Bin Laden is DEAD, thread from Hell

[Spoonman]

Can I ask the obvious question? How could someone be tracked if they are in custody?

i'll tell you what. get back to me when you acftually have a clue what is going on

You said what I highlighted....How can one track a detainee? I'd really like to know.

ok, i will dumb this down into liberalese -

a detainee, when questioned, probably under waterboarding, gave the identifiation of a trusted bin laden courier.

They tracked the courier, not the detainee. the detainee was pretty easy to keep tabs on all locked up and all

 

[Spoonman]

Do you practice being this stupid, or were just born as dumb as you are?

I'm glad bin Laden's dead. Unlike your couch potato in front of a PC screen I'd have done it myself rather than sit around on my fat ass like you do claiming some political appointee that was illegally elected gets credit for carrying out his predecessor's policy that circumvented him by f-ing puberty.

Get back in your hole, dipshit. Or get a brain. I suspect the former is your sole choice. I'm just trying to be nice.

You guys are JUST dyin' over this, aren't you?

Of course they are...they are dreading the historical comparisons:

Their big hero Dubya went to war with the wrong country and killed a jumped up little dictator that couldn't harm the US.

Under Obama's leadership, bin laden has been killed.

That's got to hurt.

is libya the right war?

 

[SFC Ollie]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acn5X1uGYPM]YouTube - RAW Video-Inside Osama Bin Laden's Compound (Osama is Dead)[/ame]

 

[Uncensored2008]

They tracked the courier, not the detainee. the detainee was pretty easy to keep tabs on all locked up and all

You have to type real slow when posting to bodecea. She ain't the sharpest marble in the poke.....

 

[rightwinger]

i'll tell you what. get back to me when you acftually have a clue what is going on

You said what I highlighted....How can one track a detainee? I'd really like to know.

ok, i will dumb this down into liberalese -

a detainee, when questioned, probably under waterboarding, gave the identifiation of a trusted bin laden courier.

They tracked the courier, not the detainee. the detainee was pretty easy to keep tabs on all locked up and all

Only two detainees were water boarded. Do you have proof that one of them gave the info or is it wishful thinking?

 

[rightwinger]

You guys are JUST dyin' over this, aren't you?

Of course they are...they are dreading the historical comparisons:

Their big hero Dubya went to war with the wrong country and killed a jumped up little dictator that couldn't harm the US.

Under Obama's leadership, bin laden has been killed.

That's got to hurt.

is libya the right war?

Who is leading the effort in Libya?

How many Americans were killed last week?

 

[The Rabbi]

He's had his share of **** ups - sure.

Haven't we all.

I dunno - perhaps I (we) should stand beside this guy. He's all we got next two years. And they're gonna be rough - with the knocking off of OSB.

I watch his press conferences, etc.

Starting to feel he is being honest

(Christ - did I just say that???!?!???!?!!)

He signed off on a U.S. policy that was formulated by his predecessor, to whom he gave no credit. And suddenly this makes him a leader?
Where was he on Obamacare? Where was he extending the Bush tax cuts? Where was he on the Libya war?
He is the opposite of honest. His every word drips dishonesty because his primary concern is not just winning but getting his ideological side to prevail.
His leadership skills are dismal. He has surrounded himself with incompetent yes-men, the mark of a poor leader.
Anyone would do a better job. Hell, Sarah Palin would do a better job and I wouldn't vote for her if you hog-tied me.

 

[mudwhistle]

It was a gutsy move by the President. Much like Jimmy Carter he alone, would have shouldered the blame if the attack turned into a disaster or if bin Laden wasn't there. The safe move would have been to call a massive bombing of the compound. But then we would never have known whether he was actually killed

Similar to his handling of the hijacking of the Maersk Alabama, Obama showed patience and daring in handling a critical military operation.

This wasn't gutsy because his skinny ass wasn't at risk.

This was the kind of move that you do when you want positive I.D.on the target. It's a fairly simple operation due to the isolation 18ft walls afford you. The hard part was getting approval with Pakastan to do it. The compound appeared like a textbook raid site.

Fairly simple? Why did it take 40 minutes of fighting?
Pakistan never approved it. Given their unreliability, they were kept in the dark

If the raid turned into a masacre, Obama would have been held accountable. Since it was a major success, the rightwing gives grudgingly minimal credit to the Presidents role

What they showed this morning seemed pretty simple. Now that they've shown better pics of the compound I can see it's more complex then I thought earlier. Lots of dead-space. Every inch of it had to be cleared.

40 mins is really a short time. First you put eyes and snipers on the house, then you call in the choppers, they land, take him down in mins, then gather intel and get the **** out. 40mins was good time. When you're in the middle of one of these time flies. I would say the fighting was over with pretty quick, or we would have had some casualties. You've never seen a team take down a building. It happens quick but the intel collection takes time.

 

[TheBrain]

You said what I highlighted....How can one track a detainee? I'd really like to know.

ok, i will dumb this down into liberalese -

a detainee, when questioned, probably under waterboarding, gave the identifiation of a trusted bin laden courier.

They tracked the courier, not the detainee. the detainee was pretty easy to keep tabs on all locked up and all

Only two detainees were water boarded. Do you have proof that one of them gave the info or is it wishful thinking?

Torture works bro, don't let anyone tell you different. Now whether we should be using it is an ethical question, but the fact that it works is indisputable.

 

[Intense]

Support him in what regard....if you didn't support his economic policies before this event, would that now change??

I dunno Sherry - seems we need a "leader"

Albeit - his leadership qualities to this point - DISMAL.

But who else should we look to?

Leon Panetta, a Thank You Will do.

Editor’s Note: We want to say a special word of thanks and praise to the members of the U.S. Navy’s SEAL Team Six — widely considered to be the most elite among the elite troops of the U.S. Joint Special Operations Command — who successfully assaulted Osama bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan yesterday. Retired General Barry McCaffrey calls JSOC operators the “most dangerous people on the face of the earth.” We at PoliceOne call them heroes.



In a memo to staff throughout his agency, CIA director Leon Panetta today cautioned that “terrorists almost certainly will attempt to avenge” the killing of Osama bin Laden during a Special Operations raid yesterday in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Panetta said, in part, while Bin Laden is dead, “Al-Qaida is not.” The mere fact that the mastermind of the 9/11 terrorist attacks was “buried at sea” may be cause enough for Lone Wolf and/or Sleeper Cell attacks to be launched against American cities and towns (some Islamic scholars interpreted the sea burial as a “humiliating disregard for the standard Muslim practice of placing the body in a grave with the head pointed toward the holy city of Mecca”).



American cops vigilant after death of bin Laden

 

[Robert]

He's had his share of **** ups - sure.

Haven't we all.

I dunno - perhaps I (we) should stand beside this guy. He's all we got next two years. And they're gonna be rough - with the knocking off of OSB.

I watch his press conferences, etc.

Starting to feel he is being honest

(Christ - did I just say that???!?!???!?!!)

When I see him do something about the economy our Deficit and putting people back to work I'll change my mind until then OBL aside all I see with Obama is Leadership Failure.

 

[JamesInFlorida]

He's had his share of **** ups - sure.

Haven't we all.

I dunno - perhaps I (we) should stand beside this guy. He's all we got next two years. And they're gonna be rough - with the knocking off of OSB.

I watch his press conferences, etc.

Starting to feel he is being honest

(Christ - did I just say that???!?!???!?!!)

He signed off on a U.S. policy that was formulated by his predecessor, to whom he gave no credit. And suddenly this makes him a leader?
Where was he on Obamacare? Where was he extending the Bush tax cuts? Where was he on the Libya war?
He is the opposite of honest. His every word drips dishonesty because his primary concern is not just winning but getting his ideological side to prevail.
His leadership skills are dismal. He has surrounded himself with incompetent yes-men, the mark of a poor leader.
Anyone would do a better job. Hell, Sarah Palin would do a better job and I wouldn't vote for her if you hog-tied me.

If it doesn't bother Bush (he had nothing negative to say about Obama in regards to this issue)-it shouldn't bother you. Stop being such a partisan hack all the time.

(and no I'm still not voting for Obama in 2012).

 

[tigerbob]

Heightening the anticipation for dramatic effect?

Talk about a unifying moment for the POTUS and the country!!

I will "unify" as soon as Obama and the Pentagon offer proof of the death, and if their refusal to release the photos is any indication, that will not happen.

I would hope the a decision to not release pictures is calculated to save lives of soldiers in war zones, and other Americans overseas, by not fanning an already potentially inflammatory situation. Releasing the pictures to pacify a skeptical public when it might cost more American lives, if that's the case, would be inexcusable.

The other side of the coin of course is that if he's really not dead and Obama is saying he is, it's a pretty damn high risk vote-winning strategy.

 

[mudwhistle]

Of course they are...they are dreading the historical comparisons:

Their big hero Dubya went to war with the wrong country and killed a jumped up little dictator that couldn't harm the US.

Under Obama's leadership, bin laden has been killed.

That's got to hurt.

is libya the right war?

Who is leading the effort in Libya?

How many Americans were killed last week?

I remember all of the bellyaching over dead Iraqs asshole so STFU.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Only two detainees were water boarded. Do you have proof that one of them gave the info or is it wishful thinking?

WHAT????????

I thought we had waterboarded children and little old ladies who were kidnapped by BOOOSSHHH and Cheney - though innocent as lambs?

Only TWO people were waterboarded? You commies made that kind of a raucous over two? One was Rosie O'Donnell, who was the other?

 

[Spoonman]

You said what I highlighted....How can one track a detainee? I'd really like to know.

ok, i will dumb this down into liberalese -

a detainee, when questioned, probably under waterboarding, gave the identifiation of a trusted bin laden courier.

They tracked the courier, not the detainee. the detainee was pretty easy to keep tabs on all locked up and all

Only two detainees were water boarded. Do you have proof that one of them gave the info or is it wishful thinking?

lol. so all those years of lib whining and bitching about waterboarding was over two incidence? geez, they made is sound like is was SOP

 

[Trajan]

Just wanted to give a shout to the CIA as I have not heard them mentioned prominently and I think they deserve a large part of the credit as well...

They were much maligned, in some cases correctly but especially took a lot of heat ala interrogation techniques, too gung ho, black ops in foreign prisons, rendition etc etc etc…

I heard one G-2 describe Intel work like trying to make a cat walk backwards….walking back the cat is what he called it.

You're working with a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle, you don’t know or only suspect what the picture is supposed to look like, you have only half the pieces if that and as you get another you try and fit it in, you don’t know it if fits all because you may not have the other pieces around it, but, you just keep walking the cat.

From 2003 to 2005 to 2007 to last August and to the last 48 hours… Bin laden…..well done.

 

[Spoonman]

Of course they are...they are dreading the historical comparisons:

Their big hero Dubya went to war with the wrong country and killed a jumped up little dictator that couldn't harm the US.

Under Obama's leadership, bin laden has been killed.

That's got to hurt.

is libya the right war?

Who is leading the effort in Libya?

How many Americans were killed last week?

at a cost of $4 million a day and 85% of all the missions i''d say we are.

 

[geauxtohell]

Just wanted to give a shout to the CIA as I have not heard them mentioned prominently and I think they deserve a large part of the credit as well...

They were much maligned, in some cases correctly but especially took a lot of heat ala interrogation techniques, too gung ho, black ops in foreign prisons, rendition etc etc etc…

I heard one G-2 describe Intel work like trying to make a cat walk backwards….walking back the cat is what he called it.

You're working with a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle, you don’t know or only suspect what the picture is supposed to look like, you have only half the pieces if that and as you get another you try and fit it in, you don’t know it if fits all because you may not have the other pieces around it, but, you just keep walking the cat.

From 2003 to 2005 to 2007 to last August and to the last 48 hours… Bin laden…..well done.

Consider this operation and compare/contrast it with Desert 1 and think about how much has changed in 30 years.

That would probably make a good thread topic.

 

[Vast LWC]

is libya the right war?

Don't know about that. But I do know that no Americans have been killed there.