Birthright Citizenship…Arguments to begin this week at the Supreme Court.

[postman]

I would argue that illegal aliens are very similar to an invading army.

Except one is subject to our jurisdiction, and the other is not.
The police can not arrest an invading army.
The police can (and do) arrest illegal aliens.

See the difference.

 

[postman]

It’s an invasion even if not a military one

It's not by any stretch an invading army.
Because UN article 51 says that you can shoot an invading army on sight.

 

[postman]

Watching a podcast by VDH, where he mentioned Obama sent a memo to the Fed district justices regarding deportations, and said there would be no due process.

I've heard that referred to in the news.

And I heard the moon is made of green cheese.

 

[Kondor3]

You have it backwards. The TEMPORARY jurisdiction they have here actually trumps the SOVEREIGN jurisdiction of their home country.

The Supreme Court will give us the binding answer to that question.

You want an example?

If you go to Mexico, and they catch you doing something illegal, the SOVEREIGN jurisdiction you are afforded from America means nothing.

That is because for purposes of law-enforcement - and only for that purpose - Sovereign Jurisdiction is set aside...

For OTHER purposes - administrative matters - including determination of citizenship - Sovereign Jurisdiction can control...

I had already conceded the law enforcement aspect in this context by associating it with Temporary Jurisdiction...

Your example does nothing to counter the idea of Sovereign Jurisdiction (vs. Temporary) outside a law enforcement context.

No Sale.

 

[Delldude]

No, they actually run it.
They build the courthouses, they pay the judges, the clerks, they send out jury notices.

Not entirely.....

 

[postman]

Likewise, if a Honduran couple is passing through the USA on their way to Canada and plunk out a child, their child owes its allegiance to the same territory as from which the parents came, not America.

The child owes no such allegiance.

Japanese Americans served in the U.S. Army during World War II, despite facing discrimination and the forced internment of many of their families. Over 33,000 Japanese Americans served in the armed forces, including the Army and the Military Intelligence Service, demonstrating their loyalty to the United States.

 

[Delldude]

And I heard the moon is made of green cheese.

You should go there, you are definitely a space cadet. You know, in space, no one can hear you scream.

 

[WEATHER53]

It's not by any stretch an invading army.
Because UN article 51 says that you can shoot an invading army on sight.

I did not say that
They are not an army
They Are invading en masse

 

[postman]

The issue is whether children born to parents who have ILLEGALLY entered the US AUTOMATICALLY become US CITIZENS.

The Wong case did NOT involve this situation because both parents were here LEGALLY.

The 14th Amendment was intended to effectively repeal the original Constitution's 3/5 calculation for congressional representation and other references to slavery. In order to do so, it used exactly the same terminology ("persons") as the original text. This was also used to clarify the citizenship status of the children born to former slaves, not to confer citizenship on the children of people who were temporarily/illegally visiting the US.

P.S. The term "persons" was used in the Constitution's original text because there was no such thing as "citizens" prior to its adoption.

Let me remind you. All slaves arriving after 1807 were here ILLEGALLY.

 

[Unkotare]

Reading through this thread makes me realize AGAIN how we have royally fucked ourselves with tolerance and inclusion. We flooded our own country with the worlds filth who have gained influence through anti-American globalist wackos like Unkotare postman and Zincwarrior who’s livelihoods depend upon Americans getting fucked by the worlds trash. Fucking sad!

Lying sack of shit LOSER ^^^.

 

[Rawley]

Except one is subject to our jurisdiction, and the other is not.

How?

The police can not arrest an invading army.

Why not?

 

[citygator]

Worlds richest and most powerful nation made up entirely of immigrants says: “Immigrants are ruining our nation!”


You guys are pathetic losers who are dumb enough to think someone is coming here to take the little tiny pile of dirt you have.

 

[Delldude]

Worlds richest and most powerful nation made up entirely of immigrants says: “Immigrants are ruining our nation!”


You guys are pathetic losers who are dumb enough to think someone is coming here to take the little tiny pile of dirt you have.

It's democrats who are using illegals to ruin our nation.

 

[citygator]

It's democrats who are using illegals to ruin our nation.

You idiot. We are the world’s richest nation and most powerful nation because of immigrants… not in spite of them. The reason you are ignorant and scared is because you are ignorant. It’s a loop.

 

[postman]

I did not say that
They are not an army
They Are invading en masse

You could have said the same thing when the Japanese tourists invaded Disney Land

 

[jwoodie]

Let me remind you. All slaves arriving after 1807 were here ILLEGALLY.

So what? The 13th Amendment made them legal citizens.

 

[Rawley]

Worlds richest and most powerful nation made up entirely of immigrants says: “Immigrants are ruining our nation!”

Why do you say that?

 

[postman]

It's democrats who are using illegals to ruin our nation.

Funny. In the south they used illegals (illegally imported slaves after 1807) to help build the nation.

Times have changed.

 

[WEATHER53]

Worlds richest and most powerful nation made up entirely of immigrants says: “Immigrants are ruining our nation!”


You guys are pathetic losers who are dumb enough to think someone is coming here to take the little tiny pile of dirt you have.

Liar
Immigrants and illegals are distinctly different

 

[WEATHER53]

You idiot. We are the world’s richest nation and most powerful nation because of immigrants… not in spite of them. The reason you are ignorant and scared is because you are ignorant. It’s a loop.

You worship illegals and refrigerated cadaver trucks