Black slave owners in the United States

[Lumpy 1]

I dont care anything about slaves but I do know that a lot of dumbass blacks are still slaves to democrats.

Yup, Democrats went from slavery and oppression to economic slavery and oppression with Lyndon Johnson's great society programs. Democrats destroyed their family structure, infused their ghetto's with drugs and black leadership made chumps of their own race suck-holing and selling out to the Democratic Party.

If your looking for racism and oppression you need not look much farther than the Democratic Party...

So like 130 years to go...
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[Asclepias]

Black slave owners in the United States

Philip Burnham, in the article "Selling Poor Steven" published in the February/March 1993 issue of American Heritage, found that in the US Census of 1830 there were 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Burnham wrote about the slave John Casor, who was denied his freedom by Black slave owner Anthony Johnson.

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    "In the 1640s John Casor was brought from Africa to America, where he toiled as a servant for a Virginia landowner. In 1654 Casor filed a complaint in Northampton County Court, claiming that his master, Anthony Johnson, had unjustly extended the terms of his indenture with the intention of keeping Casor his slave for life. Johnson, insisting he knew nothing of any indenture, fought hard to retain what he regarded as his personal property. After much wrangling, on March 8, 1655, the court ruled that "the said John Casor Negro shall forthwith be returned unto the service of his master Anthony Johnson," consigning him to a bitter lifetime of bondage. Given the vulnerable legal status of servants - black and white - in colonial America, the decision was not surprising But the documents reveal one additional fact of interest: Anthony Johnson, like his chattel Casor, was black.

Very interesting, I had no knowledge of this.

Sure you did. The present day version would be Black republicans. Every race that has had the misfortune of encountering the white race has always had its turncoats looking for personal gain to the detriment of their race.

Sure I didn't. You are trying to create a false equivalency to distract from the little known historical fact of pre-Civil War Black slave ownership.

I dont understand how its little known. You guys are always making the claim that a Black man was the first to own a slave here in the US which is unmitigated bull shit.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Black slave owners in the United States

Philip Burnham, in the article "Selling Poor Steven" published in the February/March 1993 issue of American Heritage, found that in the US Census of 1830 there were 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Burnham wrote about the slave John Casor, who was denied his freedom by Black slave owner Anthony Johnson.

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    "In the 1640s John Casor was brought from Africa to America, where he toiled as a servant for a Virginia landowner. In 1654 Casor filed a complaint in Northampton County Court, claiming that his master, Anthony Johnson, had unjustly extended the terms of his indenture with the intention of keeping Casor his slave for life. Johnson, insisting he knew nothing of any indenture, fought hard to retain what he regarded as his personal property. After much wrangling, on March 8, 1655, the court ruled that "the said John Casor Negro shall forthwith be returned unto the service of his master Anthony Johnson," consigning him to a bitter lifetime of bondage. Given the vulnerable legal status of servants - black and white - in colonial America, the decision was not surprising But the documents reveal one additional fact of interest: Anthony Johnson, like his chattel Casor, was black.

Very interesting, I had no knowledge of this.

Sure you did. The present day version would be Black republicans. Every race that has had the misfortune of encountering the white race has always had its turncoats looking for personal gain to the detriment of their race.

Sure I didn't. You are trying to create a false equivalency to distract from the little known historical fact of pre-Civil War Black slave ownership.

I dont understand how its little known. You guys are always making the claim that a Black man was the first to own a slave here in the US which is unmitigated bull shit.

And you keep claiming all those thousands of black slave owners that owned 12000 slaves were just buying family members.

 

[Asclepias]

Black slave owners in the United States

Philip Burnham, in the article "Selling Poor Steven" published in the February/March 1993 issue of American Heritage, found that in the US Census of 1830 there were 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Burnham wrote about the slave John Casor, who was denied his freedom by Black slave owner Anthony Johnson.

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    "In the 1640s John Casor was brought from Africa to America, where he toiled as a servant for a Virginia landowner. In 1654 Casor filed a complaint in Northampton County Court, claiming that his master, Anthony Johnson, had unjustly extended the terms of his indenture with the intention of keeping Casor his slave for life. Johnson, insisting he knew nothing of any indenture, fought hard to retain what he regarded as his personal property. After much wrangling, on March 8, 1655, the court ruled that "the said John Casor Negro shall forthwith be returned unto the service of his master Anthony Johnson," consigning him to a bitter lifetime of bondage. Given the vulnerable legal status of servants - black and white - in colonial America, the decision was not surprising But the documents reveal one additional fact of interest: Anthony Johnson, like his chattel Casor, was black.

Very interesting, I had no knowledge of this.

Sure you did. The present day version would be Black republicans. Every race that has had the misfortune of encountering the white race has always had its turncoats looking for personal gain to the detriment of their race.

Sure I didn't. You are trying to create a false equivalency to distract from the little known historical fact of pre-Civil War Black slave ownership.

I dont understand how its little known. You guys are always making the claim that a Black man was the first to own a slave here in the US which is unmitigated bull shit.

And you keep claiming all those thousands of black slave owners that owned 12000 slaves were just buying family members.

Thats true. Most of them owned their kids and spouses you idiot. Thats freely available data should you choose to research it. The ones that did it for profit were a small minority much like Black republicans are today.

 

[Turn Right]

I dont understand how its little known. You guys are always making the claim that a Black man was the first to own a slave here in the US which is unmitigated bull shit.

I see that you're not a big fan of American history.

 

[Turn Right]

Thats true. Most of them owned their kids and spouses you idiot. Thats freely available data should you choose to research it. The ones that did it for profit were a small minority much like Black republicans are today.

Black Republicans of today are still fighting to free themselves from the democratic plantations.

Obama was Americas biggest house Negro. He promised you the moon and gave you nothing.

This is why intelligent African American are jumping on the Trump wagon where promises are being forefilled .

 

[Turn Right]

How many white slave owners were there in the same time period and how many Black slave owners owned their family members simply to protect them?

You do know that this isn't a contest don't you?

 

[Asclepias]

Thats true. Most of them owned their kids and spouses you idiot. Thats freely available data should you choose to research it. The ones that did it for profit were a small minority much like Black republicans are today.

Black Republicans of today are still fighting to free themselves from the democratic plantations.

Obama was Americas biggest house Negro. He promised you the moon and gave you nothing.

This is why intelligent African American are jumping on the Trump wagon where promises are being forefilled .

Anyone jumping on Drumpfs bandwagon is fucking idiot. Black, white, Mexican, or green. Obama gave me validation. Not to mention him standing as an example of being a Black man that could bring change.

 

[Asclepias]

How many white slave owners were there in the same time period and how many Black slave owners owned their family members simply to protect them?

You do know that this isn't a contest don't you?

Of course its not a contest. The amount of Black slave owners that actually owned slaves for profit is practically nothing compared to whites owning slaves.

 

[Turn Right]

Thats true. Most of them owned their kids and spouses you idiot. Thats freely available data should you choose to research it. The ones that did it for profit were a small minority much like Black republicans are today.

Black Republicans of today are still fighting to free themselves from the democratic plantations.

Obama was Americas biggest house Negro. He promised you the moon and gave you nothing.

This is why intelligent African American are jumping on the Trump wagon where promises are being forefilled .

Anyone jumping on Drumpfs bandwagon is fucking idiot. Black, white, Mexican, or green. Obama gave me validation. Not to mention him standing as an example of being a Black man that could bring change.

One of the few changes Obama brought was the once heeling between race relations.

Now Trump is having to deal with black on white hate crimes around every corner.

 

[Disir]

The fact that there were black slave owners does not detract from slavery itself. People have sucked for thousands of years. The reality is that before that case, most of the Africans in the colonies were indentured servants right along with those from England and Ireland etc. That's when you start to see racism. First comes the act and then the justification.

 

[IM2]

The first slaves were Irish political prisoners and Irish women and children.

Irish were never slaves in America. That's according to Irish historian Liam Hogan.

 

[IM2]

Thats true. Most of them owned their kids and spouses you idiot. Thats freely available data should you choose to research it. The ones that did it for profit were a small minority much like Black republicans are today.

Black Republicans of today are still fighting to free themselves from the democratic plantations.

Obama was Americas biggest house Negro. He promised you the moon and gave you nothing.

This is why intelligent African American are jumping on the Trump wagon where promises are being forefilled .

Anyone jumping on Drumpfs bandwagon is fucking idiot. Black, white, Mexican, or green. Obama gave me validation. Not to mention him standing as an example of being a Black man that could bring change.

One of the few changes Obama brought was the once heeling between race relations.

Now Trump is having to deal with black on white hate crimes around every corner.

No he doesn't.

 

[IM2]

Lol! He's pulling out all the debunked lies.

 

[Moonglow]

The first slaves were Irish political prisoners and Irish women and children.

Irish were never slaves in America. That's according to Irish historian Liam Hogan.

And according to slave owners slavery benefited the slave and they were happy...They were never slaves in the US but they were in certain colonies.

 

[IM2]

Black slave owners in the United States

Philip Burnham, in the article "Selling Poor Steven" published in the February/March 1993 issue of American Heritage, found that in the US Census of 1830 there were 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Burnham wrote about the slave John Casor, who was denied his freedom by Black slave owner Anthony Johnson.

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    "In the 1640s John Casor was brought from Africa to America, where he toiled as a servant for a Virginia landowner. In 1654 Casor filed a complaint in Northampton County Court, claiming that his master, Anthony Johnson, had unjustly extended the terms of his indenture with the intention of keeping Casor his slave for life. Johnson, insisting he knew nothing of any indenture, fought hard to retain what he regarded as his personal property. After much wrangling, on March 8, 1655, the court ruled that "the said John Casor Negro shall forthwith be returned unto the service of his master Anthony Johnson," consigning him to a bitter lifetime of bondage. Given the vulnerable legal status of servants - black and white - in colonial America, the decision was not surprising But the documents reveal one additional fact of interest: Anthony Johnson, like his chattel Casor, was black.

Would you care to delete this before I carve it up?

 

[Pilot1]

Thats true. Most of them owned their kids and spouses you idiot. Thats freely available data should you choose to research it. The ones that did it for profit were a small minority much like Black republicans are today.

Black Republicans of today are still fighting to free themselves from the democratic plantations.

Obama was Americas biggest house Negro. He promised you the moon and gave you nothing.

This is why intelligent African American are jumping on the Trump wagon where promises are being forefilled .

Anyone jumping on Drumpfs bandwagon is fucking idiot. Black, white, Mexican, or green. Obama gave me validation. Not to mention him standing as an example of being a Black man that could bring change.

One of the few changes Obama brought was the once heeling between race relations.

Now Trump is having to deal with black on white hate crimes around every corner.

What??? Obama set race relations back 30 years. He constantly made divisive comments like with Trayvon, the forced "Beer Summit", inviting BLM to the White House, and constant Identity Politics around RACE, Sexual Orientation, Gender, etc.

Obama had an opportunity to put racism in our rear view mirror, and chose to use it to SCORE POLITICAL POINTS with the LEFT.

 

[IM2]

The first slaves were Irish political prisoners and Irish women and children.

Irish were never slaves in America. That's according to Irish historian Liam Hogan.

And according to slave owners slavery benefited the slave and they were happy...They were never slaves in the US but they were in certain colonies.

Debunking a Myth: The Irish Were Not Slaves, Too

It has shown up on Irish trivia Facebook pages, in Scientific American magazine, and on white nationalist message boards: the little-known story of the Irish slaves who built America, who are sometimes said to have outnumbered and been treated worse than slaves from Africa.

But it’s not true.

Historians say the idea of Irish slaves is based on a misreading of history and that the distortion is often politically motivated. Far-right memes have taken off online and are used as racist barbs against African-Americans. “The Irish were slaves, too,” the memes often say. “We got over it, so why can’t you?”

A small group of Irish and American scholars has spent years pushing back on the false history. In 2016, 82 Irish scholars and writers signed an open letter denouncing the Irish slave myth and asking publications to stop mentioning it. Some complied, removing or revising articles that referenced the false claims, but the letter’s impact was limited.

Fact vs. Fiction
The Irish slave narrative is based on the misinterpretation of the history of indentured servitude, which is how many poor Europeans migrated to North America and the Caribbean in the early colonial period, historians said.

Without a doubt, life was bad for indentured servants. They were often treated brutally. Not all of them entered servitude willingly. Some were political prisoners. Some were children.

“I’m not saying it was pleasant or anything — it was the opposite — but it was a completely different category from slavery,” said Liam Hogan, a research librarian in Ireland who has spearheaded the debunking effort. “It was a transitory state.”

The legal differences between indentured servitude and chattel slavery were profound, according to Matthew Reilly, an archaeologist who studies Barbados. Unlike slaves, servants were considered legally human. Their servitude was based on a contract that limited their service to a finite period of time, usually about seven years, in exchange for passage to the colonies. They did not pass their unfree status on to descendants.

Contemporary accounts in Ireland sometimes referred to these people as slaves, Mr. Hogan said. That was true in the sense that any form of coerced labor can be described as slavery, from Ancient Rome to modern-day human trafficking. But in colonial America and the Caribbean, the word “slavery” had a specific legal meaning. Europeans, by definition, were not included in it.

“An indenture implies two people have entered into a contract with each other but slavery is not a contract,” said Leslie Harris, a professor of African-American history at Northwestern University. “It is often about being a prisoner of war or being bought or sold bodily as part of a trade. That is a critical distinction.”

"It is true that anti-Irish sentiment was present in the United States until well into the 20th century, but that is a separate issue from 17th century indentured servitude, Ms. Harris said. The descendants of indentured servants, Irish or otherwise, did not face a legacy of racism similar to the one faced by people of African descent, she said."

Debunking a Myth: The Irish Were Not Slaves, Too

Open letter to Irish Central, Irish Examiner and Scientific American about their “Irish slaves”…

 

[IM2]

Thats true. Most of them owned their kids and spouses you idiot. Thats freely available data should you choose to research it. The ones that did it for profit were a small minority much like Black republicans are today.

Black Republicans of today are still fighting to free themselves from the democratic plantations.

Obama was Americas biggest house Negro. He promised you the moon and gave you nothing.

This is why intelligent African American are jumping on the Trump wagon where promises are being forefilled .

Anyone jumping on Drumpfs bandwagon is fucking idiot. Black, white, Mexican, or green. Obama gave me validation. Not to mention him standing as an example of being a Black man that could bring change.

One of the few changes Obama brought was the once heeling between race relations.

Now Trump is having to deal with black on white hate crimes around every corner.

What??? Obama set race relations back 30 years. He constantly made divisive comments like with Trayvon, the forced "Beer Summit", inviting BLM to the White House, and constant Identity Politics around RACE, Sexual Orientation, Gender, etc.

Obama had an opportunity to put racism in our rear view mirror, and chose to use it to SCORE POLITICAL POINTS with the LEFT.

Bullshit.

 

[IM2]

Did Black People Own Slaves?

Henry Louis Gates Jr.

How Many Slaves Did Blacks Own?

So what do the actual numbers of black slave owners and their slaves tell us? In 1830, the year most carefully studied by Carter G. Woodson, about 13.7 percent (319,599) of the black population was free. Of these, 3,776 free Negroes owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States, so the numbers of slaves owned by black people over all was quite small by comparison with the number owned by white people. In his essay, " 'The Known World' of Free Black Slaveholders," Thomas J. Pressly, using Woodson's statistics, calculated that 54 (or about 1 percent) of these black slave owners in 1830 owned between 20 and 84 slaves; 172 (about 4 percent) owned between 10 to 19 slaves; and 3,550 (about 94 percent) each owned between 1 and 9 slaves. Crucially, 42 percent owned just one slave.

It is reasonable to assume that the 42 percent of the free black slave owners who owned just one slave probably owned a family member to protect that person, as did many of the other black slave owners who owned only slightly larger numbers of slaves. As Woodson put it in 1924's Free Negro Owners of Slaves in the United States in 1830, "The census records show that the majority of the Negro owners of slaves were such from the point of view of philanthropy. In many instances the husband purchased the wife or vice versa … Slaves of Negroes were in some cases the children of a free father who had purchased his wife. If he did not thereafter emancipate the mother, as so many such husbands failed to do, his own children were born his slaves and were thus reported to the numerators."

Moreover, Woodson explains, "Benevolent Negroes often purchased slaves to make their lot easier by granting them their freedom for a nominal sum, or by permitting them to work it out on liberal terms." In other words, these black slave-owners, the clear majority, cleverly used the system of slavery to protect their loved ones.

https://www.theroot.com/did-black-people-own-slaves-1790895436

Hoax Alert: First Slave Owner in America WAS NOT a Black Man

First off, it should be noted that the man portrayed in the above image isn't Anthony Johnson, but more ironically, Lewis Hayden. It is ironic because Hayden was actually an African-American leader who escaped with his family from slavery in Kentucky. Before the American Civil War, he and his wife aided numerous fugitive slaves on the Underground Railroad, often sheltering them at their house.

Secondly, while the case of Anthony Johnson and John Casor was not a matter of the first slave owner, it might have been the first civil case involving slavery. At the very least this is the first known example of a black man owning either indenture servants or slaves in the colonies. Slaves had been here since 1619, and all slaves had been "legal" slaves (and thus their owners "legal" slave owners) since the first law legalizing slavery passed. The first man to be considered a slave by a court of law was John Punch, and his owner Hugh Gwyn considered the first slave owner by a court of law.

In conclusion, a black man did own slaves in Jamestown Va., but he was NOT the first slave owner. The first "20 odd" slaves arrived in 1619 on a Dutch boat and were then sold to Jamestown residents. There were white and black indentured servants then, which differ greatly from slaves. Indentured servitude was not a lifetime deal, but rather a contract to work for a certain number of years in exchange for a safe passage to the Americas.

Furthermore, in 1670, when Johnson died, a court in Virginia ruled that, because "he was a Negro and by consequence an alien," the land owned by Johnson (in Virginia) rightfully belonged to the Crown, meaning that because he was a negro he did not have the legal right to own property to begin with and therefore was not a legal slave owner.

Hoax Alert: First Slave Owner in America WAS NOT a Black Man | Lead Stories

free Negroes owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States.

Blacks owned 0.006 percent of all the slaves in the US. There were 6.28 times the number of slaves than free blacks. 99.994 percent of all slaves were not owned by blacks. ‬