Breaking...Lois Lerner Held In Contempt Of Congress

[JakeStarkey]

"The potential for legal jeopardy for her from even her most truthful and accurate testimony under these circumstances is very real." From her attorney

Weren't you swearing up and down in another thread that there was no way she could be held in contempt?
Oops.

Why should there be legal jeopardy for her if she did nothing wrong? What is she hiding?

Ghost rep.

Because she, like the woman in DOJ in Bush's administration, is a chew toy for her political enemies.

Look how the Dems chased down Tom DeLay.

 

[boedicca]

Are you telling me that when one is being 'interviewed' by the police or any such authority, that they can't claim their innocence and then 'plead the Fifth' ?

Have you ever heard of this line? "You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law".

She didn't remain silent or stick to asserting the 5th, she chose to speak and opened the doors to more questioning.

That is not how it works.

Uh. Yes it is.

She made a statement instead of just pleading the 5th. So, she blew her own "Fif" rights.


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[RandallFlagg]

"The potential for legal jeopardy for her from even her most truthful and accurate testimony under these circumstances is very real." From her attorney

Weren't you swearing up and down in another thread that there was no way she could be held in contempt?
Oops.

You lie. I never said she could not be held in contempt.

I said if it ever saw a judge, she would be found not guilty.

I've never doubted the political maneuverings of congress, and that's what the Contempt vote was: political theater.

Why should there be legal jeopardy for her if she did nothing wrong? What is she hiding?

What was Monica Goodling hiding?

Here's the deal Dobsey...

We have "government servants" who make $120,000 a year, sit on their asses all day watching porn on government computers and they don't get fired.

We no longer have a "government" - we have a "Kingdom" where the "serfs"and the "peasants" are the people.


NOTHING will happen to this *****. NOTHING. I know that makes you Brownshirts happy - but it make me quite sad.

 

[paperview]

Have you ever heard of this line? "You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law".

She didn't remain silent or stick to asserting the 5th, she chose to speak and opened the doors to more questioning.

That is not how it works.

Uh. Yes it is.

She made a statement instead of just pleading the 5th. So, she blew her own "Fif" rights.


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No, she didn't, Oliver Wendall.

 

[boedicca]

Yes she did.

So there!

 

[The Rabbi]

"The potential for legal jeopardy for her from even her most truthful and accurate testimony under these circumstances is very real." From her attorney

Weren't you swearing up and down in another thread that there was no way she could be held in contempt?
Oops.

You lie. I never said she could not be held in contempt.

I said if it ever saw a judge, she would be found not guilty.

I've never doubted the political maneuverings of congress, and that's what the Contempt vote was: political theater.

Why should there be legal jeopardy for her if she did nothing wrong? What is she hiding?

What was Monica Goodling hiding?

Well that doesnt look like it's going to happen, how is it, Sweetheart?

I dont know who Monica Gooding is. Why don't you just answer the question: What is Lois Lerner hiding that she won't testify?

 

[Mathbud1]

Weren't you swearing up and down in another thread that there was no way she could be held in contempt?
Oops.

You lie. I never said she could not be held in contempt.

I said if it ever saw a judge, she would be found not guilty.

I've never doubted the political maneuverings of congress, and that's what the Contempt vote was: political theater.

Why should there be legal jeopardy for her if she did nothing wrong? What is she hiding?

What was Monica Goodling hiding?

Well that doesnt look like it's going to happen, how is it, Sweetheart?

I dont know who Monica Gooding is. Why don't you just answer the question: What is Lois Lerner hiding that she won't testify?

I think its pretty obvious that "The potential for legal jeopardy for her from even her most truthful and accurate testimony under these circumstances is very real" exactly because her most truthful testimony would indicate her guilt.

That said, my understanding is that "waiving your 5th amendment rights" to answer one question does not automatically waive your 5th amendment right for any future questions. You can assert that right at any time for any question. However, if you answer a question you can't go back and claim 5th amendment protection for that question after you have waived your right.

In a little online research it looks like during a criminal trial taking the 5th cannot be held against you, but during civil proceedings it is allowed to be interpreted by the court as indicating wrong doing.

Do congressional hearings count as civil or criminal proceedings?

(I know next to nothing about law.)

 

[Vigilante]

A witness can invoke the 5th Amendment any time. There is no time limit, there is no exclusion unless offered immunity in a grand jury.

Guess what?

She may not make a blanket statement of innocence, and then refuse to defend her assertions. You're simply wrong. As usual.

She made that statement in her opening remarks. She was not then being questioned.

When she was questioned, then she invoked the 5th. She's fine.

However, if the DA as a result of a grand jury investigation grants her immunity, then she must testify.

So far that has not happened.

Had she been worn in before her statement?

 

[paperview]

Weren't you swearing up and down in another thread that there was no way she could be held in contempt?
Oops.

You lie. I never said she could not be held in contempt.

I said if it ever saw a judge, she would be found not guilty.

I've never doubted the political maneuverings of congress, and that's what the Contempt vote was: political theater.

Why should there be legal jeopardy for her if she did nothing wrong? What is she hiding?

What was Monica Goodling hiding?

Well that doesnt look like it's going to happen, how is it, Sweetheart?

I dont know who Monica Gooding is. Why don't you just answer the question: What is Lois Lerner hiding that she won't testify?

Monica Goodling was one of the Bushie's operatives.

She took the fifth.

The quote I provided was from her lawyer.

Connies were just fine with it then. I remember.

 

[Vigilante]

IRS to Turn Over All Lerner E-Mails

*National Review ^
Less than 24-hours after the House voted to hold disgraced Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress, the agency agreed to turn over all of Lerner’s e-mail and correspondence to a House panel investigating its targeting of conservative non-profit groups. “While it is good that we are finally getting these emails, it should never have taken this long,” Ways and Means Committee chairman Dave Camp said in a statement, arguing that the e-mails are critical to his investigation. “The Committee will thoroughly...

 

[The Rabbi]

You lie. I never said she could not be held in contempt.

I said if it ever saw a judge, she would be found not guilty.

I've never doubted the political maneuverings of congress, and that's what the Contempt vote was: political theater.
What was Monica Goodling hiding?

Well that doesnt look like it's going to happen, how is it, Sweetheart?

I dont know who Monica Gooding is. Why don't you just answer the question: What is Lois Lerner hiding that she won't testify?

Monica Goodling was one of the Bushie's operatives.

She took the fifth.

The quote I provided was from her lawyer.

Connies were just fine with it then. I remember.

What is Lerner hiding that she wont testify?

 

[The T]

Well that doesnt look like it's going to happen, how is it, Sweetheart?

I dont know who Monica Gooding is. Why don't you just answer the question: What is Lois Lerner hiding that she won't testify?

Monica Goodling was one of the Bushie's operatives.

She took the fifth.

The quote I provided was from her lawyer.

Connies were just fine with it then. I remember.

What is Lerner hiding that she wont testify?

If she decides to escape this (If Holder decides to prosecute...which I suspect he'll pass on for partisan/political reasons)? Is it too late to ask for immunity? And if so do you think she will rat out the real rats?

 

[Vigilante]

JOHN BOEHNER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ARREST LOIS LERNER

*Breitbart.com ^

The House voted Wednesday to hold disgraced IRS official Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress for refusing to testify about the tax agency's targeting of conservative non-profit groups. While most Republicans said the act was largely symbolic, the chamber technically has the authority to unilaterally arrest her now. The underlying offense which Lerner allegedly violated (on national television) is 2 U.S.C. § 192, a law passed by Congress in 1857 making it a federal crime for someone to appear before Congress and refuse to testify in answer to questions posed to her by committee members.

Can you imagine, if "BONER" ever found a pair of BALLS to do this... The subversives HEADS WOULD EXPLODE!!!....ROTFLMFAO!!!!

 

[The T]

JOHN BOEHNER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ARREST LOIS LERNER

*Breitbart.com ^

The House voted Wednesday to hold disgraced IRS official Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress for refusing to testify about the tax agency's targeting of conservative non-profit groups. While most Republicans said the act was largely symbolic, the chamber technically has the authority to unilaterally arrest her now. The underlying offense which Lerner allegedly violated (on national television) is 2 U.S.C. § 192, a law passed by Congress in 1857 making it a federal crime for someone to appear before Congress and refuse to testify in answer to questions posed to her by committee members.

Can you imagine, if "BONER" ever found a pair of BALLS to do this... The subversives HEADS WOULD EXPLODE!!!....ROTFLMFAO!!!!

We'll see...will he push it that far? Or will he wait to see how DOJ responds?

 

[Vigilante]

JOHN BOEHNER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ARREST LOIS LERNER

*Breitbart.com ^

The House voted Wednesday to hold disgraced IRS official Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress for refusing to testify about the tax agency's targeting of conservative non-profit groups. While most Republicans said the act was largely symbolic, the chamber technically has the authority to unilaterally arrest her now. The underlying offense which Lerner allegedly violated (on national television) is 2 U.S.C. § 192, a law passed by Congress in 1857 making it a federal crime for someone to appear before Congress and refuse to testify in answer to questions posed to her by committee members.

Can you imagine, if "BONER" ever found a pair of BALLS to do this... The subversives HEADS WOULD EXPLODE!!!....ROTFLMFAO!!!!

We'll see...will he push it that far? Or will he wait to see how DOJ responds?

Politically savvy to wait on the AG and the regime's APPOINTED D.C. AG...showing the nation just how CORRUPT both are, and then DEMANDING a spec. Prosecutor would be a feather in the Reps hat!

 

[The T]

JOHN BOEHNER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ARREST LOIS LERNER

*Breitbart.com ^

The House voted Wednesday to hold disgraced IRS official Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress for refusing to testify about the tax agency's targeting of conservative non-profit groups. While most Republicans said the act was largely symbolic, the chamber technically has the authority to unilaterally arrest her now. The underlying offense which Lerner allegedly violated (on national television) is 2 U.S.C. § 192, a law passed by Congress in 1857 making it a federal crime for someone to appear before Congress and refuse to testify in answer to questions posed to her by committee members.

Can you imagine, if "BONER" ever found a pair of BALLS to do this... The subversives HEADS WOULD EXPLODE!!!....ROTFLMFAO!!!!

We'll see...will he push it that far? Or will he wait to see how DOJ responds?

Politically savvy to wait on the AG and the regime's APPOINTED D.C. AG...showing the nation just how CORRUPT both are, and then DEMANDING a spec. Prosecutor would be a feather in the Reps hat!

Yep. And why I asked the question. It needs to be illustrated...Boehner shouldn't jump the gun here...and if Holder dismisses it? It's open season on Holder, Obama...and all the perps involved, and what a fall from grace they will suffer. (And with good reason).

 

[Pheonixops]

She waived those rights when she made her big I'm innocent but...speech. And she won't be prosecuted for taking the fifth she will be prosecuted for why she had to plead the 5th.

Are you telling me that when one is being 'interviewed' by the police or any such authority, that they can't claim their innocence and then 'plead the Fifth' ?

Have you ever heard of this line? "You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law".

She didn't remain silent or stick to asserting the 5th, she chose to speak and opened the doors to more questioning.

Where does it state that she can't assert her innocence and then invoke the Fifth for any other subsequent questions she doesn't want to answer?

 

[Pheonixops]

Taking the Fifth: A congressional tradition

Oh my, now there's a tradition we can be proud of. Maybe it should be a national holiday.

LOL, we should be proud that people are able to invoke the Constitutional rights.

 

[Intolerant]

I'm confused by those who view Lois' actions as completely acceptable and actually defend a government official, who by definition is employed to serve the interests of the people, who refuses to answer to a congressional inquiry. Contempt of court and ultimately jail time is appropriate. I assume this is a partisan position - can you imagine the outrage if members of Bush administration, those officials paid by the taxpayers, took the 5th when asked about events/issues under their direct control/knowledge? Eric Holder takes the 5th, then Lois takes the 5th, who's next, joe Biden?
For those who put their heads in the sand and that nothing is going on here: by definition of pleading the 5th protects a person from "self incrimination" - so there's obviously some chance of incrimination. When Obama campaigned and touted the most "transparent" administration in history - this is what he meant? This stuff is not going way, its rotting and festering and more emails are surfacing that contradict their previous lies.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Lerner's attorney said she did not waive her rights.

"Today's vote has nothing to do with the facts or the law. Its only purpose is to keep the baseless IRS 'conspiracy' alive through the mid-term elections," said William W. Taylor III. "It is unfortunate that the majority party in the House has put politics before a citizen's constitutional rights."

House holds former IRS official Lerner in contempt

Exactly.