes in the weather.

All your doing is dodging. And thats alright with me because GW/CC/whatever the fuck your going to call it next,is being exposed for what it is....pure bullshit.

 

[Impenitent]

Scientists are aware or should be aware that the star the earth depends on is a fickle bitch and the sun's energy is not constant or consistent. Scientists should be cognizant of the fact that the environment on the 3rd rock from the sun has been fraught with killing episodes of climate change. Nobody knows when the sun will burp on a nuclear tidbit or fart a gas event that will incinerate half the world or quit the job altogether and leave the universe frozen and dead. Why do alleged scientists think that global warming is a crisis and American decadence is the cause while the U.S. is suffering under record cold temperatures this year? The dirty little short answer secret is that scientists are paid to promote the extortion through lucrative federal grants and global warming has become a religion to the low information left which is incapable of ever enjoying themselves unless they have a crisis that they can blame on their own Country.

Although the sun has more than a billion years fuel, we will have terrible problems at about a billion, as the sun actually gets hot enough to evaporate our oceans. Once the water's gone, so are we.

 

[mamooth]

So lets see those discussions on global warming with axial tilt as part of the discussion.

Search on Milankovitch cycles, for example, where axial tilt is one factor.

And 1500 years is the blink of an eye in naturally occurring changes in the weather.

Red herring. The earth is warming _now_. Whether it might cool in 1500 years is something to worry about in, oh, 1400 years. We're trying to fix the problem that's happening right now.

All your doing is dodging. And thats alright with me because GW/CC/whatever the fuck your going to call it next, is being exposed for what it is....pure bullshit.

So are you always this pissy after you make a fool of yourself?

 

[SwimExpert]

So lets see those discussions on global warming with axial tilt as part of the discussion.

Search on Milankovitch cycles, for example, where axial tilt is one factor.

And 1500 years is the blink of an eye in naturally occurring changes in the weather.

Red herring. The earth is warming _now_. Whether it might cool in 1500 years is something to worry about in, oh, 1400 years. We're trying to fix the problem that's happening right now.

All your doing is dodging. And thats alright with me because GW/CC/whatever the fuck your going to call it next, is being exposed for what it is....pure bullshit.

So are you always this pissy after you make a fool of yourself?

That was really dumb.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So lets see those discussions on global warming with axial tilt as part of the discussion.

Search on Milankovitch cycles, for example, where axial tilt is one factor.

And 1500 years is the blink of an eye in naturally occurring changes in the weather.

Red herring. The earth is warming _now_. Whether it might cool in 1500 years is something to worry about in, oh, 1400 years. We're trying to fix the problem that's happening right now.

All your doing is dodging. And thats alright with me because GW/CC/whatever the fuck your going to call it next, is being exposed for what it is....pure bullshit.

So are you always this pissy after you make a fool of yourself?

The idea that you think we can do anything to change the climate right now,let alone over time,tells me all I need to know. You're a complete moron.

And if the discussion involving axial tilt and GW/CC is so prevalent you shouldn't have any problem linking some discussions from right here. Where are they?

 

[skookerasbil]

So a predicted 1.5 centimeter / yr shift is what HereWeGoAgain calls "alarmism". He seems to be the only one getting alarmed about it.

Global warming could change Earth's tilt - environment - 20 August 2009 - New Scientist
---
The team found that as the oceans warm and expand, more water will be pushed up and onto the Earth's shallower ocean shelves. Over the next century, the subtle effect is expected to cause the northern pole of Earth's spin axis to shift by roughly 1.5 centimetres per year in the direction of Alaska and Hawaii.
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Holy fuck......is this the new AGW stunt? Climate change will tilt the earths axis?


Let me tell you something........if you happen to have kids and you hear some mental case saying something so absurd, make sure the person is not supervising your kids alone and Im serious. Beyond the safety concern, you'd have to be concerned about the potential impact on kids thinking being around people so off the hook k00k. Think about it......that is akin to leaving your kids with somebody who bakes cookies with them, puts faces on the cookies and starts having conversations with the cookies.


I always knew that over the years, the bomb throwing would get exponentially more psychotic as the the level of desperation become more and more pronounced.


Its all good for we skeptics......its a quick talking point for the uninformed on this stuff that will commence with a belly laugh of epic proportions. A huge plurality will think this kind of stuff whacked out.......so if you are a skeptic, talk about it a lot. Its like telling the person that somebody you know saw Jesus on the way to work!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

Epilogue to this thread >>>>


Solar Provides 0.2% of Electric Supply--
January 29, 2014 - 5:26 PM


Solar Provides 0.2% of Electric Supply--Up From 0.02% Before Obama | CNS News

 

[ScienceRocks]

This is why I am a supporter of fusion. A few hundred billion into that would do better then a few hundred trillion into renewables.

Fact.

 

[skookerasbil]

This is why I am a supporter of fusion. A few hundred billion into that would do better then a few hundred trillion into renewables.

Fact.

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD


For once, Im all in with Matthew!!

 

[SwimExpert]

This is why I am a supporter of fusion. A few hundred billion into that would do better then a few hundred trillion into renewables.

Fact.

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD


For once, Im all in with Matthew!!

I really would like to be, on that one. But I'm not sure it's actually ever going to be possible.

 

[zeke]

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The Government has already taken action on two of Canada's largest sources of GHG emissions-transportation and electricity-and is continuing to work on regulations for other major sources of GHG emissions, including the oil and gas sector.
As a result of collective action by governments, consumers and industry, Canada's 2020 GHG emissions are projected to be about 130 Mt lower relative to a scenario with no action. This is the equivalent of shutting down 37 coal-fired electricity generation plants.
Since 2005, Canadian GHG emissions have decreased by 4.8 per cent while the economy has grown by 8.4 per cent.
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The Government's recent coal-fired electricity regulations further strengthen Canada's position as a world leader in clean electricity production.
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2025 vehicles will also consume up to 50 per cent less fuel than 2008 vehicles-leading to significant savings at the pump.
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With these tough new regulations in place, GHG emissions from 2018 model-year heavy-duty vehicles will be reduced by up to 23 per cent.
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The Government has made significant investments to begin Canada's transition to a clean energy economy and advance our climate change objectives.
Since 2006, the Government of Canada has taken action to build a more sustainable environment through significant funding in green infrastructure, energy efficiency, clean energy technologies and the production of cleaner energy and cleaner fuels.
Renewable Energy

Canada already has one of the cleanest electricity systems in the world and is the world's third-largest producer of hydroelectricity. Over three-quarters of Canada's power come from emission-free sources.
Our ecoENERGY for Renewable Power program is supporting 104 projects with investments of about $1.4 billion over 14 years to encourage the generation of electricity from renewable energy sources such as wind, low-impact hydro, biomass, photovoltaic and geothermal energy.
Carbon Capture and Storage

Over the past five years, the Government of Canada has committed over $500 million to carbon capture and storage initiatives.
This includes $240 million to Saskatchewan's Boundary Dam clean-coal initiative to build one of the world's first and largest commercial-scale carbon capture and storage projects for coal-fired electricity.
Energy Efficiency

Canada is providing $195 million, over five years, to continue the momentum in improving energy efficiency in Canada-helping to reduce the amount of energy Canadians need to drive their cars, live in their houses, and use their everyday appliances.
Clean Technology

Through Sustainable Development Technology Canada (SDTC), the Government has supported more than 245 clean technology projects that are part of a SDTC portfolio now valued at more than $2 billion, of which $1.4 billion is leveraged from partners in the private sector.
Building on this, Budget 2013 provides $325 million in funding over eight years to SDTC to support the development and demonstration of new clean technologies, which can save businesses money, create high paying jobs and drive innovation.
Recent examples of projects funded through the SDTC include:
Electrical vehicle charging stations
A system to convert municipal solid waste into energy rich gas to produce heat and electricity in remote and rural areas
Wind hybrid power plant
Climate Change Adaptation

Climate change poses risks to Canada's infrastructure and communities, its natural environment and the economy, and the health and well-being of Canadians.
As a result, the Government is also taking important steps to help Canadians adapt to a changing climate.
Since 2006, the Government has invested $235 million in domestic adaptation initiatives to improve our understanding of climate change and help Canadians plan for climate impacts, including in Canada's North.
World Class Science

Canada's climate science is an integral part of the global effort to understand climate system behaviour, the human influence on climate, and future climate change scenarios.
Canada's science contributes to domestic climate change policies and decisions, informs international bodies such as the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Arctic Council, and the Global Methane Initiative, and supports Canada's reporting obligations under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.
In line with this Government's commitment to climate change science, Budget 2011 included $29 million over five years for Environment Canada's Climate Change Prediction and Scenarios Program.
In May 2013, the Government of Canada provided funds for Arctic research through the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council's Climate Change and Atmospheric Research Initiative. This program supports collaborative climate change and atmospheric research, and will provide funding of more than $32 million over five years to seven university-based research networks.


Skooker, I knew that you would want to read more about how Canada feels about climate change.
I just can't believe that they didn't take the word of your new hero and decide to do nothing. What the hell is wrong with Canadians? Having a policy in place to address climate change.

You tell em skook. Hey I looked for all your published papers and credentials on climate change skook.
Didn't come up with anything. Aren't you publishing (beyond bullshit on a message board?)

 

[skookerasbil]

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Canada's Action on Climate Change

The Government of Canada's approach to climate change is focused on delivering environmental and economic benefits for all Canadians through:

Regulations to reduce greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions;
Strategic investments in areas such as clean energy technology and climate change adaptation;
World-class scientific research to support policy development and decision-making; and
Taking a leadership role in international climate change efforts.
Regulating Emissions

The Government is implementing a sector-by-sector regulatory approach to reduce GHG emissions.
The Government has already taken action on two of Canada's largest sources of GHG emissions-transportation and electricity-and is continuing to work on regulations for other major sources of GHG emissions, including the oil and gas sector.
As a result of collective action by governments, consumers and industry, Canada's 2020 GHG emissions are projected to be about 130 Mt lower relative to a scenario with no action. This is the equivalent of shutting down 37 coal-fired electricity generation plants.
Since 2005, Canadian GHG emissions have decreased by 4.8 per cent while the economy has grown by 8.4 per cent.
Electricity Regulations

The Government's recent coal-fired electricity regulations further strengthen Canada's position as a world leader in clean electricity production.
With these regulations, Canada became the first major coal user to ban the construction of traditional coal-fired electricity generation units. Our approach will foster a permanent transition towards lower or non-emitting types of generation such as high-efficiency natural gas and renewable energy.
Transportation Regulations

Light-duty vehicles

Canada has finalized regulations setting progressively more stringent standards for passenger automobiles and light trucks for model years 2011 to 2016, and we have proposed regulations to further improve fuel efficiency and reduce GHG emissions from model years 2017 and beyond.
As a result of our action to date, 2025 passenger vehicles and light trucks will emit about half as many GHGs as 2008 models.
2025 vehicles will also consume up to 50 per cent less fuel than 2008 vehicles-leading to significant savings at the pump.
Heavy-duty vehicles

Canada's final heavy-duty vehicle regulations establish progressively more stringent standards for 2014 to 2018 model-year heavy-duty vehicles such as full-size pick-ups, semi-trucks, garbage trucks and buses.
With these tough new regulations in place, GHG emissions from 2018 model-year heavy-duty vehicles will be reduced by up to 23 per cent.
Strategic Investments

The Government has made significant investments to begin Canada's transition to a clean energy economy and advance our climate change objectives.
Since 2006, the Government of Canada has taken action to build a more sustainable environment through significant funding in green infrastructure, energy efficiency, clean energy technologies and the production of cleaner energy and cleaner fuels.
Renewable Energy

Canada already has one of the cleanest electricity systems in the world and is the world's third-largest producer of hydroelectricity. Over three-quarters of Canada's power come from emission-free sources.
Our ecoENERGY for Renewable Power program is supporting 104 projects with investments of about $1.4 billion over 14 years to encourage the generation of electricity from renewable energy sources such as wind, low-impact hydro, biomass, photovoltaic and geothermal energy.
Carbon Capture and Storage

Over the past five years, the Government of Canada has committed over $500 million to carbon capture and storage initiatives.
This includes $240 million to Saskatchewan's Boundary Dam clean-coal initiative to build one of the world's first and largest commercial-scale carbon capture and storage projects for coal-fired electricity.
Energy Efficiency

Canada is providing $195 million, over five years, to continue the momentum in improving energy efficiency in Canada-helping to reduce the amount of energy Canadians need to drive their cars, live in their houses, and use their everyday appliances.
Clean Technology

Through Sustainable Development Technology Canada (SDTC), the Government has supported more than 245 clean technology projects that are part of a SDTC portfolio now valued at more than $2 billion, of which $1.4 billion is leveraged from partners in the private sector.
Building on this, Budget 2013 provides $325 million in funding over eight years to SDTC to support the development and demonstration of new clean technologies, which can save businesses money, create high paying jobs and drive innovation.
Recent examples of projects funded through the SDTC include:
Electrical vehicle charging stations
A system to convert municipal solid waste into energy rich gas to produce heat and electricity in remote and rural areas
Wind hybrid power plant
Climate Change Adaptation

Climate change poses risks to Canada's infrastructure and communities, its natural environment and the economy, and the health and well-being of Canadians.
As a result, the Government is also taking important steps to help Canadians adapt to a changing climate.
Since 2006, the Government has invested $235 million in domestic adaptation initiatives to improve our understanding of climate change and help Canadians plan for climate impacts, including in Canada's North.
World Class Science

Canada's climate science is an integral part of the global effort to understand climate system behaviour, the human influence on climate, and future climate change scenarios.
Canada's science contributes to domestic climate change policies and decisions, informs international bodies such as the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Arctic Council, and the Global Methane Initiative, and supports Canada's reporting obligations under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.
In line with this Government's commitment to climate change science, Budget 2011 included $29 million over five years for Environment Canada's Climate Change Prediction and Scenarios Program.
In May 2013, the Government of Canada provided funds for Arctic research through the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council's Climate Change and Atmospheric Research Initiative. This program supports collaborative climate change and atmospheric research, and will provide funding of more than $32 million over five years to seven university-based research networks.


Skooker, I knew that you would want to read more about how Canada feels about climate change.
I just can't believe that they didn't take the word of your new hero and decide to do nothing. What the hell is wrong with Canadians? Having a policy in place to address climate change.

You tell em skook. Hey I looked for all your published papers and credentials on climate change skook.
Didn't come up with anything. Aren't you publishing (beyond bullshit on a message board?)

0.2% s0n









Policies, plans, platforms, idea's, models.............meh............25 years we've been hearing about this shit.........and fossil fuels still D O M I N A T E and will continue to do so for decades and decades.

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[skookerasbil]

Evidently, several AGW climate crusaders recently connected the dots on their efforts and after realizing the thousands of hours wasted............







Hope those aren't any USMESSAGEBOARD Environment forum people........that'd suck. This forum would suck if they all disappeared.

 

[percysunshine]

Hey...everybody...Obama said the debate was settled in the SOTU speech.

And we know he never lies....