Bin Laden is DEAD, thread from Hell

[bodecea]

**** Marxist Obama, the Community organizer, i.e., the Monumental Fraud who rose thru the ranks of the notorious Chicago Political machine laden with Commies and Mafiosos where even a dog catcher can't get elected without the OK of the Top Crooks in that Political Machine.

Sunday's action really upset you, didn't it?

If you can misread my contempt for Obami Salaami for the fact that he is a Monumental Fraud, and an immense danger to America than any other President past or probably future as some sort of an idiotic conclusion that I am not rejoicing re the death of that Terrorist whackjob Bin laden you are more of a whcked-out lesbian Freako than I thought you are.

Yeah... You are fit to be tied.

 

[mudwhistle]

Time to face facts folks.

It was Bush era intel the ultimately led to locating Bin Laden and the information was obtained through the use of techniques labeled as torture. Everything Bush was vilified for in his policies has led to his vindication. Anyone celebrating Obama as a hero right now is also celebrating George W Bush. Because with out his efforts osama would still be walking

Shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, detainees in the CIA's secret prison network told interrogators about an important courier with the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti who was close to bin Laden. After the CIA captured al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, he confirmed knowing al-Kuwaiti but denied he had anything to do with al-Qaida.

Then in 2004, top al-Qaida operative Hassan Ghul was captured in Iraq. Ghul told the CIA that al-Kuwaiti was a courier, someone crucial to the terrorist organization. In particular, Ghul said, the courier was close to Faraj al-Libi, who replaced Mohammed as al-Qaida's operational commander. It was a key break in the hunt for in bin Laden's personal courier.

"Hassan Ghul was the linchpin," a U.S. official said.

Phone call by Kuwaiti courier led to bin Laden - Yahoo! News

Why do people post links that they obviously haven't read?

"Mohammed did not discuss al-Kuwaiti while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He acknowledged knowing him many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic"

Uh, I'm gonna use small words so you can understand.

Waterboarding someone once is often enough of an incentive to get them to spill their guts later during standard questioning.

 

[Ernie S.]

I wonder what Osama is telling St. Peter right now about why he was so mean to Americans in New York City who never harmed him in any way ...

He ain't talking to St Peter, that's for sure.

 

[High_Gravity]

I have to say this, and I will - secure that it is buried in a huge, Mega-Thread so nobody will ever notice it . . .

I thought we didn't take out individuals. We capture them, we try them, we execute or imprison them - but we do not just send our troops on a surgical mission to kill them.

When Saddam crawled out of his hole in the ground, no one shot him. Hitler died by his own hand. As I understand it, one of the main reasons we don't take out foreign bad guys we don't like, is that we don't want them doing the same thing to our leaders.

So what's with the killing of Bin Laden? It doesn't look to me like those boys were going in there to capture him. Looks to me like they went in to do exactly what they did. It is CLAIMED he refused to surrender. It is CLAIMED he fought back. Maybe. Maybe not. Our government has been know to shade the truth a bit when it serves its own interests to do so.

I am glad the monster is dead. But I question the way in which that was brought about.

OK - let the flaming begin . . . .

Osama Bin Laden was not the President of any country, he was not a head of state like Saddam or Hitler, If Saddam opened fire on our troops he would have been killed also.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Time to face facts folks.

It was Bush era intel the ultimately led to locating Bin Laden and the information was obtained through the use of techniques labeled as torture. Everything Bush was vilified for in his policies has led to his vindication. Anyone celebrating Obama as a hero right now is also celebrating George W Bush. Because with out his efforts osama would still be walking

Shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, detainees in the CIA's secret prison network told interrogators about an important courier with the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti who was close to bin Laden. After the CIA captured al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, he confirmed knowing al-Kuwaiti but denied he had anything to do with al-Qaida.

Then in 2004, top al-Qaida operative Hassan Ghul was captured in Iraq. Ghul told the CIA that al-Kuwaiti was a courier, someone crucial to the terrorist organization. In particular, Ghul said, the courier was close to Faraj al-Libi, who replaced Mohammed as al-Qaida's operational commander. It was a key break in the hunt for in bin Laden's personal courier.

"Hassan Ghul was the linchpin," a U.S. official said.

Phone call by Kuwaiti courier led to bin Laden - Yahoo! News

Why do people post links that they obviously haven't read?

"Mohammed did not discuss al-Kuwaiti while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He acknowledged knowing him many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic"

Uh, I'm gonna use small words so you can understand.

Waterboarding someone once is often enough of an incentive to get them to spill their guts later during standard questioning.

Thanks for helping, now I know if you torture someone they're more scared months and months and months later than right after being tortured.

Great point, I've seen the light.

 

[ROBESPIERRE]

So it looks like the week that started with a phoney birth cirtificate, ended with a phoney death cirtificate.

If the CIA had had a icecube's chance in Hell of capturing Bin Laden ALIVE, they would have done it. A Bin Laden ALIVE would have been of far greater value to the USA: A Bin Laden alive could have been paraded in front of thousands of cameras. The trial of live Bin Laden would have been, not only a huge media blitz, but a huge political and moral victory for the USA!

So WHY did this not happen ? ? ?

Because Bin Laden has been dead at least 6 years! He had been ill for some time. The last word heard from him was 8 years ago.

Is it is not mighty funny that:

(1) He was "captured" and immediately shot in the face.

(2) He was swiftly "buried at sea", so the body could never later be tested.

(3) When questions were asked about his true identity, his capturers immediately claimed they had already done genetic testing!

(4) And the info leading to the capture was the direct result of statements made under torture; a great victory and vindication for both Abu Grabe & Guantanimo . . . . .A propoganda GRAND SLAM ! . . . . mighty funny . . . . . mighty funny . . . . . mighty funny . . . keep on believing.


THIS POSTER WILL MAKE YOU BELIEVE:

THIS IS PROOF THAT OSAMA BIN LADEN IS FINALLY DEAD AND THE CIA BRAVELY DID IT:

KEEP ON BELIEVING. . . . . THIS POSTER PROVES IT. . . . . . LOOK: READ FOR YOURSELF:

(I just hope, for OBAMAs sake, that this does not prove to be a giant hoax and a very dirty trick).

 

[Ernie S.]

Wrong as usual, Clinton had 2 opportunities to either kill or capture Bin Laden and he turned down both. But you go ahead and spout your ignorance.

that is UNTRUE. Clinton was obsessed with getting OBL. they missed their opportunity b/c they didn't want heavy collateral damage.

One Country offered to surrender him to us and Clinton refused. Another time it would have been a single car with a couple people in it, Ya serious collateral damage there indeed. Got any more lies?

It was a Prius. Libs can't take the chance the temp will rise 1/1,000,000,000 degree

 

[Jarhead]

I have to say this, and I will - secure that it is buried in a huge, Mega-Thread so nobody will ever notice it . . .

I thought we didn't take out individuals. We capture them, we try them, we execute or imprison them - but we do not just send our troops on a surgical mission to kill them.

When Saddam crawled out of his hole in the ground, no one shot him. Hitler died by his own hand. As I understand it, one of the main reasons we don't take out foreign bad guys we don't like, is that we don't want them doing the same thing to our leaders.

So what's with the killing of Bin Laden? It doesn't look to me like those boys were going in there to capture him. Looks to me like they went in to do exactly what they did. It is CLAIMED he refused to surrender. It is CLAIMED he fought back. Maybe. Maybe not. Our government has been know to shade the truth a bit when it serves its own interests to do so.

I am glad the monster is dead. But I question the way in which that was brought about.

OK - let the flaming begin . . . .

Bin Laden can be considered to have been a high ranking officer in a military or para-military organization at war with the United States, or, he can be considered a common criminal who committed crimes against the US and our people. Or some of both.

So we get to either apprehend him as criminal suspect or shoot him as an enemy combatant.

I am not an attorney...

But as for my take...I agree with NYCarbineer

 

[Ernie S.]

A picture speaks a thousand words.

Who is in charge in this pic?

Who has the responsibility in the picture?
If it had turned to shit, who would have taken the blame?

obama would have shifted blame to the guy to his left with the star on his shoulder.

 

[Ernie S.]

A picture speaks a thousand words.

Who is in charge in this pic?

Who has the responsibility in the picture?
If it had turned to shit, who would have taken the blame?

We're talking reality here now, not the public backlash that may result.

The reality is Obama gave the go ahead and to his credit, he let the guys with experience take over. He sat back and watched it happen.

Tell me I'm wrong.

More likely is that obama was told of credible intel on Osama's location and decided that if he didn't act on it, it would further harm his re-election hopes.

 

[bodecea]

A picture speaks a thousand words.

Who is in charge in this pic?

Who has the responsibility in the picture?
If it had turned to shit, who would have taken the blame?

obama would have shifted blame to the guy to his left with the star on his shoulder.

Nope, no one would have bought that....Obama is the CinC....the Buck stops there.

 

[CountofTuscany]

So Osama is gone. Now let's get back to reality. Jobs, the economy and things that are really on peoples minds. Bin Laden did not cause the economy to colapse and his death won't bring it back. Great intel CIA and great execution US Navy. Now back to the business at hand.

In an era when global markets process failure, success, and shocking events with ever-increasing speed, it's not surprising that the death of Osama bin Laden barely registered. Oil fell by almost $2 per barrel this morning, after the news broke, to about $112, and then quickly bounced back to $114. The dollar weakened a bit, and the stock market rose a little. As pundits chewed over the geopolitical meaning of the strike, investors turned their attention back to the large factors that are impacting asset prices. After all, the timely demise of an old thug holed up in Pakistan can't do much to impact the earnings of U.S. industrial companies, the thirst of China's economy for petroleum, or the earnings potential of Facebook.

How Bin Laden Failed to Wreck the U.S. Economy - Yahoo! Finance

 

[Uncensored2008]

Osama Bin Laden was not the President of any country, he was not a head of state like Saddam or Hitler, If Saddam opened fire on our troops he would have been killed also.

Osama bin Laden was head of the political group "Al Qaeda." He was a major political figure in the Muslim world. Barack Obama gave orders to assassinate OBL in direct violation of the Geneva convention, Executive Order 11905, United States criminal code Section 2-305 and Executive Order 12333.

Fact is, Barack Obama is a war criminal.

 

[mudwhistle]

Why do people post links that they obviously haven't read?

"Mohammed did not discuss al-Kuwaiti while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He acknowledged knowing him many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic"

Uh, I'm gonna use small words so you can understand.

Waterboarding someone once is often enough of an incentive to get them to spill their guts later during standard questioning.

Thanks for helping, now I know if you torture someone they're more scared months and months and months later than right after being tortured.

Great point, I've seen the light.

Actually you put words in my mouth.

Waterboarding could in some cases be effective at getting a prisoner to be more cooperative.

The incentive is avoiding a repeat of the negative reinforcement it presents. In other words, it tames them. Makes them less likely to lie out of fear of another dunking. Keeping prisoners seperated helps this as well.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I am not an attorney...

But as for my take...I agree with NYCarbineer

You do realize that ordering law enforcement to kill a suspect is a no-no, especially when they are sent to a foreign land to do the killing, right?

 

[Dr.Drock]

Uh, I'm gonna use small words so you can understand.

Waterboarding someone once is often enough of an incentive to get them to spill their guts later during standard questioning.

Thanks for helping, now I know if you torture someone they're more scared months and months and months later than right after being tortured.

Great point, I've seen the light.

Actually you put words in my mouth.

Waterboarding could in some cases be effective at getting a prisoner to be more cooperative.

The incentive is avoiding a repeat of the negative reinforcement it presents. In other words, it tames them. Makes them less likely to lie out of fear of another dunking. Keeping prisoners seperated helps this as well.

So in some cases it gets them to be more cooperative months and months and months later, but not right after? He was just waterboarded, it had not affect on him telling the truth, but eons later he will.

That's your defense to keep torture going?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nope, no one would have bought that....Obama is the CinC....the Buck stops there.

ROFLMAO

You're a ******* retard bod, seriously - but you make us laugh! (At you!)

 

[CountofTuscany]

Nope, no one would have bought that....Obama is the CinC....the Buck stops there.

ROFLMAO

You're a ******* retard bod, seriously - but you make us laugh! (At you!)

Some how Bush would have gotten the blame

 

[Avatar4321]

Actually, that would be Clinton.

Wrong as usual, Clinton had 2 opportunities to either kill or capture Bin Laden and he turned down both. But you go ahead and spout your ignorance.

Clinton tried to get bin laden, and failed. His administration warned Bush about bin laden. Bush ignored the warnings, to our peril. Bush then tried to get bin laden, and failed.

You can pretend otherwise all you want, but anyone with a bit of intellectual honesty knows differently.

Wow... Talk about revisionist history

 

[Uncensored2008]

Wow... Talk about revisionist history

To someone like Ravi, "truth" is defined as "that which serves the party." Facts and history are irrelevant, she serves her party and posts that which promotes it. Sure, most of what she posts are complete fabrications, but that isn't the point: serving the party is all that matters.