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I provide links to prove my point but you keep marching on with Israel's lies like a good little boy.OK, so?P F Tinmore, et al,
Ah, tricky - tricky. You changed the context from a "Zoinist" invasion of Palestine, to an Allied Invasion of the Ottoman Empire.
(COMMENT)There was, but not in the classical sense. Britain was the occupying power in Palestine from 1917 until the Treaty of Lausenne. Then Britain changed the name, but not the status, from occupier to Mandate. There was no visible invasion as Britain already had military control of the territory.There was no invading army into enemy territory to pillage and plunder.
The Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA) was a Joint British and French Military Administration which was the first of the occupation phases established with headquarters in Jerusalem at the end of 1917
until the Civil Administration; with the surrender and demilitarization of all OttomanEmpire/Turkish Republic garrisons in Hejaz, Assir, Yemen, Syria, and Mesopotamia to the nearest Allied commander. (Clause #16 Mudros Armistice) The OETA remained as the principle administration until the decisions made by the Supreme Council of the Allied Powers at San Remo on the 25th April, 1920. Shortly afterwards, on the 1st July, 1920, the OETA regime was replaced by a civil administration under a High Commission. (The Treaty of Lausanne ) The northern frontier of Palestine was determined in accordance with an Anglo-French Convention of the 23rd December, 1920, and its eastern frontier by virtue of the recognition, in 1923, of the existence of an independent Government in Transjordan (Article 25 of the 1922 Mandate).
Palestine was an undefined territory and not a Political Subdivision within the Ottoman Empire. Palestine was not invaded as a political sovereignty, but as a military engagement and movement to contact in pursuit of retreating Ottoman Empire/Turkish Forces. Allied Forces where required to move forward and replace Ottoman Empire/Turkish Forces that surrendered to the closest Allied Command pursuant to Clause 16 of the Mudros Armistice.
Again, it was the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic that was invaded and not the undefined territory under the regional name of "Palestine."
The Lausanne Treaty was signed on 24 July 1923 by the Allied Powers and Turkey; and went into force on 6 August 1924, on officially deposited in Paris. Great Britain was the last of the Principle Allied Powers to ratify the treaty on 16 July 1924.
(COMMENT)When Britain changed from occupier to Mandate in Transjordan, it withdrew is forces leaving a handful of advisors behind. That was in line with the LoN Covenant.
Jordan went through a series of steps.
In May 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah. From that time forward, there had been a continuous prsence in Jordan of British Military Advisors until well after the 1949 Armistices; and even beyond..
This is not accurate at all. Even after the Treaty of Alliance (1946) His Majesty The King (UK) recognised Trans-Jordan as a fully independent State and His Highness The Amir as the sovereign thereof. A further treaty with Britain was executed in March 1948, under which all restrictions on sovereignty were removed, although limited British base and transit rights in Transjordan continued, as did the British subsidy that paid for the Arab Legion.
I don't have the capacity for clairvoyance. But I would venture to say that the the Arab League left enough bread crumbs that even a blind man could determine that the Arabs would initiate a conflict should the Jewish National Home declare independence..
(COMMENT)When Britain changed from occupier to Mandate in Palestine it maintained its military force. This was evidence that they planned on pulling some shit that was affirmed by their actions over the next thirty years.
Well, that is a stretch. Again, I'm not clairvoyant. In 1942, the Jewish Agency came under increased pressure for stealing arms and ammunition from the British forces in the Middle East.
What 30 year period are we discussing?
(COMMENT)Over those thirty years, Britain allowed the Zionists to build their military. At the same time the British kept the Palestinians disarmed while arresting, exiling or killing their leadership.
There was an arms embargo. What is this --- more whining?
(COMMENT)When the Zionists attacked Palestine before the 1948 war there was no apparent invasion because their military was already in house.
The greater the intensity of attacks by the Hostile Arab Palestinians, the more likely there will be an adverse response by the Jewish Community. Especially after WWII, there was a growing number of Holocaust Survivors as well as the Survivors of the purges, expulsions, forced displacements, imprisonment in labor camps, and so many atrocities ---
The Algemeiner March 2011 said:Following the Holocaust, two phrases stand out above all others as concrete universal Jewish resolutions. The first, "Zachor" (to remember), is to ensure that the past will never be forgotten and its memory will serve as a guide for the future. The second, "Never Again," is not limited to the horrors of a particular time or place, nor by extent or methods, but rather it symbolizes the Jewish People's collective resolve to never stand by the blood of ther brethren and to never allow innocents to be brutalized for the crime of being Jewish. SOURCE: "Never Again" Is Not Just a Slogan
Most Respectfully,
R
How does that relate to or change my post?
It shows it to be your usual pack of islamonazi lies and propagandaThat's more excuses for Islamist ineptitude and incompetence.More BS Israeli talking points.Palestine?Yet, being Of the jewish faith is the only criteria for being granted citizenship of the israeli entity currently occupying Palestine
As an autonomous state...
Doesn't exist...
Never has...
Never will...
The denizen-losers (Muslim-Arabs) of the two postage-stamp -sized slices of land that comprise Rump Palestine need to relocate.
They're in-the-way, and time is running out.
They'd be better off purchasing a slice of the Egyptian desert and trying to make a go of it there.
There's nothing for them - and absolutely no future - where they are now.
Take your families out of there now, while you still can.
Leave.
Live.
The rights of a people do not require statehood.
The Israelis chose to exercise their right of self determination within the context of establishing an independent state. Arabs-Moslems could not muster the ability to do so and have instead chosen to scratch out a comfortable existence begging at the hand of a dedicated UN welfare agency.The Israelis chose to exercise their right of self determination...
Did they have the right to self determination in Palestine?
Link?
Yes they did under the LoN Mandate of palestine and the UN charter along with many international laws of the time.
Why should we give you a link when you refuse to produce any links to support your thousands of claims ?