Bin Laden is DEAD, thread from Hell

What do you think about the government's released information?

  • I believe all of it, of course some stuff is withheld for security's sake

    Votes: 39 39.4%
  • I believe none of it, seems like b-s to me

    Votes: 13 13.1%
  • I'm not sure yet

    Votes: 17 17.2%
  • I believe most of it, some stuff fabricated for political reasons

    Votes: 30 30.3%

  • Total voters
    99
Here is a READABLEquestion for you Vast Left Wing Conspiracy's, "Mohammed", you Muslim Piece of Shit: When do you think Janet Incompetano of Home Security will be ready to eliminate her Nationally TV Declared Edict on the use of "Man Made Caused Disaster" practitioner instead of her outlawed term "terrorist"..... especially after the execution of the "Man Made Caused Disaster" practitioner Osama Bin Laden ??????

OK:

1. The picture of Mohammed is there to spit in the face of people who kill cartoonists that draw Mohammed. I guess you missed that.

2. "Man-made caused disaster"? I'm relatively sure that's not the official title anyone was planning on using.

and

2. Semantics is semantics, I have no opinion on what people call a terrorist attack. What's more important to me is that they are prevented, and the people who commit them are brought to justice.

Your meaningless verbiage is one thing.......REALITY is another.

The mixed message by the Idiotic Obami Salaami Administration is REALITY.

Yes......Obambi FINALLY made the decision to take out OBL when he had no choice.

But......

The semi-black Political Charlatan and MONUMENTAL FRAUD STILL denounces the "enhanced interrogation techniques" including "waterboarding" that led to the info by KSM in the death of the Monster OBL.......and the IDIOTIC Pathological Liar is STILL having his stooge Holder courtmartialling and incarcerating our interrogators that are suspected of "enhanced interrogation techniques" including "waterboarding".

And, as stated, his other stooge Janet Incompetano has STILL not revoked her euphemisms regarding our OBVIOUS ENEMY, the ******* Muslim Jihadists forbidding the use of the word "TERRORISM" applied to these arseholes on NATIONAL TV instructing the cumbersome term "Man Made Caused DISASTER" to be used instead.

HOW ******* RIDICULOUS CAN THIS GET ?!?!?

So get off your LIEberrhoid Obamarrhoidal horse and stop yapping outa both sides of your orifice "Mohammed" of the "VAST LEFT WING CONSPIRACY" (Vast LWC).

Haha!
You funny guy!!!!
 
That's the left leaning spin on it. And I noticed you decided to throw out the race card even when it wasn't needed.

Wanna know what really happened?

They discovered UBLs location in August. Why did it take 8 months to get him? Answer: Somebody dithered on the decision. Who? Well, who's the CIC?:eusa_whistle:

Obama finally tells them to go in and take UBL out and he's a genius. He takes credit for the mission and even it's planning. I'm surprised he didn't take credit for training the unit that took him down and maybe pulling the trigger.:eusa_liar:

Then he says we can't see the pics of a dead UBL so nobody really knows if we got him except those who say they've seen them and al Qaeda. Some fake pics have been floating around and Congress members are tricked into believing they saw the real thing. :confused:

We've heard 28 different versions of the actions on the objective and more info is leaked out every day. Now we've gotten the best cache of intelEVA!!!!!!:woohoo:

You seem to have forgotten what's led up to this week.

The BP oil spill was pooh-poohed because Obama didn't want to be bothered with it. He was too busy attacking Arizona for being racist in their new immigration law, which was just retaliation for requiring his Birth Certificate.

After 10 days of doing nothing the White House says it's BP's problem, and they'll monitor the situation. After more time has passed and the leak continues all hell is breaking loose in the press. Then Obama comes out and says he's been on it since day one.....and the leak continues for 90 days. Obama hears they may have sealed the leak, goes to the gulf for the first time and is disappointed that the leak isn't sealed. Eventually they seal it and Obama takes credit. "We did this...and we did that".

Obama cheers Egypt in their push for Democracy, yet nobody thinks the Muslim Brotherhood is a threat. Now we've discovered they have the inside track on forming the new government, and UBL's second in command Ayman al-Zawahiri who is Egyptian seems to know members of the new Egyptian government. Soon after Mubarack is taken down Libya, Syria, Bahrain, Iran, and several other countries explode. Now the price of gas has risen almost $2 at the pump, and Obama blames evil speculators. The Administration says they can't do anything but monitor the situation....do you see a pattern here?????

But Barack Hussein Obama....ummm...ummm....ummmm.....got Bin Laden. So everything else doesn't matter.

He's the bestest friggen President EVA!!!!

OK, ok, now I've seen some pretty goddamn stupid posts, but this has to be among the most moronic.

Let me give you an example:

Somebody dithered on the decision. Who? Well, who's the CIC?

Yes, Obama saved his supposed "ace-in-the-hole" until AFTER the mid-term elections, so that he could save it for this point, a year-and-a-half before the next election.

Wow. Have you ever thought of becoming a campaign manager? Because I really think you should take over the campaign of either Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman. They would SOOO benefit from your grasp of politics.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Obamaush will ride this out until the sheeple come off their drunk'en stuipor and will create something else to distract from the failed economy.
 
Do you practice being this stupid, or were just born as dumb as you are?

I'm glad bin Laden's dead. Unlike your couch potato in front of a PC screen I'd have done it myself rather than sit around on my fat ass like you do claiming some political appointee that was illegally elected gets credit for carrying out his predecessor's policy that circumvented him by f-ing puberty.

Get back in your hole, dipshit. Or get a brain. I suspect the former is your sole choice. I'm just trying to be nice.

:lol::lol::lol:

You guys are JUST dyin' over this, aren't you?
Of course they are...they are dreading the historical comparisons:

Their big hero Dubya went to war with the wrong country and killed a jumped up little dictator that couldn't harm the US.
Under Obama's leadership, bin laden has been killed.

That's got to hurt.

Saddam Hussein was a threat to the stability in the middle east and a disruption in the world's oil supply would most certainly harm the US.

Apparently you missed the fact that Bush CAPTURED Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi people tried and hanged him.
 
All they got from torture was lies....the real evidence came from standard techniques.

So sad for you rightwingloons.

bin laden killed and the evidence that torture doesn't work all in one week.

:(

Enhanced interrogation techniques (water boarding, sleep deprivation, etc) are not used to get evidence. The subject is asked questions that the answers are known to determine when the subject cooperates and tells the truth. Once the subject cooperates, evidence is obtained by using standard interrogation methods.

The Navy Seals and the CIA operatives that enabled the Seals deserve kudos. Instead, the CIA operatives are being prosecuted. That really sux!
 
:lol::lol::lol:

You guys are JUST dyin' over this, aren't you?
Of course they are...they are dreading the historical comparisons:

Their big hero Dubya went to war with the wrong country and killed a jumped up little dictator that couldn't harm the US.
Under Obama's leadership, bin laden has been killed.

That's got to hurt.

Saddam Hussein was a threat to the stability in the middle east and a disruption in the world's oil supply would most certainly harm the US.

Apparently you missed the fact that Bush CAPTURED Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi people tried and hanged him.

The guy was contained and hadn't been a threat to anyone in ten years. The decision to invade Iraq was one of the biggest strategic blunders in US history And cost 4000 US lives
 
After seeing all of the high-fives and chest pounding, it's time for you'all to come back to Earth and face reality.

I saw Obama here in Clarksville at Ft Campbell yesterday. The military isn't too thrilled with him because of all of the bad-mouthing and investigations he and the Dems have been doing to us for the last 10 years.

You wanna act like he personally killed the bastard, but we all know it was a team effort. All that Obama did was not screw it up.

It wasn't his main purpose in life like the left is claiming now after the fact. It pretty much fell into his lap.

OK, well here's your choices:

1. You give the president responsibility (and therefore credit) for the kill, and therefore he becomes the recipient of any blow-back that might entail.

or

2. You give the military responsibility for the kill, and then have the Navy Seals who did it face the consequences, which would include a murder trial due to Reagan's executive order forbidding US personnel from carrying out assassinations. Only the president has the ability to countermand such an order.

SO, which would you prefer?

And, as a former member of said military, with many friends still in, I can guarantee that your whole "The military isn't too thrilled with him" premise is a load of crap.

As a former member of Special Ops, I guarantee that Obama is roundly disliked. And as a current DOD employee I see evidence of it every day. As a former team member I deeply resent when anyone who doesn't know military tactics attempts to take credit for something that I and other team members did for a living. Obama never went through what every single one of us went through to be in Special Operations. That's why we can't stand a braggart who doesn't know shit about it.

Those of us who know good leadership have long recognized what Obama is and what he stands for. This is merely a publicity campaign. Only the foolish or the misinformed will fall for it.

I compared Obama's visit Friday with Bush's last visit in Dec. of 08'. I can tell the difference. I didn't appreciate Obama's phony high-fiving at the start of his speech. He needs to show some humility. He also needs to stop being a hypocrite.

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Obama spikes the football
 
Of course they are...they are dreading the historical comparisons:

Their big hero Dubya went to war with the wrong country and killed a jumped up little dictator that couldn't harm the US.
Under Obama's leadership, bin laden has been killed.

That's got to hurt.

Saddam Hussein was a threat to the stability in the middle east and a disruption in the world's oil supply would most certainly harm the US.

Apparently you missed the fact that Bush CAPTURED Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi people tried and hanged him.

The guy was contained and hadn't been a threat to anyone in ten years. The decision to invade Iraq was one of the biggest strategic blunders in US history And cost 4000 US lives

We lost close to a thousand in Afghanistan last year. In March alone we lost 160 soldiers from the 101st. We're still losing them. The issue is whether you felt it was worthwhile and what your ultimate goal was.
 
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All they got from torture was lies....the real evidence came from standard techniques.

So sad for you rightwingloons.

bin laden killed and the evidence that torture doesn't work all in one week.

:(

Enhanced interrogation techniques (water boarding, sleep deprivation, etc) are not used to get evidence. The subject is asked questions that the answers are known to determine when the subject cooperates and tells the truth. Once the subject cooperates, evidence is obtained by using standard interrogation methods.

The Navy Seals and the CIA operatives that enabled the Seals deserve kudos. Instead, the CIA operatives are being prosecuted. That really sux!

Hey Obamarrhoidal arsehole Ravi......who the **** are you to contradict the opinion of the efficacy of "enhanced interrogation techniques" including "waterboarding" when your insignificant fart is juxtaposed against the opinion of SIX top experts on this issue: Ex Defence Sec'y Rumsfeld, and the CIA Chiefs: George Tenet, Stephen Hadley, Michael Hayden, Counter-Intelligence chief Jose Rodriquez, and the Obamarrhoidal CIA Chief Leon Paneta ?????

And don't try to ignore or obscure the fact that but for Dubya's capture and use of the aforementioned techniques on KSM, and two others (not used in Gitmo or America) the monster OBL wouldn't be feeding the fishes but munching his falafel with his dick up your queer arse.
 
I see a classic case of Wagging the Dog.


Obama killed UBL.
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Well, Bush took these guys out:

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Obama has alot of catching up to do.
 
All they got from torture was lies....the real evidence came from standard techniques.

So sad for you rightwingloons.

bin laden killed and the evidence that torture doesn't work all in one week.

:(

Enhanced interrogation techniques (water boarding, sleep deprivation, etc) are not used to get evidence. The subject is asked questions that the answers are known to determine when the subject cooperates and tells the truth. Once the subject cooperates, evidence is obtained by using standard interrogation methods.

The Navy Seals and the CIA operatives that enabled the Seals deserve kudos. Instead, the CIA operatives are being prosecuted. That really sux!

If you don't think waterboarding is torture-go get waterboarded. I guarantee you wont last 20 seconds.
 
All they got from torture was lies....the real evidence came from standard techniques.

So sad for you rightwingloons.

bin laden killed and the evidence that torture doesn't work all in one week.

:(

That is an assumption you cannot make.

Nobody is saying exactly what was the one thing that led us to UBL, and claiming so would be a totally specious argument.

Those who support "enhanced interrogation" technics want to claim that we wouldn't have found him without them, while those who are against them want to prosecute the CIA and want to say it wasn't a factor. I know those methods played a part in the process. Nobody in the know is saying otherwise.

The truth is various methods were used. Whatever it took, Waterboarding, sleep-deprivation, noise inducement, positive reinforcement, Satellite photos, HUMINT, all of it went into finding him. You cannot sit on your couch and say one way or another and you shouldn't attempt to do so just because the truth offends your sensibilities.
 
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All they got from torture was lies....the real evidence came from standard techniques.

So sad for you rightwingloons.

bin laden killed and the evidence that torture doesn't work all in one week.

:(

Enhanced interrogation techniques (water boarding, sleep deprivation, etc) are not used to get evidence. The subject is asked questions that the answers are known to determine when the subject cooperates and tells the truth. Once the subject cooperates, evidence is obtained by using standard interrogation methods.

The Navy Seals and the CIA operatives that enabled the Seals deserve kudos. Instead, the CIA operatives are being prosecuted. That really sux!

But we KNOW the lefties will now put pressure on Obama and Holder to drop those charges and investigations ASAP. Seeing as how this was infact a "group effort". And the lefties (especially THIS administration) owes them a HUGE apology.
 
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All they got from torture was lies....the real evidence came from standard techniques.

So sad for you rightwingloons.

bin laden killed and the evidence that torture doesn't work all in one week.

:(

Enhanced interrogation techniques (water boarding, sleep deprivation, etc) are not used to get evidence. The subject is asked questions that the answers are known to determine when the subject cooperates and tells the truth. Once the subject cooperates, evidence is obtained by using standard interrogation methods.

The Navy Seals and the CIA operatives that enabled the Seals deserve kudos. Instead, the CIA operatives are being prosecuted. That really sux!

If you don't think waterboarding is torture-go get waterboarded. I guarantee you wont last 20 seconds.

That's why it works.

Course they could just drive bamboo shoots up your fingernails, or shock your balls with some juice.

I'm trying to figure out how you idiots expect us to do anything in the war on terror if you keep handcuffing our people.

Damned powder-puff limp-wrist-ed hypocrites.
 
After seeing all of the high-fives and chest pounding, it's time for you'all to come back to Earth and face reality.

I saw Obama here in Clarksville at Ft Campbell yesterday. The military isn't too thrilled with him because of all of the bad-mouthing and investigations he and the Dems have been doing to us for the last 10 years.

You wanna act like he personally killed the bastard, but we all know it was a team effort. All that Obama did was not screw it up.

It wasn't his main purpose in life like the left is claiming now after the fact. It pretty much fell into his lap.

OK, well here's your choices:

1. You give the president responsibility (and therefore credit) for the kill, and therefore he becomes the recipient of any blow-back that might entail.

or

2. You give the military responsibility for the kill, and then have the Navy Seals who did it face the consequences, which would include a murder trial due to Reagan's executive order forbidding US personnel from carrying out assassinations. Only the president has the ability to countermand such an order.

SO, which would you prefer?

And, as a former member of said military, with many friends still in, I can guarantee that your whole "The military isn't too thrilled with him" premise is a load of crap.

As a former member of Special Ops, I guarantee that Obama is roundly disliked. And as a current DOD employee I see evidence of it every day. As a former team member I deeply resent when anyone who doesn't know military tactics attempts to take credit for something that I and other team members did for a living. Obama never went through what every single one of us went through to be in Special Operations. That's why we can't stand a braggart who doesn't know shit about it.

Those of us who know good leadership have long recognized what Obama is and what he stands for. This is merely a publicity campaign. Only the foolish or the misinformed will fall for it.

I compared Obama's visit Friday with Bush's last visit in Dec. of 08'. I can tell the difference. I didn't appreciate Obama's phony high-fiving at the start of his speech. He needs to show some humility. He also needs to stop being a hypocrite.

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Obama spikes the football

Show some humility? It will never happen...the man is not even capable. His ego won't allow it.
 
All they got from torture was lies....the real evidence came from standard techniques.

So sad for you rightwingloons.

bin laden killed and the evidence that torture doesn't work all in one week.

:(

Enhanced interrogation techniques (water boarding, sleep deprivation, etc) are not used to get evidence. The subject is asked questions that the answers are known to determine when the subject cooperates and tells the truth. Once the subject cooperates, evidence is obtained by using standard interrogation methods.

The Navy Seals and the CIA operatives that enabled the Seals deserve kudos. Instead, the CIA operatives are being prosecuted. That really sux!

But we KNOW the lefties will now put pressure on Obama and Holder to drop those charges and investigations ASAP. Seeing as how this was infact a "group effort". And the lefties (especially THIS administration) owes them a HUGE appology.

Nope. They still want to go after them. Just make sure it's not on the front-page.
 
After seeing all of the high-fives and chest pounding, it's time for you'all to come back to Earth and face reality.

I saw Obama here in Clarksville at Ft Campbell yesterday. The military isn't too thrilled with him because of all of the bad-mouthing and investigations he and the Dems have been doing to us for the last 10 years.

You wanna act like he personally killed the bastard, but we all know it was a team effort. All that Obama did was not screw it up.

It wasn't his main purpose in life like the left is claiming now after the fact. It pretty much fell into his lap.

OK, well here's your choices:

1. You give the president responsibility (and therefore credit) for the kill, and therefore he becomes the recipient of any blow-back that might entail.

or

2. You give the military responsibility for the kill, and then have the Navy Seals who did it face the consequences, which would include a murder trial due to Reagan's executive order forbidding US personnel from carrying out assassinations. Only the president has the ability to countermand such an order.

SO, which would you prefer?

And, as a former member of said military, with many friends still in, I can guarantee that your whole "The military isn't too thrilled with him" premise is a load of crap.



That's the choices??? Either give Oblah blah all of the "credit" or the SEALS get thrown under the bus...typical. :lol::lol:
 
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Enhanced interrogation techniques (water boarding, sleep deprivation, etc) are not used to get evidence. The subject is asked questions that the answers are known to determine when the subject cooperates and tells the truth. Once the subject cooperates, evidence is obtained by using standard interrogation methods.

The Navy Seals and the CIA operatives that enabled the Seals deserve kudos. Instead, the CIA operatives are being prosecuted. That really sux!

If you don't think waterboarding is torture-go get waterboarded. I guarantee you wont last 20 seconds.

That's why it works.

Course they could just drive bamboo shoots up your fingernails, or shock your balls with some juice.

I'm trying to figure out how you idiots expect us to do anything in the war on terror if you keep handcuffing our people.

Damned powder-puff limp-wrist-ed hypocrites.

Torture in the US is illegal-so if you're agreeing that waterboarding is torture, then you're also agreeing it's illegal. Right, or wrong-it's illegal.

I like how you're assuming I'm for or against the use of waterboarding-in other posts I've clearly said I'm not really sure if I'm for or against it. I haven't made up my mind yet, I certainly see the points of both sides.
 
If you don't think waterboarding is torture-go get waterboarded. I guarantee you wont last 20 seconds.

That's why it works.

Course they could just drive bamboo shoots up your fingernails, or shock your balls with some juice.

I'm trying to figure out how you idiots expect us to do anything in the war on terror if you keep handcuffing our people.

Damned powder-puff limp-wrist-ed hypocrites.



Torture in the US is illegal-so if you're agreeing that waterboarding is torture, then you're also agreeing it's illegal. Right, or wrong-it's illegal.

I like how you're assuming I'm for or against the use of waterboarding-in other posts I've clearly said I'm not really sure if I'm for or against it. I haven't made up my mind yet, I certainly see the points of both sides.

Thanks to the ACLU and Democrats it has been deemed illegal.

After the fact they made sure it was illegal. So instead of telling everyone.....it still goes on, but torture is still being used, just not in the U.S..

It never was used in the United States by the Bush Administration btw. It was never used in GITMO ether.
 
That's why it works.

Course they could just drive bamboo shoots up your fingernails, or shock your balls with some juice.

I'm trying to figure out how you idiots expect us to do anything in the war on terror if you keep handcuffing our people.

Damned powder-puff limp-wrist-ed hypocrites.



Torture in the US is illegal-so if you're agreeing that waterboarding is torture, then you're also agreeing it's illegal. Right, or wrong-it's illegal.

I like how you're assuming I'm for or against the use of waterboarding-in other posts I've clearly said I'm not really sure if I'm for or against it. I haven't made up my mind yet, I certainly see the points of both sides.

Thanks to the ACLU and Democrats it has been deemed illegal.


After the fact they made sure it was illegal. So instead of telling everyone.....it still goes on, but torture is still being used, just not in the U.S..

It never was used in the United States by the Bush Administration btw. It was never used in GITMO ether.

Last time I checked the past Republican nominee for president was against using torture (specifically waterboarding).
 
As a former member of Special Ops, I guarantee that Obama is roundly disliked. And as a current DOD employee I see evidence of it every day. As a former team member I deeply resent when anyone who doesn't know military tactics attempts to take credit for something that I and other team members did for a living. Obama never went through what every single one of us went through to be in Special Operations. That's why we can't stand a braggart who doesn't know shit about it.

Those of us who know good leadership have long recognized what Obama is and what he stands for. This is merely a publicity campaign. Only the foolish or the misinformed will fall for it.

I compared Obama's visit Friday with Bush's last visit in Dec. of 08'. I can tell the difference. I didn't appreciate Obama's phony high-fiving at the start of his speech. He needs to show some humility. He also needs to stop being a hypocrite.

Obama spikes the football

One simple question: If this mission had gone bad, ala Black Hawk Down, who would you have blamed? Obama, or the Navy Seals.

Whether you like it or not, when an organization, in this case the military, does something monumental, the person in charge generally gets the credit.

There's a reason for that: It's because the person in charge also gets the blame when things go wrong.

So, since we can safely assume that you would in fact have blamed Obama if things went wrong... You must therefore give Obama credit when things go right. Otherwise you are a hypocrite, pure and simple.

And has Obama not congratulated and given credit to the special ops team members that completed the mission, as you claim?

That's funny because I seem to remember him saying something or other...

Obama Thanks SEALs, Troops Back From Afghanistan - ABC News

Obama thanks Navy SEALs who raided bin Laden

President Obama thanks Navy SEALs team that killed Osama Bin Laden



He also gave them the Presidential Unit Citation, the highest honor given to military units.

Yeah, Obama's not giving them any credit at all, is he?
 
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