'BLAMER And Chief' Blames MEDIA For Empowering ISIS

[PaintMyHouse]

The Pentagon admitted Obama supports ISIS and Jihad

Link? Oh right, you made that up of course.

Bush and Cheney, the fathers of ISIS.

Just like you made that up.

Only mine is real. All I did was state the obvious.

Obviously incorrect.

http://www.cracked.com/personal-exp...-death-squads-isiss-bizarre-origin-story.html

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Let me go depose of my trash.

 

[Avatar4321]

Kerry says global warming is the biggest threat we face. I'll bet those poor saps in Paris died never knowing that global warming was the real culprit.

Climate Change is the biggest threat. ISIS is a tick by comparison.

This alone shows that you are not qualified for rational debate.

One can kill hundreds, and the other hundreds of millions. It's math, dumbass.

One is real. The other...a theory.

Both are real, deal with it.

This is why you are unqualified for rational debate. There is a higher chance of the demon Moloch rising from the netherworld than global warming.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Climate Change is the biggest threat. ISIS is a tick by comparison.

This alone shows that you are not qualified for rational debate.

One can kill hundreds, and the other hundreds of millions. It's math, dumbass.

One is real. The other...a theory.

Both are real, deal with it.

This is why you are unqualified for rational debate. There is a higher chance of the demon Moloch rising from the netherworld than global warming.

The vast majority of scientists, with minds far more rational than yours, disagree. Just because you cannot imagine or deal with the future doesn't mean the rest of us are that stupid.

And here's a rationality test for you. ISIS captures you and your 12-year-old twins, a son and a daughter. You must pick a child to go free or all of you are prisoners for life. The son they will likely work to death in a year, and the daughter they will rape daily but promise to release in two years. Pick one?

 

[easyt65]

It wasn't so much deposing Saddam but the policies implemented (or lack thereof) after he was gone. As the occupying power they failed miserably at governing the country they conquered, leading to the civil war, with porous borders that allowed foreign terrorist in to form al Qaeda in Iraq.

What a Liberal DONK! When you remain in the country after liberating an until-then 'enslaved' nation AT THE REQUEST OF THAT NATION - asking you to help provide security, training, and help getting on their feet, and going YOU ARE NOT AN 'OCCUPYING POWER', which insinuates you are imposing your will on the host nation! You are ALLIES, partners, WORKING TOGETHER!

See, that's some Barry SENIOR bullshite right there! That's some Barak Hussein Senior Anti-Colonialist BS coming out in your post. Barry Sr, like Barry Jr, believes the US was evil, a 'colonialist' nation - like Britain granted was. He thought the US is ONLY great because we conquered other nations and then pillaged their wealth and resources. That is exactly what is implied by the choice of your words. WORDS MATTER. If you feel the US is evil, that we invaded Iraq to impose or will on them, that we are 'occupiers', speaking on behalf of myself and many of my brothers and sisters who went through some hell over there to help liberate the Iraqi people

 

[easyt65]

No we disposed Saddam.... see mental giant Siete.

'DEAD' - as in 'No longer among the living!'

 

[Londoner]

It's NOT the BEHEADINGS
It's NOT the BURNING PEOPLE ALIVE
It's NOT the LOWERING OF PEOPLE IN CAGES INTO WATER TO DROWN THEM
It's NOT the SUICIDE BOMBINGS
It's NOT the ASSASSINATIONS OF AMBASSADORS
It's NOT the MURDER OF AMERICANS ABROAD, IN PARIS, IN ISRAEL, IN MALI
It's NOT the MASS TERRORIST THREATS AND FOLLOW-UP ATTACKS, BOMBINGS, AND KILLINGS
It's NOT THE FBI CONFIRMING 1,000 OPEN ISIS INVESTIGATIONS IN THE US
It's NOT the TERRORIST ATTACK AT FORT HOOD THAT RESULTED IN DEAD AMERICANS
It's NOT the TERRORIST ATTACK IN BOSTON THAT RESULTED IN DEAD AMERICANS
It's NOT the TERRORIST ATTACK AT RECRUITING CTR IN TN THAT RESULTED IN DEAD AMERICANS
It's NOT the TERRORIST ATTACK AT CAL UNIVERSITY WHERE AN AMERICAN WAS STABBED
It's NOT the 20 US EMBASSY ATTACKS THROUGHOUT THE ME THAT RESULTED IN 4 DEAD AMERICANS
It's NOT the President's FAILED FOREIGN POLICY, STRATEGY, AND REFUSAL TO EMBRACE REALITY

Exactly right moron - it's not those things.

It's the fact that if you do those things, you can be sure that your unwitting republican allies in the USA will broadcast those things for political gain - which has the desired effect of making people live in fear.

If the rightwing media machine was not the primary advertiser of terrorist events, the incentive to perform those actions would go down.

Just wait until we have a Republican president in office. The incentive for terrorism will go way up. Why? Because the terrorists know that a Republican will be far more likely to construct a freedom-destroying surveillance bureaucracy. This is how they destroy the West, by scaring us into destroying our freedom.

Al Qaeda, ISIS and the Republicans all use the fear created by terrorism to achieve their political goals. They all require terrorism to thrive politically.

God help us.

 

[Siete]

Bush and Cheney, the fathers of ISIS.

Obama blames the PRESS.

Libs....


"B...b...b...b...BUT BUUUUUUSH!"

In this case blaming Bush is correct. ISIS is the result of his unnecessary Iraq war.

disposing an existing government and allowing others to form is well beyond the RW's capability of processing complex thought..

It wasn't so much deposing Saddam but the policies implemented (or lack thereof) after he was gone. As the occupying power they failed miserably at governing the country they conquered, leading to the civil war, with porous borders that allowed foreign terrorist in to form al Qaeda in Iraq.

No we disposed Saddam.... see mental giant Siete.

and ( his) the entire Baath government... straight down the political garbage disposal ... ,or is it desposeal ... you dumbass

 

[BlindBoo]

had we left the Iraqi government alone and minded our own business rather than overthrowing Saddam, ISIS would have never had the opportunity to form, much less grow.

like Powell said "you'll own it"

Except Iraq was Liberated....by the blood and sacrifice of our military.
The War was WON - Obama said so and began to withdraw our troops.
He was entrusted with a victory and a liberated Iraq...and F*ed it UP!
He FAILED to safeguard what was entrusted to him.
Obama ARMED ISIS from Benghazi.
Obama spent MILLIONS on supplying, arming, and even TRAINING terrorists for ISIS.
He made excuses for them ('JV Team') then did NOTHING while they flowed into Iraq and took over much of the country our military had liberated.

And after his HUMILIATING WORLD-WIDE EMBARASSING COWARDLY BACKING DOWN of his infamous SYRIAN RED LINE that he tried to blame on the whole world (a world that laughed at him for trying to do so) that STUCK IN HIS CRAW, Obama has been OBSESSED with ASSAD!

The time to take down Assad was RIGHT THEN....but he F*ed up and lost his chance. He has waited until Russia / Putin stepped in, built a base, brought in thousands of troops, planes, and weapons. He has waited until Iran sent troops into Syria to protect Assad. He waited until after Putin / Russia destroyed the 'rebels' with whom he was waging his proxy war against Assad.

While focusing on Assad (and facilitating Illegal Immigration at home):
ISIS moved into Iraq
20 US Embassies were simultaneously attacked, 4 overrun
4 Americans were killed abroad
Americans were repeatedly attacked and killed at home

While he patted himself on the back and praised his (FAILED 'incomplete') foreign policy and strategy of 'containing' ISIS - and after proclaiming he had done so - over 150 people were murdered in Paris and almost as many were wounded. From somewhere deep within his own reality, Obama responded to these attacks by calling them a 'set-back', mock the American people's valid concerns, and vows to continue what, only in HIS mind' he considers a 'winning strategy' against ISIS WHILE pursuing what HE feels to be the REAL threat - a very well protected Assad.

Despite reality, 'Don Quixote' Obama has decided Assad is his 'windmill', and nothing is going to change it.

If the war was won, why did President Bush have to sign a SOFA with the Iraqis before the end of 2008 that left no doubt as to when our military had to leave?

When punishment for Syrian's use of Chemical weapons was on the table, how many Republican's voted for strikes against them?

Like Japan during WWII in desperation using suicide bombers, ISIS is losing ground and will continue to lose ground and the only thing they will be able to do is strike at soft targets and kill innocent people with radically stupid people willing to kill themselves.

 

[easyt65]

It's NOT the BEHEADINGS
It's NOT the BURNING PEOPLE ALIVE
It's NOT the LOWERING OF PEOPLE IN CAGES INTO WATER TO DROWN THEM
It's NOT the SUICIDE BOMBINGS
It's NOT the ASSASSINATIONS OF AMBASSADORS
It's NOT the MURDER OF AMERICANS ABROAD, IN PARIS, IN ISRAEL, IN MALI
It's NOT the MASS TERRORIST THREATS AND FOLLOW-UP ATTACKS, BOMBINGS, AND KILLINGS
It's NOT THE FBI CONFIRMING 1,000 OPEN ISIS INVESTIGATIONS IN THE US
It's NOT the TERRORIST ATTACK AT FORT HOOD THAT RESULTED IN DEAD AMERICANS
It's NOT the TERRORIST ATTACK IN BOSTON THAT RESULTED IN DEAD AMERICANS
It's NOT the TERRORIST ATTACK AT RECRUITING CTR IN TN THAT RESULTED IN DEAD AMERICANS
It's NOT the TERRORIST ATTACK AT CAL UNIVERSITY WHERE AN AMERICAN WAS STABBED
It's NOT the 20 US EMBASSY ATTACKS THROUGHOUT THE ME THAT RESULTED IN 4 DEAD AMERICANS
It's NOT the President's FAILED FOREIGN POLICY, STRATEGY, AND REFUSAL TO EMBRACE REALITY

Exactly right moron - it's not those things.

It's the fact that if you do those things, you can be sure that your unwitting republican allies in the USA will broadcast those things for political gain - which has the desired effect of making people live in fear.

If FOX News and the rightwing media machine was not the primary advertiser of terrorist events, the incentive to perform those actions would go down.

Just wait until we have a Republican president in office. The incentive for terrorism will go way up. Why? Because the terrorist know that a Republican will be far more likely to construct a freedom-destroying surveillance bureaucracy.

Al Qaeda, ISIS and the Republicans all use the fear created by terrorism to achieve their political goals.

God help us.

So in your - and Obama's - twisted little world the American people are unjustifiably frightened for our national security and for our lives because Fox News has been REPORTING the terrorist attacks, murders, assassinations, and Obama's inability to protect the American people or to stop ISIS.... NOT because all of that actually happened and is continuing to happen?!

 

[BlindBoo]

Bush and Cheney, the fathers of ISIS.

If that's true - what has Obama done about it in almost eight years? Please enlighten everyone.

No, you dont get it. Just by saying "It's bush's fault" the Left absolves Obama of any blame whatsoever. The fact that he's had nearly 8 years to deal with the problem and has totally failed is irrelevant.

Can't be. The mere act of electing him was supposed to have the world joining hands and singing kumbaya .

That was one of the memes of the losing side. Not the best but one of many.

 

[Siete]

Bush and Cheney, the fathers of ISIS.

Obama blames the PRESS.

Libs....


"B...b...b...b...BUT BUUUUUUSH!"

In this case blaming Bush is correct. ISIS is the result of his unnecessary Iraq war.

disposing an existing government and allowing others to form is well beyond the RW's capability of processing complex thought..

I think you mean deposing...

You left-wingers are so stupid.

Let me go depose of my trash.

you already did in post # 41, but by all means depose it again.

 

[easyt65]

If the war was won, why did President Bush have to sign a SOFA with the Iraqis before the end of 2008 that left no doubt as to when our military had to leave?

Do you know what a SOFA is? Apparently NOT!

Does a SOFA mean a war is over? No
Does the end of a war mean an IMMEDIATE draw-down - evacuation - adios, the exodus of ALL troops? NO!
Had Bush made agreements with Iraq to keep security personnel, instructors, engineers to help build/rebuild Iraq's energy sources, etc? YES!

Obama said there would be 'no boots on the ground' in Iraq. He then clarified there would be no 'combat boots' on the ground. He was so full of shite his eyes were brown. There has NEVER been an Iraq sine the war began that did NOT have American soldiers on the ground.

This 'ruse' about a SOFA of yours is like your argument - crap.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Pentagon admitted Obama supports ISIS and Jihad

Link? Oh right, you made that up of course.

No, the Pentagon said so

“...there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).”

We’ve said it before, and we’ll say it as many times as it takes for the naive, largely aloof American public to catch on: the quote excerpted above is the smoking gun when it comes to Washington’s ISIS “strategy.”

Note that no tin foil hats or conspiracy theories are needed. The passage shown above is from a 2012 declassified Pentagon report on the situation in Syria (you can read it in full here). What it says is that US intelligence was well aware of the possibility that Sunni extremists working to destabilize the Assad government might move to establish a proto-state in eastern Syria based around orthodox, ultra-conservative, Sunni Islam. It also says “the supporting powers to the opposition” (i.e. the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey) would be delighted with such an outcome as it would “isolate” Assad on the way to dealing a strategic death blow to Iran’s Shiite crescent (i.e. Tehran’s regional ambitions). That’s the only possible interpretation of the quote shown above and it’s completely consistent with the information contained in a leaked diplomatic cable sent in 2006 by acting Deputy Chief of Mission in Syria William Roebuck which contained the following “advice” on how to go about destabilizing the Assad government:

PLAY ON SUNNI FEARS OF IRANIAN INFLUENCE: There are fears in Syria that the Iranians are active in both Shia proselytizing and conversion of, mostly poor, Sunnis. Though often exaggerated, such fears reflect an element of the Sunni community in Syria that is increasingly upset by and focused on the spread of Iranian influence in their country through activities ranging from mosque construction to business. Both the local Egyptian and Saudi missions here, (as well as prominent Syrian Sunni religious leaders), are giving increasing attention to the matter and we should coordinate more closely with their governments on ways to better publicize and focus regional attention on the issue. "

ISIS Coverup: US Centcom Accused Of Lying To President, Congress, Public About Airstrikes, Ground Fight | Zero Hedge


Time to reorder those Hope N Change kneepads, Fluffer

 

[BlindBoo]

Bush and Cheney, the fathers of ISIS.

Obama blames the PRESS.

Libs....


"B...b...b...b...BUT BUUUUUUSH!"

In this case blaming Bush is correct. ISIS is the result of his unnecessary Iraq war.

disposing an existing government and allowing others to form is well beyond the RW's capability of processing complex thought..

It wasn't so much deposing Saddam but the policies implemented (or lack thereof) after he was gone. As the occupying power they failed miserably at governing the country they conquered, leading to the civil war, with porous borders that allowed foreign terrorist in to form al Qaeda in Iraq.

No we disposed Saddam.... see mental giant Siete.

Typical Republican take a sight grammatical error and use that as the basis for......

 

[easyt65]

Typical Republican take a sight grammatical error and use that as the basis for......

Funny, coming from someone who does this all the time...

 

[koshergrl]

Gads I wish Obama would just keel over.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"The Obama White House is giving ISIS a 45 minute warning before bombing their oil tankers by dropping leaflets advising potential jihadists to flee before air strikes in Syria.

“Get out of your trucks now, and run away from them. Warning: air strikes are coming. Oil trucks will be destroyed. Get away from your oil trucks immediately. Do not risk your life,” the leaflet reads."

White House Gave ISIS 45 Minute Warning Before Bombing Oil Tankers

Obama warning his brothers in Jihad

 

[oldsoul]

If the rightwing media machine was not the primary advertiser of terrorist events, the incentive to perform those actions would go down.

Right, because the fact that they see us as infidels has nothing to do with it.
I'll beleive that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert.

 

[BlindBoo]

If the war was won, why did President Bush have to sign a SOFA with the Iraqis before the end of 2008 that left no doubt as to when our military had to leave?

Do you know what a SOFA is? Apparently NOT!

Does a SOFA mean a war is over? No
Does the end of a war mean an IMMEDIATE draw-down - evacuation - adios, the exodus of ALL troops? NO!
Had Bush made agreements with Iraq to keep security personnel, instructors, engineers to help build/rebuild Iraq's energy sources, etc? YES!

Obama said there would be 'no boots on the ground' in Iraq. He then clarified there would be no 'combat boots' on the ground. He was so full of shite his eyes were brown. There has NEVER been an Iraq sine the war began that did NOT have American soldiers on the ground.

This 'ruse' about a SOFA of yours is like your argument - crap.

Tell me what do you think this means?

4. The United States recognizes the sovereign right of the Government of Iraq to request the departure of the United States Forces from Iraq at any time The Government of Iraq recognizes the sovereign right of the United States to withdraw the United States Forces from Iraq at any time.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf