Federal Judge Allows Trump to Deploy National Guard to Chicago After Agents Attacked

[Lisa558]

It is undoubtedly the fringe margin of that party. The unhinged, non-thinking, radical fringe of both parties, truly suck.

Not the fringe on the Democrat side. Both the mayor of Chicago and the governor of Illinois are fighting to keep crime and criminals out of control. Not a good look.

 

[Blaster]

It is undoubtedly the fringe margin of that party. The unhinged, non-thinking, radical fringe of both parties, truly suck.

Mainly the Democrat party is the problem.

 

[WEATHER53]

But but but now a girlie says the National Guard cannot guard a part of the Nation

 

[kyzr]

I doubt the preacher shot in the head with pepperballs from rooftop positions, will see jail time, and should not.
As for Marimar Martinez, shot 5 times by ICE agent after ramming her car, jumping out and shouting "Do something *****!", while early reporting said she point a weapon, body cam said different, she was not charged with any weapons related violation, and after hospital treatment for her injuries, has already been released by ICE.

As for how "we" the whole country may pay for protesters crossing the line to violence, it could lead to more prevalent occupation by Federal Troops under the Trump regime, across the cities of America, starting with cities with Democrat mayors, particularly if in states with Democrat Governors, then branching to all major cities, signalling the end to separation of Fed and State, and starting a more Russia-like control of the population, at gunpoint, possibly by masked agents, masked more to protect from camera identification, witnessing possible atrocities, that could be used in court, if there were still a semblance of a legal system, as we know it. I figure, Trump wants to bring this to a head, before the Mid-Term elections, in order to stop or control them, ending the Republic form of governance, in place here since the birth of this nation.

At this point, being of many generations American citizen lineage, I simply wish to avoid areas, where ICE activities are taking place, in order to not be caught up, vulnerable in standstill traffic, just as I would like to avoid any areas of protest with potential for violence (civilian or governmental), whether immigration enforcement related or any other civil unrest. While this is not hard here in relatively peaceful Jackson, TN, it might not be possible in Memphis or even Nashville. I would love to use and app like IceBlock for this purpose, it is no longer available, and I did not think to download and activate while it was available. I do have WAZE on our Iphones and hope it would alert in some way, to avoid my turning down the wrong street, at the wrong time.

Okay, thanks for the 'mansplain. You are worried that Trump will use the urban crime and the violent antifa protests as a pretext for a Federal takeover of blue states and have a powerful central government like in Russia, before the mid-terms. Never happen. State governments and elections are sacrosanct. Trump is winning voters. My "proof" is the black women wearing MAGA hats in support of the clamp down on crime in their cities.

As a "law and order" Republican I don't see it that way, the Federal government isn't interested in a takeover of states or elections, that is ridiculous, he just wants the restoration of "Law and Order" in high crime areas.
I see lawless democrat run cities and states with Soros DAs not prosecuting crime as a direct threat to the rule of LAW.
Violent criminals belong in prison, not out doing murders like Iryna getting stabbed on that train by a repeat offender.
I see flash mobs ruining business districts, I see pharmacies and food stores closing causing "urban deserts".
I want Home Rule ended in DC. That was a colossal failure. I put up Marion Barry as proof.

A quick correction to your post, Trump is not starting with just cities with democrat mayors, Memphis was a high crime city in a Republican area that is being restored to the rule of law, St. Louis and New Orleans will follow.

Back to the original question of "who pays" for the uptick in violent protests? IMHO, just the violent protesters and criminals.
Law abiding citizens can just enjoy the reduction in crime like in DC.

Bowser says violent crime in DC down 45%, urges less focus on immigration enforcement

Bowser says violent crime in DC down 45%​

Overall, there's been a 38% drop in homicides, an 87% drop in carjackings and a 62% drop in robberies. These figures come as arrests in D.C. this month have topped 1,500, which is up 20% from this time in 2024.

 

[White 6]

Mainly the Democrat party is the problem.

Nobody has any problem, with peaceful protesting of what they do not approve of, for whatever reason, especially involving federalization of the National Guard to active duty, as eye candy for the right, or even the assholes that wish to peacefully protest the immigration crackdown, for whatever reason (sane or insane political). Violent protest is different. Local authorities and state authorities, should be putting enough show of force on the streets to keep that completely tamped down, even if necessary calling up their own National Guard Units as crowd control, under state command and control, before the Trump activates them for his own ends. Not utilizing this manpower asset to control potential or active organized violence, is a big mistake of the Democrat Governors, and a repetitive mistake made, ever since the Floyd murder riots.

 

[Blaster]

Nobody has any problem, with peaceful protesting of what they do not approve of, for whatever reason, especially involving federalization of the National Guard to active duty, as eye candy for the right, or even the assholes that wish to peacefully protest the immigration crackdown, for whatever reason (sane or insane political). Violent protest is different. Local authorities and state authorities, should be putting enough show of force on the streets to keep that completely tamped down, even if necessary calling up their own National Guard Units as crowd control, under state command and control, before the Trump activates them for his own ends. Not utilizing this manpower asset to control potential or active organized violence, is a big mistake of the Democrat Governors, and a repetitive mistake made, ever since the Floyd murder riots.

The fact is that the protests aren't peaceful.

 

[White 6]

The fact is that the protests aren't peaceful.

Wrong. The vast majority of the time, they are, in fact, peaceful, and protest has always been part and parcel to government policy or activity. Peaceful protest is protected speech, guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.

 

[Blaster]

Wrong. The vast majority of the time, they are, in fact, peaceful, and protest has always been part and parcel to government policy or activity. Peaceful protest is protected speech, guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.

The anti ICE protests are not peaceful.

 

[Lisa558]

Nobody has any problem, with peaceful protesting of what they do not approve of, for whatever reason, especially involving federalization of the National Guard to active duty, as eye candy for the right, or even the assholes that wish to peacefully protest the immigration crackdown, for whatever reason (sane or insane political). Violent protest is different. Local authorities and state authorities, should be putting enough show of force on the streets to keep that completely tamped down, even if necessary calling up their own National Guard Units as crowd control, under state command and control, before the Trump activates them for his own ends. Not utilizing this manpower asset to control potential or active organized violence, is a big mistake of the Democrat Governors, and a repetitive mistake made, ever since the Floyd murder riots.

The question then becomes…..why are the Democrats so reluctant to use this manpower to fight back against organized violence? Why are they kowtowing to criminals?

 

[Blaster]

The question then becomes…..why are the Democrats so reluctant to use this manpower to fight back against organized violence? Why are they kowtowing to criminals?

Democrats are the number one enemy of democracy.

 

[White 6]

The anti ICE protests are not peaceful.

Again, most actually are, and are daily, wherever the raids are ongoing. Arrests at protests are very few, as actual violent attack is an exception, not the rule of most protestors. It isn't like any of these cities are like the war zone eruptions back in the George Floyd protest days, and even the majority of those across the country as a whole, were mainly peaceful. Of course, the asshholes came out, at night.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The real scandal in this Homan story is that Democratic and "not Democratic" operatives in the FBI tried to entrap a civilian that they believed would get a senior position in a new Republican administration when and if their own Party's candidate was defeated.

I question the use of that kind of "sting" in any situation. Investigator should be arresting people for crimes that they commit because they are criminals. They should not be trying to manufacture crimes by inducing innocent people to take action that could be seen as criminal.

But being done for purely political reasons against politically targeted subjects makes it even more corrupt. Leaking to the media with no evidence that Homan ever took any money from anyone should be criminal, if it isn't.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Nobody has any problem, with peaceful protesting of what they do not approve of, for whatever reason, especially involving federalization of the National Guard to active duty

I disagree that it's "federalization" of the National Guard. The way I see it, Trump was just sending the national guards to the ICE agents as reinforcements. To protect them and make sure they remain safe as they carry out their duty, since Democratic mayors..etc actively try to harm them.

 

[White 6]

The question then becomes…..why are the Democrats so reluctant to use this manpower to fight back against organized violence? Why are they kowtowing to criminals?

Beats me. Misguided politics, in my opinion. Years ago, I was sent to Memphis as part of the force to maintain order, protect infrastructure and enforce curfew, the mission jointly requested and ordered by a Democrat Governor, at request of the Democrat Mayor. This was just a few years after Kent State. The presence of 1500 troops stationed, patrolling, and including a fully armed, locked and loaded response force, did maintain the peace. Nobody, back then trusted what The Guard might do, so they settled down and mostly did not challenge or quickly disappeared quietly into the night, ceasing fire, when a platoon of gun jeeps with loaded M-60s showed up.

 

[Thinker101]

This has already been ruled on when the military was used to enforce school integration. Democrats are stalling trying to keep as many illegals in the country as possible to be counted in the 2030 census

Trump is just trying to make it easier for them. If successful, they can count the illegals on one hand.

 

[MayorQuimby]

The real scandal in this Homan story is that Democratic and "not Democratic" operatives in the FBI tried to entrap a civilian that they believed would get a senior position in a new Republican administration when and if their own Party's candidate was defeated.

I question the use of that kind of "sting" in any situation. Investigator should be arresting people for crimes that they commit because they are criminals. They should not be trying to manufacture crimes by inducing innocent people to take action that could be seen as criminal.

But being done for purely political reasons against politically targeted subjects makes it even more corrupt. Leaking to the media with no evidence that Homan ever took any money from anyone should be criminal, if it isn't.

Dude, a thousand times yes and a thousand agreements.

I was literally the victim of entrapment by my country's feds, or as they euphemistically call it, a sting operation, so as to quiet their conscience. I have never ever committed any crimes, all I did was make really outrageous political statements online. The intelligence communities of all Western countries, they all do it. They learn from the same Masters. They also exchange notes with one another to hone and refine their entrapping craft.

 

[drudge X]

Again, most actually are, and are daily, wherever the raids are ongoing. Arrests at protests are very few, as actual violent attack is an exception, not the rule of most protestors. It isn't like any of these cities are like the war zone eruptions back in the George Floyd protest days, and even the majority of those across the country as a whole, were mainly peaceful. Of course, the asshholes came out, at night.

I wouldn't call the protest in the name of St. Floyd peaceful when 200 cities were burning.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Omg, we should totally get together and plan about this 3rd party! Finally the two-party system is showing signs of cracks and we should seize upon this opportunity.

On topic: When people not only interfere when federal officials are carrying out their duty, they literally try to endanger their (the officials') lives, what kind of crime is this? I bet it's something really, really serious.

A viable third party is exactly what this country needs. It can’t be mandated. It has to evolve and gain strength on its own. I think most people who vote Republican would welcome a third Party while Democrats across the board would hate to see a third party.

My ideal third party would be largely Centrist. It would be socially liberal while fiscally conservative and small government on both social and economic issues. This Party would be diverse and void of identity politics.

 

[MayorQuimby]

A viable third party is exactly what this country needs. It can’t be mandated. It has to evolve and gain strength on its own. I think most people who vote Republican would welcome a third Party while Democrats across the board would hate to see a third party.

My ideal third party would be largely Centrist. It would be socially liberal while fiscally conservative and small government on both social and economic issues. This Party would be diverse and void of identity politics.

I totally agree that a properly drawn up third party that brings real change, would take votes away from the Republicans. And yes, I am absolutely working on this myself. Bonus if others also wish to join and help me.

Although my party would be socially conservative. I am sick of all this "socially liberal" talk. I am sick of anything Left-related. There is nothing wrong with being "xenophobic", "close-minded", "insular"..etc etc. I believe that a proper nation should have a common language, a common culture that unifies her people, a shared lineage (aka blood). A healthy country should have all of these things.

 

[White 6]

I disagree that it's "federalization" of the National Guard. The way I see it, Trump was just sending the national guards to the ICE agents as reinforcements. To protect them and make sure they remain safe as they carry out their duty, since Democratic mayors..etc actively try to harm them.

It is Title 10 orders. Obviously Federal Activation with Federal Title 10 orders.
No Democratic Mayors are actively tying to harm them, no organized rebellion taking place, certainly not at a Mayor's office level. No cities burning, no mass armed resistance. Try watching local news outlets from those cities, instead of the FOX cherry picked government news feeds.