Bin Laden is DEAD, thread from Hell

[Harry Dresden]

Ok, yes, Obama yelled "go".

But, he was only able to do it because of a prior deal.

so?....he could have been like Clinton and said no....i changed my mind....and thats all im saying......he has to give the final ok......and thats coming from 3 Generals...the smoking Spock said he doesnt....

Doesn't what?

I thought I said that he did.

what i got out of it you said you almost choked on your Dr.Pepper for the lie i posted.....which was me saying he has to give the final ok....a few posts back.....post 1669

 

[Flagwavrusa]

A picture speaks a thousand words.

Who is in charge in this pic?

Who has the responsibility in the picture?
If it had turned to shit, who would have taken the blame?

George Bush of course.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Ok, yes, Obama yelled "go".

But, he was only able to do it because of a prior deal.

so?....he could have been like Clinton and said no....i changed my mind....and thats all im saying......he has to give the final ok......and thats coming from 3 Generals...the smoking Spock said he doesnt....

I thought you meant he had to get authorization from Pakistan go in.

no....the President.....**** Pakistan....they were harboring the guy all along....they can go to hell....

 

[idb]

A picture speaks a thousand words.

Who is in charge in this pic?

Who has the responsibility in the picture?
If it had turned to shit, who would have taken the blame?

George Bush of course.

I forgot.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Yes, and not only does he deserve credit, he also took the responsibility for any political fallout by stating it was his decision.

Now that is presidential, I don't care how much other criticism he gets or deserves for other policies.

POLITICAL FALLOUT?????????????

What political fallout could there be from killing OBL?????? Like anyone is going to miss him?

That's like saying Truman would have taken political fallout for killing Adolf Hitler.

Give us all a break!

Republicans whining that they weren't consulted...the usual.

Can you quote one Republican saying that?

Until then, you are so full of it!

 

[Harry Dresden]

What asshat wants to listen to this for weeks on end? He's dead. Yay. Time to move on.

Yet you will sit, glued to CNN yakking about this endlessly for as long as they can keep their 300 or so viewers attention.

it knocked the "Royal" honeymoon off the air......yay for that....

You're probably watching old Paris Hilton vids.

Prince William and the Duchess of Whatever the hell aren't scheduled to have their honeymoon for awhile.

well ...that just shows you how much attention i pay to that shit....

 

[Ravi]

POLITICAL FALLOUT?????????????

What political fallout could there be from killing OBL?????? Like anyone is going to miss him?

That's like saying Truman would have taken political fallout for killing Adolf Hitler.

Give us all a break!

Republicans whining that they weren't consulted...the usual.

Can you quote one Republican saying that?

Until then, you are so full of it!

I don't need to, you asked what possible political fall out there could be.

There is also another good example....those criticizing Obama for an assassination.

 

[Stephanie]

Yes, and not only does he deserve credit, he also took the responsibility for any political fallout by stating it was his decision.

Now that is presidential, I don't care how much other criticism he gets or deserves for other policies.

POLITICAL FALLOUT?????????????

What political fallout could there be from killing OBL?????? Like anyone is going to miss him?

That's like saying Truman would have taken political fallout for killing Adolf Hitler.

Give us all a break!

Republicans whining that they weren't consulted...the usual.

well now, fancy that. we USED to have a system like that. All that seemed to fly out the window when our little dictator Obama was elected.

 

[teapartysamurai]

LOL, they are thanking the Obama as if HE was the one who went out there, hunted him down, and shot the man.

how funny.

But as we've seen, the Obama will take ALL THE CREDIT

Quit it. Obama ORDERED it. He ordered our troops to enter a Country that basically forbad US military activity. he ordered them in and ordered them to capture or kill Bin Laden.

NOTHING would have happened if Obama had not had the courage to make that Presidential decision.

Quite right, Obama potentially risked his presidency and his personal legacy on this one operation.
He deserves a share of the credit.

He RISKED HIS PRESIDENCY??????????????????

There are people on the left now saying there is no way Obama can lose in 2012 and you people on the left are claiming he risked his presidency?????????

Yeah, because those people dancing in Times Square Sunday night were sooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry Bin Laden's dead!

Can you guys get anymore full of it??????

I bet you can try!

 

[Robert]

so?....he could have been like Clinton and said no....i changed my mind....and thats all im saying......he has to give the final ok......and thats coming from 3 Generals...the smoking Spock said he doesnt....

I thought you meant he had to get authorization from Pakistan go in.

no....the President.....**** Pakistan....they were harboring the guy all along....they can go to hell....

With Musharraf: Mission violated sovereignty... seems the WH lied about this as well not that I give a shit as I would be willing to bet Musharraf was paid to allow OBL to live there. Its just funny how the story keeps changing.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Its funny how the libs are still saying Osama's brand of Jihad didn't represent most of Islam.

If that is the case then why did we take so much care with his body and give him a proper burial?

If he was just a radical that "mainstream" Islam didn't relate with why would they get upset if he wasn't given a proper muslim burial?

I think we all know the answer. "Mainstream" Muslims view him as a hero.

from what Ive been reading, they really didn't.

yea i heard a few quotes from some Muslim leaders that did not sound like he was a hero to them....

 

[Ravi]

Yet another example:

With Musharraf: Mission violated sovereignty... seems the WH lied about this as well not that I give a shit as I would be willing to bet Musharraf was paid to allow OBL to live there. Its just funny how the story keeps changing.

Yes, it took balls for Obama to take the ultimate responsibility....

 

[Samson]

A picture speaks a thousand words.

Who is in charge in this pic?

Actually, its easier to pick out the guy who was most likely in charge of getting the coffee and donuts.

I saw this photo on MSN with the headline:

All Work and No Play:
A president's day is more than whatever appears on his public schedule

Obama's secret meetings: How the president kept the public from knowing about the plan to kill Osama Bin Laden. - By John Dickerson - Slate Magazine

Apparently it is the lead-in for Fawning Obomot Apologists

A president criticized for playing golf or spending time in Brazil on the eve of the Libyan invasion would have been relentlessly skewered for engaging in banter with the press on the eve of a dangerous military operation. But it wasn't just Saturday night that the president had to keep his serious brain cordoned off from his less serious brain. During the final phase of the multiyear operation, Obama chaired the National Security Council on five occasions to discuss progress. A look at those five days tells the story not just how quickly a president must switch between his public and private duties but also how silly some of the public calls for his attention must have seemed to him at the time.

See, Obama is practically the same as Lincoln!!

How "silly" are public calls for attention from a President? Apparently, pretty silly when one has difficulty chewing gum and walking at the same time. But for Presidents that don't require Constant Media Support, it is just part of the routine.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Thank you, President Obama, for ridding the world of bin laden.

Such unhappiness you've caused among the right wing lunatic fringe.

Are you not gonna thank George Bush as well? This op started under his watch. Even Obama recognizes that fact.

I have, a couple of times, but it keeps getting merged into the thread from hell.

I thanked Bush long before the rightwingloonatic fringe started mourning bin laden.



btw, it actually started under Clinton's, and I thanked him as well.

Started under Clinton????????????????

How????????? He was offered OBL three times and REFUSED!!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qgKAsfp_lc]YouTube - Clinton Admits He Refused To Take Bin Laden[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe5BFWgGgeY]YouTube - Clinton refused to kill bin Laden[/ame]

The left are now trying to revise (aka LIE THEIR ASSES OFF) history and claime this isn't true.

PROBLEM IS THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THEN AND REMEMBER! And the left can't destroy the record.

The fact is Bill Clinton wouldn't take Bin Laden. All Clinton did was make a speech declaring war on him.

It was no different than Neville Chamberlain declaring War on Germany (WWII). History calls it the "phony war" and for a reason. Chamberlain did next to nothing.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

It's been reported that bin Laden was killed by SEAL Team Six, officially known as Naval Special Warfare Development Group or DevGru.

Under Bush, JSOC was routinely smeared by the left and placed at the center of many Bush/Cheney conspiracy theories. Specifically, New Yorker reporter Seymour Hersh alleged it was Dick Cheney's personal assassination squad:

"After 9/11, I haven't written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven't been called on it yet."

Hersh then went on to describe a second area of extra-legal operations: the Joint Special Operations Command. "It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently," he explained. "They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. ... Congress has no oversight of it."

"It's an executive assassination ring essentially, and it's been going on and on and on," Hersh stated. "Under President Bush's authority, they've been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That's been going on, in the name of all of us."

Now that a Democratic President has employed JSOC to take out Osama bin Laden, will the fever swamps of the left continue to assert that it's just a Bush/Cheney plot to run around unjustifiably killing people?

You know the left should really learn to shut up during Republican admins, because sooner or later, their smears are going to come back and bite them.

Don't you get it. If you are the liberal media and conservatives are doing it they are crazy, evil, terror breeding, murderes.

If you are the liberal media and a liberal does it then it brings the nation together and is the greatest thing we ever did.

They are so blatant in their partisanship, hell they even admit it unapologetically lately.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Republicans whining that they weren't consulted...the usual.

Can you quote one Republican saying that?

Until then, you are so full of it!

I don't need to, you asked what possible political fall out there could be.

There is also another good example....those criticizing Obama for an assassination.

IN OTHER WORDS, the possiblity ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR PARANOID NON-MIND!

Thank you for admitting it. You get the "completely full of it" award!

 

[The Rabbi]

Quit it. Obama ORDERED it. He ordered our troops to enter a Country that basically forbad US military activity. he ordered them in and ordered them to capture or kill Bin Laden.

NOTHING would have happened if Obama had not had the courage to make that Presidential decision.

Yes, and not only does he deserve credit, he also took the responsibility for any political fallout by stating it was his decision.

Now that is presidential, I don't care how much other criticism he gets or deserves for other policies.

POLITICAL FALLOUT?????????????

What political fallout could there be from killing OBL?????? Like anyone is going to miss him?

That's like saying Truman would have taken political fallout for killing Adolf Hitler.

Give us all a break!

Obama invaded a sovereign country and committed an assassination on foreign territory. The international community, esp the Muslim world, will make repercussions. Let's see how well he sticks to his statement of responsibility or whether he shifts to "this was Pres Bush's policy".
But domestically there is no liability.

 

[waltky]

Osama Bin Laden's Last Words...

US official: New tape may be last from bin Laden
2 May`11 WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence officials believe Osama bin Laden made a propaganda recording shortly before his death and expect that tape to surface soon.

It is unclear whether the tape is audio or video, but a U.S. official says that intelligence indicates it is already working its way through al-Qaida's media pipeline. The official said the timing was coincidental and there is no indication he knew U.S. forces were bearing down on him.

A new recording from bin Laden would provide a final word from the beyond grave for a terrorist who taunted the U.S. with recorded propaganda for years. It could also provide fodder to those who insist he is still alive.

Source

 

[idb]

Quit it. Obama ORDERED it. He ordered our troops to enter a Country that basically forbad US military activity. he ordered them in and ordered them to capture or kill Bin Laden.

NOTHING would have happened if Obama had not had the courage to make that Presidential decision.

Quite right, Obama potentially risked his presidency and his personal legacy on this one operation.
He deserves a share of the credit.

He RISKED HIS PRESIDENCY??????????????????

There are people on the left now saying there is no way Obama can lose in 2012 and you people on the left are claiming he risked his presidency?????????

Yeah, because those people dancing in Times Square Sunday night were sooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry Bin Laden's dead!

Can you guys get anymore full of it??????

I bet you can try!

On the left...is that where I am?

As far as risk is concerned, what, do you imagine, would have happened if it had all turned to custard...if the reported Pakistan military academy down the road had come out firing, if the US blokes had got caught up in a fight with them and Osama's crew?
What if they'd all been killed, or captured, or killed a load of Pakistani soldiers, or civilians...?

The more I think about it, the potential for a cock-up of monumental proportions seems greater.
What sort of a shit-storm do you think would have descended on Obama?

 

[Old Rocks]

Thank you, President Obama, for ridding the world of bin laden.

Such unhappiness you've caused among the right wing lunatic fringe.

Are you not gonna thank George Bush as well? This op started under his watch. Even Obama recognizes that fact.

For your amusement and future reference, here's what Bush has said about bin Laden at various points in time, depending on how he was trying to spin things:

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI

"...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."
- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availablity with the Press Travel Pool,
The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
official White House site

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

Bush Quotes about Bin Laden - BuzzFlash Reader Commentary