Bitter Conservatism Is Ruining Men

[Dogmaphobe]

This from the cult that encourages their sons to pretend they are women.

They want their sons to BELIEVE they are women.

 

[Marener]

Oh, so you’ll only accept left wing sources, got it.

The opinion of a right winger dating expert isn’t very valuable. The guy makes his money telling conservatives what they want to hear.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I’m not a soy boy and I’m a liberal.

It’s ridiculous for the MAGAs to think they have the lock on traditional masculinity

Having read many of your posts, I agree that I wouldn't call you a soy boy.


I wouldn't call you liberal, though, either. You are a leftist.

 

[Hollie]

You mean like Hollie ?

You’re quite the creepy stalker, little lady.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I’m not a soy boy and I’m a liberal.

It’s ridiculous for the MAGAs to think they have the lock on traditional masculinity

Why are you a liberal?
Most liberal men are gay, have a gay kid, are just plain weird or are beta AF.
Conservative men aspire to be macho/masculine/alpha/assertive leaders whereas liberal men tend to be 180 degrees the other way.

 

[Delldude]

Let’s compare red states and blue states head-to-head on the global education stage. The contrast is striking.

Toss population density into the mix and your thesis gets shot in the ass.

 

[Correll]

I'll grant you there isnt a lot of data on INCEL political leanings

I did find a study. And posted it here. Here it is again.

Incels are not particularly right-wing or white, but they are extremely depressed, anxious, and lonely, according to new research>

AUSTIN, Texas — “Incels” (involuntary celibates) are ethnically and politically diverse, according to new research from The University of Texas at Austin, Brunel University London, and Swansea University. They also have a greater tendency to perceive themselves as victims, have lower levels of...

liberalarts.utexas.edu

but men are a larger percentage of the right where this destructive narrative lies

1. Tell me what this "destructive narrative" is.

2. REgardless of any narrative, there is a real problem here, that is a valid topic for policy discussion.

and it has become a movement on the right, not the left. Look at this site for context.

But why is that? IMO, it is because the RIGHT is less anti-male than the left. So, there are SOME on the right, who are willing to discuss the issues and probles raised.

Do I think people have a complaint that dating can suck at times?

The queation was about MEN, but sure fine, thanks for sort of admitting that MEN can have a valid complaint against the dating market.

That might seem like a dumb question, but I have seen many such threads derailed by people attacking the very idea that men can have interests or complaints.

So, thank you.

Sure. But the reason so many people are struggling to get by and have minimal to offer another person comfort is the inequity of success in the US. The few are very wealthy and have very attractive comfort to offer and the rest are struggling to make it... and they continue to vote for Republicans that make life even harder for them. So I have zero empathy for right wing incels even if they are nice... they are voting against their own interest.

1. You admit that men can have valid complaints, but instead of discussing their complaints, you immediately offer your own and then dismiss it. Odd choice.

2. As shown in the study I linked, INCELS actually are significantly more likely to be LEFT leaning instead of RIGHT. So your excuse for dismissing them and their suffering is wrong.

 

[Rawley]

Toss population density into the mix and your thesis gets shot in the ass.

Given Gator refuses to link his sources, you have to question whether he just makes up the shit he posts here.

 

[Correll]

Sounds like he may have fallen off the toilet seat sitting down to pee.

There is a real chance that his poor diet has really fucked him up.

If so, that's him being a retard and paying the price.

I... hope he just fell and landed really, really wrong.

Cause having frail bones in your ******* twenties? JESUS CHRIST, ,how do you come back from that?


I would have to recommend to the girl, to ditch him. She only has a month or two invested at this point and this guy is goign to be a physical basket case by his 50s.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Let’s compare red states and blue states head-to-head on the global education stage. The contrast is striking.

U.S. Education Rankings by State (2025 Snapshot)
According to the latest data:
• Top 10 U.S. states in education include Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut, Virginia, and Vermont—all traditionally blue.
• Bottom 10 include Mississippi, Texas, Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, and Arizona—mostly red.

Global Education Rankings (2025)
Globally, the top performers are:
• South Korea (1st), Denmark (2nd), Netherlands (3rd), Finland (8th), and Ireland (10th) B.
• The U.S. as a whole ranks 31st, behind countries like Poland (23rd) and Portugal (24th).

Blue States as Countries
If blue states were countries:
• Massachusetts would likely rank top 10 globally, comparable to Germany (7th) or Finland (8th).
• New Jersey, Connecticut, and Virginia would fall in the top 15–20, alongside Ireland (10th) or Canada (19th).

Red States as Countries
If red states were countries:
• Mississippi, Alabama, and Arizona would rank closer to Mexico (39th) or Argentina (38th).
• Texas and Florida, despite large economies, rank 40th and 41st in U.S. education and would likely fall outside the global top 35.

Summary
Category Example States Estimated Global Rank Equivalent

• Top Blue States MA, NJ, CT, VA Top 10–20 (Germany, Ireland)
• Mid Blue States MN, WA, NY 20–30 (Spain, Israel)
• Top Red States WY, SD 20–30 (Poland, Portugal)
• Mid Red States GA, TN 30–40 (U.S. average, Argentina)
• Low Red States MS, AL, AZ, LA 40+ (Mexico, Chile)

Your own degree of education is on display in this forum on a daily basis.

It is quite unimpressive.

 

[Delldude]

The opinion of a right winger dating expert isn’t very valuable. The guy makes his money telling conservatives what they want to hear.

But your left wing clowns don't........

 

[Delldude]

There is a real chance that his poor diet has really fucked him up.

If so, that's him being a retard and paying the price.

I... hope he just fell and landed really, really wrong.

Cause having frail bones in your ******* twenties? JESUS CHRIST, ,how do you come back from that?


I would have to recommend to the girl, to ditch him. She only has a month or two invested at this point and this guy is goign to be a physical basket case by his 50s.

I've read stories where vegans have died due to their diet.

 

[struth]

Given Gator refuses to link his sources, you have to question whether he just makes up the shit he posts here.

Yes he does

And literally ignores reality

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Basically the Washington Post has an article saying the INCEL population is growing and deadbeat men suffering self-victimization is growing. This is all happening in conjunction with the growth of MAGA and what i will call "Bitter Conservatism". Conservatives that are bitter and angry at everyone and everything. No one wants to date them, marry them, hire them, live with them, or associate with them and that is causing them to become disconnected basement dwellers at their parents (bold below). That's according to the Washington Post.

Conservatives are lonely according to multiple studies and who can blame women and the rest of us for not associating?

Conservative men... what's up?

WAPO: Why young and old men are leaving the labor force at record rates

The share of American men in the labor force reached a record low this spring, fueled by baby-boomer retirees and young men who are dropping out to study or because they are disabled or sick. (The only time it has been lower was during the first two months of the coronavirus pandemic in 2020.)

“It’s not all retirement and education. … There are guys just dropping off the planet. They’re not looking after their kids. They’re not in school. They’re not in the labor force,” said Betsey Stevenson, a professor of economics at the University of Michigan. “Across the board when we look at men, we see challenges that they face that leave too many men disconnected.”

Men who are out of the workforce are increasingly likely to have never married and to live with their parents, a Washington Post analysis of Current Population Survey data found.

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Bullshit. Conservative men are alone by choice and that fault lays entirely at the feet of liberal feminism. Constant claims of toxic masculinity and how women are safer with ******* bears it's no wonder that real men are checking out.

 

[Correll]

I've read stories where vegans have died due to their diet.

That is alarming. And sad.

Too many assholes pushing stupid ideas and we don't seem to have any ability to push back on them.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Given Gator refuses to link his sources, you have to question whether he just makes up the shit he posts here.

Obviously. Conservative men aren't becoming incels like liberal "men", they are just being more selective and staying away from toxic liberal/leftist women. I don't blame them. I married a conservative woman and we are happily married for 31 years. I would rather rip my left arm off and beat myself to death with it than spend even an hour with a modern leftist woman.

 

[struth]

Bullshit. Conservative men are alone by choice and that fault lays entirely at the feet of liberal feminism. Constant claims of toxic masculinity and how women are safer with ******* bears it's no wonder that real men are checking out.

@citygayor knows it’s bs and he’s projecting

Science has already determined that liberals are unhappy and depressed people

Why Being Conservative is Correlated with Higher Happiness - Equity in America

How bothered have you been witnessing someone in a public place being treated unfairly because of their race? How has the pandemic impacted your mental health? Thinking about climate change makes me feel anxious. [Agree/disagree] Someone [I] know has been unfairly stopped, searched, questioned...

equityresearch.tufts.edu

 

[Independent thinker]

Basically the Washington Post has an article saying the INCEL population is growing and deadbeat men suffering self-victimization is growing. This is all happening in conjunction with the growth of MAGA and what i will call "Bitter Conservatism". Conservatives that are bitter and angry at everyone and everything. No one wants to date them, marry them, hire them, live with them, or associate with them and that is causing them to become disconnected basement dwellers at their parents (bold below). That's according to the Washington Post.

Conservatives are lonely according to multiple studies and who can blame women and the rest of us for not associating?

Conservative men... what's up?

WAPO: Why young and old men are leaving the labor force at record rates

The share of American men in the labor force reached a record low this spring, fueled by baby-boomer retirees and young men who are dropping out to study or because they are disabled or sick. (The only time it has been lower was during the first two months of the coronavirus pandemic in 2020.)

“It’s not all retirement and education. … There are guys just dropping off the planet. They’re not looking after their kids. They’re not in school. They’re not in the labor force,” said Betsey Stevenson, a professor of economics at the University of Michigan. “Across the board when we look at men, we see challenges that they face that leave too many men disconnected.”

Men who are out of the workforce are increasingly likely to have never married and to live with their parents, a Washington Post analysis of Current Population Survey data found.

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Translation: You admit that democrats are losing the male vote.

 

[Dorian Mode]

@citygayor knows it’s bs and he’s projecting

Science has already determined that liberals are unhappy and depressed people

Why Being Conservative is Correlated with Higher Happiness - Equity in America

How bothered have you been witnessing someone in a public place being treated unfairly because of their race? How has the pandemic impacted your mental health? Thinking about climate change makes me feel anxious. [Agree/disagree] Someone [I] know has been unfairly stopped, searched, questioned...

equityresearch.tufts.edu

And we don't really need science to tell us that, any conversation with a leftist tells you all you need to know. These people are seriously fucked up.

 

[Delldude]

Translation: You admit that democrats are losing the male vote.

The one's that know they're men.