Bill Taylor's opening statement- quid pro quo

[jc456]

Bill Taylor is a nevertrumper, not to be believed.

And you know that because
a) He is a Vietnam War Veteran?
b) A West Point graduate?
c) Was an officer with the 101 Airborne?
d) A Bronze Star medal holder?
e) 5 years as an advisor to the U.S in NATO
f) 10 years as an ambassador coordinating assistance to Eastern Europe
g) His work in Kabul coordinating assistance in Afghanistan
h) His work in Baghdad as Director of Iraq Reconstruction?
i) His 3 years as Ambassador to Ukraine under President Bush?

I can see why you believe that a man with such honorable service can't be believed.

After all- you believe the orange draft dodger and his lies.

All irrelevant! His record means nothing. Mueller had a military record and he ended up dirty, just like fake war hero John McCain.

As mentioned- you Trumpettes will piss on the any decorated combat Veteran you perceive as a threat to your Orange draft dodging Messiah.

I do when they go rogue. yes indeed, military get dishonorable discharges while in the service. how does that happen if what you think is so?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

I recommend everyone read Bill Taylor's opening statement today.
Top US diplomat to Ukraine testifies there was a quid pro quo

I suggest reading the entire thing because there is great perspective in his statement.

While it confirms the quid pro quo that had been suspected- what is perhaps even more disturbing is his description of a shadow diplomacy being led by Rudy Giuliani- the President's private attorney- in leading America's diplomatic conversation with Ukraine.

I know that the Trump supporters will reflexively attack Bill Taylor.....but for anyone who thinks that they are objective- read his statement.

Read it.

I read his statement earlier. It's completely hearsay! He has bias against Trump. The actual irregular policy channel was actually between Hillary, the DNC and the Ukrainian government. Rep. Ron Johnson was there and said Trump never brought up Burisma, Biden and there was no Quid Pro Quo.

So if he is bias against Trump -- why did Pompeo ask for him to come back to the State Dept??

Is Pompeo the deep state now or do you wanna wait until later to call him Deep State??

 

[Syriusly]

'You can’t have a quid pro quo without the other party being aware there’s a quid and reports indicated the Ukrainian government was unaware that aid was allegedly being withheld to pressure them to dig up dirt on Trump opponent Joe Biden.
.

Except of course- Taylor's own statement points out that is just a lie

During this same phone call I had with Mr. Morrison, he went on to describe a

conversation Ambassador Sondland had with Mr. Yermak at Warsaw. Ambassador

Sondland told Mr. Yermak that the security assistance money would not come until

President Zelenskyy committed to pursue the Burisma investigation. I was alarmed by

what Mr. Morrison told me about the Sondland-Yermak conversation. This was the first

time I had heard that the security assistance—not just the White House meeting—was

conditioned on the investigations.

Did Taylor hear it from the Ukraine PM, the leader on the phone President Trump was talking to?

No.

What did the Ukraine PM, the official '1st-hand-account' party involved in this, say?

"IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! NO PRESSURE WAS APPLIED!'

The lethal military weapons needed for Ukraine to defend itself was finally delivered...after Barry had stopped / withheld it long enough for Putin to annex Crimea.

and he didn't know trump and the WH were holding funding. oops!!!! D'OH!

See the question the gop were not allowed to ask the ambassador was how does that match what the PM of Ukraine says? how is it you have something he never said?

During this same phone call I had with Mr. Morrison, he went on to describe a

conversation Ambassador Sondland had with Mr. Yermak at Warsaw. Ambassador Sondland told Mr. Yermak that the security assistance money would not come until President Zelenskyy committed to pursue the Burisma investigation. I was alarmed by what Mr. Morrison told me about the Sondland-Yermak conversation. This was the first time I had heard that the security assistance—not just the White House meeting—was conditioned on the investigations.

 

[Syriusly]

Bill Taylor is a nevertrumper, not to be believed.

And you know that because
a) He is a Vietnam War Veteran?
b) A West Point graduate?
c) Was an officer with the 101 Airborne?
d) A Bronze Star medal holder?
e) 5 years as an advisor to the U.S in NATO
f) 10 years as an ambassador coordinating assistance to Eastern Europe
g) His work in Kabul coordinating assistance in Afghanistan
h) His work in Baghdad as Director of Iraq Reconstruction?
i) His 3 years as Ambassador to Ukraine under President Bush?

I can see why you believe that a man with such honorable service can't be believed.

After all- you believe the orange draft dodger and his lies.

All irrelevant! His record means nothing. Mueller had a military record and he ended up dirty, just like fake war hero John McCain.

As mentioned- you Trumpettes will piss on the any decorated combat Veteran you perceive as a threat to your Orange draft dodging Messiah.

I do when they go rogue. yes indeed, military get dishonorable discharges while in the service. how does that happen if what you think is so?

And by 'go rogue' you Trumpettes always mean "threaten your orange draft dodging Messiah"

 

[Syriusly]

Hells bells- you support the President of the United States pushing an investigation into the Biden's based upon nothing. Not even hearsay.

I am sorry to hear that you do not support existing treaties, such as the Law Enforcement Assistance and Cooperation Treaty which established a process through which nations can engage in mutual cooperation to investigate corruption, crime, and terrorism, a treaty which is exercised / initiated by the President of the United States requesting such assistance....which - by the very definition and details within the Treaty - what he President did.

It must frighten the hell out of the Democrats who were involved in Democrats going to Ukraine and collaborating with corrupt Ukrainian politicians to acquire 'dirt' on Trump - to use in conjunction with the Russian-authored Counter-Intelligence propaganda Hillary bought from a foreign spy and which they have used for the last several years.

So far evidence of illegal collusion between Democrats and corrupt members of Barry's Cabinet / Agency Directors has led the US AG and his lead investigator to Ukraine, the UK, Italy, and Australia, investigating members of the Democratic party and Obama administration potentially illegally colluding with foreign governments / individuals to affect the outcome of a US election.

Funny how the Democrats have accused President Trump of that for the last 4 years and still can't find 1 single witness with 1st-hand account knowledge or any evidence of such a crime.

Poor snowflakes.

the double secret meetings are to shut out the ability of trump to investigate the actual corruption of 2016. but it's happening anyway. I'm laughing.

What actual corruption in 2016?

You do realize Trump never actually asked the President of Ukrain to investigate any actual corruption.....

 

[jc456]

'You can’t have a quid pro quo without the other party being aware there’s a quid and reports indicated the Ukrainian government was unaware that aid was allegedly being withheld to pressure them to dig up dirt on Trump opponent Joe Biden.
.

Except of course- Taylor's own statement points out that is just a lie

During this same phone call I had with Mr. Morrison, he went on to describe a

conversation Ambassador Sondland had with Mr. Yermak at Warsaw. Ambassador

Sondland told Mr. Yermak that the security assistance money would not come until

President Zelenskyy committed to pursue the Burisma investigation. I was alarmed by

what Mr. Morrison told me about the Sondland-Yermak conversation. This was the first

time I had heard that the security assistance—not just the White House meeting—was

conditioned on the investigations.

Did Taylor hear it from the Ukraine PM, the leader on the phone President Trump was talking to?

No.

What did the Ukraine PM, the official '1st-hand-account' party involved in this, say?

"IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! NO PRESSURE WAS APPLIED!'

The lethal military weapons needed for Ukraine to defend itself was finally delivered...after Barry had stopped / withheld it long enough for Putin to annex Crimea.

and he didn't know trump and the WH were holding funding. oops!!!! D'OH!

See the question the gop were not allowed to ask the ambassador was how does that match what the PM of Ukraine says? how is it you have something he never said?

During this same phone call I had with Mr. Morrison, he went on to describe a

conversation Ambassador Sondland had with Mr. Yermak at Warsaw. Ambassador Sondland told Mr. Yermak that the security assistance money would not come until President Zelenskyy committed to pursue the Burisma investigation. I was alarmed by what Mr. Morrison told me about the Sondland-Yermak conversation. This was the first time I had heard that the security assistance—not just the White House meeting—was conditioned on the investigations.

what's this? nonsense posted. no link, you made it up. got i.t

 

[Jitss617]

Bill Taylor is a nevertrumper, not to be believed.

And you know that because
a) He is a Vietnam War Veteran?
b) A West Point graduate?
c) Was an officer with the 101 Airborne?
d) A Bronze Star medal holder?
e) 5 years as an advisor to the U.S in NATO
f) 10 years as an ambassador coordinating assistance to Eastern Europe
g) His work in Kabul coordinating assistance in Afghanistan
h) His work in Baghdad as Director of Iraq Reconstruction?
i) His 3 years as Ambassador to Ukraine under President Bush?

I can see why you believe that a man with such honorable service can't be believed.

After all- you believe the orange draft dodger and his lies.

All irrelevant! His record means nothing. Mueller had a military record and he ended up dirty, just like fake war hero John McCain.

As mentioned- you Trumpettes will piss on the any decorated combat Veteran you perceive as a threat to your Orange draft dodging Messiah.

What else did he “think” trump meant lol hahahahahahhahahhaha

 

[jc456]

Bill Taylor is a nevertrumper, not to be believed.

And you know that because
a) He is a Vietnam War Veteran?
b) A West Point graduate?
c) Was an officer with the 101 Airborne?
d) A Bronze Star medal holder?
e) 5 years as an advisor to the U.S in NATO
f) 10 years as an ambassador coordinating assistance to Eastern Europe
g) His work in Kabul coordinating assistance in Afghanistan
h) His work in Baghdad as Director of Iraq Reconstruction?
i) His 3 years as Ambassador to Ukraine under President Bush?

I can see why you believe that a man with such honorable service can't be believed.

After all- you believe the orange draft dodger and his lies.

All irrelevant! His record means nothing. Mueller had a military record and he ended up dirty, just like fake war hero John McCain.

As mentioned- you Trumpettes will piss on the any decorated combat Veteran you perceive as a threat to your Orange draft dodging Messiah.

I do when they go rogue. yes indeed, military get dishonorable discharges while in the service. how does that happen if what you think is so?

And by 'go rogue' you Trumpettes always mean "threaten your orange draft dodging Messiah"

no, go against the will of the people. The people voted in trump, not trump voted in trump and they are stepping on our votes. 2020 is a year away, why not let the people decide eh? seems fair doesn't it? why are you left fks always against fairness. I've never understood accept for you'd never win anything. that's why. facts aren't your friends and you can't have an opposition. we must all believe as you. i know.

 

[White_MAGA_Man]

Fake news from the fake news media and fake American Dems.

Ah the loyal Trumpettes- anything that anyone says that might be construed to make their orange Messiah look bad must be 'Fake News!'

And in this case you are saying that the actual words by the acting Ambassador to Ukraine is 'Fake'

Can't get more Trump/Orwellian than that.

Yep, everything you clowns have chased for the last three years has turned out to be bullshit. You fricken idiots have become so predictable, my guess is you'll find two different new things to piss and moan about tomorrow.

And by 'bullshit' you mean that you are happy with Trump obstructing justice and demanding that a foreign country dig up dirt on his political rival in order to receive military aid.

You have ZERO evidence Trump obstructed justice. The transcript Trump released exonerates him.

a) Its not really a transcript
b) It doesn't 'exonerate' Trump from anything
c) Trump only released it after the whistleblower filed his official complaint- if not for the whistleblower Trump would have kept the conversation quiet.
d) The obstruction of justice is what is happening now- Trump's effort to prevent the House from finding out the facts of what happened in Ukraine.

How is Trump right now obstructing the House from finding out the facts what happened in Ukraine? Remember the Ukrainian president said Trump never did what you're claiming. NO PRESSURE!

 

[White_MAGA_Man]

Hells bells- you support the President of the United States pushing an investigation into the Biden's based upon nothing. Not even hearsay.

I am sorry to hear that you do not support existing treaties, such as the Law Enforcement Assistance and Cooperation Treaty which established a process through which nations can engage in mutual cooperation to investigate corruption, crime, and terrorism, a treaty which is exercised / initiated by the President of the United States requesting such assistance....which - by the very definition and details within the Treaty - what he President did.

It must frighten the hell out of the Democrats who were involved in Democrats going to Ukraine and collaborating with corrupt Ukrainian politicians to acquire 'dirt' on Trump - to use in conjunction with the Russian-authored Counter-Intelligence propaganda Hillary bought from a foreign spy and which they have used for the last several years.

So far evidence of illegal collusion between Democrats and corrupt members of Barry's Cabinet / Agency Directors has led the US AG and his lead investigator to Ukraine, the UK, Italy, and Australia, investigating members of the Democratic party and Obama administration potentially illegally colluding with foreign governments / individuals to affect the outcome of a US election.

Funny how the Democrats have accused President Trump of that for the last 4 years and still can't find 1 single witness with 1st-hand account knowledge or any evidence of such a crime.

Poor snowflakes.

the double secret meetings are to shut out the ability of trump to investigate the actual corruption of 2016. but it's happening anyway. I'm laughing.

What actual corruption in 2016?

You do realize Trump never actually asked the President of Ukrain to investigate any actual corruption.....

You failed to answer my question several posts back. Here it is again: Are you an American?

 

[jc456]

Hells bells- you support the President of the United States pushing an investigation into the Biden's based upon nothing. Not even hearsay.

I am sorry to hear that you do not support existing treaties, such as the Law Enforcement Assistance and Cooperation Treaty which established a process through which nations can engage in mutual cooperation to investigate corruption, crime, and terrorism, a treaty which is exercised / initiated by the President of the United States requesting such assistance....which - by the very definition and details within the Treaty - what he President did.

It must frighten the hell out of the Democrats who were involved in Democrats going to Ukraine and collaborating with corrupt Ukrainian politicians to acquire 'dirt' on Trump - to use in conjunction with the Russian-authored Counter-Intelligence propaganda Hillary bought from a foreign spy and which they have used for the last several years.

So far evidence of illegal collusion between Democrats and corrupt members of Barry's Cabinet / Agency Directors has led the US AG and his lead investigator to Ukraine, the UK, Italy, and Australia, investigating members of the Democratic party and Obama administration potentially illegally colluding with foreign governments / individuals to affect the outcome of a US election.

Funny how the Democrats have accused President Trump of that for the last 4 years and still can't find 1 single witness with 1st-hand account knowledge or any evidence of such a crime.

Poor snowflakes.

the double secret meetings are to shut out the ability of trump to investigate the actual corruption of 2016. but it's happening anyway. I'm laughing.

What actual corruption in 2016?

You do realize Trump never actually asked the President of Ukrain to investigate any actual corruption.....

yep, too bad that fact evades you. you don't like facts.

 

[Syriusly]

And you know that because
a) He is a Vietnam War Veteran?
b) A West Point graduate?
c) Was an officer with the 101 Airborne?
d) A Bronze Star medal holder?
e) 5 years as an advisor to the U.S in NATO
f) 10 years as an ambassador coordinating assistance to Eastern Europe
g) His work in Kabul coordinating assistance in Afghanistan
h) His work in Baghdad as Director of Iraq Reconstruction?
i) His 3 years as Ambassador to Ukraine under President Bush?

I can see why you believe that a man with such honorable service can't be believed.

After all- you believe the orange draft dodger and his lies.

All irrelevant! His record means nothing. Mueller had a military record and he ended up dirty, just like fake war hero John McCain.

As mentioned- you Trumpettes will piss on the any decorated combat Veteran you perceive as a threat to your Orange draft dodging Messiah.

I do when they go rogue. yes indeed, military get dishonorable discharges while in the service. how does that happen if what you think is so?

And by 'go rogue' you Trumpettes always mean "threaten your orange draft dodging Messiah"

no, go against the will of the people. The people voted in trump, not trump voted in trump and they are stepping on our votes. 2020 is a year away, why not let the people decide eh? seems fair doesn't it? why are you left fks always against fairness. I've never understood accept for you'd never win anything. that's why. facts aren't your friends and you can't have an opposition. we must all believe as you. i know.

No- the people did not vote Trump in- the Electoral College voted him in.

Why are you on the Right always so happy to defend the crimes by Trump.

LOL- the irony of you using the word 'facts' is just hilarious.

 

[Syriusly]

Hells bells- you support the President of the United States pushing an investigation into the Biden's based upon nothing. Not even hearsay.

I am sorry to hear that you do not support existing treaties, such as the Law Enforcement Assistance and Cooperation Treaty which established a process through which nations can engage in mutual cooperation to investigate corruption, crime, and terrorism, a treaty which is exercised / initiated by the President of the United States requesting such assistance....which - by the very definition and details within the Treaty - what he President did.

It must frighten the hell out of the Democrats who were involved in Democrats going to Ukraine and collaborating with corrupt Ukrainian politicians to acquire 'dirt' on Trump - to use in conjunction with the Russian-authored Counter-Intelligence propaganda Hillary bought from a foreign spy and which they have used for the last several years.

So far evidence of illegal collusion between Democrats and corrupt members of Barry's Cabinet / Agency Directors has led the US AG and his lead investigator to Ukraine, the UK, Italy, and Australia, investigating members of the Democratic party and Obama administration potentially illegally colluding with foreign governments / individuals to affect the outcome of a US election.

Funny how the Democrats have accused President Trump of that for the last 4 years and still can't find 1 single witness with 1st-hand account knowledge or any evidence of such a crime.

Poor snowflakes.

the double secret meetings are to shut out the ability of trump to investigate the actual corruption of 2016. but it's happening anyway. I'm laughing.

What actual corruption in 2016?

You do realize Trump never actually asked the President of Ukrain to investigate any actual corruption.....

yep, too bad that fact evades you. you don't like facts.

Poor little Trumpean snowflake.

You wouldn't know what a fact is if it slapped you in the face and felt you up.

 

[White_MAGA_Man]

All irrelevant! His record means nothing. Mueller had a military record and he ended up dirty, just like fake war hero John McCain.

As mentioned- you Trumpettes will piss on the any decorated combat Veteran you perceive as a threat to your Orange draft dodging Messiah.

I do when they go rogue. yes indeed, military get dishonorable discharges while in the service. how does that happen if what you think is so?

And by 'go rogue' you Trumpettes always mean "threaten your orange draft dodging Messiah"

no, go against the will of the people. The people voted in trump, not trump voted in trump and they are stepping on our votes. 2020 is a year away, why not let the people decide eh? seems fair doesn't it? why are you left fks always against fairness. I've never understood accept for you'd never win anything. that's why. facts aren't your friends and you can't have an opposition. we must all believe as you. i know.

No- the people did not vote Trump in- the Electoral College voted him in.

Why are you on the Right always so happy to defend the crimes by Trump.

LOL- the irony of you using the word 'facts' is just hilarious.

Why are you afraid to answer my question if you're an American citizen? One more time, are you an American citizen? Come on, coward! Answer!

 

[Seawytch]

I recommend everyone read Bill Taylor's opening statement today.
Top US diplomat to Ukraine testifies there was a quid pro quo

I suggest reading the entire thing because there is great perspective in his statement.

While it confirms the quid pro quo that had been suspected- what is perhaps even more disturbing is his description of a shadow diplomacy being led by Rudy Giuliani- the President's private attorney- in leading America's diplomatic conversation with Ukraine.

I know that the Trump supporters will reflexively attack Bill Taylor.....but for anyone who thinks that they are objective- read his statement.

Read it.

When you get just one side doing all the talking because your locking out the other side,
you tend to get this kind of BS. Carry on sheep

How many alleged criminals or their lawyers get to take part in a police investigation?

This is a police investigation? Really?

It is an analogy. I'm trying to help you understand the process. The accused will get his trial in the Senate. The House is like a Grand Jury. Accused criminals and their lawyers don't get to participate in that either. Wait for the Senate trial.

Rules have been made up specifically for this one occasion. Never before has it been handled as it is now.
You might think that's right and I know you do because you have a case of TDS. But, to real America the dems
are fooling no one. It's known as desperation, and in football it's known as a Hail Mary.

No rules have been "made up". What accused criminal has ever taken part in their own investigation? What is happening in the House is the investigation part.

 

[Syriusly]

I recommend everyone read Bill Taylor's opening statement today.
Top US diplomat to Ukraine testifies there was a quid pro quo

I suggest reading the entire thing because there is great perspective in his statement.

While it confirms the quid pro quo that had been suspected- what is perhaps even more disturbing is his description of a shadow diplomacy being led by Rudy Giuliani- the President's private attorney- in leading America's diplomatic conversation with Ukraine.

I know that the Trump supporters will reflexively attack Bill Taylor.....but for anyone who thinks that they are objective- read his statement.

Read it.

I read his statement earlier. It's completely hearsay! He has bias against Trump. The actual irregular policy channel was actually between Hillary, the DNC and the Ukrainian government. Rep. Ron Johnson was there and said Trump never brought up Burisma, Biden and there was no Quid Pro Quo.

So if he is bias against Trump -- why did Pompeo ask for him to come back to the State Dept??

Is Pompeo the deep state now or do you wanna wait until later to call him Deep State??

Anybody who threatens their Orange Messiah is part of the deep state to the Trumpettes.

 

[White_MAGA_Man]

I recommend everyone read Bill Taylor's opening statement today.
Top US diplomat to Ukraine testifies there was a quid pro quo

I suggest reading the entire thing because there is great perspective in his statement.

While it confirms the quid pro quo that had been suspected- what is perhaps even more disturbing is his description of a shadow diplomacy being led by Rudy Giuliani- the President's private attorney- in leading America's diplomatic conversation with Ukraine.

I know that the Trump supporters will reflexively attack Bill Taylor.....but for anyone who thinks that they are objective- read his statement.

Read it.

I read his statement earlier. It's completely hearsay! He has bias against Trump. The actual irregular policy channel was actually between Hillary, the DNC and the Ukrainian government. Rep. Ron Johnson was there and said Trump never brought up Burisma, Biden and there was no Quid Pro Quo.

So if he is bias against Trump -- why did Pompeo ask for him to come back to the State Dept??

Is Pompeo the deep state now or do you wanna wait until later to call him Deep State??

Anybody who threatens their Orange Messiah is part of the deep state to the Trumpettes.

Are you an American citizen?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Bill Taylor is a nevertrumper, not to be believed.

And you know that because
a) He is a Vietnam War Veteran?
b) A West Point graduate?
c) Was an officer with the 101 Airborne?
d) A Bronze Star medal holder?
e) 5 years as an advisor to the U.S in NATO
f) 10 years as an ambassador coordinating assistance to Eastern Europe
g) His work in Kabul coordinating assistance in Afghanistan
h) His work in Baghdad as Director of Iraq Reconstruction?
i) His 3 years as Ambassador to Ukraine under President Bush?

I can see why you believe that a man with such honorable service can't be believed.

After all- you believe the orange draft dodger and his lies.

All irrelevant! His record means nothing. Mueller had a military record and he ended up dirty, just like fake war hero John McCain.

As mentioned- you Trumpettes will piss on the any decorated combat Veteran you perceive as a threat to your Orange draft dodging Messiah.

Honor their service, but remember military service does not by default impart wisdom or common sense.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Bill Taylor is a nevertrumper, not to be believed.

And you know that because
a) He is a Vietnam War Veteran?
b) A West Point graduate?
c) Was an officer with the 101 Airborne?
d) A Bronze Star medal holder?
e) 5 years as an advisor to the U.S in NATO
f) 10 years as an ambassador coordinating assistance to Eastern Europe
g) His work in Kabul coordinating assistance in Afghanistan
h) His work in Baghdad as Director of Iraq Reconstruction?
i) His 3 years as Ambassador to Ukraine under President Bush?

I can see why you believe that a man with such honorable service can't be believed.

After all- you believe the orange draft dodger and his lies.

All irrelevant! His record means nothing. Mueller had a military record and he ended up dirty, just like fake war hero John McCain.

As mentioned- you Trumpettes will piss on the any decorated combat Veteran you perceive as a threat to your Orange draft dodging Messiah.

I do when they go rogue. yes indeed, military get dishonorable discharges while in the service. how does that happen if what you think is so?

And by 'go rogue' you Trumpettes always mean "threaten your orange draft dodging Messiah"

Those so designated "neverTrumpers" are followers of the old globalist Establishment political clique who got us into our current national predicaments in the first place. They are essentially understudy Democrats.

 

[White_MAGA_Man]

The poster Syriusly won't answer my numerous questions if he's an American citizen. I urge everyone to ask him.