Bleeding Hearts Moan Over Bombing Iraqi Citizens

[davecmarino]

Too funny. You have to really stretch the truth to suit you purposes.

Al-Qaeda existed before the Iraq war and you guys sworn up and down that there were not in bed with Saddam.
Now you want to tell us that they only entered Iraq and had enough influence there to be the main belligerents in the Iraq war.

They were not. The Baathist and Iraqi Nationalist were the main opposition.

Get your shit straight already you lying ******* dumbass.

Iraqi insurgency (2003–11) - Wikipedia



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Now this is too funny... from your own link...

In response to a law allowing for the partitioning of Iraq into autonomous regions, members of the Mutayibeen Coalition (Khalf al-Mutayibeen[97]), a coalition of Sunni insurgent groups including Al Qaeda in Iraq, announced the creation of the Islamic State of Iraq encompassing parts of 6 of Iraq's 18 provinces on October 15, 2006​

They were defeated. On 13 October 2006, the MSC declared the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), comprising Iraq's six mostly Sunni Arab governorates: Baghdad, Anbar, Diyala, Kirkuk, Salah al-Din, Ninawa, and "other parts of the governorate of Babel", with Abu Omar al-Baghdadi being announced as the self-proclaimed state's Emir.

Multiple groups were claiming the same shit but were all defeated.


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"They were defeated."

Imbecile... if they were defeated, how'd they become known as ISI?

You're allergic to thinking, ain'tcha?

All the land they claimed remained a part of Iraq at the end of the war. They were hiding in Syria when Obama claimed victory in Iraq.

You just can't deal with reality. I post outside sources and you just spout off liberal propaganda.


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You have no idea what you're talking about.

They were still fighting until 2007 when Bush paid them to stop. They've accepted that offer. When the war was winding down as a result of that and the surge, Bush signed an agreement with Iraq to pull all of our troops out the end of 2011. It was that agreement, which Obama honored, which resulted in our troops being pulled out.

More revisionist bullshit. A status of forces agreement is meant to be renegotiated and Obama just didn't want to. He wanted his fake win. Show us proof that Bush paid Al-Qaeda. More lib horseshit.


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[davecmarino]

Keep lying and sucking dumbfuck. It's all you are good for.


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Unlike you, I'm a married heterosexual. So's my wife. Ironically, the one who can't stop thinking of sucking is you.

The only ones not sucking are me and your wife.


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And yet, the only one who can't stop thinking about it is you.

Post your sources not your opinion from drinking the lib kool-aid. Don't blame me for the bad taste left in your mouth.


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Dumbfuck.... what taste? I'm using YOUR links to prove you wrong.

You haven't proven shit. You can keep cherry picking and twisting reality but it isn't proof. I am the one posting sources that prove you are full of shit.


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[Faun]

Now this is too funny... from your own link...

In response to a law allowing for the partitioning of Iraq into autonomous regions, members of the Mutayibeen Coalition (Khalf al-Mutayibeen[97]), a coalition of Sunni insurgent groups including Al Qaeda in Iraq, announced the creation of the Islamic State of Iraq encompassing parts of 6 of Iraq's 18 provinces on October 15, 2006​

They were defeated. On 13 October 2006, the MSC declared the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), comprising Iraq's six mostly Sunni Arab governorates: Baghdad, Anbar, Diyala, Kirkuk, Salah al-Din, Ninawa, and "other parts of the governorate of Babel", with Abu Omar al-Baghdadi being announced as the self-proclaimed state's Emir.

Multiple groups were claiming the same shit but were all defeated.


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"They were defeated."

Imbecile... if they were defeated, how'd they become known as ISI?

You're allergic to thinking, ain'tcha?

All the land they claimed remained a part of Iraq at the end of the war. They were hiding in Syria when Obama claimed victory in Iraq.

You just can't deal with reality. I post outside sources and you just spout off liberal propaganda.


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You have no idea what you're talking about.

They were still fighting until 2007 when Bush paid them to stop. They've accepted that offer. When the war was winding down as a result of that and the surge, Bush signed an agreement with Iraq to pull all of our troops out the end of 2011. It was that agreement, which Obama honored, which resulted in our troops being pulled out.

More revisionist bullshit. A status of forces agreement is meant to be renegotiated and Obama just didn't want to. He wanted his fake win. Show us proof that Bush paid Al-Qaeda. More lib horseshit.


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Then why didn't Bush negotiate one with the agreement he signed?

 

[davecmarino]

Too funny. You have to really stretch the truth to suit you purposes.

Al-Qaeda existed before the Iraq war and you guys sworn up and down that there were not in bed with Saddam.
Now you want to tell us that they only entered Iraq and had enough influence there to be the main belligerents in the Iraq war.

They were not. The Baathist and Iraqi Nationalist were the main opposition.

Get your shit straight already you lying ******* dumbass.

Iraqi insurgency (2003–11) - Wikipedia



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Now this is too funny... from your own link...

In response to a law allowing for the partitioning of Iraq into autonomous regions, members of the Mutayibeen Coalition (Khalf al-Mutayibeen[97]), a coalition of Sunni insurgent groups including Al Qaeda in Iraq, announced the creation of the Islamic State of Iraq encompassing parts of 6 of Iraq's 18 provinces on October 15, 2006​

They were defeated. On 13 October 2006, the MSC declared the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), comprising Iraq's six mostly Sunni Arab governorates: Baghdad, Anbar, Diyala, Kirkuk, Salah al-Din, Ninawa, and "other parts of the governorate of Babel", with Abu Omar al-Baghdadi being announced as the self-proclaimed state's Emir.

Multiple groups were claiming the same shit but were all defeated.


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"They were defeated."

Imbecile... if they were defeated, how'd they become known as ISI?

You're allergic to thinking, ain'tcha?

All the land they claimed remained a part of Iraq at the end of the war. They were hiding in Syria when Obama claimed victory in Iraq.

You just can't deal with reality. I post outside sources and you just spout off liberal propaganda.


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LOLOL

Your own sources have confirmed everything I said.

In response to a law allowing for the partitioning of Iraq into autonomous regions, members of the Mutayibeen Coalition (Khalf al-Mutayibeen[97]), a coalition of Sunni insurgent groups including Al Qaeda in Iraq, announced the creation of the Islamic State of Iraq encompassing parts of 6 of Iraq's 18 provinces on October 15, 2006​

They named the territory and never held it uncontested like they did under Obama. They also didn't change their name until under Obama.

It was just an idea in 2006 that they were fighting for. It wasn't a reality.


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[Faun]

Now this is too funny... from your own link...

In response to a law allowing for the partitioning of Iraq into autonomous regions, members of the Mutayibeen Coalition (Khalf al-Mutayibeen[97]), a coalition of Sunni insurgent groups including Al Qaeda in Iraq, announced the creation of the Islamic State of Iraq encompassing parts of 6 of Iraq's 18 provinces on October 15, 2006​

They were defeated. On 13 October 2006, the MSC declared the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), comprising Iraq's six mostly Sunni Arab governorates: Baghdad, Anbar, Diyala, Kirkuk, Salah al-Din, Ninawa, and "other parts of the governorate of Babel", with Abu Omar al-Baghdadi being announced as the self-proclaimed state's Emir.

Multiple groups were claiming the same shit but were all defeated.


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"They were defeated."

Imbecile... if they were defeated, how'd they become known as ISI?

You're allergic to thinking, ain'tcha?

All the land they claimed remained a part of Iraq at the end of the war. They were hiding in Syria when Obama claimed victory in Iraq.

You just can't deal with reality. I post outside sources and you just spout off liberal propaganda.


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You have no idea what you're talking about.

They were still fighting until 2007 when Bush paid them to stop. They've accepted that offer. When the war was winding down as a result of that and the surge, Bush signed an agreement with Iraq to pull all of our troops out the end of 2011. It was that agreement, which Obama honored, which resulted in our troops being pulled out.

More revisionist bullshit. A status of forces agreement is meant to be renegotiated and Obama just didn't want to. He wanted his fake win. Show us proof that Bush paid Al-Qaeda. More lib horseshit.


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Dumbfuck.... Your link said Bush paid them.

Don'tcha think it would be wise for you to start reading your own sources?

 

[davecmarino]

There isn't a difference. More bending of the truth to suit your story. You are a delusional person.


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LOLOL

That you don't know the difference only serves to highlight your ignorance.

Moron, Al-Qaeda in Iraq started as a terrorist group which went into Iraq after we invaded and then devoted themselves to Al-Qaeda. They weren't part of Al-Qaeda prior to that. In 2006, they changed their name again to ISI (ISIL, before appending Syria).

You might actually be the dumbest **** on this forum to not know any of this.

Keep making shit up. They were pledged to Osama from the start. That is why they were known as Al Qaeda.

You are living in a make believe alternate reality.
The delusions are strong in you.

al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) | militant group




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Dumbfuck, do you even bother to read your own links? Your own link doesn't say that...

Al-Qaeda in Iraq first appeared in 2004 when Abū Muṣʿab al-Zarqāwī, a Jordanian-born militant already leading insurgent attacks in Iraq, formed an alliance with al-Qaeda, pledging his group’s allegiance to Osama bin Laden in return for bin Laden’s endorsement as the leader of al-Qaeda’s franchise in Iraq.​

Moron.... how does a militant group "already leading insurgent attacks" when they aligned with Al-Qaeda, "pledge to Osama from the start??"

On top of all your other maladies, lacking common sense is among them.

And earlier, you idiotically claim Al-Qaeda in Iraq was nothing in Iraq, yet again, your own link reveals your ignorance...

Al-Zarqāwī, who quickly came to be regarded as one of the most destructive militants in Iraq, organized a wave of attacks, often suicide bombings, that targeted security forces, government institutions, and Iraqi civilians.​

Al-Zarqawi was killed in 2006. His initiative in Iraq was defeated. What was left of his group went into hiding in Syria. You cannot call yourself Al-Qaeda unless you are aligned with Osama at the time. Al-Zarqawi's earlier group was not being funded by Al-Qaeda.

AQI didn't have the power to hold land in Iraq after the death of their leader and they never built the caliphate they were looking for during the Iraq war.

By 2009-2010, AQI was almost completely in Syria and had run out of power. They were basically in exile from the new Iraqi government.

Obama then used them to widen the civil war in Syria. He provided them training at our base in Jordan. He armed and provisioned the group. He gave them the influx of capital they needed for a reboot.

He gave them what they needed to grow again.



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More bullshit you're making up. Like other terrorist groups, killed leaders are replaced and their fighting continues. Again, from your own link...

Al-Qaeda in Iraq remained active even after al-Zarqāwī was killed by U.S. forces in 2006. The organization was severely weakened in 2007, however, after Sunni tribes paid by the United States began to form militias known as “Awakening Councils” to expel al-Qaeda in Iraq from their territories.​

Yep. Didn't pay Al-Qaeda like you said. We cultivated local Sunni to the idea of being a part of the new unified Iraqi government and Al-Qaeda was expelled. Their idea of a Caliphate vanishing with them under Bush.


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[davecmarino]

They were defeated. On 13 October 2006, the MSC declared the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), comprising Iraq's six mostly Sunni Arab governorates: Baghdad, Anbar, Diyala, Kirkuk, Salah al-Din, Ninawa, and "other parts of the governorate of Babel", with Abu Omar al-Baghdadi being announced as the self-proclaimed state's Emir.

Multiple groups were claiming the same shit but were all defeated.


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"They were defeated."

Imbecile... if they were defeated, how'd they become known as ISI?

You're allergic to thinking, ain'tcha?

All the land they claimed remained a part of Iraq at the end of the war. They were hiding in Syria when Obama claimed victory in Iraq.

You just can't deal with reality. I post outside sources and you just spout off liberal propaganda.


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You have no idea what you're talking about.

They were still fighting until 2007 when Bush paid them to stop. They've accepted that offer. When the war was winding down as a result of that and the surge, Bush signed an agreement with Iraq to pull all of our troops out the end of 2011. It was that agreement, which Obama honored, which resulted in our troops being pulled out.

More revisionist bullshit. A status of forces agreement is meant to be renegotiated and Obama just didn't want to. He wanted his fake win. Show us proof that Bush paid Al-Qaeda. More lib horseshit.


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Then why didn't Bush negotiate one with the agreement he signed?

You just proved yourself wrong in your follow up post. How ******* dumb are you...damn stupid. You want to have it both ways. Thanks for playing moron.


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[davecmarino]

They were defeated. On 13 October 2006, the MSC declared the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), comprising Iraq's six mostly Sunni Arab governorates: Baghdad, Anbar, Diyala, Kirkuk, Salah al-Din, Ninawa, and "other parts of the governorate of Babel", with Abu Omar al-Baghdadi being announced as the self-proclaimed state's Emir.

Multiple groups were claiming the same shit but were all defeated.


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"They were defeated."

Imbecile... if they were defeated, how'd they become known as ISI?

You're allergic to thinking, ain'tcha?

All the land they claimed remained a part of Iraq at the end of the war. They were hiding in Syria when Obama claimed victory in Iraq.

You just can't deal with reality. I post outside sources and you just spout off liberal propaganda.


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You have no idea what you're talking about.

They were still fighting until 2007 when Bush paid them to stop. They've accepted that offer. When the war was winding down as a result of that and the surge, Bush signed an agreement with Iraq to pull all of our troops out the end of 2011. It was that agreement, which Obama honored, which resulted in our troops being pulled out.

More revisionist bullshit. A status of forces agreement is meant to be renegotiated and Obama just didn't want to. He wanted his fake win. Show us proof that Bush paid Al-Qaeda. More lib horseshit.


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Dumbfuck.... Your link said Bush paid them.

Don'tcha think it would be wise for you to start reading your own sources?

Bush paid Sunni locals not Al-Qaeda. The new unified Sunni caused Al-Qaeda to run to Syria in defeat. They could recruit new members and many members abandoned them to join in unification under the new government.

You are wrong again.


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[davecmarino]

Keep lying and sucking dumbfuck. It's all you are good for.


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Unlike you, I'm a married heterosexual. So's my wife. Ironically, the one who can't stop thinking of sucking is you.

The only ones not sucking are me and your wife.


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And yet, the only one who can't stop thinking about it is you.

Post your sources not your opinion from drinking the lib kool-aid. Don't blame me for the bad taste left in your mouth.


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Dumbfuck.... what taste? I'm using YOUR links to prove you wrong.

Here more of Obama and Hillary. Bullshit deals with terrorist recruited to fight In Libya and Syria.

Underhanded pieces of shit funding these jihadist.

Hillary Clinton -- Benghazi Scandal & Arming Syrian ‘Rebels’ | National Review


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[Faun]

LOLOL

That you don't know the difference only serves to highlight your ignorance.

Moron, Al-Qaeda in Iraq started as a terrorist group which went into Iraq after we invaded and then devoted themselves to Al-Qaeda. They weren't part of Al-Qaeda prior to that. In 2006, they changed their name again to ISI (ISIL, before appending Syria).

You might actually be the dumbest **** on this forum to not know any of this.

Keep making shit up. They were pledged to Osama from the start. That is why they were known as Al Qaeda.

You are living in a make believe alternate reality.
The delusions are strong in you.

al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) | militant group




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Dumbfuck, do you even bother to read your own links? Your own link doesn't say that...

Al-Qaeda in Iraq first appeared in 2004 when Abū Muṣʿab al-Zarqāwī, a Jordanian-born militant already leading insurgent attacks in Iraq, formed an alliance with al-Qaeda, pledging his group’s allegiance to Osama bin Laden in return for bin Laden’s endorsement as the leader of al-Qaeda’s franchise in Iraq.​

Moron.... how does a militant group "already leading insurgent attacks" when they aligned with Al-Qaeda, "pledge to Osama from the start??"

On top of all your other maladies, lacking common sense is among them.

And earlier, you idiotically claim Al-Qaeda in Iraq was nothing in Iraq, yet again, your own link reveals your ignorance...

Al-Zarqāwī, who quickly came to be regarded as one of the most destructive militants in Iraq, organized a wave of attacks, often suicide bombings, that targeted security forces, government institutions, and Iraqi civilians.​

Al-Zarqawi was killed in 2006. His initiative in Iraq was defeated. What was left of his group went into hiding in Syria. You cannot call yourself Al-Qaeda unless you are aligned with Osama at the time. Al-Zarqawi's earlier group was not being funded by Al-Qaeda.

AQI didn't have the power to hold land in Iraq after the death of their leader and they never built the caliphate they were looking for during the Iraq war.

By 2009-2010, AQI was almost completely in Syria and had run out of power. They were basically in exile from the new Iraqi government.

Obama then used them to widen the civil war in Syria. He provided them training at our base in Jordan. He armed and provisioned the group. He gave them the influx of capital they needed for a reboot.

He gave them what they needed to grow again.



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More bullshit you're making up. Like other terrorist groups, killed leaders are replaced and their fighting continues. Again, from your own link...

Al-Qaeda in Iraq remained active even after al-Zarqāwī was killed by U.S. forces in 2006. The organization was severely weakened in 2007, however, after Sunni tribes paid by the United States began to form militias known as “Awakening Councils” to expel al-Qaeda in Iraq from their territories.​

Yep. Didn't pay Al-Qaeda like you said. We cultivated local Sunni to the idea of being a part of the new unified Iraqi government and Al-Qaeda was expelled. Their idea of a Caliphate vanishing with them under Bush.


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Now you're lying. I never said they paid Al-Qaeda. I said he paid Al-Qaeda in Iraq, which was then calling themselves ISI -- which you lied about too when you claimed they were created under Obama.

 

[davecmarino]

Keep making shit up. They were pledged to Osama from the start. That is why they were known as Al Qaeda.

You are living in a make believe alternate reality.
The delusions are strong in you.

al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) | militant group




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Dumbfuck, do you even bother to read your own links? Your own link doesn't say that...

Al-Qaeda in Iraq first appeared in 2004 when Abū Muṣʿab al-Zarqāwī, a Jordanian-born militant already leading insurgent attacks in Iraq, formed an alliance with al-Qaeda, pledging his group’s allegiance to Osama bin Laden in return for bin Laden’s endorsement as the leader of al-Qaeda’s franchise in Iraq.​

Moron.... how does a militant group "already leading insurgent attacks" when they aligned with Al-Qaeda, "pledge to Osama from the start??"

On top of all your other maladies, lacking common sense is among them.

And earlier, you idiotically claim Al-Qaeda in Iraq was nothing in Iraq, yet again, your own link reveals your ignorance...

Al-Zarqāwī, who quickly came to be regarded as one of the most destructive militants in Iraq, organized a wave of attacks, often suicide bombings, that targeted security forces, government institutions, and Iraqi civilians.​

Al-Zarqawi was killed in 2006. His initiative in Iraq was defeated. What was left of his group went into hiding in Syria. You cannot call yourself Al-Qaeda unless you are aligned with Osama at the time. Al-Zarqawi's earlier group was not being funded by Al-Qaeda.

AQI didn't have the power to hold land in Iraq after the death of their leader and they never built the caliphate they were looking for during the Iraq war.

By 2009-2010, AQI was almost completely in Syria and had run out of power. They were basically in exile from the new Iraqi government.

Obama then used them to widen the civil war in Syria. He provided them training at our base in Jordan. He armed and provisioned the group. He gave them the influx of capital they needed for a reboot.

He gave them what they needed to grow again.



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More bullshit you're making up. Like other terrorist groups, killed leaders are replaced and their fighting continues. Again, from your own link...

Al-Qaeda in Iraq remained active even after al-Zarqāwī was killed by U.S. forces in 2006. The organization was severely weakened in 2007, however, after Sunni tribes paid by the United States began to form militias known as “Awakening Councils” to expel al-Qaeda in Iraq from their territories.​

Yep. Didn't pay Al-Qaeda like you said. We cultivated local Sunni to the idea of being a part of the new unified Iraqi government and Al-Qaeda was expelled. Their idea of a Caliphate vanishing with them under Bush.


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Now you're lying. I never said they paid Al-Qaeda. I said he paid Al-Qaeda in Iraq, which was then calling themselves ISI -- which you lied about too when you claimed they were created under Obama.

ISIS was created under Obama. He funded and armed AQI to attack Assad. They instead used what Obama gave them and attacked Iraq gathering more strength and changed their name from AQI to ISIL and finally ISIS.

It was clear what this group desired but dumbfuck Obama ignored it because he was hellbent on regime change in Syria.

Obama gave AQI all the support they needed to become ISIS and only stopped once it bit him on his ass.

AQI would have been nothing in Syria and Iraq without Obama and Clinton.


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[Faun]

"They were defeated."

Imbecile... if they were defeated, how'd they become known as ISI?

You're allergic to thinking, ain'tcha?

All the land they claimed remained a part of Iraq at the end of the war. They were hiding in Syria when Obama claimed victory in Iraq.

You just can't deal with reality. I post outside sources and you just spout off liberal propaganda.


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You have no idea what you're talking about.

They were still fighting until 2007 when Bush paid them to stop. They've accepted that offer. When the war was winding down as a result of that and the surge, Bush signed an agreement with Iraq to pull all of our troops out the end of 2011. It was that agreement, which Obama honored, which resulted in our troops being pulled out.

More revisionist bullshit. A status of forces agreement is meant to be renegotiated and Obama just didn't want to. He wanted his fake win. Show us proof that Bush paid Al-Qaeda. More lib horseshit.


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Dumbfuck.... Your link said Bush paid them.

Don'tcha think it would be wise for you to start reading your own sources?

Bush paid Sunni locals not Al-Qaeda. The new unified Sunni caused Al-Qaeda to run to Syria in defeat. They could recruit new members and many members abandoned them to join in unification under the new government.

You are wrong again.


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Dumbfuck... how can I be wrong when I'm quoting your sources?

 

[Faun]

Dumbfuck, do you even bother to read your own links? Your own link doesn't say that...

Al-Qaeda in Iraq first appeared in 2004 when Abū Muṣʿab al-Zarqāwī, a Jordanian-born militant already leading insurgent attacks in Iraq, formed an alliance with al-Qaeda, pledging his group’s allegiance to Osama bin Laden in return for bin Laden’s endorsement as the leader of al-Qaeda’s franchise in Iraq.​

Moron.... how does a militant group "already leading insurgent attacks" when they aligned with Al-Qaeda, "pledge to Osama from the start??"

On top of all your other maladies, lacking common sense is among them.

And earlier, you idiotically claim Al-Qaeda in Iraq was nothing in Iraq, yet again, your own link reveals your ignorance...

Al-Zarqāwī, who quickly came to be regarded as one of the most destructive militants in Iraq, organized a wave of attacks, often suicide bombings, that targeted security forces, government institutions, and Iraqi civilians.​

Al-Zarqawi was killed in 2006. His initiative in Iraq was defeated. What was left of his group went into hiding in Syria. You cannot call yourself Al-Qaeda unless you are aligned with Osama at the time. Al-Zarqawi's earlier group was not being funded by Al-Qaeda.

AQI didn't have the power to hold land in Iraq after the death of their leader and they never built the caliphate they were looking for during the Iraq war.

By 2009-2010, AQI was almost completely in Syria and had run out of power. They were basically in exile from the new Iraqi government.

Obama then used them to widen the civil war in Syria. He provided them training at our base in Jordan. He armed and provisioned the group. He gave them the influx of capital they needed for a reboot.

He gave them what they needed to grow again.



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More bullshit you're making up. Like other terrorist groups, killed leaders are replaced and their fighting continues. Again, from your own link...

Al-Qaeda in Iraq remained active even after al-Zarqāwī was killed by U.S. forces in 2006. The organization was severely weakened in 2007, however, after Sunni tribes paid by the United States began to form militias known as “Awakening Councils” to expel al-Qaeda in Iraq from their territories.​

Yep. Didn't pay Al-Qaeda like you said. We cultivated local Sunni to the idea of being a part of the new unified Iraqi government and Al-Qaeda was expelled. Their idea of a Caliphate vanishing with them under Bush.


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Now you're lying. I never said they paid Al-Qaeda. I said he paid Al-Qaeda in Iraq, which was then calling themselves ISI -- which you lied about too when you claimed they were created under Obama.

ISIS was created under Obama. He funded and armed AQI to attack Assad. They instead used what Obama gave them and attacked Iraq gathering more strength and changed their name from AQI to ISIL and finally ISIS.

It was clear what this group desired but dumbfuck Obama ignored it because he was hellbent on regime change in Syria.

Obama gave AQI all the support they needed to become ISIS and only stopped once it bit him on his ass.

AQI would have been nothing in Syria and Iraq without Obama and Clinton.


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Dumbfuck... Your own link says they were created in 2006.

 

[davecmarino]

All the land they claimed remained a part of Iraq at the end of the war. They were hiding in Syria when Obama claimed victory in Iraq.

You just can't deal with reality. I post outside sources and you just spout off liberal propaganda.


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You have no idea what you're talking about.

They were still fighting until 2007 when Bush paid them to stop. They've accepted that offer. When the war was winding down as a result of that and the surge, Bush signed an agreement with Iraq to pull all of our troops out the end of 2011. It was that agreement, which Obama honored, which resulted in our troops being pulled out.

More revisionist bullshit. A status of forces agreement is meant to be renegotiated and Obama just didn't want to. He wanted his fake win. Show us proof that Bush paid Al-Qaeda. More lib horseshit.


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Dumbfuck.... Your link said Bush paid them.

Don'tcha think it would be wise for you to start reading your own sources?

Bush paid Sunni locals not Al-Qaeda. The new unified Sunni caused Al-Qaeda to run to Syria in defeat. They could recruit new members and many members abandoned them to join in unification under the new government.

You are wrong again.


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Dumbfuck... how can I be wrong when I'm quoting your sources?

You said Bush paid Al-Qaeda to make them go away. He didn't. The source didn't say that.

Learn to read ************ and stop making up lies.


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[davecmarino]

Al-Zarqawi was killed in 2006. His initiative in Iraq was defeated. What was left of his group went into hiding in Syria. You cannot call yourself Al-Qaeda unless you are aligned with Osama at the time. Al-Zarqawi's earlier group was not being funded by Al-Qaeda.

AQI didn't have the power to hold land in Iraq after the death of their leader and they never built the caliphate they were looking for during the Iraq war.

By 2009-2010, AQI was almost completely in Syria and had run out of power. They were basically in exile from the new Iraqi government.

Obama then used them to widen the civil war in Syria. He provided them training at our base in Jordan. He armed and provisioned the group. He gave them the influx of capital they needed for a reboot.

He gave them what they needed to grow again.



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More bullshit you're making up. Like other terrorist groups, killed leaders are replaced and their fighting continues. Again, from your own link...

Al-Qaeda in Iraq remained active even after al-Zarqāwī was killed by U.S. forces in 2006. The organization was severely weakened in 2007, however, after Sunni tribes paid by the United States began to form militias known as “Awakening Councils” to expel al-Qaeda in Iraq from their territories.​

Yep. Didn't pay Al-Qaeda like you said. We cultivated local Sunni to the idea of being a part of the new unified Iraqi government and Al-Qaeda was expelled. Their idea of a Caliphate vanishing with them under Bush.


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Now you're lying. I never said they paid Al-Qaeda. I said he paid Al-Qaeda in Iraq, which was then calling themselves ISI -- which you lied about too when you claimed they were created under Obama.

ISIS was created under Obama. He funded and armed AQI to attack Assad. They instead used what Obama gave them and attacked Iraq gathering more strength and changed their name from AQI to ISIL and finally ISIS.

It was clear what this group desired but dumbfuck Obama ignored it because he was hellbent on regime change in Syria.

Obama gave AQI all the support they needed to become ISIS and only stopped once it bit him on his ass.

AQI would have been nothing in Syria and Iraq without Obama and Clinton.


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Dumbfuck... Your own link says they were created in 2006.

Nothing was created in 2006. AQI didn't control the Caliphate of ISIS in 2006. It was just the stated idea that they put out to attract Sunni to their cause. It didn't work and they didn't accomplish the goal. Bush beat them. He paid local Sunni groups to fight against the idea of a caliphate and join a unified Iraqi government. The Sunni stopped supporting AQI and AQI retreated to Syria.

ISIS didn't exist until Obama. Obama helped make it a reality.


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[Faun]

"They were defeated."

Imbecile... if they were defeated, how'd they become known as ISI?

You're allergic to thinking, ain'tcha?

All the land they claimed remained a part of Iraq at the end of the war. They were hiding in Syria when Obama claimed victory in Iraq.

You just can't deal with reality. I post outside sources and you just spout off liberal propaganda.


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You have no idea what you're talking about.

They were still fighting until 2007 when Bush paid them to stop. They've accepted that offer. When the war was winding down as a result of that and the surge, Bush signed an agreement with Iraq to pull all of our troops out the end of 2011. It was that agreement, which Obama honored, which resulted in our troops being pulled out.

More revisionist bullshit. A status of forces agreement is meant to be renegotiated and Obama just didn't want to. He wanted his fake win. Show us proof that Bush paid Al-Qaeda. More lib horseshit.


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Then why didn't Bush negotiate one with the agreement he signed?

You just proved yourself wrong in your follow up post. How ******* dumb are you...damn stupid. You want to have it both ways. Thanks for playing moron.


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Why'd you avoid answering the question, dumbfuck?

Why didn't Bush get status of forces agreement when he signed the agreement to pull all of our troops out? Why did Bush agree to pulling the troops out without a SoFA?

 

[Faun]

More bullshit you're making up. Like other terrorist groups, killed leaders are replaced and their fighting continues. Again, from your own link...

Al-Qaeda in Iraq remained active even after al-Zarqāwī was killed by U.S. forces in 2006. The organization was severely weakened in 2007, however, after Sunni tribes paid by the United States began to form militias known as “Awakening Councils” to expel al-Qaeda in Iraq from their territories.​

Yep. Didn't pay Al-Qaeda like you said. We cultivated local Sunni to the idea of being a part of the new unified Iraqi government and Al-Qaeda was expelled. Their idea of a Caliphate vanishing with them under Bush.


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Now you're lying. I never said they paid Al-Qaeda. I said he paid Al-Qaeda in Iraq, which was then calling themselves ISI -- which you lied about too when you claimed they were created under Obama.

ISIS was created under Obama. He funded and armed AQI to attack Assad. They instead used what Obama gave them and attacked Iraq gathering more strength and changed their name from AQI to ISIL and finally ISIS.

It was clear what this group desired but dumbfuck Obama ignored it because he was hellbent on regime change in Syria.

Obama gave AQI all the support they needed to become ISIS and only stopped once it bit him on his ass.

AQI would have been nothing in Syria and Iraq without Obama and Clinton.


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Dumbfuck... Your own link says they were created in 2006.

Nothing was created in 2006. AQI didn't control the Caliphate of ISIS in 2006. It was just the stated idea that they put out to attract Sunni to their cause. It didn't work and they didn't accomplish the goal. Bush beat them. He paid local Sunni groups to fight against the idea of a caliphate and join a unified Iraqi government. The Sunni stopped supporting AQI and AQI retreated to Syria.

ISIS didn't exist until Obama. Obama helped make it a reality.


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Dumbfuck, your own link says ISI was created in 2006.

 

[JoeB131]

I posted the proof from Judicial Watch.

I'm sorry you don't realize that "Proof" and "Judicial Watch" is an oxymoron.