Boise man sued over the city's loitering law after arrest. Guess who won?

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This one stunned me, here in Idaho.
The police saw a car parked in a 24 hour car wash bay..no one washing the car.
They arrested the guy for loitering..and a K-9 found drugs in his car when they searched it.
Turns out the city's ordinance is broadly worded, and the Judges think that it gives the police too much discretion in who they target.
So, the dude not only beats his drug charge, meth, good for 10 years--but he is going to get paid civilly..by the city..and maybe by the officers, as well!
What say the jury?



When Boise officers one night saw a man sitting in his Jeep Cherokee in a self-service bay of a 24-hour car wash, they decided to investigate the vehicle. Within minutes of pulling into the West Boise business, one of the officers drew his firearm, and the man was detained for loitering, and a drug dog was called to search his vehicle, according to court records.

The K-9 detected drugs, records showed. Police discovered methamphetamine and marijuana in the Luke Schuchardt's vehicle, and he was charged with a felony.

But how could they know Schuchardt was violating the law? They couldn't, U.S. District Judge B. Lynn Winmill ruled in an order this week.

In a lawsuit Schuchardt filed against the city, arguing that police violated his First and Fourth Amendment rights that day, Windmill sided with Schuchardt and deemed that the city's loitering ordinance is "unconstitutionally vague." While Schuchardt was likely at Snake River Car Wash in March 2022 to deal drugs, Winmill wrote, the responding officers, Ryan Pollard and Craig Sousa, didn't know he had drugs on him until they detained him for loitering. Before then, all the officers knew was that Schuchardt was parked in a dark car wash, not washing his car.

His attorneys accused the responding officers of using the city's loitering ordinance to gain access to Schuchardt's vehicle and conduct an "unlawful" search. Officers have a "practice or custom" of using the loitering ordinance to conduct drug investigations without reasonable evidence, his attorneys asserted in their filings.

Winmill will still have to take up several other allegations against the city and individual officers, since Monday's decision only settled one of the three remaining claims filed in the lawsuit. But Pete Wood, one of Schuchardt's attorneys, told the Idaho Statesman this ruling is "the big one."

Loitering laws are often used as general warrants, Wood said, allowing officers to circumvent individuals' constitutional right to be protected from unreasonable searches and seizures. It gives officers unlimited discretion, Wood said.

"In theory, everyone's loitering," he told the Statesman.

Michael Reardon, the judge who presided over Schuchardt's criminal case, also concluded that the officers' search of his vehicle was unlawful and suppressed all of the evidence collected by police, including the suspected drugs. Reardon went even further in his July 2022 order to suppress the evidence, calling the officers' conduct "flagrant."

All criminal charges against Schuchardt were dismissed.
 
This one stunned me, here in Idaho.
The police saw a car parked in a 24 hour car wash bay..no one washing the car.
They arrested the guy for loitering..and a K-9 found drugs in his car when they searched it.
Turns out the city's ordinance is broadly worded, and the Judges think that it gives the police too much discretion in who they target.
So, the dude not only beats his drug charge, meth, good for 10 years--but he is going to get paid civilly..by the city..and maybe by the officers, as well!
What say the jury?



When Boise officers one night saw a man sitting in his Jeep Cherokee in a self-service bay of a 24-hour car wash, they decided to investigate the vehicle. Within minutes of pulling into the West Boise business, one of the officers drew his firearm, and the man was detained for loitering, and a drug dog was called to search his vehicle, according to court records.

The K-9 detected drugs, records showed. Police discovered methamphetamine and marijuana in the Luke Schuchardt's vehicle, and he was charged with a felony.


But how could they know Schuchardt was violating the law? They couldn't, U.S. District Judge B. Lynn Winmill ruled in an order this week.

In a lawsuit Schuchardt filed against the city, arguing that police violated his First and Fourth Amendment rights that day, Windmill sided with Schuchardt and deemed that the city's loitering ordinance is "unconstitutionally vague." While Schuchardt was likely at Snake River Car Wash in March 2022 to deal drugs, Winmill wrote, the responding officers, Ryan Pollard and Craig Sousa, didn't know he had drugs on him until they detained him for loitering. Before then, all the officers knew was that Schuchardt was parked in a dark car wash, not washing his car.

His attorneys accused the responding officers of using the city's loitering ordinance to gain access to Schuchardt's vehicle and conduct an "unlawful" search. Officers have a "practice or custom" of using the loitering ordinance to conduct drug investigations without reasonable evidence, his attorneys asserted in their filings.

Winmill will still have to take up several other allegations against the city and individual officers, since Monday's decision only settled one of the three remaining claims filed in the lawsuit. But Pete Wood, one of Schuchardt's attorneys, told the Idaho Statesman this ruling is "the big one."

Loitering laws are often used as general warrants, Wood said, allowing officers to circumvent individuals' constitutional right to be protected from unreasonable searches and seizures. It gives officers unlimited discretion, Wood said.


"In theory, everyone's loitering," he told the Statesman.

Michael Reardon, the judge who presided over Schuchardt's criminal case, also concluded that the officers' search of his vehicle was unlawful and suppressed all of the evidence collected by police, including the suspected drugs. Reardon went even further in his July 2022 order to suppress the evidence, calling the officers' conduct "flagrant."


All criminal charges against Schuchardt were dismissed.
I say they need to write their laws a bit more carefully.
 
But how could they know Schuchardt was violating the law? They couldn't, U.S. District Judge B. Lynn Winmill ruled in an order this week.

This is exactly the problem with our justice system. They knew he was violating the law because they are experienced cops and their gut told them something was off. They were correct. The idea that they somehow could not have known is a bullshit reason to drop all charges and it’s a bastardization of our Fourth Amendment protections.

I keep telling people they need to stop worrying so much about who is in the White House and start paying more attention to who is in their local offices. It’s the judges and the prosecutors that are ruining our cities more than the legislative politicians.
 
Turns out the city's ordinance is broadly worded, and the Judges think that it gives the police too much discretion in who they target.

Thing is:
  1. It is the judge's job to carry out the law as written, not interpret its intent then compensate for its perceived flaws.
  2. If the ordinance is broadly worded, then wouldn't that EXPAND the police's discretion rather than narrow it?
Bottom line: The police were within the law and their rights to arrest the guy. The judge let him loose because he just didn't like it.
 
This one stunned me, here in Idaho.
The police saw a car parked in a 24 hour car wash bay..no one washing the car.
They arrested the guy for loitering..and a K-9 found drugs in his car when they searched it.
Turns out the city's ordinance is broadly worded, and the Judges think that it gives the police too much discretion in who they target.
So, the dude not only beats his drug charge, meth, good for 10 years--but he is going to get paid civilly..by the city..and maybe by the officers, as well!
What say the jury?



When Boise officers one night saw a man sitting in his Jeep Cherokee in a self-service bay of a 24-hour car wash, they decided to investigate the vehicle. Within minutes of pulling into the West Boise business, one of the officers drew his firearm, and the man was detained for loitering, and a drug dog was called to search his vehicle, according to court records.

The K-9 detected drugs, records showed. Police discovered methamphetamine and marijuana in the Luke Schuchardt's vehicle, and he was charged with a felony.


But how could they know Schuchardt was violating the law? They couldn't, U.S. District Judge B. Lynn Winmill ruled in an order this week.

In a lawsuit Schuchardt filed against the city, arguing that police violated his First and Fourth Amendment rights that day, Windmill sided with Schuchardt and deemed that the city's loitering ordinance is "unconstitutionally vague." While Schuchardt was likely at Snake River Car Wash in March 2022 to deal drugs, Winmill wrote, the responding officers, Ryan Pollard and Craig Sousa, didn't know he had drugs on him until they detained him for loitering. Before then, all the officers knew was that Schuchardt was parked in a dark car wash, not washing his car.

His attorneys accused the responding officers of using the city's loitering ordinance to gain access to Schuchardt's vehicle and conduct an "unlawful" search. Officers have a "practice or custom" of using the loitering ordinance to conduct drug investigations without reasonable evidence, his attorneys asserted in their filings.

Winmill will still have to take up several other allegations against the city and individual officers, since Monday's decision only settled one of the three remaining claims filed in the lawsuit. But Pete Wood, one of Schuchardt's attorneys, told the Idaho Statesman this ruling is "the big one."

Loitering laws are often used as general warrants, Wood said, allowing officers to circumvent individuals' constitutional right to be protected from unreasonable searches and seizures. It gives officers unlimited discretion, Wood said.


"In theory, everyone's loitering," he told the Statesman.

Michael Reardon, the judge who presided over Schuchardt's criminal case, also concluded that the officers' search of his vehicle was unlawful and suppressed all of the evidence collected by police, including the suspected drugs. Reardon went even further in his July 2022 order to suppress the evidence, calling the officers' conduct "flagrant."


All criminal charges against Schuchardt were dismissed.

Once again the cops are caught in a lie.
 
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