Boycott Kerry!

[Victory67]

Big differences though. The Palestinians are not natives. They are recent 20th century invaders.

British research shows this to be false.

As does the natural growth rates for Israeli Arabs.

 

[aris2chat]

Its a stupid requirement, meant to ruin negotiations.

The Oslo Accords didn't require the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish State.

Nor was this mentioned in the Camp David negotiations, the negotiatians at Taba, etc.

Its just a new attempt to kill peace.

>>The basic paradigm of the Oslo accords, signed in 1993, held that both the Israelis and the Palestinians were, at long last, prepared to recognize the legitimacy of each other’s national rights and aspirations. With that essential threshold crossed, it was thought, all that would remain was to work out a compromise on core issues: where to draw borders, whether and how to divide Jerusalem, and how to resolve the Palestinian demand that refugees from the 1948 war be allowed to return to Israel.

That, at least, was the theory. Yet over the course of the last 18 years, during which negotiations were conducted along these lines, the rhetoric and actions of the Palestinian leadership have proved that paradigm wrong. The Palestinians have not in fact recognized the legitimacy of the national rights of the Jewish people. <<Why the PA Must Recognize a Jewish State, foreignaffairs.com

 

[aris2chat]

Big differences though. The Palestinians are not natives. They are recent 20th century invaders.

British research shows this to be false.

As does the natural growth rates for Israeli Arabs.

British records show the numbers of immigrants from arab states and the quotas used to deny legal immigration of jews, in violation of their mandate.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Big differences though. The Palestinians are not natives. They are recent 20th century invaders.

British research shows this to be false.

As does the natural growth rates for Israeli Arabs.

British records show the numbers of immigrants from arab states and the quotas used to deny legal immigration of jews, in violation of their mandate.

Could you post those stats?

 

[aris2chat]

British research shows this to be false.

As does the natural growth rates for Israeli Arabs.

British records show the numbers of immigrants from arab states and the quotas used to deny legal immigration of jews, in violation of their mandate.

Could you post those stats?

Hope Simpson Commission and Peel Commission

 

[DriftingSand]

Mr. Vietnam Hero Howdy Doody Kerry and the Obmama Administration getting more shifty and sneaky by the minute.


It would appear as though the Obama Administration is rescinding its earlier support for Israel’s peace condition that the Palestinian Authority officially recognize it as the Jewish state.

In a interview with the Palestinian newspaper Al-Quds on Saturday, US State Department Spokeswoman Jan Psaki explained that “the American position is clear, Israel is a Jewish state. However, we do not see a need that both sides recognize this position as part of the final agreement.”

However, in late January, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, who is close to the White House, wrote that Secretary of State John Kerry’s Middle East peace proposal would call on the Palestinians to “recognize Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people” as one of the core concessions necessary for a final status peace agreement.

Washington's About Face on the Jewish State? - Israel Today | Israel News

Just something to think about: It's very possible that the American Indians see the government of the USA in a similar way that Palestinians see the Israeli government. I have a feeling that many American Indians will NEVER recognize America as anything but Indian land. I may not agree with them but I certainly won't attempt to force them to see things my way.

Big differences though. The Palestinians are not natives. They are recent 20th century invaders. The Jews are the ones who can trace their ancestors to the ancient inhabiters of the land.

Technically, American Indians aren't native to the Americas either. It's believed that they derived from Asiatic peoples that migrated here. Also of some importance is the fact that the oldest fossil to have ever been found on American (USA) soil is of European decent:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iq-kC-lJWw]The First Americans - Part 1 - Kennewick Man - YouTube[/ame]

Whatever the case ... if I move out of my house and someone else moves in it might be considered wrong of me to abruptly return to my old house and kick the new inhabitants out by force. Just some more food for thought.

 

[Geaux4it]

I would of liked to of kicked Kerry's ass before he became protected

-Geaux

 

[Hossfly]

I would of liked to of kicked Kerry's ass before he became protected

-Geaux

I like your attitude! My sentiments exactly.

 

[Phoenall]

How come this wasn't an issue during the Camp David or Taba negotiations?

How come Olmert didn't demand this with his plan?

Why didn't Arafat demand the removal of all Jews from the proposed apartheid state of Palestine then. Why is abbas now demanding this move if not to halt the peace process ?

 

[Phoenall]

IS there a reason that Israel thinks only Jews live there????

The Irish Republic has lots of non-Irish people.

Nothing bigoted about still calling it the "Irish Republic".

Nothing bigoted about calling it the Jewish State.

The issue, is this suddenly becoming a make or break issue.

So the new issue from the Palestinians is not in the same league, that no non muslims will be allowed to LIVE in Palestine ?

 

[Phoenall]

This isn't about Palestine being "Jew-free".

This is about drawing a line in the sand and saying "no, we will not give legitimacy to the illegal settlements".

No doubt Palestine will allow Jews to move there, after they become a state.

So the other line in the sand that says NO JEWS is O.K. but the simple matter of agreeing to Israel being a Jewish State isn't.
No doubt Jews will be murdered for coming too close to Palestine and then defiled after death, it is the Palestinian way.

 

[Phoenall]

This isn't about Palestine being "Jew-free".

This is about drawing a line in the sand and saying "no, we will not give legitimacy to the illegal settlements".

No doubt Palestine will allow Jews to move there, after they become a state.

Sorry, but that is not what Abbas said . Try to read He wants a Jew free/ Israeli Free Palestine . Israel will never go back to the 67 Borders that they never recognized in the first place

It is once again giving legitimacy to an Islamic land grab and removing the rights of the Jews to live in peace on their own land. This is in response to the right of return demands that abbas knows are dead ducks. Much easier for Israel to go to the ICJ and press for the International Laws that gave them the whole of Palestine originally. Let the arab hostiles fight that and the ensueing evacuation

 

[Phoenall]

No Jews with Israeli citizenship however

Wrong. Any Jew who wants to, but after Palestine is established.

NO CHILD the law is very clear on this, NO JEWS WHATSOEVER WILL BE ALLOWED TO LIVE IN PALESTINE. Read in in the charter and in the demands made by abbas , but the moron still thinks that he will get his right of return. No Jews in Palestine = No muslims in Israel, and an iron grip on the borders to enforce the rule

 

[Phoenall]

The Irish Republic has lots of non-Irish people.

Nothing bigoted about still calling it the "Irish Republic".

Nothing bigoted about calling it the Jewish State.

The issue, is this suddenly becoming a make or break issue.

It's always been the issue, dipstick. You just can't keep up. They either refuse to amend their charter that calls for the total destruction of Israel, or they refuse to accept it as a Jewish state.

End of the day who gives a crap, really? Palestinians will continue to never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity (until there will be no opportunities to miss) and Israel will continue to prosper and get stronger and eventually annex the land in question as part of Israel. Finito.

Now repeat after me, Israel Akbar!

the PLO charter was amended.

When was the PLO charter amended, and who were the PLO members who ratified it. Read the PLO history and find were the charter was actually amended correctly and with the required quorum of representatives. Then come back here and apologise for being suckered by the ISLAMONAZI LIARS

 

[Phoenall]

Big differences though. The Palestinians are not natives. They are recent 20th century invaders.

British research shows this to be false.

As does the natural growth rates for Israeli Arabs.

British records show this to be a fact, as do recent figures that show the only way the arab population could have grown so fast would be through illegal immigration or by every female over the age of 14 having multiple births every 9 months. Take all factors into account and you see that the survival rate prior to 1968 was one of the worst in the world.
Natural growth is set at a population increase of around 0.5% not 3.5% as is the norm for Palestinians.

THis shows how in ten years the Palestinians doubled in size, then doubled again in the next 20 years. An impossible feat without illegal migration.