Bin Laden is DEAD, thread from Hell

[slukasiewski]

Haven't seen a war protest or those Code Pinko freaks in downtown D.C. since Obama took office...

 

[Sallow]

I made a post in this thread and was told it was an invalid link.

Obama showed courage, leadership and acted in the best interest of this Country by ordering the Insertion with orders to capture or kill Bin Laden. He acted in the best interest of this Country and it was a Presidential action that deserves credit.

The military and the CIA deserve credit for finding him

Bush deserves credit for starting the hunt.

Actually, that would be Clinton.

Wrong as usual, Clinton had 2 opportunities to either kill or capture Bin Laden and he turned down both. But you go ahead and spout your ignorance.

Wrong.

 

[mudwhistle]

A picture speaks a thousand words.

Who is in charge in this pic?

Who has the responsibility in the picture?
If it had turned to shit, who would have taken the blame?

We're talking reality here now, not the public backlash that may result.

The reality is Obama gave the go ahead and to his credit, he let the guys with experience take over. He sat back and watched it happen.

Tell me I'm wrong.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Actually, that would be Clinton.

Wrong as usual, Clinton had 2 opportunities to either kill or capture Bin Laden and he turned down both. But you go ahead and spout your ignorance.

Wrong.

Sorry but it is Historical fact dumb ass.

 

[idb]

LOL, they are thanking the Obama as if HE was the one who went out there, hunted him down, and shot the man.

how funny.

But as we've seen, the Obama will take ALL THE CREDIT

Quit it. Obama ORDERED it. He ordered our troops to enter a Country that basically forbad US military activity. he ordered them in and ordered them to capture or kill Bin Laden.

NOTHING would have happened if Obama had not had the courage to make that Presidential decision.

Quite right, Obama potentially risked his presidency and his personal legacy on this one operation.
He deserves a share of the credit.

 

[Ravi]

LOL, they are thanking the Obama as if HE was the one who went out there, hunted him down, and shot the man.

how funny.

But as we've seen, the Obama will take ALL THE CREDIT

Quit it. Obama ORDERED it. He ordered our troops to enter a Country that basically forbad US military activity. he ordered them in and ordered them to capture or kill Bin Laden.

NOTHING would have happened if Obama had not had the courage to make that Presidential decision.

Yes, and not only does he deserve credit, he also took the responsibility for any political fallout by stating it was his decision.

Now that is presidential, I don't care how much other criticism he gets or deserves for other policies.

 

[Ravi]

A picture speaks a thousand words.

Who is in charge in this pic?

Who has the responsibility in the picture?
If it had turned to shit, who would have taken the blame?

We're talking reality here now, not the public backlash that may result.

The reality is Obama gave the go ahead and to his credit, he let the guys with experience take over. He sat back and watched it happen.

Tell me I'm wrong.

That's his job, moron.

Can you rightwingloonies get any stupider?

Oh, wait, there's a birfer thread around here somewhere.

 

[Stephanie]

Actually, that would be Clinton.

Wrong as usual, Clinton had 2 opportunities to either kill or capture Bin Laden and he turned down both. But you go ahead and spout your ignorance.

Clinton tried to get bin laden, and failed. His administration warned Bush about bin laden. Bush ignored the warnings, to our peril. Bush then tried to get bin laden, and failed.

You can pretend otherwise all you want, but anyone with a bit of intellectual honesty knows differently.

So because Clinton tried and failed, the attacks when Bush was in office for eight months was Bush's fault?

and you talk about intellectual HONESTY.

 

[Ravi]

Wrong as usual, Clinton had 2 opportunities to either kill or capture Bin Laden and he turned down both. But you go ahead and spout your ignorance.

Clinton tried to get bin laden, and failed. His administration warned Bush about bin laden. Bush ignored the warnings, to our peril. Bush then tried to get bin laden, and failed.

You can pretend otherwise all you want, but anyone with a bit of intellectual honesty knows differently.

So because Clinton tried and failed, the attacks when Bush was in office for eight months was Bush's fault?

and you talk about intellectual HONESTY.

I didn't say that...you did.

 

[bucs90]

Haven't seen a war protest or those Code Pinko freaks in downtown D.C. since Obama took office...

Yeah, I guess torture and war are cool now!! Yay!!!

 

[idb]

A picture speaks a thousand words.

Who is in charge in this pic?

Who has the responsibility in the picture?
If it had turned to shit, who would have taken the blame?

We're talking reality here now, not the public backlash that may result.

The reality is Obama gave the go ahead and to his credit, he let the guys with experience take over. He sat back and watched it happen.

Tell me I'm wrong.

No, you're not wrong.

 

[mudwhistle]

Who has the responsibility in the picture?
If it had turned to shit, who would have taken the blame?

We're talking reality here now, not the public backlash that may result.

The reality is Obama gave the go ahead and to his credit, he let the guys with experience take over. He sat back and watched it happen.

Tell me I'm wrong.

That's his job, moron.

Can you rightwingloonies get any stupider?

Oh, wait, there's a birfer thread around here somewhere.

Speaking of stupid....Obama wants us to think he was intimately involved in the operation when in fact he became a spectator once it started.

Now go back to talking about birfers.

 

[Robert]

Heightening the anticipation for dramatic effect?

Talk about a unifying moment for the POTUS and the country!!

Problem is some of us have long memories. We're not distracted by shiny objects.

This does not change anything. Its just an example of what Obama can do if he drops his normal ideological BS. His job was not to screw it up and I give him congrats on that, but if left to his own devices Obama would have screwed this up royally. Instead, he's left most of the Bush Doctrine in place and has not decimated the task force that brought this guy down.

I wonder if the far left will attack him for this or if they will jump on the bandwagon.

Now he needs to do the right thing and get us the hell out of Afghanistan because that, if properly covered by the media, will be his downfall.

Its just an example of what Obama can do if he drops his normal ideological BS.

especially when there might be a good Photo op and Poll bump

 

[editec]

It's amazing me just how quickly a liberal will completely flip on war, torture, gitmo, invasions, so long as the commander is a black liberal and not a white conservative.

Obama voted against the war. He rallied against "torture", against Gitmo. Against invasions of any country that didn't attack us. He made an entire campaign based on this. Liberals, of course, united in rallying agaisnt all of the above. However, now, they completely flop on it. This huge victory, which they see as a victory for Obama 2012 first, and for America second, was won with the combined effort of so many people and entities over the last decade.

Was killing OBL worth all the torture, gitmo, invasions, wars? Your Savior rallied and voted against all that, NOW, he smuggly claims credit for the big victory for the USA. Is that right?

Obama's speech should be followed with this speech intro: "While catching and killing Osama Bin Laden is in fact a good thing, I strongly oppose everything that led up to this moment, including the wars, the interrogations, Gitmo, and everything else I campaigned against as a Senator."

But he wont. As long as he stays black and liberal, left wingers will worship the very spit that comes out of his mouth.

Of course the flaw in your thinking is that you believe there is a "left":

But after decades of propaganda, of course, you're not alone in thinking like that.

 

[teapartysamurai]

LOL, they are thanking the Obama as if HE was the one who went out there, hunted him down, and shot the man.

how funny.

But as we've seen, the Obama will take ALL THE CREDIT

Quit it. Obama ORDERED it. He ordered our troops to enter a Country that basically forbad US military activity. he ordered them in and ordered them to capture or kill Bin Laden.

NOTHING would have happened if Obama had not had the courage to make that Presidential decision.

Yes, and not only does he deserve credit, he also took the responsibility for any political fallout by stating it was his decision.

Now that is presidential, I don't care how much other criticism he gets or deserves for other policies.

POLITICAL FALLOUT?????????????

What political fallout could there be from killing OBL?????? Like anyone is going to miss him?

That's like saying Truman would have taken political fallout for killing Adolf Hitler.

Give us all a break!

 

[idb]

Talk about a unifying moment for the POTUS and the country!!

Problem is some of us have long memories. We're not distracted by shiny objects.

This does not change anything. Its just an example of what Obama can do if he drops his normal ideological BS. His job was not to screw it up and I give him congrats on that, but if left to his own devices Obama would have screwed this up royally. Instead, he's left most of the Bush Doctrine in place and has not decimated the task force that brought this guy down.

I wonder if the far left will attack him for this or if they will jump on the bandwagon.

Now he needs to do the right thing and get us the hell out of Afghanistan because that, if properly covered by the media, will be his downfall.

Its just an example of what Obama can do if he drops his normal ideological BS.

especially when there might be a good Photo op and Poll bump

Ah...but there's where you're wrong, he would have been better waiting until a week before the presidential elections to send in the team.
Just like the timing of the birth cert release, he's been badly advised.

 

[Robert]

It's been reported that bin Laden was killed by SEAL Team Six, officially known as Naval Special Warfare Development Group or DevGru.

Under Bush, JSOC was routinely smeared by the left and placed at the center of many Bush/Cheney conspiracy theories. Specifically, New Yorker reporter Seymour Hersh alleged it was Dick Cheney's personal assassination squad:

"After 9/11, I haven't written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven't been called on it yet."

Hersh then went on to describe a second area of extra-legal operations: the Joint Special Operations Command. "It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently," he explained. "They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. ... Congress has no oversight of it."

"It's an executive assassination ring essentially, and it's been going on and on and on," Hersh stated. "Under President Bush's authority, they've been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That's been going on, in the name of all of us."

Now that a Democratic President has employed JSOC to take out Osama bin Laden, will the fever swamps of the left continue to assert that it's just a Bush/Cheney plot to run around unjustifiably killing people?

You know the left should really learn to shut up during Republican admins, because sooner or later, their smears are going to come back and bite them.

You don't know which team killed Osama so maybe you should learn to shut your mouth.

Did the White House change the story on that as well? <aybe you should think about using your own advice.

 

[Ravi]

Quit it. Obama ORDERED it. He ordered our troops to enter a Country that basically forbad US military activity. he ordered them in and ordered them to capture or kill Bin Laden.

NOTHING would have happened if Obama had not had the courage to make that Presidential decision.

Yes, and not only does he deserve credit, he also took the responsibility for any political fallout by stating it was his decision.

Now that is presidential, I don't care how much other criticism he gets or deserves for other policies.

POLITICAL FALLOUT?????????????

What political fallout could there be from killing OBL?????? Like anyone is going to miss him?

That's like saying Truman would have taken political fallout for killing Adolf Hitler.

Give us all a break!

Republicans whining that they weren't consulted...the usual.

 

[Ravi]

We're talking reality here now, not the public backlash that may result.

The reality is Obama gave the go ahead and to his credit, he let the guys with experience take over. He sat back and watched it happen.

Tell me I'm wrong.

That's his job, moron.

Can you rightwingloonies get any stupider?

Oh, wait, there's a birfer thread around here somewhere.

Speaking of stupid....Obama wants us to think he was intimately involved in the operation when in fact he became a spectator once it started.

Now go back to talking about birfers.

I don't need to speak of stupid...you never shut up.

 

[Robert]

Problem is some of us have long memories. We're not distracted by shiny objects.

This does not change anything. Its just an example of what Obama can do if he drops his normal ideological BS. His job was not to screw it up and I give him congrats on that, but if left to his own devices Obama would have screwed this up royally. Instead, he's left most of the Bush Doctrine in place and has not decimated the task force that brought this guy down.

I wonder if the far left will attack him for this or if they will jump on the bandwagon.

Now he needs to do the right thing and get us the hell out of Afghanistan because that, if properly covered by the media, will be his downfall.

Its just an example of what Obama can do if he drops his normal ideological BS.

especially when there might be a good Photo op and Poll bump

Ah...but there's where you're wrong, he would have been better waiting until a week before the presidential elections to send in the team.
Just like the timing of the birth cert release, he's been badly advised.

Agreed he should have waited however after the trashing Trump gave him and his shockingly low poll numbers this action was the most expedient