BREAKING NEWS: Biden pardons his son

[pknopp]

Oh... nolo contendre... no contest... no argument... but their parents don't have the Power of Pardon...

Right an unjust justice system.

I'm not defending Sleepy Old Uncle Joe for what he did... I'm merely saying that it's human and entirely understandable...

It's also human to have compassion for other families in the same condition. (for some).

 

[tahuyaman]

No, he did not. Hunter can always invoke his rights to not self incriminate.

Not now. He’s not facing any jeopardy . Now he can’t invoke his fifth amendment privilege when he’s not facing any criminal sanctions. He can’t incriminate himself any more. If he’s called as a witness for something during the time frame of his pardon, he must answer or face charges.

 

[tahuyaman]

I ain't apologizing for shit, kid.

That’s because you're stupid.

 

[tahuyaman]

'Bout fuckin' time.

What happened to that “no one is above the law” shit?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Knock yourself out. I have popcorn, beer and will be glad to watch you guys.

How long do you think it's going to be before Joe pardons his brother Jim?

 

[Kondor3]

Then I get him right from the start so don’t have to bend every rule later on
Tear jerk fail

Yes, yes, yes... very nice... but if you HAD screwed-up as a parent or he just Went Sour later and was in this situation, then... you'd do it too.

 

[White 6]

They were career criminals. Duh.

Are you saying your kinfolk were career criminals. Any good at it, or just thugs?

 

[daveman]

No, they are not. That is reportable, a filthy lie. Careful, davey.

I gotta be honest...if my kid was a pedo, I don't think I could forgive that.

But we already knew Joe is okay with it.

 

[JoeB131]

"A" tax error? Try again, Joey! The Merrick Garland DOJ deliberately let the statute of limitations on multiple episodes of tax evasion by Hunter Biden lapse, negating months of investigation by IRS agents.

Weiss had been appointed by Trump, and Garland has no authority over the IRS.

These were bullshit tax charges, and again- HUNTER PAID THE BACK TAX.

As opposed to Trump, who still hasn't made good on his tax fraud in NY state.

 

[daveman]

It's quite interesting. Joe's official pardon is at the bottom of his statement here...

Statement from President Joe Biden | The White House

Today, I signed a pardon for my son Hunter. From the day I took office, I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department’s decision-making, and I

www.whitehouse.gov

Hunter is completely pardoned from 1/1/2014 to 12/1/2024. The dates are interesting. It covers the whole time that Biden was selling "The Biden Brand," and it even covers very recent history - literally yesterday.

Why did Joe pick these dates, and not just the relevant time period for the taxes and gun?

These dates weren't just "round numbers;" they were carefully, and deliberately chosen.

Like you say, this is probably not the end of the matter, although the intent of Joe is to put this to rest.

I wonder if now Hunter can be compelled to testify on all of his foreign dealings since he no longer needs 5th Amendment protection related to self-incrimination.

I believe Hunter was appointed to the board of Burisma in 2014.

 

[JoeB131]

Similar to what they came up with on Trump, yet your kind wanted to put him in jail for life.

Can you say hypocrisy?

No, I want to put Trump in jail for life for trying to overthrow an election and his criminal misconduct in handling Covid.

 

[JoeB131]

A Ukraine company needed to hire a lawyer for help with their "corporate governance and compliance" in Ukraine? So instead of hiring a lawyer in Ukraine familiar with the rules in that country...instead they hired a US attorney with no experience with Ukraine...no experience in the Energy Sector and who didn't speak their language? Oh and just for the topper for how ridiculous that scenario would have been? The US lawyer is also a raging crack addict with a taste for under aged prostitutes!

Yeah...let's hire THAT guy! (Eye Roll) Nothing to do with who his father is!

The thing was, they weren't hiring a compliance lawyer for inside the country, they were hiring one to do business outside the Ukraine.

You do get corporations are multi-national entities now, right? That they often need international teams for compliance work.

Well, you'd get that if you ever had a job.

 

[struth]

Why is this a 10 year blanket pardon and not just a pardon for his 3 felony convictions?

He is pardoned from 2014-2024.

FOR ANYTHING FEDERAL.

WOW.

Unprecedented

 

[JoeB131]

Are you implying he will continue in his criminal ways? He can't claim the 5th for events in Ukraine, why he received money from the 1st lady of Moscow and other countries and were there others involved. If he refuses to answer or lies, he won't be immune from prosecution, those would be crimes not covered by the pardon.

You clearly have no idea how the fifth amendment works.

You are not required to provide testimony. It doesn't matter if you are hiding something criminal or just embarrassing.

He can just refuse to answer, and he will.

 

[JoeB131]

The entire “convicted felon” saga is collapsed. Indeed, People CAN be wrongly convicted if they are targeted. Conservatives know this and said this all along. Your side said “never”. Now your side does it.

Except Trump did what he was convicted of, so there's that.

Biden, Democrats, and the media banged their fists on the podiums/desks for years as stalwarts of justice… and now they cower and become absolute hypocrites.. they don’t believe what they say, neither should you or I

Not at all. Most sensible people see the prosecution of Hunter was an attempt to get at Biden by going after his family.

Now, it's bad enough that since Watergate, we've turned the justice system into something where you can strike at your opponents - and both parties do this - but it's quite another to go after family members.

 

[White 6]

How long do you think it's going to be before Joe pardons his brother Jim?

I have no idea what brother Jim has supposedly done. Is he the President's brother, there was scuttlebutt about, being involved in the scams they couldn't get Hunter on, so also never charged with anything? If true, it makes a good call as House investigating committees either have no clue and on political witch hunts, or just simply incompetent, thought many being lawyers and committees have subpoena powers for document, records, sometime even people. Look at their long-running investigation of Hillary, and not only unable to nab her on anything after hours of her being questioned by everybody who was anybody, but couldn't even get a referral to DOJ, with Trump in the White House promising to "Lock Her Up", "Crooked Hillary". I think house investigations were better, back in the 1990s. The political hacks, up there, these days, can't find their own butt with both hands. I don't even think they really care, except for the face time on FOXNEWS to enhance support at election time, incompetent or not.

 

[daveman]

Except Trump did what he was convicted of, so there's that.



Not at all. Most sensible people see the prosecution of Hunter was an attempt to get at Biden by going after his family.

Now, it's bad enough that since Watergate, we've turned the justice system into something where you can strike at your opponents - and both parties do this - but it's quite another to go after family members.

Hunter broke the law. Far more than what he was charged with.

But it seems Democrats are above the law, despite earlier lofty pronouncements otherwise.

 

[struth]

You clearly have no idea how the fifth amendment works.

You are not required to provide testimony. It doesn't matter if you are hiding something criminal or just embarrassing.

He can just refuse to answer, and he will.

The 5th amendment doesn’t protect you from testify about something embarrassing! Haha wow you dembots are dumb

 

[JoeB131]

The most important notion is that they lectured how the justice department was incorruptible and if Trump was found guilty it was gospel.

Now Joe is saying the only reason Hunter was targeted is because of political reasons.

The entire narrative they gave is a fraud. It fell like a house of cards. We know Trump was targeted politically, especially in New York. Democrats said such a thing was impossible, now they say judicial corruption exists. Complete hypocrisy

Hunter didn't make a mistake or an error on his return... he intentionally hid money from the IRS for decades and did not pay what he owed... that's called tax evasion and its a felony... had he come forward and exposed a mistake in year one and then paid his taxes and the penalties he would not be charged with evasion....
For fraud and tax evasion, the tax law dictates that if you're convicted, you may be fined up to $100,000 and sent to jail for up to five years....

That's one interpretation. Another is that he simply didn't know that his business entertainment expenses weren't as tax deductable as he thought they were. In any event, this became a moot point when he paid his back taxes with interest.

Depends, if the investigation into hunter has roots into the investigation into Joe. There was a reason Joe made the pardon date back to 2014. If it were just about the gun crime and the taxes, he could have pardoned him for those things. But he made it a blanket pardon for 10 years.

Darn straight. The last thing he wants is Trump further harassing Hunter with more bullshit charges now that he's putting clowns in charge of the DOJ like Biondi and Patel.

 

[JoeB131]

Hunter broke the law. Far more than what he was charged with.

But it seems Democrats are above the law, despite earlier lofty pronouncements otherwise.

Except you couldn't prove any of that other stuff.

SO you got a minor tax charge and a minor gun violation.

FOr which David Weiss spent $3.4 million.

Something the IRS or ATF never would have wasted that much money on a single case (or two cases.)