BREAKING: Family of Palestinian toddler burned alive sue Israel

[Coyote]

There are no similar conflicts today. Israel controls and rules over an occupied territory and population and bombs the crap out of the territory it controls as long as the population is non-Jewish. The civilian to combatant ratio casualties of the Israelis is naturally the worst, as they have complete control of the territory and the people they are killing.

Sudan's previous action in Darfur is perhaps similar.

I think what's going on in Syria is similar though the degree is different. A civil war, Government forces vs rebels.

 

[Shusha]

The civilian to combatant ratio casualties of the Israelis is naturally the worst, as they have complete control of the territory and the people they are killing.

Actually, Israel's civilian to combatant ratio is the best ever achieved in modern warfare -- far fewer civilians killed than in any other conflict in the world.

 

[montelatici]

The civilian to combatant ratio casualties of the Israelis is naturally the worst, as they have complete control of the territory and the people they are killing.

Actually, Israel's civilian to combatant ratio is the best ever achieved in modern warfare -- far fewer civilians killed than in any other conflict in the world.

That is absolutely untrue. In Gaza, for example 7 in 10 casualties were civilians, the highest in modern times.

"The U.N. says 7 in 10 Palestinians killed in Gaza were civilians."

The Gaza war still rages in a fight over numbers

 

[Slyhunter]

There are no similar conflicts today. Israel controls and rules over an occupied territory and population and bombs the crap out of the territory it controls as long as the population is non-Jewish. The civilian to combatant ratio casualties of the Israelis is naturally the worst, as they have complete control of the territory and the people they are killing.

Sudan's previous action in Darfur is perhaps similar.

If they had complete control, Hamas wouldn't have any arms.

 

[P F Tinmore]

On the positive side - Israel has made efforts to really minimize civilian casualties, far more so than many other nations in a similar circumstance. They've gotten very good at precision targetting as well.

OK, but the numbers don't add up. Start @ 11:40 - 13:45



With that in mind, why were there only a few hundred militants killed? Civilians and civilian infrastructure seems to be the major targets. I stand by my claim of Israel's war crimes.

In what particular conflicts though? AND - how does that compare to other similar conflicts?

You are ignoring the facts. Israel deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure. Look at shejaiya, for example.



Why did Israel destroy that entire town and kill all those people? Were there that many militants there? No, Israel wanted to increase its buffer zone.

Of course, smaller villages, factories, farms and farm land had to be destroyed also.

This is similar to what Israel did in Rafah in 2003 when Rachel Corrie was killed. Israel was destroying hundreds of Palestinian homes because they wanted a buffer zone with Egypt.

 

[Hollie]

The civilian to combatant ratio casualties of the Israelis is naturally the worst, as they have complete control of the territory and the people they are killing.

Actually, Israel's civilian to combatant ratio is the best ever achieved in modern warfare -- far fewer civilians killed than in any other conflict in the world.

That is absolutely untrue. In Gaza, for example 7 in 10 casualties were civilians, the highest in modern times.

"The U.N. says 7 in 10 Palestinians killed in Gaza were civilians."

The Gaza war still rages in a fight over numbers

That's not surprising as your Islamic terrorist heroes wage war from civilian areas. Would you have preferred even greater numbers of civilians were killed? Unfortunately for you, it would not have provided you with a proportionally greater propaganda tool.

 

[Hollie]

On the positive side - Israel has made efforts to really minimize civilian casualties, far more so than many other nations in a similar circumstance. They've gotten very good at precision targetting as well.

OK, but the numbers don't add up. Start @ 11:40 - 13:45



With that in mind, why were there only a few hundred militants killed? Civilians and civilian infrastructure seems to be the major targets. I stand by my claim of Israel's war crimes.

In what particular conflicts though? AND - how does that compare to other similar conflicts?

You are ignoring the facts. Israel deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure. Look at shejaiya, for example.



Why did Israel destroy that entire town and kill all those people? Were there that many militants there? No, Israel wanted to increase its buffer zone.

Of course, smaller villages, factories, farms and farm land had to be destroyed also.

This is similar to what Israel did in Rafah in 2003 when Rachel Corrie was killed. Israel was destroying hundreds of Palestinian homes because they wanted a buffer zone with Egypt.

"You are ignoring the facts. Israel deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure"

Link?

 

[Slyhunter]

On the positive side - Israel has made efforts to really minimize civilian casualties, far more so than many other nations in a similar circumstance. They've gotten very good at precision targetting as well.

OK, but the numbers don't add up. Start @ 11:40 - 13:45



With that in mind, why were there only a few hundred militants killed? Civilians and civilian infrastructure seems to be the major targets. I stand by my claim of Israel's war crimes.

In what particular conflicts though? AND - how does that compare to other similar conflicts?

You are ignoring the facts. Israel deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure. Look at shejaiya, for example.



Why did Israel destroy that entire town and kill all those people? Were there that many militants there? No, Israel wanted to increase its buffer zone.

Of course, smaller villages, factories, farms and farm land had to be destroyed also.

This is similar to what Israel did in Rafah in 2003 when Rachel Corrie was killed. Israel was destroying hundreds of Palestinian homes because they wanted a buffer zone with Egypt.

"You are ignoring the facts. Israel deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure"

Link?

You are ignoring the fact that Israel is fighting for survival and they have to hit their enemy combatants where they are not where they wished them to be.

If I was in charge I would bring back Carpet bombings and Napalm.

If Palestinians don't want to die they should stop attacking Israel.

 

[Coyote]

On the positive side - Israel has made efforts to really minimize civilian casualties, far more so than many other nations in a similar circumstance. They've gotten very good at precision targetting as well.

OK, but the numbers don't add up. Start @ 11:40 - 13:45



With that in mind, why were there only a few hundred militants killed? Civilians and civilian infrastructure seems to be the major targets. I stand by my claim of Israel's war crimes.

In what particular conflicts though? AND - how does that compare to other similar conflicts?

You are ignoring the facts. Israel deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure. Look at shejaiya, for example.



Why did Israel destroy that entire town and kill all those people? Were there that many militants there? No, Israel wanted to increase its buffer zone.

Of course, smaller villages, factories, farms and farm land had to be destroyed also.

This is similar to what Israel did in Rafah in 2003 when Rachel Corrie was killed. Israel was destroying hundreds of Palestinian homes because they wanted a buffer zone with Egypt.

I looked that one up here: Battle of Shuja'iyya - Wikipedia and you might have a point in regards to Israel's proportionality and it certainly looks excessive imo. What you neglect to mention though is that they had been firing rockets into Israel's civilian population. There is also claims that Hamas prevented civilians from leaving in which case two possible cases for war crimes

 

[P F Tinmore]

On the positive side - Israel has made efforts to really minimize civilian casualties, far more so than many other nations in a similar circumstance. They've gotten very good at precision targetting as well.

OK, but the numbers don't add up. Start @ 11:40 - 13:45



With that in mind, why were there only a few hundred militants killed? Civilians and civilian infrastructure seems to be the major targets. I stand by my claim of Israel's war crimes.

In what particular conflicts though? AND - how does that compare to other similar conflicts?

You are ignoring the facts. Israel deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure. Look at shejaiya, for example.



Why did Israel destroy that entire town and kill all those people? Were there that many militants there? No, Israel wanted to increase its buffer zone.

Of course, smaller villages, factories, farms and farm land had to be destroyed also.

This is similar to what Israel did in Rafah in 2003 when Rachel Corrie was killed. Israel was destroying hundreds of Palestinian homes because they wanted a buffer zone with Egypt.

"You are ignoring the facts. Israel deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure"

Link?

You are ignoring the fact that Israel is fighting for survival and they have to hit their enemy combatants where they are not where they wished them to be.

If I was in charge I would bring back Carpet bombings and Napalm.

If Palestinians don't want to die they should stop attacking Israel.

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project.

 

[louie888]

What you neglect to mention though is that they had been firing rockets into Israel's civilian population.

That is a claim by known liars who use their lies to continue their ethnic cleansing. Stop falling for it or show me the proof.

There is also claims that Hamas prevented civilians from leaving in which case two possible cases for war crimes

YES! "Claims," and from known liars who use their lies to continue their ethnic cleansing. Stop falling for it or show me the proof.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Unlike radical Hamas and Hezbollah attacking just innocents and not military, Israel never purposely targets innocents.

Wrong, that's another jewish lie you people keep pushing.

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[LA RAM FAN]

Unlike radical Hamas and Hezbollah attacking just innocents and not military, Israel never purposely targets innocents.
Sick are the people who hide anongst innocents putting them at risk then using accidents to deflect blame.
Sick is support for people who use innocents as shields then displacing blame for casualties.
Sick is placing a LIVE kid in a casket
claiming him a victim or setting up fake casualty scenes for false sympathy. (like the time that Palestinian kid fell out the casket and climbed back in caught on film).
Sick is knowing the difference but chosing support for the less humane between those who purposely target woman and children in schools, buses, hospitals and weddings and lob rockets that can hit anyone including religious sites and arabs , babies, vs those who mainly target rocket launches and manufacturing factories and supplies=(pin point targetting).

Yeah right, when Israel bombs a residential apartment building it is, de facto, targeting women and childen. Israel kills hundreds and even thousands of women and children at a pop. That's what's sick

Sick is also repeating a bunch of Hasbara propaganda as you are doing.

you nailed it.the shills of Israel get paid major bucks for their lies they post here everyday,they would not come back here for free for all the ass beatings they get all the time here.no way,no how.

 

[Shusha]

You are ignoring the facts. Israel deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure. Look at shejaiya, for example.

Why did Israel destroy that entire town and kill all those people? Were there that many militants there? No, Israel wanted to increase its buffer zone.

Oh, you are so disingenuous.

1. Israel had a military objective in that space -- namely military infrastructure and weapons caches, strongholds, military bases and an extensive tunnel system.

2. Israel used leaflets, radio calls, phone calls, text messages and verbal warnings for civilians to leave the area and left them time to do so.

3. The neighborhood became a place of intense fighting between Israel and opposing forces. 15 IDF soliders died in the fighting, along with 65 Palestinians. 20 Palestinians civilians were shot and killed by Hamas.

4. Later investigations show the proportion of militant to civilian deaths to be nearly 3.5 to 1.


The bottom line is that your claim above is a one-sided falsehood which ignores and minimizes Gazan complicity and responsibility.

 

[louie888]

Oh, you are so disingenuous.

Oh, you are so disingenuous.

If you can't learn to live in peace there, then find somewhere that you can. Imo, you people would be best suited for Antarctica as there is no one there.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What you neglect to mention though is that they had been firing rockets into Israel's civilian population.

Hamas offered an agreement to Israel for both sides to stop killing civilians. Israel rejected the offer.

If Israel does not care about its civilians, why should Hamas?

 

[Coyote]

Unlike radical Hamas and Hezbollah attacking just innocents and not military, Israel never purposely targets innocents.
Sick are the people who hide anongst innocents putting them at risk then using accidents to deflect blame.
Sick is support for people who use innocents as shields then displacing blame for casualties.
Sick is placing a LIVE kid in a casket
claiming him a victim or setting up fake casualty scenes for false sympathy. (like the time that Palestinian kid fell out the casket and climbed back in caught on film).
Sick is knowing the difference but chosing support for the less humane between those who purposely target woman and children in schools, buses, hospitals and weddings and lob rockets that can hit anyone including religious sites and arabs , babies, vs those who mainly target rocket launches and manufacturing factories and supplies=(pin point targetting).

Yeah right, when Israel bombs a residential apartment building it is, de facto, targeting women and childen. Israel kills hundreds and even thousands of women and children at a pop. That's what's sick

Sick is also repeating a bunch of Hasbara propaganda as you are doing.

you nailed it.the shills of Israel get paid major bucks for their lies they post here everyday,they would not come back here for free for all the ass beatings they get all the time here.no way,no how.

first time I've been accused of being a schill for Israel!

So...let's see...Hamas has never fired rockets into Israel...that's your claim?

Why hasn't Hamas held elections in ... what... more than ten years?

 

[Coyote]

What you neglect to mention though is that they had been firing rockets into Israel's civilian population.

Hamas offered an agreement to Israel for both sides to stop killing civilians. Israel rejected the offer.

If Israel does not care about its civilians, why should Hamas?

When and what agreement?

 

[Shusha]

Hamas offered an agreement to Israel for both sides to stop killing civilians. Israel rejected the offer.

Do you mean the 2008 agreement brokered through Egypt?

 

[louie888]

Hamas offered an agreement to Israel for both sides to stop killing civilians. Israel rejected the offer.

Do you mean the 2008 agreement brokered through Egypt?

Stop derailing, this thread is about incinerating a child that was asleep.